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Dothrakian
08-27-2019, 08:16 PM
So I just wanna start off by saying that I made a thread in the past because I thought I was of gypsy ancestry because my mom was from Bosnia but more brown than Europeans (She is adopted) and I am like light brown as well, however, it seems that to be gypsy you are supposed to have South Asian dna because of the fact that they are from India initially, however, from my actual DNA results, as well as running all types of tests on GEDmatch it seems like I can't really find it anywhere, however, what does seem to be found on the DNA test, as well as GEDmatch seem to be North African DNA? Is this common for people from Bosnia to mix with, as opposed to like the gypsies that you see there?

Also quick note: Dad = Ashkenazi jewish + Arab Israeli. Mom = Bosnia + North Africa(?)



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.19
2 Baltic 20.02
3 West_Med 19.51
4 North_Atlantic 18.09
5 West_Asian 8.96
6 Red_Sea 3.64
7 Northeast_African 1.3
8 Oceanian 1.12
9 East_Asian 0.6
10 Sub-Saharan 0.29
11 Siberian 0.21
12 Amerindian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.91
2 Bulgarian 7.98
3 Romanian 10.43
4 Central_Greek 10.94
5 East_Sicilian 11.59
6 Ashkenazi 11.99
7 West_Sicilian 12.11
8 Italian_Abruzzo 12.13
9 Tuscan 12.66
10 Serbian 14.12
11 South_Italian 14.88
12 North_Italian 16.16
13 Algerian_Jewish 18.8
14 Italian_Jewish 19.04
15 Moldavian 19.52
16 Sephardic_Jewish 19.67
17 Hungarian 22.29
18 Croatian 22.33
19 Tunisian_Jewish 22.58
20 Libyan_Jewish 22.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.4% Algerian_Jewish + 38.6% Ukrainian @ 2.61
2 63.4% Algerian_Jewish + 36.6% Southwest_Russian @ 3.01
3 68.2% Algerian_Jewish + 31.8% Lithuanian @ 3.02
4 64.9% Algerian_Jewish + 35.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.03
5 65.1% Algerian_Jewish + 34.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.04
6 54.4% Algerian_Jewish + 45.6% Croatian @ 3.05
7 60.5% Algerian_Jewish + 39.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.1
8 61.1% Italian_Jewish + 38.9% Ukrainian @ 3.12
9 61.2% Algerian_Jewish + 38.8% South_Polish @ 3.15
10 63.8% Algerian_Jewish + 36.2% Polish @ 3.15
11 65.5% Algerian_Jewish + 34.5% Belorussian @ 3.17
12 63.6% Algerian_Jewish + 36.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.17
13 65.7% Ashkenazi + 34.3% Croatian @ 3.2
14 61.3% Bulgarian + 38.7% Ashkenazi @ 3.24
15 62.5% Ashkenazi + 37.5% Moldavian @ 3.28
16 51% Algerian_Jewish + 49% Moldavian @ 3.3
17 71.8% Bulgarian + 28.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.3
18 71.9% Ashkenazi + 28.1% Ukrainian @ 3.35
19 68% Italian_Jewish + 32% Lithuanian @ 3.44
20 64.8% Italian_Jewish + 35.2% Estonian_Polish @ 3.45

CommonSense
08-27-2019, 08:54 PM
I don't see anything particularly unusual about these results considering your ethnic background. People with Balkan Gypsy ancestry will always get some South Asian score, unless it's really distant....for example if you had a Gypsy great grandparent your South Asian percentage on Eurogenes K13 would be 3-4.

Also, how 'brown' are we talking about? Some people in Bosnia can be pretty swarthy without necessarily having Gypsy admixture. A clear sign of being mixed is having Indian, Orientalid or Armenoid features as well as distinct yellowish brown skin undertone.

Leto
08-27-2019, 09:02 PM
Swarthy or tanned in summer is not really synomymous with brown. Especially in Southern Europe people see more sun than up there in Sweden or Finland.

54.4% Algerian_Jewish + 45.6% Croatian @ 3.05
51% Algerian_Jewish + 49% Moldavian @ 3.3

Nothing unusual to me.
I suggest you post K15, Dodecad and MDLP K23b.

Dothrakian
08-27-2019, 09:05 PM
Sorry. First of all from my dads side I was supposed to write ashkenazi jewish (Polish heritage). As for anything particularly unusal... I didn't mean weird in the sense that my results were supposed to be weird in general, meant more weird in terms of them not really being what I expected them to be. I always hear that if you are like brown and from a balkan country, odds are that you pretty much are gypspy, and from what I have heard, which is like you said, there will always be some south asian on the DNA, which there were non on mine. I mean with my mom or me, both of us, like I said are darker than south europeans, but then I guess that possibly is from the North African that I have scored, wouldn't you say so like looking at these results? I am still kind of new to everything with DNA and such so I am trying to learn and understand what it even is that I am reading lmao.

Also, can you give example on the yellowish brown skin undertone you are talking about?

JosephK
08-27-2019, 09:07 PM
Yeah looks right to me, especially if you're part MENA/Jewish.. Eurogenes isn't going to know the difference. I'm about 1/4-1/8 Roma, absolutely no MENA or Jewish background, and I get:

67.6% Southwest_Finnish + 32.4% Tuscan @ 2.64
2 71% Southwest_Finnish + 29% West_Sicilian @ 2.65
3 75.8% Southwest_Finnish + 24.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.83
4 70.3% Southwest_Finnish + 29.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.01
5 76% Southwest_Finnish + 24% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.11
6 51.4% Serbian + 48.6% North_Swedish @ 3.27
7 73.9% Southwest_Finnish + 26.1% South_Italian @ 3.27
8 76.2% Southwest_Finnish + 23.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.36
9 78.5% Hungarian + 21.5% North_Swedish @ 3.44
10 72.3% Southwest_Finnish + 27.7% East_Sicilian @ 3.45
11 61% North_Swedish + 39% Bulgarian @ 3.5
12 72.7% Southwest_Finnish + 27.3% Ashkenazi @ 3.54
13 80.7% Hungarian + 19.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.56
14 77.5% Southwest_Finnish + 22.5% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.6
15 71.8% Southwest_Finnish + 28.2% Central_Greek @ 3.66
16 57% North_Swedish + 43% Romanian @ 3.7
17 66.9% Southwest_Finnish + 33.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.71
18 53.8% Serbian + 46.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.78
19 77.7% Southwest_Finnish + 22.3% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.78
20 59.2% Finnish + 40.8% North_Italian @ 3.81


Let's see your MDLP World, that's my favorite... Eurogenes is really just for pure Euros, I think...

CommonSense
08-27-2019, 09:12 PM
Sorry. First of all from my dads side I was supposed to write ashkenazi jewish (Polish heritage). As for anything particularly unusal... I didn't mean weird in the sense that my results were supposed to be weird in general, meant more weird in terms of them not really being what I expected them to be. I always hear that if you are like brown and from a balkan country, odds are that you pretty much are gypspy, and from what I have heard, which is like you said, there will always be some south asian on the DNA, which there were non on mine. I mean with my mom or me, both of us, like I said are darker than south europeans, but then I guess that possibly is from the North African that I have scored, wouldn't you say so like looking at these results? I am still kind of new to everything with DNA and such so I am trying to learn and understand what it even is that I am reading lmao.

Also, can you give example on the yellowish brown skin undertone you are talking about?

Sure. Coincidentally, I was just mentioning that in another thread I had made. People of mixed background often have a skin tone like this one:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?299348-Classify-an-English-guy-(1-4-Gypsy)

Another good example would be the popular youtuber 'Mudja' (look him up).

I assume you have some close matches from the Balkans on your match list. Can you tell me what ethnicity they are and do any of them score South Asian?

Dothrakian
08-27-2019, 09:14 PM
K15:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.87
2 West_Med 15.28
3 Baltic 14.89
4 North_Sea 12.62
5 Atlantic 12.07
6 West_Asian 9.12
7 Eastern_Euro 6.6
8 Red_Sea 3.83
9 Northeast_African 1.48
10 Oceanian 1
11 Southeast_Asian 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 5.2
2 Greek 6.61
3 Bulgarian 7.85
4 Romanian 9.93
5 Ashkenazi 10
6 Central_Greek 10.49
7 East_Sicilian 11.01
8 Italian_Abruzzo 11.37
9 Tuscan 11.75
10 West_Sicilian 11.98
11 Serbian 13.1
12 South_Italian 13.44
13 North_Italian 15.49
14 Italian_Jewish 16.6
15 Moldavian 17.43
16 Algerian_Jewish 17.67
17 Sephardic_Jewish 17.76
18 Croatian 19.43
19 Hungarian 19.65
20 Austrian 20.02

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.5% Algerian_Jewish + 41.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.58
2 67% Italian_Jewish + 33% Lithuanian @ 3.63
3 60.1% Italian_Jewish + 39.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.73
4 75.2% Bulgarian + 24.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.77
5 61.2% Italian_Jewish + 38.8% Ukrainian @ 3.81
6 59.6% Algerian_Jewish + 40.4% Ukrainian @ 3.81
7 71.9% South_Italian + 28.1% Lithuanian @ 3.86
8 76.2% East_Sicilian + 23.8% Lithuanian @ 4.01
9 50.4% Moldavian + 49.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.07
10 91% Greek_Thessaly + 9% Lithuanian @ 4.07
11 66.5% South_Italian + 33.5% Ukrainian @ 4.11
12 90.4% Greek_Thessaly + 9.6% Belorussian @ 4.13
13 65.6% South_Italian + 34.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.17
14 90.6% Greek_Thessaly + 9.4% Estonian_Polish @ 4.18
15 51.3% Italian_Jewish + 48.7% Moldavian @ 4.2
16 90.3% Greek_Thessaly + 9.7% Southwest_Russian @ 4.23
17 90.2% Greek_Thessaly + 9.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.23
18 59.6% Algerian_Jewish + 40.4% South_Polish @ 4.23
19 61.2% Italian_Jewish + 38.8% South_Polish @ 4.24
20 90.3% Greek_Thessaly + 9.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.28





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MDLP K23b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 32.52
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 24.61
3 European_Early_Farmers 21.66
4 Near_East 9.07
5 South_Central_Asian 4.1
6 North_African 3.17
7 Australoid 1.49
8 East_African 1.32
9 Melano_Polynesian 0.74
10 Ancestral_Altaic 0.59
11 Archaic_African 0.57
12 Archaic_Human 0.17
13 South_Indian -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Montenegrian ( ) 6.27
2 Sicilian_West ( ) 6.52
3 Serb_Serbia ( ) 6.76
4 Bulgarian ( ) 7.34
5 Macedonian ( ) 7.38
6 Serb_BH ( ) 8.05
7 Croat ( ) 8.1
8 Greek_Northwest ( ) 8.22
9 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 8.41
10 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 8.46
11 Maltese ( ) 8.7
12 Bosnian ( ) 8.84
13 Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 8.94
14 Croat_BH ( ) 9.68
15 Kosovar ( ) 9.68
16 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 9.87
17 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 9.89
18 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 10.29
19 Slovenian ( ) 10.44
20 Italian_North ( ) 10.48

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.8% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) + 36.2% German ( ) @ 2.68
2 66.3% South_German ( ) + 33.7% Christian_Arabs_Israel ( ) @ 2.73
3 69.4% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) + 30.6% Lithuanian ( ) @ 2.83
4 63.1% Sicilian_West ( ) + 36.9% Slovenian ( ) @ 2.86
5 68.7% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) + 31.3% Russian_Center ( ) @ 2.89
6 64.1% Sicilian_West ( ) + 35.9% Hungarian ( ) @ 2.91
7 62.8% Sicilian_West ( ) + 37.2% Hungarian_Budapest ( ) @ 2.92
8 64.5% South_German ( ) + 35.5% Lebanese_Christian ( ) @ 2.93
9 69.3% Sicilian_West ( ) + 30.7% Slovak ( ) @ 2.94
10 69.4% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) + 30.6% Kuban_cossack ( ) @ 2.98
11 59.4% South_German ( ) + 40.6% Cypriot ( ) @ 2.98
12 59.8% Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) + 40.2% Austrian ( ) @ 3
13 67.3% Sicilian_West ( ) + 32.7% Czech ( ) @ 3.05
14 72.8% Sicilian_West ( ) + 27.2% Kashub ( ) @ 3.08
15 52.5% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) + 47.5% Hungarian ( ) @ 3.09
16 55.8% North_German ( ) + 44.2% Cypriot ( ) @ 3.09
17 50% Sicilian_East ( ) + 50% Austrian ( ) @ 3.09
18 67.1% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) + 32.9% Belarusian_South ( ) @ 3.1
19 68.1% South_German ( ) + 31.9% Druze ( ) @ 3.1
20 67.1% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) + 32.9% Belarusian ( ) @ 3.11






Which version of Dodecad is it you want me to do?

Dothrakian
08-27-2019, 09:16 PM
Yeah I get the the MENA and Jewish part from my dad. And here, also posted below:

K15:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.87
2 West_Med 15.28
3 Baltic 14.89
4 North_Sea 12.62
5 Atlantic 12.07
6 West_Asian 9.12
7 Eastern_Euro 6.6
8 Red_Sea 3.83
9 Northeast_African 1.48
10 Oceanian 1
11 Southeast_Asian 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 5.2
2 Greek 6.61
3 Bulgarian 7.85
4 Romanian 9.93
5 Ashkenazi 10
6 Central_Greek 10.49
7 East_Sicilian 11.01
8 Italian_Abruzzo 11.37
9 Tuscan 11.75
10 West_Sicilian 11.98
11 Serbian 13.1
12 South_Italian 13.44
13 North_Italian 15.49
14 Italian_Jewish 16.6
15 Moldavian 17.43
16 Algerian_Jewish 17.67
17 Sephardic_Jewish 17.76
18 Croatian 19.43
19 Hungarian 19.65
20 Austrian 20.02

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.5% Algerian_Jewish + 41.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.58
2 67% Italian_Jewish + 33% Lithuanian @ 3.63
3 60.1% Italian_Jewish + 39.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.73
4 75.2% Bulgarian + 24.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.77
5 61.2% Italian_Jewish + 38.8% Ukrainian @ 3.81
6 59.6% Algerian_Jewish + 40.4% Ukrainian @ 3.81
7 71.9% South_Italian + 28.1% Lithuanian @ 3.86
8 76.2% East_Sicilian + 23.8% Lithuanian @ 4.01
9 50.4% Moldavian + 49.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.07
10 91% Greek_Thessaly + 9% Lithuanian @ 4.07
11 66.5% South_Italian + 33.5% Ukrainian @ 4.11
12 90.4% Greek_Thessaly + 9.6% Belorussian @ 4.13
13 65.6% South_Italian + 34.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.17
14 90.6% Greek_Thessaly + 9.4% Estonian_Polish @ 4.18
15 51.3% Italian_Jewish + 48.7% Moldavian @ 4.2
16 90.3% Greek_Thessaly + 9.7% Southwest_Russian @ 4.23
17 90.2% Greek_Thessaly + 9.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.23
18 59.6% Algerian_Jewish + 40.4% South_Polish @ 4.23
19 61.2% Italian_Jewish + 38.8% South_Polish @ 4.24
20 90.3% Greek_Thessaly + 9.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.28





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MDLP K23b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 32.52
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 24.61
3 European_Early_Farmers 21.66
4 Near_East 9.07
5 South_Central_Asian 4.1
6 North_African 3.17
7 Australoid 1.49
8 East_African 1.32
9 Melano_Polynesian 0.74
10 Ancestral_Altaic 0.59
11 Archaic_African 0.57
12 Archaic_Human 0.17
13 South_Indian -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Montenegrian ( ) 6.27
2 Sicilian_West ( ) 6.52
3 Serb_Serbia ( ) 6.76
4 Bulgarian ( ) 7.34
5 Macedonian ( ) 7.38
6 Serb_BH ( ) 8.05
7 Croat ( ) 8.1
8 Greek_Northwest ( ) 8.22
9 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 8.41
10 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 8.46
11 Maltese ( ) 8.7
12 Bosnian ( ) 8.84
13 Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 8.94
14 Croat_BH ( ) 9.68
15 Kosovar ( ) 9.68
16 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 9.87
17 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 9.89
18 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 10.29
19 Slovenian ( ) 10.44
20 Italian_North ( ) 10.48

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.8% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) + 36.2% German ( ) @ 2.68
2 66.3% South_German ( ) + 33.7% Christian_Arabs_Israel ( ) @ 2.73
3 69.4% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) + 30.6% Lithuanian ( ) @ 2.83
4 63.1% Sicilian_West ( ) + 36.9% Slovenian ( ) @ 2.86
5 68.7% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) + 31.3% Russian_Center ( ) @ 2.89
6 64.1% Sicilian_West ( ) + 35.9% Hungarian ( ) @ 2.91
7 62.8% Sicilian_West ( ) + 37.2% Hungarian_Budapest ( ) @ 2.92
8 64.5% South_German ( ) + 35.5% Lebanese_Christian ( ) @ 2.93
9 69.3% Sicilian_West ( ) + 30.7% Slovak ( ) @ 2.94
10 69.4% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) + 30.6% Kuban_cossack ( ) @ 2.98
11 59.4% South_German ( ) + 40.6% Cypriot ( ) @ 2.98
12 59.8% Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) + 40.2% Austrian ( ) @ 3
13 67.3% Sicilian_West ( ) + 32.7% Czech ( ) @ 3.05
14 72.8% Sicilian_West ( ) + 27.2% Kashub ( ) @ 3.08
15 52.5% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) + 47.5% Hungarian ( ) @ 3.09
16 55.8% North_German ( ) + 44.2% Cypriot ( ) @ 3.09
17 50% Sicilian_East ( ) + 50% Austrian ( ) @ 3.09
18 67.1% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) + 32.9% Belarusian_South ( ) @ 3.1
19 68.1% South_German ( ) + 31.9% Druze ( ) @ 3.1
20 67.1% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) + 32.9% Belarusian ( ) @ 3.11

Leto
08-27-2019, 09:17 PM
Dodecad K12b is the best.

Dothrakian
08-27-2019, 09:21 PM
K12b:

# Population Percent
1 North_European 27.18
2 Atlantic_Med 27.14
3 Caucasus 25.99
4 Southwest_Asian 10.4
5 Gedrosia 4.69
6 Northwest_African 2.81
7 South_Asian 1.16
8 Southeast_Asian 0.37
9 Siberian 0.21
10 East_Asian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 8.81
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 9.67
3 Romanians (Behar) 10.15
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 10.36
5 Greek (Dodecad) 12.28
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 13.05
7 TSI30 (Metspalu) 13.73
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 13.9
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 14.67
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 17.2
11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 17.26
12 North_Italian (HGDP) 17.39
13 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 17.59
14 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.66
15 Hungarians (Behar) 22.6
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.03
17 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 23.91
18 Baleares (1000Genomes) 24.36
19 Galicia (1000Genomes) 24.54
20 Portuguese (Dodecad) 25.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.7% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 32.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.66
2 50.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 49.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.67
3 67.6% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 32.4% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.82
4 60% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 40% German (Dodecad) @ 2.32
5 51.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 48.6% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 2.33
6 67.7% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 32.3% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.4
7 67.8% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 32.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.46
8 59.9% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 40.1% German (Dodecad) @ 2.6
9 74.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25.2% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.92
10 75.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 24.6% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 2.97
11 54.4% Cypriots (Behar) + 45.6% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.04
12 74.9% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25.1% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 3.06
13 75.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 24.5% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 3.14
14 68.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 31.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.18
15 56.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 43.1% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.26
16 54.4% Cypriots (Behar) + 45.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.27
17 57% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 43% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.35
18 68.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 31.5% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.45
19 56.4% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 43.6% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.47
20 53.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 46.7% German (Dodecad) @ 3.52

Dothrakian
08-27-2019, 09:26 PM
I looked at the Mudja guy, and I dont think it's really the same, no. And as for if they score a lot of south asian idk

Lucas
08-27-2019, 09:28 PM
If I can ask. It is very unusual in Israel to find such mix (Ashkenazi + Israeli Arab) ?

Jana
08-27-2019, 09:34 PM
Nothing Gypsy here. Your results indicate your mother is normal Bosnian (either Bosniak, Serb or Croat). Phenotype is subjective thing. My uncle passes as Gypsy but he is not.

Leto
08-27-2019, 09:36 PM
Sure. Coincidentally, I was just mentioning that in another thread I had made. People of mixed background often have a skin tone like this one:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?299348-Classify-an-English-guy-(1-4-Gypsy)

Another good example would be the popular youtuber 'Mudja' (look him up).

I assume you have some close matches from the Balkans on your match list. Can you tell me what ethnicity they are and do any of them score South Asian?
He is white. Over 95% European and 86% North(western) European. But does look somewhat exotic. Let me know if he uploads to GEDmatch.

Dothrakian
08-27-2019, 09:36 PM
Did you look at all results I posted? Also if so, then I have another question... Is it common then worth North Africans in Bosnia? Since that seems to be the indicator.

Leto
08-27-2019, 09:38 PM
Are you Israeli? I'm sure you'd fit in Israel like a glove phenotypically.

Dothrakian
08-27-2019, 09:40 PM
Yeah of course :). I have no idea. I have never been to Israel myself or anything, grew up in Sweden, Swedish is literally all I know. So like I said how my dad is Ashkenazi and Israeli Arab, his mom and dad actually met in Sweden. The Ashkenazi, my grandmother, on that side there is holocaust survivor and what not on her side, so they lived in Poland for a while before eventually settling here in Sweden, as for my grandfather, his mom lived in Lebanon before 1948 and came to Israel. Since both of them didn't actually grow up in Israel, then I assume it would be maybe more common for them to be together, since they didn't grow up with any of the war and was quite oblivious to it.

TL;Dr: No idea

karakartal
08-27-2019, 09:42 PM
Don't take serious a low component. I see Pomak man get African percentage. It's normal for Balkans. This calculators is so old. I get Amerindian and Oceanian percentage. This results not inaccurate for your ancestry.

Dothrakian
08-27-2019, 09:42 PM
If I would ever be asked what I consider myself, then I literally write down other, because I genuinely don't know how to describe myself. I was born in Sweden, mom was adopted to Sweden when she was born and dad was born in Sweden as well, however dad is half arab Israeli, with grandfathers mom coming from Lebanon to Israel after the country was established and he was born there, and as for my mom you already know, Bosnia and then what I am assuming was North Africa, which country I don't know. So I am literally mixed from everywhere it seems :D

Dothrakian
08-27-2019, 09:43 PM
Which low percentage was it you had in mind that I shouldn't take serious? :)

Leto
08-27-2019, 09:45 PM
I would say culturally you must be fully assimilated in Sweden even without a drop of Swedish blood.

Dothrakian
08-27-2019, 09:48 PM
What do you mean? Yeah I am definitely fully assimilated in Sweden, as are my parents haha. Even though my dad is Ashkenazi and arab israeli, he is not religious or anything like that, and as for my mom, since she was adopted, she literally got adopted by the most Swedish couple ever, going back too many generations. :D

karakartal
08-27-2019, 09:48 PM
Which low percentage was it you had in mind that I shouldn't take serious? :)

%1.9 below

Dothrakian
08-27-2019, 09:50 PM
Okay. Thank you so much for assistance, same goes to everyone who came in here. Glad to get some answers lol.

Pine
08-27-2019, 09:55 PM
What's your JTest oracle + output? I'm confused -was your Lebanese grandparent a Muslim, a Jew, or a Christian? I'm confused.

Dothrakian
08-27-2019, 09:57 PM
They were Christian.

ModernMaskil
08-27-2019, 09:58 PM
Apologies for prodding when you're asking about your genetic results, but why did your great grandmother go to Israel in 1948? She was definitely Lebanese-Arab and not Jewish?

EDIT: Nevermind, you answered, but why in 48'?

Dothrakian
08-27-2019, 10:11 PM
No worries, don't mind answering any questions. To be honest... Even though I am relatively close with my grandfather, there has never been a point in life where we have really spoken about her. When I was young and didn't know about Israel's history or anything like that, then I thought that he had always been there, and not even that he was arab israeli or whatever, but just "native israeli" (lol).

I literally have no idea why she choose to go to Israel. I know that both his mom and dad were born in Lebanon, and I know that they were christian, don't really know a lot about history of the middle east even now, maybe christians in Lebanon back then weren't like super accepted, and it was maybe more accepted or something in Israel when that was created? Your guess is as good as mine.

The fact that he even originally had family from Lebanon I didn't even find out from him, but from my uncle. So I don't know if maybe he just doesn't like bringing up the fact that he is arab Israeli? Like even this term is something I have just found out from online, to me, he always said he was just Israeli and nothing else.

Jana
08-27-2019, 10:29 PM
Did you look at all results I posted? Also if so, then I have another question... Is it common then worth North Africans in Bosnia? Since that seems to be the indicator.

North African is most probably from your Jewish/Arab ancestry.

21993
08-27-2019, 11:17 PM
Maybe your mother's side was Bosnian Jewish?