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Universe
09-06-2019, 10:16 AM
http://pctrs.network.hu/clubpicture/1/9/5/_/jolly_es_suzy-003_1095656_9408.jpg
https://nlc.p3k.hu/uploads/2018/06/jolly-%C3%A9s-suzy-kiemelt.jpg
http://ocdn.eu/images/pulscms/NTA7MDA_/912842f96c2b3984c771562579a6c956.jpg

Egyvalaki
09-06-2019, 10:20 AM
Are they really gipsies or just gipsy wannabes?

TheMaestro
09-06-2019, 10:24 AM
Both look white to me.

WeirdLookingFellow
09-06-2019, 10:24 AM
She does have a gypsy look somewhat, guy seems more like Dinarid-Pontid with some Alfold.

Universe
09-06-2019, 10:30 AM
http://cdn.nwmgroups.hu/s/img/i/1905/20190531suzy-es-jolly.jpg
https://ocdn.eu/pulscms-transforms/1/I7MktkpTURBXy9kMTUzYzliYzY5MDdiZmJjMDhmYzA1NzVhM2Y 2NWRhNC5qcGeSlQMAIM0CEc0BKZMFzQMgzQHC

Universe
09-06-2019, 10:31 AM
Are they really gipsies or just gipsy wannabes?

European looking gypsies exist. I've seen them with my own eyes in real life... They're probably more mixed with europeans/hungarians, that's why they look the way they do.

Jana
09-06-2019, 10:49 AM
Look like Balkanites.

Egyvalaki
09-06-2019, 10:52 AM
European looking gypsies exist. I've seen them with my own eyes in real life... They're probably more mixed with europeans/hungarians, that's why they look the way they do.

Ok. It was just a question. I was just curious about it.

Ford
09-06-2019, 10:53 AM
They look like low class white Americans. Or maybe Italian-Americans à la Jersey Shore to be more specific.

Jana
09-06-2019, 10:54 AM
Btw, the women has ''Vlach look'', this type is frequent in dinaric alps of western Balkans. In 1st photo man looks like Elvis.

Universe
09-06-2019, 10:54 AM
Ok. It was just a question. I was just curious about it.

I think they're really gypsies. Do you think they're just wannabes?

WeirdLookingFellow
09-06-2019, 10:59 AM
Btw, the women has ''Vlach look'', this type is frequent in dinaric alps of western Balkans. In 1st photo man looks like Elvis.

That's a Vlach look? Damn, put a colourful headscarf on her and some loopy earrings and she would be playing a gypsy in a soap opera. Maybe because she looks Dinaro-Carpathid?

Mortimer
09-06-2019, 11:00 AM
I think they're really gypsies. Do you think they're just wannabes?
If they got discriminated for their ancestry or culture they can't be wannabee if they are just hippies with no ancestry who are middle class white americans they are wannabes

Jana
09-06-2019, 11:01 AM
That's a Vlach look? Damn, put a colourful headscarf on her and some loopy earrings and she would be playing a gypsy in a soap opera. Maybe because she looks Dinaro-Carpathid?

In our region, strong dinaric look, especially on women = Vlach look.
maybe in your region vlach look has different conotations ?

For example Croatian user Celine has ''Vlach look'' (and she is central european)

Benyzero
09-06-2019, 11:12 AM
They play music gipsies play that is for sure, I assume they are mixed, the woman (called suzy) is obviously.

WeirdLookingFellow
09-06-2019, 11:18 AM
In our region, strong dinaric look, especially on women = Vlach look.
maybe in your region vlach look has different conotations ?

For example Croatian user Celine has ''Vlach look'' (and she is central european)

Here Carpathid is more common than Dinarid. Faces are not that long and people are not that tall. Dinarids can be found in South-Western Romania closer to the border with Serbia. The thing is that when we see a person with eyes like those and a very prominent nose it does remind us of gypsies. Celine does not have the eyes so she looks more Balkan.

My cousin 2nd removed full from North Moldova has similar eyes but not the nose. South Romanians are sometimes called more gypsy-like because more women have this nose+eyes combo. But I don't know maybe other Romanians have different feedback on this.

JosephK
09-06-2019, 06:33 PM
They look like low class white Americans. Or maybe Italian-Americans à la Jersey Shore to be more specific.

Since my wife did some genealogy research on my "Hungarian"-Gypsy family and found out some of them originally lived in New Jersey, she now thinks these New Jersey-types are secretly Gypsies...

Egyvalaki
09-06-2019, 08:03 PM
I think they're really gypsies. Do you think they're just wannabes?

I don't know them. I just saw them here and it was my first impression but i have no idea.

Universe
09-06-2019, 08:06 PM
I don't know them. I just saw them here and it was my first impression but i have no idea.
A férfi a jolly a videóban.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJGXgC-7jsQ

JosephK
09-06-2019, 08:13 PM
A férfi a jolly a videóban.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJGXgC-7jsQ

Hey, he's using lyrics from traditional Roma songs in this...

Oddly, he sounds like he has a Pakistani/Indian accent sometimes...

Egyvalaki
09-06-2019, 08:15 PM
A férfi a jolly a videóban.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJGXgC-7jsQ

Ó, ezt ismerem is :)
Btw he don't look obviouly gipsy in the video neither, but possibly he is. Without this "image" he could pass like an average hungarian person (paraszt :D).

Benyzero
09-06-2019, 08:49 PM
https://i.imgur.com/DTkBE1K.jpg

Tauromachos
09-06-2019, 11:34 PM
They do not look very Gypsy in particular the woman

Nurzat
09-07-2019, 05:38 AM
Look like Balkanites.

to me they look very Central Euro - she gives Germano-Slavic vibes (Czech/Hungarian) while he is more neutral, could pass both as Balkanite (especially Bulgarian) and as Slovak, he is a bit too robust for the rest of the Balkans.

however, I really cannot see anything Gypsy about their appearance. she's certainly "Whiter" than me (in terms of "less Oriental looking")

Egyvalaki
09-07-2019, 06:16 AM
I found Suzy's mom. She is definetly look part or full gipsy.

Mortimer
09-07-2019, 07:45 AM
Since my wife did some genealogy research on my "Hungarian"-Gypsy family and found out some of them originally lived in New Jersey, she now thinks these New Jersey-types are secretly Gypsies...

Snooki did a DNA test and they told her she is a gypsie she always thought she is Chilean I think she was a actress in jersey shore Google Snooki is a gypsie

chociprasa
09-07-2019, 07:48 AM
Dinarid + North Indid and Pontid + Indo-Brachid.

Universe
09-07-2019, 08:30 AM
to me they look very Central Euro - she gives Germano-Slavic vibes (Czech/Hungarian) while he is more neutral, could pass both as Balkanite (especially Bulgarian) and as Slovak, he is a bit too robust for the rest of the Balkans.

however, I really cannot see anything Gypsy about their appearance. she's certainly "Whiter" than me (in terms of "less Oriental looking")

This is her mother, obvious gypsy look:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9t2PCoD2Vm0/maxresdefault.jpg

Hungarian_master
12-21-2020, 03:08 PM
Jolly: North Indid+Dinarid.
Suzy: Norid+North Indid.

Steppe Timelord
12-21-2020, 03:11 PM
Dinarid + North Indid and Pontid + Indo-Brachid.

yes this one could be classified as pontid + minimal indobrachid, unlike the other guy: Joci papai. It's curious though how incorrect classifs get more upboats, I see it's mainly because of 'status' or bias, people like when they hear something they want to hear but dislike the truth.

Dunai
12-21-2020, 05:57 PM
Looool, just because they sing Mulatós, doesn't make them Roma. Many Hungarians sing Mulatós music. Her name is Királyvári Zsuzsanna, that surname is very Hungarian, and never encountered among local Romas. She is Hungarian, I mean look at these pics, when did you ever see a Hungarian Roma woman looking like this?

https://nlc.p3k.hu/uploads/2020/12/suzy-kiemelt-768x432.jpg

With her daughter
https://nlc.p3k.hu/uploads/2020/12/suzy2-768x432.jpg

Jolly or Tarcsi Zoltán, goes for that Latino lover look, and his tanned, but doesn't have Roma traces either:

https://nlc.p3k.hu/uploads/2019/07/jolly-768x432.jpg

Immanenz
12-21-2020, 06:02 PM
Imo the guy can easy pass as Austrian, cant see Indid. Woman looks Balkan

Dunai
12-21-2020, 06:06 PM
Imo the guy can easy pass as Austrian, cant see Indid. Woman looks Balkan

Some Hungarians just see Gypsies everywhere I swear, but obviously ethnic Hungarians can have more of a tanned skin, without having recent Roma, Jewish ancestry.

aherne
12-21-2020, 06:57 PM
They look like Serbs. Not Gypsy by any means...