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I am sure that Serbs from Bosanska Krajina is closer to your ćaća than Italians and Hungarians.
What a fuch I2-PH908 in southern Italy? I never heard for existence of that clade in southern Italy.
He has match from Calabria. Source: almost surely Molisse Croats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molise_Croats
Insuperable
12-13-2019, 09:00 PM
Dude, they are whiter than Gyposoid Serbs. Anthro research matters. I recently posted Serbs from east Bosnia (so called Aryan part of Bosnia) and they look like damn Greeks.
Western Serbia the infamous Aryan Serbian spot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5XUTsrmPOM
Unrepresentative. I get Slovenia on K36 because Croatia is too southern. I don't want Serb giving Croatian kits to Lukas, they have agenda to make us a s close as possible.
On K36 Bosnia plot more south than Serbia too :laugh:
Maybe they are not unrepresentative. Who gives a shit what they want.
Never denied this, in fact, this is what i have been saying all along, a little bit of 'austro-hungarian'/slovenian like mixture on a serbian basis and a catholic identity is what the modern croats are.
Why are Serbs such Gypsies?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-xGdhfA3sg
This are not Croats.
Pribislav
12-13-2019, 09:02 PM
Why are Serbs such Gypsies?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-xGdhfA3sg
This are not Croats.
You trolling. It's well known that in Guča festivale perticipate many ethnic Gypsies.
ProudBrit
12-13-2019, 09:03 PM
Because it was obligatory to do, same here. Now we have professional army, where Hrvoje will serve.
Hrvoje?Is he that guy who after finding out he's part german he started larping as a nazi and eventually he became so obsessed with german ww2 soldiers that he quit being a dentist to start training as a fighter pilot?LMFAO I can't imagine that guy even take a candy from an austistic blind handless child
You trolling. It's well known that in Guča festivale perticipate many ethnic Gypsies.
I see Serb nationalists with Četnik Šajkače caps. This music sounds so Gypsy.
Pribislav
12-13-2019, 09:04 PM
He has match from Calabria. Source: almost surely Molisse Croats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molise_Croats
You think Moliese Serbs brainwashed in 19th century by Croatian agents.
Hrvoje?Is he that guy who after finding out he's part german he started larping as a nazi and eventually he became so obsessed with german ww2 soldiers that he quit being a dentist to start training as a fighter pilot?LMFAO I can't imagine that guy even take a candy from an austistic blind handless child
He is cool :D
Btw, he claims Slovenes are Zagorje Croats in denial.
You think Moliese Serbs brainwashed in 19th century by Croatian agents.
:laugh: xD
I can't accept Serbs as relatives until they get rid of Gypsy and Middle Eastern cultural influence. Croats don't like this.
Pribislav
12-13-2019, 09:07 PM
:laugh: xD
Burgenland Croatians are partly of Serbian and Vlach origin.
Burgenland Croatians are partly of Serbian and Vlach origin.
Finnish Swedes too xD
Daos777
12-13-2019, 09:10 PM
I can't accept Serbs as relatives until they get rid of Gypsy and Middle Eastern cultural influence. Croats don't like this.
Gyspies and Turks stole that culture from the Serbs. This is Illyrian music Turbofolk and all that shit you say is Gypsy or Turkish. Croats are just boring German autist wannabe with no culture like them.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg
Gyspies and Turks stole that culture from the Serbs. This is Illyrian music Turbofolk and all that shit you say it Gypsy or Turkish. Croats are just boring German autist wannabe with no culture like them.
That's sad legacy of Ottoman occupation of Balkans, and such culture should be returned where it belongs, to Asia.
Pribislav
12-13-2019, 09:11 PM
Finnish Swedes too xD
Few Serbs has a matches in y dna with Burgenland Croatia.
For axample Serb with surname Odobašić, and B. Croatian with surname Cvitković (they are I2-PH908).
Daos777
12-13-2019, 09:13 PM
That's sad legacy of Ottoman occupation of Balkans, and such culture should be returned where it belongs, to Asia.
But it doesn’t belong there it belongs in the Balkans because Turks stole it from the Balkans, and you belong in Germany with short fat small dick husband who eats pretzel and drinks beer and thinks this is the most complex food that human being can ever think of.
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Few Serbs has a matches in y dna with Burgenland Croatia.
For axample Serb with surname Odobašić, and B. Croatian with surname Cvitković (they are I2-PH908).
Who cares? Those Serbs are assimilated Croats like Voight family.
But it doesn’t belong there it belongs in the Balkans because Turks stole it from the Balkans, and you belong in Germany with short fat small dick husband who eats pretzel and drinks beer and thinks this is the most complex food that human being can ever think of.
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My man is much taller, thinner and has bigger .... than you do. Deal with it.
Pribislav
12-13-2019, 09:14 PM
Who cares? Those Serbs are assimilated Croats like Voight family.
Wrong.
Serb Odobašić is from Slavonski Brod btw.
Wrong.
Serb Odobašić is from Slavonski Brod btw.
Don't be so complexed, it's okay.
Daos777
12-13-2019, 09:15 PM
My man is much taller, thinner and has bigger .... than you do. Deal with it.
Lmao if you chop my dick in half it still weighs more than your man.
And your man isn’t 193 cm good try
Lmao if you chop my dick in half it still weighs more than your man.
And your man isn’t 193 cm good try
Correct, he is 195.
Deal with facts.
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--dhkBOWJh--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/17spinty271mdjpg.jpg
Daos777
12-13-2019, 09:17 PM
Correct, he is 195.
Deal with facts.
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--dhkBOWJh--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/17spinty271mdjpg.jpg
Lmao you’re going to use a country average? I promise you my Kelbasa is 5 times fatter than little Stears but anyways... go back to Germany
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Impaler
12-13-2019, 09:17 PM
Also Goran Bregović who is half Croat and half Serb sings Gypsy traditional music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqOL7LOR6ko
pelikarski
12-13-2019, 09:18 PM
My man is much taller, thinner and has bigger .... than you do. Deal with it.
You are talking to the most DOM alpha TA Man, even me with my 195 cm and 110 kilos look manlet next to him
Lmao you’re going to use a country average? I promise you my Kelbasa is 5 times fatter than little Stears but anyways... go back to Germany
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Wrong.
You are talking to the most DOM alpha TA Man, even me with my 195 cm and 110 kilos look manlet next to him
Who, Daos?
Also Goran Bregović who is half Croat and half Serb sings Gypsy traditional music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqOL7LOR6ko
Thing is Guća isn't considered festival of Gypsy music, but of Serbian traditional music which is often played by Gypsies, but it's Serbian.
Daos777
12-13-2019, 09:19 PM
You are talking to the most DOM alpha TA Man, even me with my 195 cm and 110 kilos look manlet next to him
I’m not the alpha TA dom that’s cumansky, and I’m actually approaching 135 kg lol. But I gained a good amount of fat I admit it. I’m trying to be heaviest TA member ever 150 kg by 2022
Bodybuilders often have small penis.
Insuperable
12-13-2019, 09:23 PM
Bodybuilders often have small penis.
That is myth propagated by beta weaklings.
Pribislav
12-13-2019, 09:24 PM
Don't be so complexed, it's okay.
Burgenland Croatian Dobrowits/Dobrović (number 579 on tabele) and Croatian Đedović from Brčko (number 585) have a matches in y dna with Serbs from Montenegro, Kosovo, Herzegovina, Kordun, western Serbia, Kosovo, Bosnia, Lika, Šumadija, Župa (central Serbia), Raška as you can see on tabele.
https://lundiak.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/i2-dn_aka_dinaric_south_ph908.png
Daos777
12-13-2019, 09:24 PM
That is myth propagated by beta weaklings.
It’s not connected whatsoever. Penis size is completely unrelated to body size and is controlled by different genes. If anything id say your shoulder to waist ratio is a better indication
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Deniz
12-13-2019, 09:26 PM
That's sad legacy of Ottoman occupation of Balkans, and such culture should be returned where it belongs, to Asia.
Ohhhhhh!Give back my listovi kupusa sarma.I m cross with you.No shashlık and cevapcici for you again.
Pribislav
12-13-2019, 09:27 PM
Burgenland Croatian Dobrowits/Dobrović (number 579 on tabele) and Croatian Đedović from Brčko (number 585) have a matches in y dna with Serbs from Montenegro, Kosovo, Herzegovina, Kordun, western Serbia, Kosovo, Bosnia, Lika, Šumadija, Župa (central Serbia), Raška as you can see on tabele.
https://lundiak.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/i2-dn_aka_dinaric_south_ph908.png
And Croatian Križić as well (number 577 on tabele).
Daos777
12-13-2019, 09:28 PM
Ohhhhhh!Give back my listovi kupusa sarma.I m cross with you.No shashlık and cevapcici for you again.
Lol she’s dumb af. She thinks foods and music that have origin in Balkans and Turks heavily borrowed from and spread throughout the Middle East somehow belongs in Asia. She is boring German woman with autism like the rest
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Benyzero
12-13-2019, 09:28 PM
I’m not the alpha TA dom that’s cumansky, and I’m actually approaching 135 kg lol. But I gained a good amount of fat I admit it. I’m trying to be heaviest TA member ever 150 kg by 2022
There is that Icelandic or Irish guy whos posting from time to time, I don't know where he is from exactly but is also tall and lately gained a huge beer belly, now I think he is a good competition. :D Iam only tall and somewhat muscular but I don't have big body mass.
Daos777
12-13-2019, 09:32 PM
There is that Icelandic or Irish guy whos posting from time to time, I don't know where he is from exactly but is also tall and lately gained a huge beer belly, now I think he is a good competition. :D Iam only tall and somewhat muscular but I don't have big body mass.
You need to bulk with us to 175 kg by 2023. We will mog all of TA.
Ohhhhhh!Give back my listovi kupusa sarma.I m cross with you.No shashlık and cevapcici for you again.
I like čevapčići and burek :p
Lol she’s dumb af. She thinks foods and music that have origin in Balkans and Turks heavily borrowed from and spread throughout the Middle East somehow belongs in Asia. She is boring German woman with autism like the rest
Turk-Gypsy.
Insuperable
12-13-2019, 09:43 PM
It’s not connected whatsoever. Penis size is completely unrelated to body size and is controlled by different genes. If anything id say your shoulder to waist ratio is a better indication
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Could be. I think it is mostly determined during puberty. Genetics too of course. If you are not physically active during puberty, eat shit/candy or are under bad kind of stress during important periods of development chances are your testosterone won't be as high as it could have been. It's lottery. That is just my opinion.
Daos777
12-13-2019, 09:52 PM
Turk-Gypsy.
https://youtu.be/PZeDFwTcnCc
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Pribislav
12-13-2019, 09:58 PM
Burgenland Croatian Dobrowits/Dobrović (number 579 on tabele) and Croatian Đedović from Brčko (number 585) have a matches in y dna with Serbs from Montenegro, Kosovo, Herzegovina, Kordun, western Serbia, Kosovo, Bosnia, Lika, Šumadija, Župa (central Serbia), Raška as you can see on tabele.
https://lundiak.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/i2-dn_aka_dinaric_south_ph908.png
There is on comment from Feiichy on this, as I expected...
Serb pop culture, does it sound European to you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbS5CAQYO78
That is pvre celto-illyrian musicianship
The Celts were in Anatolia as well
The reason middle-east has similar sound is because they were influenced by the hittites, who were influenced by the celto-proto-slavs (i.e. inheritors of the Vinca civilization)
There is on comment from Feiichy on this, as I expected...
Who care?
Pribislav
12-13-2019, 10:09 PM
Who care?
You for sure.
Burgenland Croatian, Bosnian Croatian and Croatian from Croatia have many matches with Serbs from various regions of former Yugoslavia including "Vlacho-Bulgaroid Pontid" Serbia. There is a tons of that, I singled out only 3 examples.
You wanna escape from Serbs, but it's imposible. Serbs are in you.
You for sure.
Burgenland Croatian, Bosnian Croatian and Croatian from Croatia have many matches with Serbs from various regions of former Yugoslavia including "Vlacho-Bulgaroid Pontid" Serbia. There is tons of that, I singled out only 3 examples.
You wanna escape from Serbs, but it's imposible. Serbs are in you.
Because you are our mongrels, converts, and Serbia was colonised from west many times.
There are no better representatives of pre-Ottoman Croatian population than Burgerland Croats (those unmixed with Germans).
Insuperable
12-13-2019, 10:12 PM
Because you are our mongrels, converts, and Serbia was colonised from west many times.
There are no better representatives of pre-Ottoman Croatian population than Burgerland Croats (those unmixed with Germans).
There are no such Burgenland Croats.
There are no such Burgenland Croats.
Speaking about ydna. PH908 is surely not from Germans.
My man is much taller, thinner and has bigger .... than you do. Deal with it.
That's because he got it from his HungAryan father
Meanwhile gerManics can only cope
Pribislav
12-13-2019, 10:20 PM
Because you are our mongrels, converts, and Serbia was colonised from west many times.
There are no better representatives of pre-Ottoman Croatian population than Burgerland Croats (those unmixed with Germans).
Western Serbia and part of central Serbia were colonized by Dinaric Serbs in 18th and 19th century, not by Croatians.
Here is visible that Croatian Bojić from Trogir (number 461) and Croatian Mošić from Brač (number 464) are close to Serbs from various region including southern and eastern Serbia. Same goes from Muslim Karadžić from Tuzla (459).
https://lundiak.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/i2-dn_aka_dinaric_north.png
Renekton
12-13-2019, 11:38 PM
Wtf is going on here
Turul Karom
12-13-2019, 11:42 PM
I leave for a few hours and this gets to page 57?
Lots of reading to catch up on.
Ambient music for the task.......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WOfxITiEAs
oszkar07
12-13-2019, 11:43 PM
No.
And medieval Italian, French, German and Dutch merchants settling in towns of Kingdom of Hungary is well known fact. West Asian is west Asian, Italian is Italian.
And all Hungarians score it.
True,
I sometimes wonder if my many way back great Grandfathers may have been such a merchant ...i consider this due to my Y Haplogroup ... IM223, but this person also could have been in Hungary very long time ago.
Turul Karom
12-14-2019, 12:30 AM
Turkic nations are turkic because they are turkic speakers, unlike hungarians that's why they are not turkic and have never been turkic. I ask you again: can you prove that there was no "megyer" tribe before Etelköz as you claimed? Give sources until it your fantasy is just blah blah.
I never said that there was no megyer tribe before then. I asked you to NAME the other tribes. Source me where I said there was no megyer tribe before Etelköz.
You don't want to name the other tribes because you know that their name origins are Turkic.
He has turkic name and? You cherrypicked this guy and this 10-15% elite to describe a complete population.
Oldest known ancestors of Hungarians. You cannot address him because it is not convenient to you anti-Turkic narrative.
You are a fucking lunatic liar, you called me nordicist, Stears, white supremacist many times that's fact and you deny it, just like when you posted turks as "hungarians" to prove hungarians and turks are similar and are all turanist, i debunked you woth google search you fucking liar.
Source it. Source where I called you all these things just like above, and just like how I am able to source you.
This crown was not created by hungarians
Irrelevant because I am talking about what was said on the crown.
Old magyars migrated to Carpathian Basin because of Khazar opression and they wanted to be free.
You didn't answer any of my questions. Answer them or admit that you can't.
It was a military alliance and there is no proof it was oppression. If the Hungarians hated these Turkic "oppressors", why would they be allowed to join as the Kabars at all, and why were the minority elites who were Turkic not killed in vengeance once we were "free"? You're making it up for your narrative.
You are lying again he is not my friend, and this is true that hungarians are uralic speaker slavs and germans. Like it or not that's fact.
LMAO YES.
YES!
This happens so often on TA, that I could see the patterns of it developing in you for months!
Does it feel good? Does it feel good to finally admit that you think we as a people don't exist? Does it feel liberating to allow your opinions on us Hungarians to be known, so you don't need to hide your disdain anymore? Does it feel righteous that you can look down on us little Hungarians and justify that we are not a real people with a continued legacy?
This happens every time there is a poster who is fanatical in their attempt to divorce Hungarians from their roots, let alone our Turkicness.
They do not believe we even exist.
That is why you must marginalize every genetic and cultural aspect of our roots. Now all can see, your true ideas about us and how we as a people are merely "brainwashed" central Europeans. Your line of logic would see us divided into oblivion, and you would be happily indifferent because we are just "Germans and Slavs".
Hungary will never be dissolved and we will persist, despite people like you.
Blondie
12-14-2019, 01:13 AM
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Turul Karom
12-14-2019, 02:06 AM
del
It doesnt matter. It was already read by me. You can keep trying to hide or misrepresent people but your mask has slipped too many times. There was never any need for your bad faith or hatred. I don't hold such disdain for you or Germans.
From what it has been shown here: Szekelys are genuinely kindhearted people and extremely Romanian.
No ethnicity has a monopoly on kindheartedness, especially not a contrived ethnicity like Romania
If Szekelys are kindhearted then it is through their own ethnogenesis and effort
Turul Karom
12-14-2019, 03:00 AM
I have wondered about that also eg ... how can I score 4:13 /4:51 Turkic ... but get hardly any Asian components.
But in k13 i get 2.29 Siberian and some other gedmatch calcs show some reasonable Siberian amounts too ... not sure how to explain it especially tha im only half Hungarian .
Strong genetics. They are universally consistently Euasian to some degree or another. Don't be goaded into the "we don't exist" lies.
Turul Karom
12-14-2019, 06:51 AM
You misinterpret my posts, I guess. My whole point was to say how among Hungarian nationalists (who are in minority) exists very different groups.
Compare Turul, Blogen and Stears, all 3 nationalists and nothing in common apart from that.
I hold Stears and Blogen as Hungarians and as brothers. We are more alike than we are different when it comes to the other side of the spectrum and I could assure that we would all be opposed to the EU or Hungary being a part of another Empire.
He's also pro-Turkic although he's not a big fan of Turkey. He has a picture of a Kazakh man on his profile. I also remember him defending Azerbaijan to the bone in a debate about Karabakh/Artsakh. He seems like a Turanist but a less extreme version of Turul.
If you think that I am extreme, you're wrong. I'm actually rather mainline with a lot of what I say in Hungary. As you know, even the current government pursues Turkic relationships far deeper than economic reasons. TA is obviously going to be western shifted in mentality amongst Hungarians. Blogen is also a good person but he and I do not speak much.
SharpFork
12-14-2019, 07:53 AM
Strong genetics. They are universally consistently Euasian to some degree or another. Don't be goaded into the "we don't exist" lies.
What does "strong genetics" mean? Can you explain us exactly how genetically Turkic modern Hungarians actually are and according to what metric or method you find it out? Because I don't get the lack of East Eurasian componenet that ALL Turkic and even Iron Age eastern Iranic groups had.
Turul Karom
12-14-2019, 08:50 AM
What does "strong genetics" mean? Can you explain us exactly how genetically Turkic modern Hungarians actually are and according to what metric or method you find it out? Because I don't get the lack of East Eurasian componenet that ALL Turkic and even Iron Age eastern Iranic groups had.
It means just how it reads. It means that regardless of the calculators, his genetics read out consistently with Eurasian results larger than the population around them. You can even as oszkar about his other results. Stears gets more Turkic than some Anatolian Turkish, as do I. Every Hungarian is going to have different Turkic results based around 1, the consensus of what populations to use to represent Turkic and 2, the calculators used. Apparently, nearly all of the Hungarian users here surpass the "Hungarian averages" for calculators.
SharpFork
12-14-2019, 06:34 PM
It means just how it reads. It means that regardless of the calculators, his genetics read out consistently with Eurasian results larger than the population around them. You can even as oszkar about his other results. Stears gets more Turkic than some Anatolian Turkish, as do I. Every Hungarian is going to have different Turkic results based around 1, the consensus of what populations to use to represent Turkic and 2, the calculators used. Apparently, nearly all of the Hungarian users here surpass the "Hungarian averages" for calculators.
So how does that follow that the Magyar are, right now, a Turkic people? Plus 5%(which is what I understood as being the max score more or less) is not a lot, imagine if French or Spanish people went around claiming they were Germanic or Germans and and Dutch went around claiming they were Celts.
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