Classify Greek/E-V13id original?

[Dorian]

https://i.postimg.cc/HLDyz9Tq/1.png (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/mkH4mCLn/2.png (https://postimg.cc/y3s2dJSh)

https://i.postimg.cc/6psqx6FR/3.png (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/dQkZbfDb/4.png (https://postimg.cc/WtV4rXG8)

https://i.postimg.cc/YjBHZ0jC/5.png (https://postimg.cc/jncmJszp)

https://i.postimg.cc/sX2D4MZF/6.png (https://postimages.org/)

[Carpatz]

https://i.postimg.cc/dQkZbfDb/4.png

He has the skull shape of his E-V13 primogenitor Yakub


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8c/26/d2/8c26d21a47d7d791bcee520487ba4bdf.jpg

[Hulu]

unlikely

[Bakha]

Doesnt look greek to me, looks typical eggheaded catalan

[TheMaestro]

Looks a bit like Guardiola.

[Dorian]

unlikely

Elaborate?

[Dorian]

Classification?

[catgeorge]

The man has psionic powers with that head - its an anomaly.

Typical Med - tall, slim, straight nose, long face natufian.

[TheMaestro]

The man has psionic powers with that head - its an anomaly.

Typical Med - tall, slim, straight nose, long face natufian.

Meds are not known for being tall.

[catgeorge]

Meds are not known for being tall.

Your opinion. They definitely are especially in Greece.

[Benyzero]

Your opinion. They definitely are especially in Greece.

balkan slav influence probably.

[catgeorge]

balkan slav influence probably.

We are taller than Fyromskis and Bulgarians. Next stupidity?

[Benyzero]

who knows , new generations are taller everywhere

[Dorian]

"Med" as a phenotype is generic ,If I'm not mistaken only gracile ones are known for being short.Short "Meds" as a geographical term doesn't include Greeks at least but let's not derail the thread.

[chociprasa]

Pontid + Anatolid.

[Hulu]

Elaborate?

I don't know any ev13 that looks like him. He must be some sort of J i think

[Blondie]

Atlanto-med

[catgeorge]

who knows , new generations are taller everywhere

Greece has been playing at the top echelons of European Basketball for longer than a generation.

You can not assemble top basketball teams if your people are not tall on average. Not only tall but also have the appropriate talent.

[Hulu]

Greece has been playing at the top echelons of European Basketball for longer than a generation.

You can not assemble top basketball teams if your people are not tall on average. Not only tall but also have the appropriate talent.

it's the ssa

[catgeorge]

it's the ssa

There's proof

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/560195f3e4b0fcc5265b7b78/562b0f76e4b0b7066cf45af6/5b431e352b6a28b390d3ba1b/1560235446775/36642788_1068254689966301_8348496157961355264_n.jp g

[21993]

Atlanto-Med

[Dorian]

I don't know any ev13 that looks like him. He must be some sort of J i think

It was supposed to mean how(I imagine) the first proto ev13s looked though,I thought you would say the first ev13s looked alpine or something...other than that you can't make such correlations with modern people&their phenotype and even If you could somehow , the guy has some crazy lemonhead to be correlated with anything.

[Dorian]

Greece has been playing at the top echelons of European Basketball for longer than a generation.

You can not assemble top basketball teams if your people are not tall on average. Not only tall but also have the appropriate talent.

You don't need such argument ,one could say that the selectivity of the sport "gathers" the tallest minority, you don't need it..besides people from dinaric alps,dutch or traditionally short nations( where you can say there are some good genetic reasons )..the rest will reach a balance when millenials become the oldest group since previous generations of war ,famines etc decrease the average and our own 1,77-78 is already fine.

[Hulu]

It was supposed to mean how(I imagine) the first proto ev13s looked though,I thought you would say the first ev13s looked alpine or something...other than that you can't make such correlations with modern people&their phenotype and even If you could somehow , the guy has some crazy lemonhead to be correlated with anything.

What's your presumption based on?

[Dorian]

What's your presumption based on?

The combination of hyperdolichocephaly(which seems like a throwback to me like some uber CM people in north/west for example),robust to some degree(compared to most dolis)&dark skin("wheaty" could be called in Greek).

[Daos777]

The man has psionic powers with that head - its an anomaly.

Typical Med - tall, slim, straight nose, long face natufian.

What did Natufians look like?

Also Natufian E is further away from E-V13 than ancient North African Iberomaurusian E which showed direct parent clades to E-V13

“Loosdrecht et al. (2018) analysed genome-wide data from seven ancient individuals from the Iberomaurusian Grotte des Pigeons site near Taforalt in eastern Morocco. The fossils were directly dated to between 15,100 and 13,900 calibrated years before present. The scientists found that all males belonged to haplogroup E1b1b, common among Afroasiatic males. The male specimens with sufficient nuclear DNA preservation belonged to the paternal haplogroup E1b1b1a1 (M78), with one skeleton bearing the E1b1b1a1b1 parent lineage to E-V13, one male specimen belonged to E1b1b (M215*). “

Therefore, E-V13 carriers would most likely resemble Afalou man much more than any Natufian.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechta-Afalou

North African hunter gatherers looked significantly different than Natufians even though they shared DNA.


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[Hulu]

The combination of hyperdolichocephaly(which seems like a throwback to me like some uber CM people in north/west for example),robust to some degree(compared to most dolis)&dark skin("wheaty" could be called in Greek).

Doesn't make sense

[Dorian]

What did Natufians look like?

Also Natufian E is further away from E-V13 than ancient North African Iberomaurusian E which showed direct parent clades to E-V13

“Loosdrecht et al. (2018) analysed genome-wide data from seven ancient individuals from the Iberomaurusian Grotte des Pigeons site near Taforalt in eastern Morocco. The fossils were directly dated to between 15,100 and 13,900 calibrated years before present. The scientists found that all males belonged to haplogroup E1b1b, common among Afroasiatic males. The male specimens with sufficient nuclear DNA preservation belonged to the paternal haplogroup E1b1b1a1 (M78), with one skeleton bearing the E1b1b1a1b1 parent lineage to E-V13, one male specimen belonged to E1b1b (M215*). “

Therefore, E-V13 carriers would most likely resemble Afalou man much more than any Natufian.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechta-Afalou

North African hunter gatherers looked significantly different than Natufians even though they shared DNA.


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I think you have to take into account the autosomal and I'm noob regarding it .. but whatever is that they share genetically ,it will be expressed phenotypically(in different numbers maybe) along with their own seperate evolutions,mixtures or both.
Simply put one does not exclude the other ,as an example If Dinaric is an hybrid(or adaptation and there's close distance) between(or with) Alpines(UP)&Meds ,you won't only find the hybrid/adaptation in its area but its two ancestral components as well(unless there's selective pressure?).
In this case there will be something "E" that can be shared between Natufians &Afaloids, just my thoughts though and I could be wrong,what do you think?

( https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anthroscape/carleton-coon-on-saharan-africa-and-negroes-t5674.html )

[Dorian]

Doesn't make sense

Ok , how do you imagine the first ev13 settlers?

[TheMaestro]

Your opinion. They definitely are especially in Greece.

And same goes for Greeks, they are not known for being tall, they are probably shortest people in Europe with coastal Albanians.

[Hulu]

Ok , how do you imagine the first ev13 settlers?

https://s3.amazonaws.com/charitycdn/cache/resizedcrop-2f9eade5f018fed4a5ba9e02d602d7b6-840x480.jpg

[Dorian]

https://s3.amazonaws.com/charitycdn/cache/resizedcrop-2f9eade5f018fed4a5ba9e02d602d7b6-840x480.jpg

Very nice..

[Daos777]

I think you have to take into account the autosomal and I'm noob regarding it .. but whatever is that they share genetically ,it will be expressed phenotypically(in different numbers maybe) along with their own seperate evolutions,mixtures or both.
Simply put one does not exclude the other ,as an example If Dinaric is an hybrid(or adaptation and there's close distance) between(or with) Alpines(UP)&Meds ,you won't only find the hybrid/adaptation in its area but its two ancestral components as well(unless there's selective pressure?).
In this case there will be something "E" that can be shared between Natufians &Afaloids, just my thoughts though and I could be wrong,what do you think?

( https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/anthroscape/carleton-coon-on-saharan-africa-and-negroes-t5674.html )

There definitely were features shared by both of them but they still looked significantly different in my opinion. And because Afaloids are closer to E-V13(their skeletons actually bearing the most recent parent clades to E-V13.) its best to compare E-V13 to the most recent ancestor that we know of.

Bodytypes, height, facial width, and ect also change much faster than people believe. One good shortage of food and water and a lot of your height genes die off for example. So to get even more precise we would need more recent European E-V13. A good example would be that Thracian E-V13 that they found. But no mention of his skeletal proportions or facial proportions were given.

The differences between Afaloids and Natufians are given here.

https://www.persee.fr/doc/paleo_0153-9345_1995_num_21_2_4620




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[catgeorge]

And same goes for Greeks, they are not known for being tall, they are probably shortest people in Europe with coastal Albanians.

..and you are an idiot that just ruined a thread. Well done dickhead.

[MiloshN]

Share more E-V13 examples :)

[TheMaestro]

..and you are an idiot that just ruined a thread. Well done dickhead.

How am I idiot? For saying that meds are not tall? Which is true? And saying that neither Greeks are tall, which is true again? If you cant face the facts then just go hang yourself kid.

[Dorian]

How am I idiot? For saying that meds are not tall? Which is true? And saying that neither Greeks are tall, which is true again? If you cant face the facts then just go hang yourself kid.

Go open another thread,provide sources,numbers etc otherwise hajde ktu malok(I'm not really tall but these maloks are usually to the height of my balls).

[TheMaestro]

Go open another thread,provide sources,numbers etc otherwise hajde ktu malok(I'm not really tall but these maloks are usually to the height of my balls).

LOL, so you want to tell me that Greeks and Meds are tall are you dumb? :D

[The Great Uniter]

LOL, so you want to tell me that Greeks and Meds are tall are you dumb? :D

Greeks aren't that tall, they are overexaggerating some bullshit. The tallest "Greeks" are actually Aromanians. Serbs and Lithuanians and also Russians obsess over basketball, the second ones are shortstuff overally. Greeks are "tall" because they tryharded to be tall by obsessively naturally selecting. Voutsas and all the cast from "Ton Arapo kai An Ton Pleneis" were shortstuffs.

[The Great Uniter]

LOL, so you want to tell me that Greeks and Meds are tall are you dumb? :D

Do those people seem tall for their era?


https://youtu.be/fylZpLGi0ww
Not really.

[RenaRyuguu]

idk but here are some greeks of Zakynthos

https://farm1.static.flickr.com/290/19055274990_8f7acf6be9_b.jpg

all blonde

[TheMaestro]

Do those people seem tall for their era?


https://youtu.be/fylZpLGi0ww
Not really.

Ofcourse Greeks are not tall as a bunch thats why its funny seeing those retards claiming something else, personally I love Greeks and their music, but I just dont like when someone claims something thats not true...

[The Great Uniter]

idk but here are some greeks of Zakynthos

https://farm1.static.flickr.com/290/19055274990_8f7acf6be9_b.jpg

all blonde

Yes, but the frog behind is the classic frogvoiced frogfaced obnoxious twat.

[Dorian]

LOL, so you want to tell me that Greeks and Meds are tall are you dumb? :D

None said tall ,not giants ,not midgets..simply average ,when millenials become the oldest and when some nations raise their standard of living most will be around the same maybe only dutch and dinarics will increase even more but there's a maximum potential that will be reached by all.
https://cdn0.kontraband.com/uploads/image/2019/2/27/preview_0e98b2af.jpeg

[The Great Uniter]

Ofcourse Greeks are not tall as a bunch thats why its funny seeing those retards claiming something else, personally I love Greeks and their music, but I just dont like when someone claims something thats not true...

Genetically via natural selection Hungarians can surpass them in height easily but European have been spoonfeeding and sucking the dicks of Greeks for decades now instead of Hungarians who are ironically in fact actually closer to W. Europeans.

[The Great Uniter]

None said tall ,not giants ,not midgets..simply average ,when millenials become the oldest and when some nations raise their standard of living most will be around the same maybe only dutch and dinarics will increase even more but there's a maximum potential that will be reached by all.
https://cdn0.kontraband.com/uploads/image/2019/2/27/preview_0e98b2af.jpeg

How come Italians and Spanish are midgets? They have the same genes and aren't butthurt tryharders to strain themselves to be forcefully tall and tyrranize themselves to be tall. They accept themselves. Greeks didn't and started being more spoonfeeded by their moms and W. Europeans.

[Dorian]

How come Italians and Spanish are midgets?

No idea

[TheMaestro]

None said tall ,not giants ,not midgets..simply average ,when millenials become the oldest and when some nations raise their standard of living most will be around the same maybe only dutch and dinarics will increase even more but there's a maximum potential that will be reached by all.



Meds are not known for being tall.



Your opinion. They definitely are especially in Greece.

Do you have ADHD or you have just simple retardation? We are talking about being tall, and the first sentence you spit is


None said tall

I guess TA produces some rare exemplars of ignorants.

[Dorian]

Do you have ADHD or you have just simple retardation? We are talking about being tall, and the first sentence you spit is



I guess TA produces some rare exemplars of ignorants.

I'm answering for myself... not for all Greek members right?

[TheMaestro]

Genetically via natural selection Hungarians can surpass them in height easily but European have been spoonfeeding and sucking the dicks of Greeks for decades now instead of Hungarians who are ironically in fact actually closer to W. Europeans.

Hungarians as a whole arent that tall either, Dutch + Scandiavians and southern Slavs are known to be tall, the rest are just average or short nations.

[The Great Uniter]

No idea

You tyrranized yourselves to be tall and moms tyrranized their Greek children to be tall and butthurted for this. Italians just don't care, they are gangsters. I don't want to be insulting.

[The Great Uniter]

Hungarians as a whole arent that tall either, Dutch + Scandiavians and southern Slavs are known to be tall, the rest are just average or short nations.

Because they didn't care for it, they can genetically achieve greater height than Greeks by margin.

[TheMaestro]

Because they didn't care for it, they can genetically achieve greater height than Greeks by margin.

Why are you even mentioning Hungary dude, we were talking about meds and tall people, Hungarians are neither tall or meds as a whole.

[The Great Uniter]

Why are you even mentioning Hungary dude, we were talking about meds and tall people, Hungarians are neither tall or meds as a whole.

They are in for the argument. It's weird that Greeks are tall for Mediterraneans. It must be SSA genes.

[Dorian]

Hungarians as a whole arent that tall either, Dutch + Scandiavians and southern Slavs are known to be tall, the rest are just average or short nations.

They are average as well ,you will just see more tall ones there and the primitive part of your brain will translate it as "diz ppl tall"

[The Great Uniter]

They are average as well ,you will just see more tall ones there and the primitive part of your brain will translate it as "diz ppl tall"

Greeks have Dinarid via Armãnj, case closed. They must not be that tall otherwise. Albos and FYROMians are midget because they actually mainly Alpinids and Mediterranids. Either that or you have some SSA genes. Or Ethiopian.

[Dorian]

Greeks have Dinarid via Armãnj, case closed. They must not be that tall otherwise.

I said already med is generic ,from what I remember only "gracile med" is known to be shorter.Then you have atlantomeds and its eastern version Pontids.
Some mycenaean "royal" samples were tall for their time(and they'd be better fed than your average person)+and approaching modern average ones.

[The Great Uniter]

I said already med is generic ,from what I remember only "gracile med" is known to be shorter.Then you have atlantomeds and its eastern version Pontids.
Some mycenaean "royal" samples were tall for their time(and they'd be better fed than your average person)+and approaching modern average ones.

Unlikely that Italy scores that much Gracile Mediterranean more than Greece. It scores also Borreby, Alpinid (that is of average height), Syrid, Atlanto-Med, Atlantid and taller phenotypes, so how come Greeks are taller? The answer is either higher SSA or Dinaric DNA.

It also seems Modern Greek women reject Gracile Meds, Syrids and Alpinids thinking they are "above the pleb-circle" they are arrogant, neurotically autistic, they don't give up, and are incredibly immature and negatively so like an overspoiled brat kiddo who has autism. there are very young people here who display a higher level of maturity.

[TheMaestro]

They are average as well ,you will just see more tall ones there and the primitive part of your brain will translate it as "diz ppl tall"

They are average so yeah, so tell me why the fuck are you even quoting me when I said Greek are not tall? I dont understand the logic, total facepalm.

[TheMaestro]

Greeks have Dinarid via Armãnj, case closed. They must not be that tall otherwise. Albos and FYROMians are midget because they actually mainly Alpinids and Mediterranids. Either that or you have some SSA genes. Or Ethiopian.

Albanians are pretty diverse in terms of height, you have northern Albanians/Montenegrin Albanians/ Kosovo Albanians which are pretty tall and then you have central/Coastal/MKD Albanians which are short to average.

[Dorian]

They are average so yeah, so tell me why the fuck are you even quoting me when I said Greek are not tall? I dont understand the logic, total facepalm.

Cause you came with the attitude "them meds midgets" but anyways...

[Dorian]

Unlikely that Italy scores that much Gracile Mediterranean more than Greece. It scores also Borreby, Alpinid (that is of average height), Syrid, Atlanto-Med, Atlantid and taller phenotypes, so how come Greeks are taller? The answer is either higher SSA or Dinaric DNA.

Man SSAs aren't known for being tall ,only some isolated tribes...Probably the ratio of South vs North Italy is bigger compared to Mainlanders vs whatever area has gracile meds or something but I'm not sure If it even matters.
All Europeans are the mixture of the same components/populations in different percentages but the responsible genes for height don't care about autosomal they have been introduced to all and that's why a maximum limit will be reached with most being around the same average ,cases like Dutch&Dinarics are exceptions and that's why they are being studied seperately.

[The Great Uniter]

Man SSAs aren't known for being tall ,only some isolated tribes...Probably the ratio of South vs North Italy is bigger compared to Mainlanders vs whatever area has gracile meds or something but I'm not sure If it even matters.
All Europeans are the mixture of the same components/populations in different percentages but the responsible genes for height don't care about autosomal they have been introduced to all and that's why a maximum limit will be reached with most being around the same average ,cases like Dutch&Dinarics are exceptions and that's why they are being studied seperately.

I would like to talk you in person about this hahahaha

[Dorian]

I would like to talk you in person about this hahahaha

DC

[The Great Uniter]

DC

DC?

[Daos777]

I am the tallest in this thread and I am E-V13.

/thread


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[catgeorge]

Do you have ADHD or you have just simple retardation? We are talking about being tall, and the first sentence you spit is



I guess TA produces some rare exemplars of ignorants.

Get the fuck out of here you fucking little twat you're going to tell us what we are in the face of science

[catgeorge]

idk but here are some greeks of Zakynthos

https://farm1.static.flickr.com/290/19055274990_8f7acf6be9_b.jpg

all blonde

I know what Greek blondes look like and they're not Greek at all.

[Mingle]

LOL, so you want to tell me that Greeks and Meds are tall are you dumb? :D

Southwest Euros aren't tall, they're the shortest people in Europe. But Southwest Euros don't represent all Meds.

[Ylla]

He looks Iberian

[TheMaestro]

Southwest Euros aren't tall, they're the shortest people in Europe. But Southwest Euros don't represent all Meds.

?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????

[TheMaestro]

Get the fuck out of here you fucking little twat you're going to tell us what we are in the face of science

Oh so badass infront of your pc fam, yes because greeks are not tall as average you dumb American kid. And you basically contradict your statement you retard.

[Hashoeva]

I don't know but he really gives me a very middle eastern vibe. I think he can pass in many countries of MENA.

[Zeno]

Meds are not known for being tall.

You forgot the Atlanto-Meds, don't you m8?

[Zeno]

Oh so badass infront of your pc fam, yes because greeks are not tall as average you dumb American kid. And you basically contradict your statement you retard.

The average American is 175cm tall. Greeks are 1,81-1,82 cm tall.

[Benyzero]

I am the tallest in this thread and I am E-V13.

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how tall are you ? :D

[Daos777]

how tall are you ? :D

Lol I’m only 6’4 I was just joking.


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[TheMaestro]

The average American is 175cm tall. Greeks are 1,81-1,82 cm tall.

Average American is mongrel, Greeks as a whole arent tall, stop with this bullshit agenda. And average Greek height is 1.77m by stats...

[Benyzero]

Lol I’m only 6’4 I was just joking.


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well, still impressive, also im exactly 6.4 :D

[Zeno]

You don't need such argument ,one could say that the selectivity of the sport "gathers" the tallest minority, you don't need it..besides people from dinaric alps,dutch or traditionally short nations( where you can say there are some good genetic reasons )..the rest will reach a balance when millenials become the oldest group since previous generations of war ,famines etc decrease the average and our own 1,77-78 is already fine.

We are 1,81-1,82cm tall on average.

[Zeno]

Average American is mongrel, Greeks as a whole arent tall, stop with this bullshit agenda. And average Greek height is 1.77m by stats...

What stats? These ones? These show we're 182,5 cm tall. And women are at 169 cm. Which is precise considering my day to day life as a Greek.

And this is for 16-year olds. And I shall inform you here. Almost ayone below 55 is 1,79-1,84m on average. And in my school, from which I graduated this June, there were 50 folks that were over 1,90m. So, I don't think we're "short".

[Dorian]

Can you tards create another thread for countries heights?or I'll ask for the thread to be closed...

[Voskos]

We are 1,81-1,82cm tall on average.

Both nilotic E-V13 Ghegs and I2a/R1a slavics brought height increases. The result being quite a tall average.

[Zeno]

Both nilotic E-V13 Ghegs and I2a/R1a slavics brought height increases. The result being quite a tall average.

You're legit trolling now, don't you?:rofl:

[Voskos]

You're legit trolling now, don't you?:rofl:

Think about, for example Dinaric people like Croats and Albos are the result of E-V13 illyrian nilotids mixing with I2a slavs and they ended up being the tallest in the world.

[Daos777]

Think about, for example Dinaric people like Croats and Albos are the result of E-V13 illyrian nilotids mixing with I2a slavs and they ended up being the tallest in the world.

E-V13 in Europe and E North Africa has 0 to do with Nilotids. North African hunter gatherers bearing parent clades to E-V13 resembled caucasoid cro-magnons more than anything else. Look up Afalou man.


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[Voskos]

E-V13 in Europe and E North Africa has 0 to do with Nilotids. North African hunter gatherers bearing parent clades to E-V13 resembled caucasoid cro-magnons more than anything else. Look up Afalou man.


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north africans themselves can be quite talls.

[Zeno]

Think about, for example Dinaric people like Croats and Albos are the result of E-V13 illyrian nilotids mixing with I2a slavs and they ended up being the tallest in the world.

But it has nothing to do with Greece. And E-V13 is an almost entirely European haplogroup. Met in small quantities outside of Europe by itself.

[Voskos]

But it has nothing to do with Greece. And E-V13 is an almost entirely European haplogroup. Met in small quantities outside of Europe by itself.

What do you mean by that? Greek regions with high E-V13/I2 total like Thessaly or Macedonia are very tall compared to the rest.

[Zeno]

What do you mean by that? Greek regions with high E-V13/I2 total like Thessaly or Macedonia are very tall compared to the rest.

Yes, but E-V13 is at its highest at Greece itself. And nothing to do with South Slavic influences.

[TheMaestro]

What stats? These ones? These show we're 182,5 cm tall. And women are at 169 cm. Which is precise considering my day to day life as a Greek.

And this is for 16-year olds. And I shall inform you here. Almost ayone below 55 is 1,79-1,84m on average. And in my school, from which I graduated this June, there were 50 folks that were over 1,90m. So, I don't think we're "short".

Yes you guys are tall nation, no need to waste my time with autists anymore, you can check previous comments dumbass.

[KingOf]

From my eyes under 40 year old Greek men could be 1.80 average... country total no way.
Over 60 year olds could average 1.72 at best... and we have many old people living here.

[blueeyes]

Yes you guys are tall nation, no need to waste my time with autists anymore, you can check previous comments dumbass.

Being taller doesn’t make you better . Greek guys are far better looking than Slavic guys.

[Dorian]

To put an end to the heightardism

From March 2014 to May 2014, a total of 473,837 boys and girls aged 4 to 18 years who attended school in Greece were enrolled. The studied sample was representative, in terms of age-sex distribution and geographical region.

Standard deviation&percentiles-Do your calculations ,don't bust balls..
https://i.postimg.cc/tTcyx1Jr/a.png

[Mingle]

?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????

You said Meds are short. I said that may only apply to Meds from West Europe (Spain, Italy) not to Meds as a whole.

[Daos777]

Being taller doesn’t make you better . Greek guys are far better looking than Slavic guys.

Omg. We might as well bring in dick size into this debate.

Can we get back on topic with original E-V13 look? What the fuck did these guys look like?


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[TheMaestro]

Being taller doesn’t make you better . Greek guys are far better looking than Slavic guys.

Okay and? Am I claiming someone is handsome or better? Are you retarted also?

[TheMaestro]

Omg. We might as well bring in dick size into this debate.

Can we get back on topic with original E-V13 look? What the fuck did these guys look like?


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I said meds and greeks are not tall as a whole, and those people keep claiming I said they are not handsome, that I call them midgets and make up other stories, bunch of autists on this forum.

[TheMaestro]

You said Meds are short. I said that may only apply to Meds from West Europe (Spain, Italy) not to Meds as a whole.

Can I see where I said meds are short? Can you quote me? I said true meds are not known to be tall and thats true... So tell me retard, you guys are different level of autism.

[Zeno]

Ok, now that I've seen this thread again, the non-Greek members are retarded for saying Greeks aren't tall.
There's the Atlanto-Med pheno, where the height is on average 1,78-1,95.
There's also the Pontids.
And we're 1,81 on average. 16 year olds in Greece are 182,5 cm tall on average, same for all under 55 years old.

[Tauromachos]

The Zinedine Zidane of Greece