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Ahaddad
09-10-2019, 08:20 AM
I bit confuse about gedmatch calculators, I see some results in EUROGENES k13 of 2 cousins of Lebanese/Assyrian origin and they large distance for example to one give 45% of East Med and to Other give 37%, but when you put in Dodecad or Harappa you don’t see big differences just normal differences about family’s but reasonable to same origin. Other thing in EUROGENES put Lebanese Christian 13 of distance to Bedouins Arabs but when to change to Dodecad or Harappa this change up to 20 of distance.

Other thing Assyrians, Iraq Jews and Druze be close in Harappa and Dodecad but when you put Lebanese Christian and Assyrian In EUROGENES this change and be far one of other, but Assyrians still close of Lebanese muslim in EUROGENES.


The kits to see

T107876 (Lebanese Christian/Iraqi Christian)
T653044 (Lebanese Christian/Iraqi Christian)

M868550 (Lebanese Christian)
H063437 (Lebanese Christian)

M362670 (Lebanese Muslim)
A258833 (Lebanese Muslim)

T100856 (Assyrian)


Someone who understand about can help me?

Ahaddad
09-10-2019, 09:00 AM
Thank you

Ahaddad
09-10-2019, 02:16 PM
Please someone can help me about this..

Leto
09-10-2019, 02:50 PM
Not sure what exactly you mean but I can tell you one thing - each calculator uses its own algorithm and also different sets of reference populations. Some are pretty inaccurate to be honest. So don't take every calculator too seriously, try 'em all and then decide which one makes more sense.

JosephK
09-10-2019, 03:02 PM
Not sure what exactly you mean but I can tell you one thing - each calculator uses its own algorithm and also different sets of reference populations. Some are pretty inaccurate to be honest. So don't take every calculator too seriously, try 'em all and then decide which one makes more sense.

Also, I don't think Eurogenes is good for anybody who isn't 100% European... I wouldn't expect any sort of accuracy from any Eurogenes calculator...

Pine
09-10-2019, 03:11 PM
Yes, any 2 calculators can be fairly different and the difference you're noticing between cousins is perfectly normal.

Leto
09-10-2019, 03:23 PM
Also, I don't think Eurogenes is good for anybody who isn't 100% European... I wouldn't expect any sort of accuracy from any Eurogenes calculator...
It may or may not be accurate for mixed people as well. If you are half Chinese half English or half Moroccan half German, it may very well be accurate for you.

Ahaddad
09-10-2019, 07:35 PM
It may or may not be accurate for mixed people as well. If you are half Chinese half English or half Moroccan half German, it may very well be accurate for you.

What calculator to middle eastern you think is better, I particularly use dodecad but some people talk about gedrosia.

Leto
09-10-2019, 07:51 PM
What calculator to middle eastern you think is better, I particularly use dodecad but some people talk about gedrosia.
Dodecad, Harappa, MDLP maybe... I don't know much about Middle Easterners specifically. Eurogenes runs have Lebanese, Syrian, Palestinian, Jewish, etc.

Leto
09-10-2019, 08:10 PM
The kits to see

T107876 (Lebanese Christian/Iraqi Christian)
T653044 (Lebanese Christian/Iraqi Christian)

M868550 (Lebanese Christian)
H063437 (Lebanese Christian)

M362670 (Lebanese Muslim)
A258833 (Lebanese Muslim)

T100856 (Assyrian)

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Kit T107876

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 37.33
2 West_Asian 32.19
3 West_Med 11.36
4 Red_Sea 8.67
5 South_Asian 6.07
6 North_Atlantic 2.6
7 Northeast_African 1.4
8 East_Asian 0.2
9 Baltic 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Assyrian 3.77
2 Iranian_Jewish 5.32
3 Kurdish_Jewish 5.35
4 Georgian_Jewish 5.69
5 Armenian 7.68
6 Lebanese_Muslim 9.57
7 Turkish 10.71
8 Syrian 11.06
9 Azeri 11.23
10 Kurdish 11.65
11 Iranian 12.15
12 Lebanese_Druze 14.35
13 Cyprian 14.58
14 Lebanese_Christian 14.75
15 Jordanian 15.61
16 Samaritan 16.02
17 Palestinian 17.06
18 Bedouin 20.8
19 Tunisian_Jewish 21.22
20 Libyan_Jewish 21.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.1% Kurdish + 43.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.55
2 58.2% Kurdish + 41.8% Samaritan @ 2.64
3 96.2% Assyrian + 3.8% Kurumba @ 2.65
4 96.4% Assyrian + 3.6% Piramalai @ 2.67
5 96.1% Assyrian + 3.9% Velamas @ 2.68
6 96.5% Assyrian + 3.5% Sakilli @ 2.68
7 96.3% Assyrian + 3.7% Dusadh @ 2.69
8 96.2% Assyrian + 3.8% Uttar_Pradesh @ 2.69
9 96.3% Assyrian + 3.7% Kol @ 2.7
10 96% Assyrian + 4% Dharkar @ 2.7
11 96.6% Assyrian + 3.4% Chamar @ 2.71
12 95.6% Assyrian + 4.4% Brahmin_UP @ 2.72
13 95.7% Assyrian + 4.3% Gujarati @ 2.72
14 95.7% Assyrian + 4.3% Kshatriya @ 2.72
15 96.4% Assyrian + 3.6% Chenchu @ 2.73
16 96.2% Assyrian + 3.8% Kanjar @ 2.73
17 61.2% Iranian_Jewish + 38.8% Armenian @ 2.76
18 96.4% Assyrian + 3.6% North_Kannadi @ 2.76
19 94.8% Assyrian + 5.2% Sindhi @ 2.76
20 95.9% Assyrian + 4.1% Bangladeshi @ 2.8

Kit T653044

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 45.17
2 West_Asian 28.97
3 West_Med 10.26
4 Red_Sea 8.92
5 South_Asian 4.18
6 North_Atlantic 1.3
7 Siberian 0.56
8 Northeast_African 0.28
9 Oceanian 0.24
10 Amerindian 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurdish_Jewish 3.62
2 Iranian_Jewish 3.64
3 Assyrian 6.17
4 Lebanese_Druze 8.42
5 Lebanese_Muslim 8.9
6 Lebanese_Christian 9.75
7 Georgian_Jewish 10.17
8 Syrian 11.15
9 Samaritan 12.2
10 Armenian 13.14
11 Cyprian 13.23
12 Jordanian 13.92
13 Palestinian 14.09
14 Turkish 16.22
15 Azeri 17.24
16 Kurdish 17.83
17 Iranian 17.87
18 Bedouin 19.72
19 Tunisian_Jewish 20.16
20 Libyan_Jewish 20.88

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.6% Kurdish_Jewish + 25.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.36
2 75.1% Iranian_Jewish + 24.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.47
3 78.8% Iranian_Jewish + 21.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.62
4 86% Iranian_Jewish + 14% Samaritan @ 3.09
5 59.5% Assyrian + 40.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.11
6 83.5% Kurdish_Jewish + 16.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.13
7 89% Iranian_Jewish + 11% Cyprian @ 3.27
8 50.7% Kurdish_Jewish + 49.3% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.4
9 90.3% Kurdish_Jewish + 9.7% Samaritan @ 3.4
10 95% Iranian_Jewish + 5% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.48
11 95.8% Iranian_Jewish + 4.2% Italian_Jewish @ 3.49
12 93% Kurdish_Jewish + 7% Cyprian @ 3.49
13 96.2% Kurdish_Jewish + 3.8% Italian_Jewish @ 3.51
14 95.9% Kurdish_Jewish + 4.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.52
15 97% Iranian_Jewish + 3% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.52
16 95.9% Iranian_Jewish + 4.1% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.53
17 93.9% Iranian_Jewish + 6.1% Palestinian @ 3.53
18 97.2% Kurdish_Jewish + 2.8% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.53
19 96.4% Iranian_Jewish + 3.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.53
20 94.7% Kurdish_Jewish + 5.3% Palestinian @ 3.54

Kit M868550

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 48.13
2 West_Asian 21.86
3 Red_Sea 12.41
4 West_Med 11.75
5 North_Atlantic 2.09
6 Northeast_African 2.02
7 Baltic 1.25
8 East_Asian 0.5

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Christian 3.93
2 Lebanese_Druze 4.62
3 Samaritan 5.96
4 Palestinian 8.12
5 Lebanese_Muslim 8.39
6 Jordanian 9.55
7 Syrian 9.87
8 Kurdish_Jewish 10.23
9 Iranian_Jewish 10.82
10 Cyprian 11.13
11 Assyrian 13.16
12 Bedouin 14.88
13 Tunisian_Jewish 15.66
14 Libyan_Jewish 16.28
15 Georgian_Jewish 16.78
16 Sephardic_Jewish 18.82
17 Italian_Jewish 19.88
18 Egyptian 19.95
19 Algerian_Jewish 20.03
20 Armenian 20.14

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.4% Lebanese_Christian + 42.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.88
2 59.9% Lebanese_Druze + 40.1% Samaritan @ 3.13
3 85.8% Lebanese_Christian + 14.2% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.55
4 82% Lebanese_Christian + 18% Palestinian @ 3.59
5 83.3% Lebanese_Druze + 16.7% Bedouin @ 3.6
6 85.4% Lebanese_Christian + 14.6% Jordanian @ 3.63
7 89.3% Lebanese_Druze + 10.7% Saudi @ 3.64
8 86.5% Lebanese_Christian + 13.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.64
9 72.3% Lebanese_Druze + 27.7% Palestinian @ 3.69
10 76.1% Lebanese_Druze + 23.9% Jordanian @ 3.7
11 96.9% Lebanese_Christian + 3.1% Lezgin @ 3.71
12 95.1% Lebanese_Christian + 4.9% Iranian @ 3.73
13 97.3% Lebanese_Christian + 2.7% Tabassaran @ 3.74
14 98% Lebanese_Christian + 2% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 3.75
15 95.4% Lebanese_Christian + 4.6% Kurdish @ 3.75
16 94.8% Lebanese_Christian + 5.2% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.75
17 98.4% Lebanese_Christian + 1.6% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 3.76
18 98% Lebanese_Christian + 2% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 3.76
19 98.4% Lebanese_Christian + 1.6% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 3.77
20 98.8% Lebanese_Christian + 1.2% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 3.78

Kit H063437

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 47.04
2 West_Asian 19.26
3 West_Med 14.56
4 Red_Sea 13.53
5 North_Atlantic 2.31
6 East_Asian 1.47
7 South_Asian 1.39
8 Baltic 0.23
9 Northeast_African 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Christian 2.34
2 Samaritan 3.59
3 Lebanese_Druze 6.41
4 Palestinian 7.91
5 Lebanese_Muslim 8.42
6 Syrian 9.29
7 Cyprian 9.63
8 Jordanian 10.08
9 Kurdish_Jewish 11.93
10 Iranian_Jewish 12.62
11 Tunisian_Jewish 13.76
12 Bedouin 14.04
13 Libyan_Jewish 14.49
14 Assyrian 14.73
15 Sephardic_Jewish 16.87
16 Algerian_Jewish 17.81
17 Italian_Jewish 17.94
18 Georgian_Jewish 18.45
19 Egyptian 19.42
20 Ashkenazi 21.04

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.8% Lebanese_Christian + 6.2% Saudi @ 1.77
2 93.5% Lebanese_Christian + 6.5% Yemenite_Jewish @ 1.83
3 86.2% Lebanese_Christian + 13.8% Palestinian @ 2
4 98.8% Lebanese_Christian + 1.2% Malay @ 2.06
5 98.8% Lebanese_Christian + 1.2% Cambodian @ 2.06
6 92.7% Lebanese_Christian + 7.3% Bedouin @ 2.07
7 98.6% Lebanese_Christian + 1.4% Tibeto-Burman_Burmese @ 2.08
8 98.9% Lebanese_Christian + 1.1% Vietnamese @ 2.08
9 99% Lebanese_Christian + 1% Dai @ 2.08
10 98.9% Lebanese_Christian + 1.1% Lahu @ 2.09
11 99% Lebanese_Christian + 1% She @ 2.11
12 99% Lebanese_Christian + 1% Miaozu @ 2.11
13 99% Lebanese_Christian + 1% Tujia @ 2.12
14 98.8% Lebanese_Christian + 1.2% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 2.12
15 98.9% Lebanese_Christian + 1.1% Yizu @ 2.13
16 98.9% Lebanese_Christian + 1.1% Naxi @ 2.13
17 99% Lebanese_Christian + 1% Japanese @ 2.16
18 98.9% Lebanese_Christian + 1.1% Tu @ 2.16
19 98.8% Lebanese_Christian + 1.2% La_Brana-1 @ 2.18
20 95.8% Lebanese_Christian + 4.2% Egyptian @ 2.19

Kit M362670

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 37.55
2 West_Asian 22.61
3 West_Med 12.53
4 Red_Sea 10.22
5 North_Atlantic 5.56
6 Baltic 3.25
7 South_Asian 2.85
8 Northeast_African 1.59
9 Sub-Saharan 1.5
10 East_Asian 1.2
11 Oceanian 0.87
12 Amerindian 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Muslim 3.38
2 Syrian 4.91
3 Cyprian 8.37
4 Jordanian 9.47
5 Kurdish_Jewish 9.69
6 Iranian_Jewish 9.7
7 Lebanese_Druze 10.2
8 Assyrian 10.25
9 Samaritan 10.47
10 Lebanese_Christian 10.5
11 Palestinian 10.55
12 Turkish 12.16
13 Tunisian_Jewish 12.79
14 Georgian_Jewish 12.95
15 Libyan_Jewish 13.39
16 Sephardic_Jewish 14.07
17 Bedouin 14.5
18 Armenian 15.51
19 Azeri 15.68
20 Algerian_Jewish 15.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.6% La_Brana-1 @ 1.57
2 94.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 5.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.85
3 95.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.5% Finnish @ 1.86
4 95.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.4% East_Finnish @ 1.86
5 94.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 5.7% Tatar @ 1.86
6 95.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.8% Erzya @ 1.87
7 95.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 1.87
8 95.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.4% Estonian @ 1.89
9 95% Lebanese_Muslim + 5% Southwest_Russian @ 1.9
10 95.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.4% Lithuanian @ 1.9
11 95.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.91
12 95.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.7% Belorussian @ 1.92
13 95.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.7% Estonian_Polish @ 1.93
14 94.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 5.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.95
15 95.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.8% Polish @ 1.95
16 95.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.8% Chuvash @ 1.96
17 95.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.5% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.96
18 95% Lebanese_Muslim + 5% Ukrainian @ 1.96
19 94.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 5.1% South_Polish @ 1.96
20 93.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 6.1% Moldavian @ 2.02

Kit A258833

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 38.18
2 West_Asian 25.06
3 West_Med 14.3
4 Red_Sea 10.67
5 North_Atlantic 3.47
6 Northeast_African 2.78
7 South_Asian 1.28
8 Baltic 1.28
9 Sub-Saharan 1.11
10 Amerindian 0.93
11 Oceanian 0.57
12 East_Asian 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Muslim 2.87
2 Syrian 4.81
3 Kurdish_Jewish 8.02
4 Cyprian 8.27
5 Assyrian 8.74
6 Iranian_Jewish 8.88
7 Jordanian 9.23
8 Lebanese_Christian 9.43
9 Samaritan 9.54
10 Lebanese_Druze 10.64
11 Palestinian 10.83
12 Georgian_Jewish 11.41
13 Turkish 12.85
14 Armenian 13.87
15 Tunisian_Jewish 14.11
16 Libyan_Jewish 14.48
17 Bedouin 14.75
18 Sephardic_Jewish 15.9
19 Azeri 16.34
20 Algerian_Jewish 17.26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 6.3% Abhkasian @ 2.03
2 93.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 6.6% Georgian @ 2.05
3 94.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 5.5% Ossetian @ 2.21
4 94.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 5.3% North_Ossetian @ 2.23
5 86.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 13.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.24
6 88.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 11.6% Armenian @ 2.24
7 94.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 5.5% Balkar @ 2.25
8 94.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 5.6% Adygei @ 2.25
9 94.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 5.2% Kabardin @ 2.3
10 94.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 5.6% Kumyk @ 2.38
11 95.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.4% Chechen @ 2.4
12 77.5% Samaritan + 22.5% Ossetian @ 2.41
13 92.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.3% Kurdish @ 2.47
14 95.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 4.1% Lezgin @ 2.48
15 85.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 14.4% Assyrian @ 2.5
16 96.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 3.6% Tabassaran @ 2.53
17 90.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 9.6% Turkish @ 2.55
18 92.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.4% Azeri @ 2.57
19 56.2% Georgian_Jewish + 43.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.59
20 93.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 6.1% Iranian @ 2.6

Kit T100856

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 36.6
2 West_Asian 34.98
3 West_Med 14.91
4 Red_Sea 7.17
5 South_Asian 3.08
6 Northeast_African 1.62
7 East_Asian 0.56
8 Baltic 0.55
9 North_Atlantic 0.32
10 Oceanian 0.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgian_Jewish 4.9
2 Assyrian 5.07
3 Armenian 5.25
4 Kurdish_Jewish 8.04
5 Iranian_Jewish 9.16
6 Turkish 11.44
7 Lebanese_Muslim 11.85
8 Kurdish 12.53
9 Azeri 12.81
10 Syrian 13.69
11 Iranian 14.15
12 Cyprian 15.09
13 Lebanese_Christian 16.22
14 Lebanese_Druze 16.91
15 Samaritan 17.57
16 Jordanian 18.09
17 Palestinian 19.91
18 Georgian 21.01
19 Abhkasian 21.97
20 Kumyk 22.83

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.2% Armenian + 20.8% Samaritan @ 2.59
2 78.4% Armenian + 21.6% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.87
3 80.8% Armenian + 19.2% Jordanian @ 3.09
4 84.7% Armenian + 15.3% Bedouin @ 3.18
5 76.2% Armenian + 23.8% Syrian @ 3.2
6 87.5% Armenian + 12.5% Egyptian @ 3.21
7 82.6% Armenian + 17.4% Palestinian @ 3.24
8 73.5% Armenian + 26.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.28
9 55.7% Samaritan + 44.3% Abhkasian @ 3.29
10 57.8% Lebanese_Christian + 42.2% Abhkasian @ 3.33
11 89.8% Armenian + 10.2% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.34
12 79% Armenian + 21% Cyprian @ 3.51
13 65% Armenian + 35% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.52
14 51.6% Assyrian + 48.4% Armenian @ 3.54
15 90.1% Armenian + 9.9% Saudi @ 3.64
16 94.2% Georgian_Jewish + 5.8% Sardinian @ 3.76
17 86.4% Armenian + 13.6% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.79
18 91.4% Armenian + 8.6% Moroccan @ 3.83
19 90.9% Armenian + 9.1% Tunisian @ 3.85
20 56.7% Lebanese_Christian + 43.3% Georgian @ 3.89

Leto
09-10-2019, 08:13 PM
I'm too lazy to run them all through Dodecad K12b, maybe you can, Ahaddad. However I don't see anything unusual in them. Normal Assyrians and Lebanese.

Ahaddad
09-11-2019, 04:20 AM
I'm too lazy to run them all through Dodecad K12b, maybe you can, Ahaddad. However I don't see anything unusual in them. Normal Assyrians and Lebanese.


Thank you, this kit T107876 it’s normal to a half Assyrian and half Lebanese Christian?

PaleoEuropean
09-11-2019, 04:22 AM
What calculator to middle eastern you think is better, I particularly use dodecad but some people talk about gedrosia.

MDLP World 22 probably

JosephK
09-11-2019, 02:39 PM
I think MDLP World is the most reliable, or accurate, calculator despite it's not being very popular...

What do you think?

M868550

# Population Percent
1 Middle_East 36.9
2 Caucaus_Parsia 31.12
3 South_and_West_European 28.59
4 Sub_Saharian 1.3
5 North_and_East_European 0.85
6 Indian 0.82
7 Mesoamerican 0.19
8 East_Asian 0.16
9 North_Asian 0.05
10 Melanesian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Druze 2.72
2 Lebanese 3.93
3 Jew_Syria 4.84
4 Syrian 7.47
5 Jew_Georgia 7.65
6 Cypriot 9.04
7 Jew-Iraqi 10.3
8 Jew_Iraqi 11.5
9 Iraqi 11.65
10 Jew_Azerbaijan 12.24
11 Jew_Tunisia 12.98
12 Palestinian 13.5
13 Jew_Tat 13.61
14 Jew-Uzbekistan 13.62
15 Jew-Iran 13.67
16 Jordanian 13.78
17 Jew_Libya 14.05
18 Jew_Kurd 14.46
19 Jew_Algeria 14.5
20 Samaritian 15.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.2% Druze + 34.8% Jew_Syria @ 1.01
2 69.7% Jew_Georgia + 30.3% Jew_Morocco @ 1.12
3 95.6% Druze + 4.4% Sardinian @ 1.14
4 86.5% Druze + 13.5% Sephardim @ 1.18
5 90.5% Druze + 9.5% Sicilian @ 1.2
6 95.4% Druze + 4.6% Gok4 @ 1.2
7 88% Druze + 12% Jew_France @ 1.22
8 87.3% Druze + 12.7% Jew_Italia @ 1.22
9 78.8% Druze + 21.2% Cypriot @ 1.25
10 91.4% Druze + 8.6% Italian-South @ 1.25
11 94.4% Druze + 5.6% Corsican @ 1.28
12 96.1% Druze + 3.9% Basque @ 1.28
13 60.5% Jew-Iraqi + 39.5% Sephardim @ 1.3
14 88% Druze + 12% Greek_Cretan @ 1.31
15 63.2% Jew_Georgia + 36.8% Jew_Tunisia @ 1.32
16 95.2% Druze + 4.8% Iberian @ 1.33
17 58.6% Jew-Iraqi + 41.4% Jew_Algeria @ 1.35
18 91.7% Druze + 8.3% Italian-Center @ 1.36
19 94.9% Druze + 5.1% Portugese @ 1.37
20 94.6% Druze + 5.4% Kosovar @ 1.37

JosephK
09-11-2019, 02:40 PM
MDLP World again,

T107876

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jew_Azerbaijan 5.64
2 Jew-Uzbekistan 5.83
3 Jew_Georgia 6.17
4 Jew_Tat 6.62
5 Iraqi 7.41
6 Jew_Iraqi 7.7
7 Lebanese 7.71
8 Jew-Iraqi 7.73
9 Jew_Kurd 8.56
10 Druze 8.69
11 Syrian 8.97
12 Jew-Iran 9.61
13 Armenian 9.99
14 Turk 10.53
15 Kurd 12.04
16 Iranian 12.1
17 Jew_Syria 12.48
18 Azeri 13.73
19 Cypriot 15.26
20 Georgian_Laz 17.76

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.3% Druze + 15.7% Kalash @ 1.57
2 90.3% Jew-Uzbekistan + 9.7% Otzi @ 2.01
3 91.5% Jew-Uzbekistan + 8.5% Sardinian @ 2.02
4 81.7% Jew-Uzbekistan + 18.3% Jew_France @ 2.13
5 91% Jew-Uzbekistan + 9% Gok4 @ 2.14
6 91.5% Jew_Azerbaijan + 8.5% Ajv52 @ 2.14
7 83.5% Jew-Uzbekistan + 16.5% Sicilian @ 2.15
8 81% Jew-Uzbekistan + 19% Jew_Italia @ 2.18
9 80.7% Jew-Uzbekistan + 19.3% Sephardim @ 2.19
10 79.5% Jew-Uzbekistan + 20.5% Greek_Cretan @ 2.26
11 84.6% Jew-Uzbekistan + 15.4% Italian-South @ 2.28
12 80.8% Druze + 19.2% Pashtun @ 2.3
13 61.6% Lebanese + 38.4% Kurd @ 2.31
14 84.2% Jew_Kurd + 15.8% Kosovar @ 2.35
15 82.1% Jew-Uzbekistan + 17.9% Ashkenazim @ 2.37
16 82.5% Jew-Iraqi + 17.5% Roma @ 2.46
17 80.5% Jew-Uzbekistan + 19.5% Jew_Algeria @ 2.47
18 89.3% Jew-Uzbekistan + 10.7% Corsican @ 2.48
19 84.9% Jew-Uzbekistan + 15.1% Italian-Center @ 2.53
20 82.8% Jew-Uzbekistan + 17.2% Jew_Morocco @ 2.54

Ahaddad
09-11-2019, 08:30 PM
MDLP World again,

T107876

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jew_Azerbaijan 5.64
2 Jew-Uzbekistan 5.83
3 Jew_Georgia 6.17
4 Jew_Tat 6.62
5 Iraqi 7.41
6 Jew_Iraqi 7.7
7 Lebanese 7.71
8 Jew-Iraqi 7.73
9 Jew_Kurd 8.56
10 Druze 8.69
11 Syrian 8.97
12 Jew-Iran 9.61
13 Armenian 9.99
14 Turk 10.53
15 Kurd 12.04
16 Iranian 12.1
17 Jew_Syria 12.48
18 Azeri 13.73
19 Cypriot 15.26
20 Georgian_Laz 17.76

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.3% Druze + 15.7% Kalash @ 1.57
2 90.3% Jew-Uzbekistan + 9.7% Otzi @ 2.01
3 91.5% Jew-Uzbekistan + 8.5% Sardinian @ 2.02
4 81.7% Jew-Uzbekistan + 18.3% Jew_France @ 2.13
5 91% Jew-Uzbekistan + 9% Gok4 @ 2.14
6 91.5% Jew_Azerbaijan + 8.5% Ajv52 @ 2.14
7 83.5% Jew-Uzbekistan + 16.5% Sicilian @ 2.15
8 81% Jew-Uzbekistan + 19% Jew_Italia @ 2.18
9 80.7% Jew-Uzbekistan + 19.3% Sephardim @ 2.19
10 79.5% Jew-Uzbekistan + 20.5% Greek_Cretan @ 2.26
11 84.6% Jew-Uzbekistan + 15.4% Italian-South @ 2.28
12 80.8% Druze + 19.2% Pashtun @ 2.3
13 61.6% Lebanese + 38.4% Kurd @ 2.31
14 84.2% Jew_Kurd + 15.8% Kosovar @ 2.35
15 82.1% Jew-Uzbekistan + 17.9% Ashkenazim @ 2.37
16 82.5% Jew-Iraqi + 17.5% Roma @ 2.46
17 80.5% Jew-Uzbekistan + 19.5% Jew_Algeria @ 2.47
18 89.3% Jew-Uzbekistan + 10.7% Corsican @ 2.48
19 84.9% Jew-Uzbekistan + 15.1% Italian-Center @ 2.53
20 82.8% Jew-Uzbekistan + 17.2% Jew_Morocco @ 2.54


Yess much better, better than MDLP 23 also. You think kit T107876 are compatible to a half Lebanese and half Assyrian ? And the kit M868550 and t107876 can be closer one each other ?

Ahaddad
09-11-2019, 08:39 PM
MDLP World again,

T107876

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jew_Azerbaijan 5.64
2 Jew-Uzbekistan 5.83
3 Jew_Georgia 6.17
4 Jew_Tat 6.62
5 Iraqi 7.41
6 Jew_Iraqi 7.7
7 Lebanese 7.71
8 Jew-Iraqi 7.73
9 Jew_Kurd 8.56
10 Druze 8.69
11 Syrian 8.97
12 Jew-Iran 9.61
13 Armenian 9.99
14 Turk 10.53
15 Kurd 12.04
16 Iranian 12.1
17 Jew_Syria 12.48
18 Azeri 13.73
19 Cypriot 15.26
20 Georgian_Laz 17.76

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.3% Druze + 15.7% Kalash @ 1.57
2 90.3% Jew-Uzbekistan + 9.7% Otzi @ 2.01
3 91.5% Jew-Uzbekistan + 8.5% Sardinian @ 2.02
4 81.7% Jew-Uzbekistan + 18.3% Jew_France @ 2.13
5 91% Jew-Uzbekistan + 9% Gok4 @ 2.14
6 91.5% Jew_Azerbaijan + 8.5% Ajv52 @ 2.14
7 83.5% Jew-Uzbekistan + 16.5% Sicilian @ 2.15
8 81% Jew-Uzbekistan + 19% Jew_Italia @ 2.18
9 80.7% Jew-Uzbekistan + 19.3% Sephardim @ 2.19
10 79.5% Jew-Uzbekistan + 20.5% Greek_Cretan @ 2.26
11 84.6% Jew-Uzbekistan + 15.4% Italian-South @ 2.28
12 80.8% Druze + 19.2% Pashtun @ 2.3
13 61.6% Lebanese + 38.4% Kurd @ 2.31
14 84.2% Jew_Kurd + 15.8% Kosovar @ 2.35
15 82.1% Jew-Uzbekistan + 17.9% Ashkenazim @ 2.37
16 82.5% Jew-Iraqi + 17.5% Roma @ 2.46
17 80.5% Jew-Uzbekistan + 19.5% Jew_Algeria @ 2.47
18 89.3% Jew-Uzbekistan + 10.7% Corsican @ 2.48
19 84.9% Jew-Uzbekistan + 15.1% Italian-Center @ 2.53
20 82.8% Jew-Uzbekistan + 17.2% Jew_Morocco @ 2.54


Yess much better, better than MDLP 23 also. You think kit T107876 are compatible to a half Lebanese and half Assyrian ? And the kit M868550 and t107876 can be closer one each other ?

Pine
09-12-2019, 12:54 AM
Sibling and T107876 (Lebanese Christian/Iraqi Christian)

Largest segment = 6.0 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 6.0 cM (0.167 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.6

Mom and H063437 (Lebanese Christian)

Largest segment = 6.3 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 6.3 cM (0.175 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.6

Grandma and T653044 (Lebanese Christian/Iraqi Christian)

Largest segment = 5.1 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 5.1 cM (0.141 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.7

Ahaddad
09-12-2019, 03:22 AM
Sibling and T107876 (Lebanese Christian/Iraqi Christian)

Largest segment = 6.0 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 6.0 cM (0.167 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.6

Mom and H063437 (Lebanese Christian)

Largest segment = 6.3 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 6.3 cM (0.175 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.6

Grandma and T653044 (Lebanese Christian/Iraqi Christian)

Largest segment = 5.1 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 5.1 cM (0.141 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.7


So are related ??? You think T107876 are compatible a half Lebanese and half Iraqi Christian? Iraqis take a lot of west asian

Ahaddad
09-12-2019, 03:24 AM
Where you see the generation ?