Y dna of Serbs from Bačka

[Pribislav]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bačka

Sample 56

I2a-Din - 37.5% (PH908 25%)

R1b - 16.1%

R1a - 12.5%

I1 - 8.9%

N-P189.2 - 8.9%

E-V13 - 5.4%

J2a - 3.6%

J1 - 3.6%

J2b-M205 - 1.8%

I2-M223 - 1.8%


I - 48.2%
R - 28.6%
J - 9%
N - 8.9%
E - 5.4%


- Taken from "Serbian DNA project"

[Leto]

I wonder why N is relatively common. I thought in Europe it was almost absent except for Northeastern Europe. It exists in Turkey though.

[Pribislav]

I wonder why N is relatively common. I thought in Europe it was almost absent except for Northeastern Europe. It exists in Turkey though.

Among Serbs and other Yugos exist only N-P189.2 yfull.com/tree/N-P189.2/

[Pribislav]

Here is interesting high R1b for Serbian standards. "Western" branches are stronger than "eastarn."

[Ayetooey]

Here is interesting high R1b for Serbian standards. "Western" branches are stronger than "eastarn."

What is it mainly, u106?

[Ford]

I wonder why N is relatively common. I thought in Europe it was almost absent except for Northeastern Europe. It exists in Turkey though.

It's a clade only found in western balkans/former yugoslavia at a substantial level iirc. I think its highest frequency is even in Herzegovina and Dalmatia.

[Pribislav]

What is it mainly, u106?

On public tabele there is 8 R1b: 2 R1b>R-U106, 1 R1b>R-PF7562, 1 R1b>R-Z2705, 1 R1b>R-L51, 1 R1b>R-Z2103, 1 R1b>R-Z9.

[Ayetooey]

On public tabele there is 8 R1b: 2 R1b>R-U106, 1 R1b>R-PF7562, 1 R1b>R-Z2705, 1 R1b>R-L51, 1 R1b>R-Z2103, R1b>R-Z9.

It's small sample size so will probably go down with higher numbers; some u106 could come from Hungarians or Germans in Bačka who mixed with Serbs over the years since that subclade is more or less non existent in Serbs usually.

[Pribislav]

It's small sample size so will probably go down with higher numbers; some u106 could come from Hungarians or Germans in Bačka who mixed with Serbs over the years since that subclade is more or less non existent in Serbs usually.

Yea, sample is too small. Vojvodinian Serbs are not so interested for genetic, unlike Dinaric ones.

Germans lived 250 years in Bačka. Hungarians were 22% in Serbian part of Bačka in 2002.

[Dick]

Yea, sample is too small. Vojvodinian Serbs are not so interested for genetic, unlike Dinaric ones.

Germans lived 250 years in Bačka. Hungarians were 22% in Serbian part of Bačka in 2002.

This guy from Belgrade is R-U106. his grandfather has German acenstry from Zabalj, South Backa District. surname is german too.


https://i.imgur.com/U8BWBiO.png

[Pribislav]

This guy from Belgrade is R-U106. his grandfather has German acenstry from Zabalj, South Backa District. surname is german too.


https://i.imgur.com/U8BWBiO.png

Do you have his K13 Eurogenes?

[Dick]

Do you have his K13 Eurogenes?

No. actually his subclade is now R-BY250


https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-BY250/

[Vožd]

Among Serbs and other Yugos exist only N-P189.2 yfull.com/tree/N-P189.2/

Probably Montenegrin origin from Pljevlja or generally northern Montenegro?
But how it arrived in Montenegro is really mystery

[Pribislav]

Probably Montenegrin origin from Pljevlja or generally northern Montenegro?
But how it arrived in Montenegro is really mystery

People included in this statistic are those whose ancestors lived in Bačka at least since 19th century or before. Tested colonists after WW2 are not counted, they are counted in statistic for Serbs from regions from were their ancestors arrived.
Ancestors of these N-P189.2 Bačka Serbs probably came with Čarnojević in 1690 or Arsenije Jovanović Šakabenta in 1737.

N-P189.2 is from Banjani and Piva. Further origin is still unknown.

[Dick]

Probably Montenegrin origin from Pljevlja or generally northern Montenegro?
But how it arrived in Montenegro is really mystery

Probably stems from one male as opposed to a tribe or group and grew from there.

[Vožd]

Probably stems from one male as opposed to a tribe or group and grew from there.

A horny guy with many descedents, could be :D

[Dick]

A horny guy with many descedents, could be :D

Depends who he was. King Samo supposedly had 12 wives and 22 sons