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andre
08-25-2019, 08:17 AM
if you had to split your autosomal DNA as you would divide it into a percentage of the following options:
1) balto-slavic
2) Celto-Germanic
3) proto-balkanic
4) proto-hungarian
5) others (gypsy, jew, italian etc)

Cumansky
08-25-2019, 04:47 PM
Lol can a Hungarian take this question, I have a feeling from individual to individual there is some major differences tho based on my studies

Jana
08-25-2019, 05:33 PM
Stears result, make your own conclusion :)
http://imgur.com/a/SCO4JHH

Cumansky
08-25-2019, 05:36 PM
Stears is Balkan, Slavic, German, Jewish, Gypsy, Turkic Nomad conclusion made

Jana
08-25-2019, 05:40 PM
Stears is Balkan, Slavic, German, Jewish, Gypsy, Turkic Nomad conclusion made

Maybe all of that but not Jewish. He never gets Jewish. Plus he has some minor Uralic admix.

Cumansky
08-25-2019, 05:43 PM
Maybe all of that but not Jewish. He never gets Jewish.

Okkkkkkk, how did that Germanic Balkan looking Saami get Middle East and West Africa?

No noises, listen to the music for noises

Jana
08-25-2019, 05:44 PM
Okkkkkkk, how did that Germanic Balkan looking Saami get Middle East and West Africa?

No noises, listen to the music for noises

Gypsyes have MENA admixture.

Cumansky
08-25-2019, 05:48 PM
Gypsyes have MENA admixture.

How much you think Gypsy is average Hungarian? They are not West African tho

Jana
08-25-2019, 05:50 PM
How much you think Gypsy is average Hungarian? They are not West African tho

I think on average they don't have Gypsy.

Cumansky
08-25-2019, 05:56 PM
I think on average they don't have Gypsy.

Obviously they do, if noble people Hungarians are Jewish and Gypsy. Just deal with it lol

Jana
08-25-2019, 05:57 PM
Obviously they do, if noble people Hungarians are Jewish and Gypsy. Just deal with it lol

Lol I have no problem with it. You should speak with Stears, it is him who has problem with it.

Cumansky
08-25-2019, 05:59 PM
Lol I have no problem with it. You should speak with Stears, it is him who has problem with it.

You are just dodging the real questions

Jana
08-25-2019, 06:01 PM
You are just dodging the real questions

Few Hungarian users here have more west than east euro he just turned out most exotic (balkan, eastern stuff) ironically.

Cumansky
08-25-2019, 06:05 PM
Few Hungarian users here have more west than east euro he just turned out most exotic (balkan, eastern stuff) ironically.

Just answer the OP, wtf kind of question dodging is this

Jana
08-25-2019, 06:11 PM
Ok for Stears from most to least

1. Slavic
2. Dacian
3. German (it is bit higher than 4% British on FTDNA, east euro reference includes Czechs who have quite NW Euro in them)
5. Uralic
6. Indian/Siberian/MENA

Cumansky
08-25-2019, 06:14 PM
Ok for Stears from most to least

1. Slavic
2. Dacian
3. German (it is bit higher than 4% British on FTDNA, east euro reference includes Czechs who have quite NW Euro in them)
5. Uralic
6. Indian/Siberian/MENA

You forgot Jewish, Gypsy and African that appear in his result. Also give a percentage breakdown as OP has stated

Jana
08-25-2019, 06:20 PM
You forgot Jewish, Gypsy and African that appear in his result. Also give a percentage breakdown as OP has stated

It is included in 6. He has no Jewish, red sea score is 0 and not a single Jewish match. Gypsy maybe, but he don't get Gypsy matches (not many are tested though). In this it look like he has it, but I can't be certain.

Cumansky
08-25-2019, 06:27 PM
It is included in 6. He has no Jewish, red sea score is 0 and not a single Jewish match. Gypsy maybe, but he don't get Gypsy matches (not many are tested though). In this it look like he has it, but I can't be certain.

I have enough your goofy political correct answers, that guy has above average JTest too lol

Cumansky
08-25-2019, 06:27 PM
It is included in 6. He has no Jewish, red sea score is 0 and not a single Jewish match. Gypsy maybe, but he don't get Gypsy matches (not many are tested though). In this it look like he has it, but I can't be certain.

Where is % breakdown?

Jana
08-25-2019, 06:45 PM
Where is % breakdown?

Roughly

50% Slavic
25% Dacian
15% German
5% Ugric
5% Gypsy

Cumansky
08-25-2019, 06:51 PM
Roughly

50% Slavic
25% Dacian
15% German
5% Ugric
5% Gypsy

Nah you wish hahah, I can do it but I don't want to be disrespect lol

Cumansky
08-25-2019, 06:52 PM
Feiichy just post K47, last thing I ask

Benyzero
08-25-2019, 06:56 PM
Feiichy just post K47, last thing I ask

what is your point to prove here exactly?

Jana
08-25-2019, 07:01 PM
what is your point to prove here exactly?

I won't reply him further. This estimate is most I could do based on his data I have from all sides. Ofc I tried to round the numbers. Ignore the troll.

I don't wish anything or care particulary for Stears genetics apart from acedemic interest. He is what he is.

Cumansky
08-25-2019, 07:02 PM
what is your point to prove here exactly?

That many modern Hungarians are primarily Germanic, Jewish and Gypsy more than anything else, there is many studies that support my claims

Cumansky
08-25-2019, 07:06 PM
I won't reply him further. This estimate is most I could do based on his data I have from all sides. Ofc I tried to round the numbers. Ignore the troll.

I don't wish anything or care particulary for Stears genetics apart from acedemic interest. He is what he is.

Anyone that disagree you is troll, I'm not the one hiding K47 or any calculators I post them all

Benyzero
08-25-2019, 07:10 PM
That many modern Hungarians are primarily Germanic, Jewish and Gypsy more than anything else, there is many studies that support my claims

Im not in possession of those documents or know that studies, maybe in some family lines those ancestry types you mentione are more dominant than in others. But I would not believe if someone has not known jewish or gipsy, german admixture, that person will turn out more significantly any of those ethincs, you are exaggerating.

Benyzero
08-25-2019, 07:12 PM
Hungarians are predominantely west slavic, and minor germanic ,balkanic in big generalization, these numbers ofcourse differs from each person but covers reality. Beside that hungarians have culturally indigenous european identity.

Cumansky
08-25-2019, 07:14 PM
Im not in possession of those documents or know that studies, maybe in some family lines those ancestry types you mentione are more dominant than in others. But I would not believe if someone has not known jewish or gipsy, german admixture, that person will turn out more significantly any of those ethincs, you are exaggerating.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.jpost.com/Diaspora/DNA-study-reveals-130000-Hungarians-are-at-least-50-percent-Jewish-598498/amp

Now you are in possession

Benyzero
08-25-2019, 07:21 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.jpost.com/Diaspora/DNA-study-reveals-130000-Hungarians-are-at-least-50-percent-Jewish-598498/amp

Now you are in possession

I saw this just few days ago. These test takers are probably of dominantly middle class jewish families from budapest ( I can't say for sure). 130000 are not singificant anyway.

SharpFork
08-25-2019, 07:25 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.jpost.com/Diaspora/DNA-study-reveals-130000-Hungarians-are-at-least-50-percent-Jewish-598498/amp

Now you are in possession
So 1,3% of Hungarians have supposedly Jewish ancestry(mind that this is still based on a self-selected sample group), how does that qualify for "many Hungarians have Jewish ancestry"?

Benyzero
08-25-2019, 07:28 PM
So 1,3% of Hungarians have supposedly Jewish ancestry(mind that this is still based on a self-selected sample group), how does that qualify for "many Hungarians have Jewish ancestry"?

he just couldn't find any better source right now...

Leto
08-25-2019, 07:29 PM
A lot of "Hungarian Americans" are in fact Jews (like the infamous George Soros who is often referred to as "Hungarian-born"), so if they base it on overseas test takers, it means little to nothing.

Ljubic
08-25-2019, 07:31 PM
They are using MyHeritage as a reference. According to them, 12% of Ecuador, 11% of Mexican 10% of Romanian, 9% of Bulgarian and 7% of Albanian testers have jewish admixture as well. Hungary maybe counts a double higher percentage than countries who arent really known for their jewish communities. It propably has more jews than the average European country but we shouldnt blow it out of proportion like the article does. The testers, as Beny said, are just upper middle class people.

SharpFork
08-25-2019, 07:49 PM
A lot of "Hungarian Americans" are in fact Jews (like the infamous George Soros who is often referred to as "Hungarian-born"), so if they base it on overseas test takers, it means little to nothing.


They are using MyHeritage as a reference. According to them, 12% of Ecuador, 11% of Mexican 10% of Romanian, 9% of Bulgarian and 7% of Albanian testers have jewish admixture as well. Hungary maybe counts a double higher percentage than countries who arent really known for their jewish communities. It propably has more jews than the average European country but we shouldnt blow it out of proportion like the article does. The testers, as Beny said, are just upper middle class people.

Guys you are right but mind that the % that was found through the study was 4.2% while the adjusted estimation is 1.3%, more than 3 times lower.

Cumansky
08-25-2019, 08:07 PM
As expected, lot of propagandas. Ok here is the facts.

8/14/19

"DNA STUDY REVEALS 130,000 HUNGARIANS ARE AT LEAST 50% JEWISH"

Atleast 1-2% are Jews.

"MyHeritage DNA study has revealed that Hungary’s population has the highest percentage of Jewish ancestry outside of Israel. In total, 100 countries were included in the research."

Highest in the world, past Israel.

"At least 7.6% of 4,981 people living in Hungary who took MyHeritage DNA test found to have 25% or more Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity"

7.6% are 1/4 Jewish descended.

“This is equivalent to having at least one grandparent who is fully Ashkenazi Jewish,” MyHeritage said. “This is a significantly higher percentage than the 3.5% observed in DNA test-takers living in the USA and 3% in Canada. The study also found that 12.5% of the people tested in Hungary had 10% or more Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity, compared to only 4.7% of people in the USA and 4.0% in Canada."

Less in USA and Canada.

Jana
08-25-2019, 08:10 PM
Jewish ancestry is common in middle class urban Hungarians, not in high classes (nobility) nor among pesantry.

SharpFork
08-25-2019, 08:16 PM
As expected, lot of propagandas. Ok here is the facts.

8/14/19

"DNA STUDY REVEALS 130,000 HUNGARIANS ARE AT LEAST 50% JEWISH"

Atleast 1-2% are Jews.

"MyHeritage DNA study has revealed that Hungary’s population has the highest percentage of Jewish ancestry outside of Israel. In total, 100 countries were included in the research."

Highest in the world, past Israel.

"At least 7.6% of 4,981 people living in Hungary who took MyHeritage DNA test found to have 25% or more Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity"

7.6% are 1/4 Jewish descended.

“This is equivalent to having at least one grandparent who is fully Ashkenazi Jewish,” MyHeritage said. “This is a significantly higher percentage than the 3.5% observed in DNA test-takers living in the USA and 3% in Canada. The study also found that 12.5% of the people tested in Hungary had 10% or more Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity, compared to only 4.7% of people in the USA and 4.0% in Canada."

Less in USA and Canada.

Fact is that those % are based on a self-selected sample, so they are pointless.

Cumansky
08-25-2019, 08:22 PM
Fact is that those % are based on a self-selected sample, so they are pointless.

You know what I can tell you, 100 countries in total were included in research

The Great Uniter
08-25-2019, 08:25 PM
Okkkkkkk, how did that Germanic Balkan looking Saami get Middle East and West Africa?

No noises, listen to the music for noises

Stears is a chad and a psycho. A psychochad.

Cumansky
08-25-2019, 08:30 PM
Stears is a chad and a psycho. A psychochad.

German Nazi and Jew lol, is psycho contradiction I know

Leto
08-25-2019, 08:30 PM
MyHeritage is not a very reliable company to begin with. People may get 3-4% Ashkenazi and the researchers would assume they are "1/32 Jewish".
Anyway, 7.6% of the tested people being at least 1/4 Jewish is not so much IMO. But a lot of poorer people in rural areas and small towns weren't even tested.

The Great Uniter
08-25-2019, 08:31 PM
German Nazi and Jew lol, is psycho contradiction I know

But he still can't be a Jew, he scores no Jewish. He is really an Illyro-Baltoteutonic.

someonenotyou
08-25-2019, 08:31 PM
Here is my k47

North Iberian
7.11%
East Iberian
2.83%
North African
0.39%
South Caucasian
2.96%
North Caucasian
5.15%
East Mediterranean
8.39%
Munda
0.86%
East European
20.70%
Central African Hunter Gatherer
0.45%
North Sea Germanic
14.28%
Celtic
9.82%
West Finnic
8.02%
Scando Germanic
6.58%
Iranian
4.65%
Baltic
1.40%
West Mediterranean
3.93%
Central Mediterranean
2.50%

The Great Uniter
08-25-2019, 08:32 PM
Here is my k47

North Iberian
7.11%
East Iberian
2.83%
North African
0.39%
South Caucasian
2.96%
North Caucasian
5.15%
East Mediterranean
8.39%
Munda
0.86%
East European
20.70%
Central African Hunter Gatherer
0.45%
North Sea Germanic
14.28%
Celtic
9.82%
West Finnic
8.02%
Scando Germanic
6.58%
Iranian
4.65%
Baltic
1.40%
West Mediterranean
3.93%
Central Mediterranean
2.50%

Are you Stears?

Jana
08-25-2019, 08:32 PM
German Nazi and Jew lol, is psycho contradiction I know

He doesn't have any Jewish, sorry. FTDNA has Ashkenazi and Sephardic cluster and he gets none there or anywhere else.

The Great Uniter
08-25-2019, 08:33 PM
He doesn't have any Jewish, sorry. FTDNA has Ashkenazi and Sephardic cluster and he gets none there or anywhere else.

You are his girl, right?

someonenotyou
08-25-2019, 08:33 PM
Are you Stears?

Don't know who that is. :P

Jana
08-25-2019, 08:34 PM
You are his girl, right?

Sort of. We are curently separated but still in relationship/marriage. My main interest here is genetics. Hungarians have very interesting DNA.

Cumansky
08-25-2019, 08:34 PM
He doesn't have any Jewish, sorry. FTDNA has Ashkenazi and Sephardic cluster and he gets none there or anywhere else.

Good calculator for that is K47

The Great Uniter
08-25-2019, 08:34 PM
Don't know who that is. :P

The menace of Rumanians.

Jana
08-25-2019, 08:35 PM
Good calculator for that is K47

I forgot his password huh. But ony MyHeritage he gets 0 Jewish too. He gets South Asia though.

The Great Uniter
08-25-2019, 08:36 PM
Sort of. We are curently separated but still in relationship/marriage. My main interest here is genetics. Hungarians have very interesting DNA.

If you are really currently separated you can't actually be still in relationship but you typographically married on papers. What do you score in your DNA?

someonenotyou
08-25-2019, 08:36 PM
The menace of Rumanians.

So he's Romanian?

The Great Uniter
08-25-2019, 08:38 PM
So he's Romanian?

A Hungarian cossack.

Cumansky
08-25-2019, 08:38 PM
So he's Romanian?

No lol, but I'm bigtime Romanian

Jana
08-25-2019, 08:38 PM
If you are really currently separated you can't actually be still in relationship but you typographically married on papers. What do you score in your DNA?

Slavo-Vlach mainly, little German, typical Croatian result. :)

The Great Uniter
08-25-2019, 08:39 PM
Slavo-Vlach mainly, little German, typical Croatian result. :)

What is Slavo-Vlach? Aromanian but with little Slavic? Like me but with Slavic? Then lol welcome to the tribe

nittionia
08-25-2019, 08:42 PM
I would recommend wegene before myheritage

Jana
08-25-2019, 08:43 PM
What is Slavo-Vlach? Aromanian but with little Slavic? Like me but with Slavic? Then lol welcome to the tribe

My Vlach is Illyrian. I am Croat from Dalmatia.
But my biggest component is Slavic, Vlach is close second.

You Aromanians are part Illyrian too.

Dick
08-25-2019, 08:44 PM
https://i.imgur.com/HXNR4W3.png

The Great Uniter
08-25-2019, 08:47 PM
My Vlach is Illyrian. I am Croat from Dalmatia.
But my biggest component is Slavic, Vlach is close second.

You Aromanians are part Illyrian too.

Yeah, downies and omniautistics believe i am thracian and i look like Vojnik despite looking nothing like him. It's the shape of the beard mostly. I am an Illyro-Dacian or Illyro-Greeco to be exact.

Token
08-25-2019, 09:01 PM
Ok for Stears from most to least

1. Slavic
2. Dacian
3. German (it is bit higher than 4% British on FTDNA, east euro reference includes Czechs who have quite NW Euro in them)
5. Uralic
6. Indian/Siberian/MENA

Where is Stears G25 coordinates? I want to dissect him like a laboratory rat.

Jana
08-25-2019, 09:18 PM
Where is Stears G25 coordinates? I want to dissect him like a laboratory rat.

Hey, I try to get it from him :)

Dick
08-25-2019, 10:01 PM
Where is Stears G25 coordinates? I want to dissect him like a laboratory rat.

Which samples are good to use for a middle ages calculator.

Token
08-25-2019, 10:06 PM
Which samples are good to use for a middle ages calculator.

Still very few Middle Ages samples, and basically all of them are from North-Central Europe.