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Lucas
09-04-2019, 09:13 PM
I've just found autosomal match on FTDNA (60cM, longest 8cM) with Slovak man T. Macuga.
This surname is popular practically only in Slovakia and Poland. And now I have proof it is one line.
Map for Poland. My father line is from central Poland red coloured region (Sieradz) but it is now certain the homeland is in Carpathian mountains on the very south. Only question if from Slovak or Polish Carpathian part.

https://i.imgur.com/SPSm05v.png

Peterski
09-04-2019, 10:33 PM
Does he even have the same Y-DNA haplogroup as you, though? :confused:

And do you detect any percent of Slovak admixture in your DNA?

Because autosomally you plot near Kostroma according to ph2ter:

https://i.postimg.cc/6QH4582Z/G25all.png

CommonSense
09-04-2019, 10:41 PM
I've just found autosomal match on FTDNA (60cM, longest 8cM) with Slovak man T. Macuga.


Is that enough to be considered a "legit" match? My highest match on FTDNA is 83 cM (longest segment, 17) while on MyHeritage i only share 32 cM with that man, even though the longest segment remains the same. It appears kind of inconclusive.

Lucas
09-04-2019, 10:53 PM
Is that enough to be considered a "legit" match? My highest match on FTDNA is 83 cM (longest segment, 17) while on MyHeritage i only share 32 cM with that man, even though the longest segment remains the same. It appears kind of inconclusive.

But having the same rare surname is good indicator. If my surname would be Kowalski I won't even bother.

Lucas
09-04-2019, 10:58 PM
Does he even have the same Y-DNA haplogroup as you, though? :confused:

And do you detect any percent of Slovak admixture in your DNA?

Because autosomally you plot near Kostroma according to ph2ter:

https://i.postimg.cc/6QH4582Z/G25all.png

West Balkan users (Dink which is Dick, Prosigoj, Bosniensis) are between Moldavia and Crimea there. Their distance to west Balkans is comparable with mine to Belarus. Which is good fit for my autosomal profile. Certainly I don't have East Finnic admixtures anywhere, on G25 too. But very high Baltic. This tool isn't correct for every G25 coordinates. Or he forgot to use scaled / unscaled.

Bakha
09-04-2019, 11:01 PM
I sincerely apologize for the offtopic, but is a 40cm match with longest block of 11cm is a legit match? I don’t understand a thing at this

Dick
09-04-2019, 11:10 PM
West Balkan users (Dink which is Dick, Prosigoj, Bosniensis) are between Moldavia and Crimea there. Their distance to west Balkans is comparable with mine to Belarus. Which is good fit for my autosomal profile. Certainly I don't have East Finnic admixtures anywhere, on G25 too. But very high Baltic. This tool isn't correct for every G25 coordinates. Or he forgot to use scaled / unscaled.

dink2 is my livingdna raw data. Shows how inaccurate third party calcs can be.

Peterski
09-04-2019, 11:14 PM
West Balkan users (Dink which is Dick, Prosigoj, Bosniensis) are between Moldavia and Crimea there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Goths

Cumansky
09-04-2019, 11:15 PM
dink2 is my livingdna raw data. Shows how inaccurate third party calcs can be.

In AncestryDNA update you are almost same with me but they give you shift south and me shift north, look at that map. Is not showing exactly that? Ph2ter map same famous AncestryDNA is showing

PaleoEuropean
09-04-2019, 11:18 PM
Does he even have the same Y-DNA haplogroup as you, though? :confused:

And do you detect any percent of Slovak admixture in your DNA?

Because autosomally you plot near Kostroma according to ph2ter:

https://i.postimg.cc/6QH4582Z/G25all.png

I have noticed Gedmatch calculators are heavily influenced by haplogroups and their snps by what populations I match xD

Dick
09-04-2019, 11:23 PM
In AncestryDNA update you are almost same with me but they give you shift south and me shift north, look at that map. Is not showing exactly that? Ph2ter map same famous AncestryDNA is showing

Yes bro

Dick
09-04-2019, 11:57 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Goths

maybe


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Lucas
09-06-2019, 06:10 PM
Does he even have the same Y-DNA haplogroup as you, though? :confused:

And do you detect any percent of Slovak admixture in your DNA?

Because autosomally you plot near Kostroma according to ph2ter:

https://i.postimg.cc/6QH4582Z/G25all.png

According to new ph2ter run based on G25 for Slavic users I land near Belarus / Russian (Smolensk) border.
And it is you who had 10% Kostroma admixture... Ask ph2ter why.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?300077-South-Slavs-which-pre-Slavic-population-fits-best-your-genome-on-gedmatch&p=6222460&viewfull=1#post6222460