My jewish admixture is more than 1-2%? [Romanian]

[andre]

23andme beta results: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=91089&d=1567786633

Ftdna: 56% south-east europe, 42% North-eastern europe, 2% Anatolian.
My heritage: eastern europe 45,4%, Balkanic 27,3%, Greek 22,5%, Ashkenazi 3,2%, West asia 1,6%

24genetics: 90% european 10% west asia (middle eastern)
K13
1 Baltic 29.7
2 North_Atlantic 22.95
3 East_Med 20.01
4 West_Med 14.39
5 West_Asian 8
6 Red_Sea 3.14
7 Siberian 1.17
8 Oceanian 0.27
9 East_Asian 0.2
10 Sub-Saharan 0.17

Single Population Sharing:



# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.94
2 Romanian 6.42
3 Bulgarian 7.07
4 Moldavian 9.35
5 Croatian 11.5
6 Hungarian 12.14
7 Greek_Thessaly 14.79
8 Austrian 16.08
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.25
10 East_German 17.46
11 South_Polish 17.91
12 Ukrainian 18.31
13 Tuscan 20.19
14 North_Italian 20.32
15 Southwest_Russian 20.62
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 21.07
17 West_German 21.26
18 Polish 21.31
19 Italian_Abruzzo 21.39
20 Central_Greek 21.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.3% Belorussian + 43.7% Italian_Jewish @ 2.03
2 56.8% Estonian_Polish + 43.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.04
3 50.6% Ashkenazi + 49.4% Belorussian @ 2.06
4 51.8% Lithuanian + 48.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.08
5 59.6% Southwest_Russian + 40.4% Italian_Jewish @ 2.1
6 50.1% Russian_Smolensk + 49.9% Ashkenazi @ 2.15
7 57.1% Russian_Smolensk + 42.9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.16
8 50.2% Ashkenazi + 49.8% Estonian_Polish @ 2.22
9 55.7% Ukrainian + 44.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.31
10 51.9% Polish + 48.1% Ashkenazi @ 2.32
11 55.2% Ashkenazi + 44.8% Lithuanian @ 2.36
12 56.2% South_Polish + 43.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.41
13 56.4% Belorussian + 43.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.54
14 57% Estonian_Polish + 43% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.56
15 56.5% Belorussian + 43.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.6
16 52.5% Belorussian + 47.5% South_Italian @ 2.61
17 52.7% Southwest_Russian + 47.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.64
18 52% Lithuanian + 48% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.7
19 50.9% East_Sicilian + 49.1% Belorussian @ 2.71
20 59.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 40.9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.73

Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Ashkenazi + Belorussian + Belorussian + South_Italian @ 1.824754
2 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Lithuanian + South_Polish @ 1.880450
3 Belorussian + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Southwest_Russian @ 1.944845
4 Ashkenazi + Belorussian + Belorussian + Central_Greek @ 1.983980
5 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Belorussian + Polish @ 2.036793
6 Belorussian + Belorussian + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish @ 2.040850
7 Ashkenazi + Belorussian + Estonian_Polish + South_Italian @ 2.060419
8 Ashkenazi + Belorussian + Italian_Jewish + Lithuanian @ 2.073816
9 Ashkenazi + Belorussian + Belorussian + East_Sicilian @ 2.076133
10 Belorussian + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + Lithuanian @ 2.092998
11 Ashkenazi + Belorussian + Southwest_Russian + West_Sicilian @ 2.144363
12 Ashkenazi + Belorussian + Central_Greek + Estonian_Polish @ 2.161402
13 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Estonian_Polish + Polish @ 2.166875
14 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Belorussian + Russian_Smolensk @ 2.168536
15 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Lithuanian + Ukrainian @ 2.174042
16 Belorussian + Estonian_Polish + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish @ 2.177267
17 Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish + Lithuanian + Russian_Smolensk @ 2.194129
18 Belorussian + Belorussian + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish @ 2.195096
19 Ashkenazi + Estonian_Polish + Italian_Jewish + Lithuanian @ 2.208877
20 Ashkenazi + Belorussian + East_Sicilian + Estonian_Polish @ 2.242233

Dodecad K12b

1 North_European 35.59
2 Atlantic_Med 25.40
3 Caucasus 24.30
4 Southwest_Asian 8.12
5 Gedrosia 4.02
6 East_Asian 1.40


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Romanians_Behar @ 5.246495
2 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 6.476201
3 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 7.427885
4 Hungarians_Behar @ 16.129219
5 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 16.779400
6 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 20.098551
7 Greek_Dodecad @ 20.536102
8 TSI30_Metspalu @ 21.584925
9 German_Dodecad @ 21.943390
10 Tuscan_HGDP @ 21.966099
11 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 22.305607
12 North_Italian_HGDP @ 23.266930
13 French_Dodecad @ 25.651709
14 French_HGDP @ 25.788628
15 Mixed_Germanic_Dodecad @ 25.895351
16 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 27.511971
17 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 27.588364
18 Dutch_Dodecad @ 27.599207
19 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 27.599562
20 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 27.618488

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Polish_Dodecad +50% S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.895264


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazi_Dodecad +25% German_Dodecad +25% Russian_Dodecad @ 2.334482


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Cypriots_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad @ 1.738252
2 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + French_Dodecad + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.760588
3 Cypriots_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad + Swedish_Dodecad @ 1.773352
4 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + French_HGDP + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.818058
5 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + British_Isles_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Lithuanians_Behar @ 1.822661
6 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + British_Isles_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Lithuanians_Behar @ 1.834060
7 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Cypriots_Behar + French_Dodecad + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.842095
8 Cypriots_Behar + Hungarians_Behar + N_Italian_Dodecad + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.845708
9 German_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + Russian_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 1.860553
10 Cypriots_Behar + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 1.886294
11 Cypriots_Behar + French_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.887005
12 Cypriots_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Norwegian_Dodecad + Polish_Dodecad @ 1.895876
13 Iranian_Jews_Behar + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Russian_B_Behar + Sardinian_HGDP @ 1.897803
14 C_Italian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Russian_B_Behar + Swedish_Dodecad @ 1.920126
15 Cypriots_Behar + French_HGDP + Romanians_Behar + Russian_Dodecad @ 1.920942
16 C_Italian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Swedish_Dodecad + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @

JTEST:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SOUTH_BALTIC 20.62
2 EAST_MED 16.97
3 ATLANTIC 14.08
4 EAST_EURO 11.11
5 WEST_MED 11.1
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 9.99
7 WEST_ASIAN 5.58
8 ASHKENAZI 5.34
9 MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.04
10 SIBERIAN 0.61
11 EAST_ASIAN 0.55

Single Population Sharing:



# Population (source) Distance
1 RO 5.39
2 Serbian 7.74
3 HU 10.06
4 AT 13.22
5 North_Italian 16.52
6 UA 18.73
7 PL 19.01
8 Tuscan 19.53
9 Ukrainian-Russian 19.92
10 West_Russian 20.49
11 FR 21
12 West_&_Central_German 21.05
13 PT 21.29
14 GR 21.44
15 South_Italian_&_Sicilian 21.68
16 Belorussian 22.6
17 NL 22.66
18 ES 22.86
19 East_Russian 24.11
20 Cornish 24.31

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.5% GR + 44.5% LIT @ 4.29
2 53.4% GR + 46.6% Northwest_Russian @ 4.44
3 53.2% PL + 46.8% GR @ 4.58
4 55.3% South_Italian_&_Sicilian + 44.7% LIT @ 4.6
5 53.1% South_Italian_&_Sicilian + 46.9% Northwest_Russian @ 4.63
6 81.7% HU + 18.3% Druze @ 4.65
7 95.4% RO + 4.6% Bedouin @ 4.65
8 51.4% GR + 48.6% Belorussian @ 4.71
9 81.5% HU + 18.5% Samaritan @ 4.78
10 53.6% UA + 46.4% GR @ 4.84
11 92.7% RO + 7.3% LIT @ 4.99
12 51.2% West_Russian + 48.8% GR @ 5
13 54.3% GR + 45.7% EE @ 5.04
14 92.9% RO + 7.1% Northwest_Russian @ 5.07
15 92.8% RO + 7.2% Belorussian @ 5.11
16 51.1% South_Italian_&_Sicilian + 48.9% Belorussian @ 5.12
17 91.9% RO + 8.1% UA @ 5.15
18 97.9% RO + 2.1% Ethiopian @ 5.17
19 92.5% RO + 7.5% PL @ 5.19
20 94.4% RO + 5.6% EE @ 5.19

[TheMaestro]

Pass in Tel-Aviv

[Luke35]

I'd go with the 23andMe report, I think they are the most accurate of the commercial tests. I know the Gedmatch J-Test is not thought of as particularly informative. Do you know of any Jewish ancestry in your family?

[andre]

I'd go with the 23andMe report, I think they are the most accurate of the commercial tests. I know the Gedmatch J-Test is not thought of as particularly informative. Do you know of any Jewish ancestry in your family?

No, i don’t know any jews in my family, maybe great great granpa of my granma who was doesn’t was german but for some reson he declare himself “german” (maybe he was ashkenazi?!)

[Pine]

I'd go with the 23andMe report, I think they are the most accurate of the commercial tests. I know the Gedmatch J-Test is not thought of as particularly informative. Do you know of any Jewish ancestry in your family?

His JTest doesn't seem inconsistent with his 23andMe, at least from first glance.

[Pine]

The way you could be autosomally more Jewish than 23andMe suggests is if your Jewish ancestry is Sephardic. Which countries do you have known ancestry from?

[andre]

The way you could be autosomally more Jewish than 23andMe suggests is if your Jewish ancestry is Sephardic. Which countries do you have known ancestry from?

All Romanian exept for the the great great granfathers of my granma (one “german” and the other “italian”) i know they were both catholic

[andre]

The way you could be autosomally more Jewish than 23andMe suggests is if your Jewish ancestry is Sephardic. Which countries do you have known ancestry from?
The sephardim on 23andme score levantine and lil north african not “anatolian” (rest at 90% confidence)

[Dick]

Dear andrew,

I'd recommend contacting Dr. Doug McDonald. He may help you further regarding your quest in finding out the truth.

mcdonald@scs.uiuc.edu

https://isogg.org/wiki/McDonald%27s_BGA_project

Kind regards,
Dick

[RenaRyuguu]

Dear andrew,

I'd recommend contacting Dr. Doug McDonald. He may help you further regarding your quest in finding out the truth.

mcdonald@scs.uiuc.edu

https://isogg.org/wiki/McDonald%27s_BGA_project

Kind regards,
Dick

https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.0XAW-_BzaRTSfeRXQxUWpQHaGC&pid=Api&rs=1

[Pine]

The sephardim on 23andme score levantine and lil north african not “anatolian” (rest at 90% confidence)

They score all types of stuff on 23andMe. They're not a uniform group. The side from Italy could've had Sephardic blood - unlikely for the German side to be Sephardi. The Italian side also could've been part Italki (ancient community).

[andre]

Dear andrew,

I'd recommend contacting Dr. Doug McDonald. He may help you further regarding your quest in finding out the truth.

mcdonald@scs.uiuc.edu

https://isogg.org/wiki/McDonald%27s_BGA_project

Kind regards,
Dick

Ahahaha, how much it will cost?

[Bakha]

Dear andrew,

I'd recommend contacting Dr. Doug McDonald. He may help you further regarding your quest in finding out the truth.

mcdonald@scs.uiuc.edu

https://isogg.org/wiki/McDonald%27s_BGA_project

Kind regards,
Dick

You can see the results for the Russian/Uzbek mix in my sig. I found out the truth.

[Leto]

Very similar to this half Jewish guy's I once posted
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?261556-Mixed-results-from-Belarus-(Ashkenazi-Chuvash-Slavic)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.03
2 North_Atlantic 21.04
3 East_Med 18.65
4 West_Med 14.44
5 West_Asian 7.62
6 Red_Sea 3.81
7 Siberian 1.85
8 South_Asian 1.68
9 Northeast_African 1.06
10 East_Asian 0.84
11 Oceanian 0.6
12 Amerindian 0.21
13 Sub-Saharan 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 6.36
2 Serbian 6.63
3 Bulgarian 6.8
4 Moldavian 9.6
5 Croatian 12.28
6 Hungarian 13.11
7 Greek_Thessaly 13.89
8 Austrian 16.99
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.92
10 East_German 18.34
11 South_Polish 18.95
12 Ukrainian 19.13
13 Tuscan 19.68
14 North_Italian 20.02
15 Italian_Abruzzo 20.69
16 Central_Greek 20.81
17 Southwest_Russian 21.48
18 East_Sicilian 21.64
19 West_Sicilian 21.68
20 West_German 21.87

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 44.8% Ashkenazi @ 1.73
2 63% Ukrainian + 37% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.75
3 57.7% Southwest_Russian + 42.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.85
4 53.5% Ukrainian + 46.5% Ashkenazi @ 1.85
5 51.9% Ashkenazi + 48.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.89
6 55.3% Russian_Smolensk + 44.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.9
7 55% Estonian_Polish + 45% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.95
8 52.1% Ashkenazi + 47.9% Estonian_Polish @ 1.97
9 63.1% Ukrainian + 36.9% Libyan_Jewish @ 2
10 57.9% Southwest_Russian + 42.1% Italian_Jewish @ 2.05
11 55.2% Estonian_Polish + 44.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.07
12 55.3% Estonian_Polish + 44.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.1
13 54.4% Belorussian + 45.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.13
14 55.4% Russian_Smolensk + 44.6% Italian_Jewish @ 2.19
15 50.1% Lithuanian + 49.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.21
16 57% Ashkenazi + 43% Lithuanian @ 2.27
17 50.3% Lithuanian + 49.7% Italian_Jewish @ 2.31
18 50.2% Ashkenazi + 49.8% Polish @ 2.34
19 50.6% Southwest_Russian + 49.4% Ashkenazi @ 2.39
20 58% Southwest_Russian + 42% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.4

[Pine]

Gedmatch oracles don't demonstrate that he's half Jewish, as the other half doesn't match up. He's Romanian, while the oracles include much more northern ethnicities like Estonian Poles and Russians.

[Leto]

Gedmatch oracles don't demonstrate that he's half Jewish, as the other half doesn't match up. He's Romanian, while the oracles include much more northern ethnicities like Estonian Poles and Russians.
Romanians are half Jews xD

[Cumansky]

Gedmatch oracles don't demonstrate that he's half Jewish

That is exactly what it shows or (demonstrates)

[Pine]

Romanians are half Jews xD

And Russians are quarter Jews.

[Leto]

And Russians are quarter Jews.
Nah, we get too little East Med. 5% or so on average. Sometimes even zero.
Anyway, that was my attempt to joke. Andrew's oracle is really similar to that of an actual half Jew. I'm going to bump that thread adding a few more calculators.

[Pine]

Nah, we get too little East Med. 5% or so on average. Sometimes even zero.
Anyway, that was my attempt to joke. Andrew's oracle is really similar to that of an actual half Jew. I'm going to bump that thread adding a few more calculators.

Don't Russians also get some Red Sea, or is that just you with a Jewish ancestor?