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Beorn
03-15-2009, 01:32 AM
'Negative' attitude to Robin Hood

A Scottish expert (:rolleyes:) has uncovered a medieval document suggesting negative attitudes towards Robin Hood.

The story of how Robin and his men stole from the rich to give to the poor has long been part of English folklore.
However, Julian Luxford of St Andrews University found a dissenting voice in a Latin inscription from about 1460 in a manuscript owned by Eton College.
The previously unknown chronicle entry says Robin "infested" parts of England with "continuous robberies".
Dr Luxford, an expert in medieval manuscript studies, said: "Rather than depicting the traditionally well-liked hero, the article suggests that Robin Hood and his merry men may not actually have been 'loved by the good'.
"The new find contains a uniquely negative assessment of the outlaw, and provides rare evidence for monastic attitudes towards him."
The pre-Reformation article is the only English chronicle entry to have been discovered which mentions Robin Hood.
Three Scottish medieval authors are also thought to have set Robin in a chronological context.

Partners-in crime

Dr Luxford said: "The new find places Robin Hood in Edward I's reign, thus supporting the belief that his legend is of 13th Century origin."
A translation of the short inscription, which contains only 23 words in Latin, reads: "Around this time, according to popular opinion, a certain outlaw named Robin Hood, with his accomplices, infested Sherwood and other law-abiding areas of England with continuous robberies."
Dr Luxford said, "While Little John is not mentioned here, Robin is assigned partners-in crime.
"And the inscription's author does at least acknowledge that these men were active elsewhere in England.
"By mentioning Sherwood it buttresses the hitherto rather thin evidence for a medieval connection between Robin and the Nottinghamshire forest with which he has become so closely associated."
An article on the discovery will be published later this month in the Journal of Medieval History.
Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7941504.stm)


So basically this "expert" is telling us that Robin Hood wasn't very well liked by the Church and its clergy.

His next article was about his amazing discovery that water is wet!

Baron Samedi
03-15-2009, 02:44 AM
Apparently the Sheriff of Nottingham was not well liked by the peasants either....

Who would have known?

stormlord
03-15-2009, 06:17 PM
lol, people with lots of money don't like thieves! :eek:

Vargtand
03-15-2009, 08:36 PM
lol, people with lots of money don't like thieves! :eek:

To be honest, I would have thought the people with little money would hate thieves even more :P

Ĉmeric
03-15-2009, 08:50 PM
The more famous theives target the rich or big business. Like Jesse James or John Dillinger. The James Gang became famous & folk heroes because they stole from the banks & the railroads who were screwing over everyone else.


"Because that's where the money is."


Depression era bankrobber Willie Sutton on why he robbed banks.

Gooding
03-15-2009, 09:07 PM
lol, people with lots of money don't like thieves! :eek:

LOL,back then, most of the people with money were thieves! Go Robin Hood, Champion of the Saxons against the Norman invaders!:thumb001:

Birka
03-15-2009, 09:48 PM
LOL,back then, most of the people with money were thieves! Go Robin Hood, Champion of the Saxon againt the Norman invaders!:thumb001:

In the 13th century, people with wealth were landed gentry and anyone born into some sort of royalty. I guess they were Normans in Britain then. Did the ruling Normans have a great relationship with the majority Anglo-Saxons at that time? I don't know. A good discussion topic.

Gooding
03-15-2009, 10:10 PM
In the 13th century, people with wealth were landed gentry and anyone born into some sort of royalty. I guess they were Normans in Britain then. Did the ruling Normans have a great relationship with the majority Anglo-Saxons at that time? I don't know. A good discussion topic.

I would say "no". Just like the Anglo-Saxon gentry treated the native Celts before them like packhorses, so the Normans treated the Anglo-Saxons in their turn."Droit du Fort Main", I call it,or "Right of the Strong Hand" meant that the more technologically advanced people with better metals and fighting style subdued the less advanced folks with inferior metals and treated them as they damned well pleased. Some people revolted against such treatment and sought justice outside the law, as they knew that the law would not give them justice.Hence, we have people like Robin Hood who are looked up to as folk heroes by the descendants of those who were oppressed under tyrannical foreign rule.

Treffie
03-15-2009, 11:39 PM
LOL,back then, most of the people with money were thieves!


No change there then.:rolleyes: