MY EASTERN/SOUTH-EASTERN EUROPE N25 MODEL (GLOBAL25)

[andre]

SOUTH SLAVIC & CARPATHIC (moldavian+serbian+macedonian+bulgarian)
CENTRAL EUROPE SLAV & PANNONIA (czech+slovenian)
EAST SLAVIC & POLISH (polish+ukrainian+belarusian)
ASHKENAZI JEWISH
HELLENIC, ALBANIAN & AROMANIAN (greek)
NORTH-WEST EUROPEAN (dutch)

This calculator works so good for eastern/ south eastern europeans with european ancestry: DO NOT WORK FOR PEOPLE WITH HUGE NON EUROPEAN ADMIX.


My results:
SOUTH SLAVIC & CARPATHIC 79%
CENTRAL EUROPE SLAV & PANNONIA 3%
EAST SLAVIC & POLISH 4%
ASHKENAZI JEWISH 2%
HELLENIC, ALBANIAN & AROMANIAN 13%
NORTH-WEST EUROPEAN 0%

Sorb_Niederlausitz:Average:
SOUTH SLAVIC & CARPATHIC 0%
CENTRAL EUROPE SLAV & PANNONIA 4%
EAST SLAVIC & POLISH 95%
ASHKENAZI JEWISH 0%
HELLENIC, ALBANIAN & AROMANIAN 0%
NORTH-WEST EUROPEAN 1%

RUN WITH SCALED COORDINATES, ENJOY!

[Kaspias]

I removed Ashkenazi and added Turkmen for us.

Kaspias

SOUTH SLAVIC & CARPATHIC 40%
HELLENIC, ALBANIAN & AROMANIAN 27.5%
TURKMEN 27.5
NORTH-WEST EUROPEAN 5%

Deniz

SOUTH SLAVIC & CARPATHIC 40%
HELLENIC, ALBANIAN & AROMANIAN 35%
TURKMEN 15%
EAST SLAVIC & POLISH 5%
CENTRAL EUROPE SLAV & PANNONIA 5%

[andre]

I removed Ashkenazi and added Turkmen for us.

Kaspias

SOUTH SLAVIC & CARPATHIC 40%
HELLENIC, ALBANIAN & AROMANIAN 27.5%
TURKMEN 27.5
NORTH-WEST EUROPEAN 5%

Deniz

SOUTH SLAVIC & CARPATHIC 40%
HELLENIC, ALBANIAN & AROMANIAN 35%
TURKMEN 15%
EAST SLAVIC & POLISH 5%
CENTRAL EUROPE SLAV & PANNONIA 5%
Sorry for the question, who is Deniz? Your old g25 coordinates?

[Kaspias]

Sorry for the question, who is Deniz? Your old g25 coordinates?

My friend

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/member.php?17733-Deniz

[Peterski]

Can you check what I score (PeterskiLD)?

[TheMaestro]

What website is this.

[andre]

What website is this.
Global25 Nmontes calculator; it’s no a website but a kind of “calculator” maker

[andre]

Can you check what I score (PeterskiLD)?

i Found only PeterLD, it's your?

[TheMaestro]

Global25 Nmontes calculator; it’s no a website but a kind of “calculator” maker

Where do I use it..

[andre]

Where do I use it..

You must have G25 coordinates..

[Peterski]

i Found only PeterLD, it's your?

Yeah, maybe they renamed me. I used to be there as PeterskiLD.

[Ford]

Can you add the code for the reference populations?

[andre]

Yeah, maybe they renamed me. I used to be there as PeterskiLD.

Are you full polish??
FIT: 1,4113

SOUTH SLAVS & CARPATHIC: 22%
CENTRAL EUROPEAN SLAVS & PANNONIAN: 9%
EAST SLAVIC & POLISH: 18%
ASHKENAZI: 0%
HELLENIC, ALBANIAN & AROMANIAN: 11%
NORTH-EAST EUROPEAN: 2%

[andre]

Can you add the code for the reference populations?

I use the avareges results of ethnicities

[Peterski]

Are you full polish?

Yes, and fully from one region of Poland.

Why is my full score lower than 100%?

[andre]

Yes

Why is my full score lower than 100%?

Your are only 18% east slavic & polish; cumansky for example (i found his coordinates on an other thread) (he’s polish and ukrainian).. he score 94% east slavic & polish

[MagnusDark]

...........

Could you please run mine? Thanks in advance

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MagnusDark_scaled,0.127482,0.150298,0.020365,-0.02584,0.028621,-0.007251,0.00611,0.002769,-0.002863,0.022233,0.001624,0.007343,-0.011596,0.003165,-0.02158,0.006895,0.030379,-0.00266,0.006159,-0.007379,-0.010606,0.000124,0.000986,0.000964,-0.002036

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MagnusDark,0.0112,0.0148,0.0054,-0.008,0.0093,-0.0026,0.0026,0.0012,-0.0014,0.0122,0.001,0.0049,-0.0078,0.0023,-0.0159,0.0052,0.0233,-0.0021,0.0049,-0.0059,-0.0085,0.0001,0.0008,0.0008,-0.0017

[andre]

Yes, and fully from one region of Poland.

Why is my full score lower than 100%?

Sorry i made some mistakes

[Peterski]

Your are only 18% east slavic & polish

I'm 100% from Greater Poland Voivodeship:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Poland_Voivodeship

We are genetically West Slavic not East Slavic.

The results you posted don't add up to 100%.

[Ford]

How come everyone else is getting rounded numbers?

SOUTH SLAVIC & CARPATHIC 55.6%
CENTRAL EUROPE SLAV & PANNONIA 27.6%
EAST SLAVIC & POLISH 16.8%
ASHKENAZI JEWISH 0%
HELLENIC, ALBANIAN & AROMANIAN 0%
NORTH-WEST EUROPEAN 0%

[TheMaestro]

You must have G25 coordinates..

Thats why Im asking the link?????? nevermind.

[Peterski]

Sorry i made some mistakes

So what are my full results?

[andre]

I'm 100% from Greater Poland Voivodeship:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Poland_Voivodeship

We are genetically West Slavic not East Slavic.

The results you posted don't add up to 100%.

Polish people are genetically more similar to belarussian and ukrainian than the czech for example; culturally and linguistically, of course polish arenwest slavs:
Your results: (102% because the approximation)
SOUTH SLAVS & CARPATHIC: 62%
CENTRAL EUROPEN SLAVS & PANNONIAN: 9%
EAST SLAVS & POLISH: 18%
HELLENIC, ALBANIAN & AROMANIAN: 11%
NORTH-WEST EUROPEAN: 2%

[Peterski]

Polish people are genetically more similar to belarussian and ukrainian than the czech for example; culturally and linguistically, of course polish arenwest slavs:
Your results: (102% because the approximation)
SOUTH SLAVS & CARPATHIC: 62%
CENTRAL EUROPEN SLAVS & PANNONIAN: 9%
EAST SLAVS & POLISH: 18%
HELLENIC, ALBANIAN & AROMANIAN: 11%
NORTH-WEST EUROPEAN: 2%

Polish people are diverse. I have typical results for my region.

62% South Slav ??? :confused:

[andre]

Could you please run mine? Thanks in advance

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MagnusDark_scaled,0.127482,0.150298,0.020365,-0.02584,0.028621,-0.007251,0.00611,0.002769,-0.002863,0.022233,0.001624,0.007343,-0.011596,0.003165,-0.02158,0.006895,0.030379,-0.00266,0.006159,-0.007379,-0.010606,0.000124,0.000986,0.000964,-0.002036

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MagnusDark,0.0112,0.0148,0.0054,-0.008,0.0093,-0.0026,0.0026,0.0012,-0.0014,0.0122,0.001,0.0049,-0.0078,0.0023,-0.0159,0.0052,0.0233,-0.0021,0.0049,-0.0059,-0.0085,0.0001,0.0008,0.0008,-0.0017

HELLENIC, ALBANIAN & AROMANIAN: 78%
SOUTH SLAVS & CARPATHIC: 23%

[Peterski]

Here are my scaled coordinates, can you double check?:


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PeterskiLDs,0.135449,0.142174,0.065619,0.056848,0. 036007,0.021475,0.004935,0.006,0.005522,-0.01877,-0.004709,-0.005245,0.011744,0.011698,-0.005157,0.00053,0.002868,0.000887,-0.003897,-0.003252,-0.009358,-0.001978,0.007025,0.015785,-0.002634

[MagnusDark]

HELLENIC, ALBANIAN & AROMANIAN: 78%
SOUTH SLAVS & CARPATHIC: 23%

Thank you!

What was the distance btw?

[Peterski]

cumansky for example (i found his coordinates on an other thread) (he’s polish and ukrainian).. he score 94% east slavic & polish

Cumansky has 0% ancestry from present-day Poland. I have 100%.

He is 50% Polish from Ukraine* and 50% Ukrainian from Ukraine.

*From East Galicia.

[Ford]

Here are my scaled coordinates, can you double check?

This is what I get, may not be correct but sounds a lot more believable than your previous :P Also, bad distance.

"distance%=2.564"

CENTRAL EUROPE SLAV & PANNONIA 50.6
EAST SLAVIC & POLISH 47.8
NORTH-WEST EUROPEAN 1.6

[andre]

yes, that'
Here are my scaled coordinates, can you double check?:


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PeterskiLDs,0.135449,0.142174,0.065619,0.056848,0. 036007,0.021475,0.004935,0.006,0.005522,-0.01877,-0.004709,-0.005245,0.011744,0.011698,-0.005157,0.00053,0.002868,0.000887,-0.003897,-0.003252,-0.009358,-0.001978,0.007025,0.015785,-0.002634

Oh yes, now make sense:
"fit": 1.6618,
EAST SLAVS & POLISH: 73%
CENTRAL EUROPE SLAVS & PANNONIAN: 10%
NORTH WEST EUROPEAN: 18%

[Ford]

lol I give up

[Peterski]

So maybe that is someone else on the runner?

[MagnusDark]

..............
HELLENIC, ALBANIAN & AROMANIAN (greek)


Just noticed Greek is the only reference in the Hellenic/Albanian/Aromanian group. Does that make sense to reference Albanians and Aromanians if only Greeks were used?

[Lemgrant]

pen=0:
https://i.imgur.com/8BvBVbs.png

pen=0.001
https://i.imgur.com/LsqN4tE.png

with Moroccan_Jew fit is improving:
https://i.imgur.com/UsJPRCT.png

with Ashkenazi:
https://i.imgur.com/3leQ9sx.png

[17571imre]

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MH_scaled,0.126344,0.135065,0.045632,0.025194,0.03 4468,0.008088,0.00564,0.009461,0.007772,0.004191,-0.002111,0.001798,0.000595,0.005643,-0.007193,0.005436,0.000652,-0.000887,0.003897,-0.007504,-0.003244,-0.004946,0.004067,0.000361,0.000239


can you do mine ? :)

[Lemgrant]

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MH_scaled,0.126344,0.135065,0.045632,0.025194,0.03 4468,0.008088,0.00564,0.009461,0.007772,0.004191,-0.002111,0.001798,0.000595,0.005643,-0.007193,0.005436,0.000652,-0.000887,0.003897,-0.007504,-0.003244,-0.004946,0.004067,0.000361,0.000239


can you do mine ? :)

here: http://185.144.156.77:3000/?passcode=level2p0938

select the reference groups and paste your scaled coordinates

[ph2ter]

Very interesting!

My result:
[1] "distance%=1.3677"

ph2ter

CENTRAL EUROPE SLAV-PANNONIA,71.8
EAST SLAVIC-POLISH,20.4
NORTH-WEST EUROPEAN,6.2
SOUTH SLAVIC-CARPATHIC,1.6

[ph2ter]

Polish people are diverse. I have typical results for my region.

62% South Slav ??? :confused:

This is your result:

[1] "distance%=2.5642"

PeterskiLDNAscaled

CENTRAL EUROPE SLAV-PANNONIA,53.2
EAST SLAVIC-POLISH,46
NORTH-WEST EUROPEAN,0.8

[andre]

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MH_scaled,0.126344,0.135065,0.045632,0.025194,0.03 4468,0.008088,0.00564,0.009461,0.007772,0.004191,-0.002111,0.001798,0.000595,0.005643,-0.007193,0.005436,0.000652,-0.000887,0.003897,-0.007504,-0.003244,-0.004946,0.004067,0.000361,0.000239


can you do mine ? :)
You are so mixed! Your father is 100% dutch? Do you have some szekely ancestry?

"distance%=0.8273"

CENTRAL EUROPEAN SLAVS-PANNONIAN 38%
SOUTH SLAVS-CARPATHIAN 27%
NORTH-WESTERN EUROPEAN 17%
EAST SLAVS-POLISH: 10%
HELLENIC, ALBANIAN, AROMANIAN 6%
ASHKENAZI JEW 2.5%

[andre]

I want to see other 100% albanians and romanians.

[Lemgrant]

You are so mixed! Your father is 100% dutch? Do you have some szekely ancestry?

"distance%=0.8273"

CENTRAL EUROPEAN SLAVS-PANNONIAN 38%
SOUTH SLAVS-CARPATHIAN 27%
NORTH-WESTERN EUROPEAN 17%
EAST SLAVS-POLISH: 10%
HELLENIC, ALBANIAN, AROMANIAN 6%
ASHKENAZI JEW 2.5%

his father is 50% Dutch 50% Hungarian as says in his profile

[andre]

Just noticed Greek is the only reference in the Hellenic/Albanian/Aromanian group. Does that make sense to reference Albanians and Aromanians if only Greeks were used?

if i add albanians a lot of people shift into albanians for no reason, for example me.. i began 35% hellenic, albanian and aromanian (and that's impossible)
Greek it's the best sample because they assimilate aromanians, epirus albanians, arvanite people etc.

[andre]

ALBANIAN (AVERAGE) "FIT: 0.6521"
HELLENIC, ALBANIAN & AROMANIAN 92%
SOUTH SLAVS & CARPATHIC 8%
NORTH-WESTERN EUROPE 1%

MONTENEGRIN (AVERAGE) "FIT: 0.434"
SOUTH SLAVS & CARPATHIC 42%
CENTRAL EUROPE & PANNONIAN 33%
HELLENIC, ALBANIAN & AROMANIAN 14%
EAST SLAVS & POLISH 7%
NORTH-WESTERN EUROPE 4%

HUNGARIAN (AVERAGE) "FIT: 0.2764"
SOUTH SLAVS & CARPATHIC 10%
CENTRAL EUROPE & PANNONIAN 32%
HELLENIC, ALBANIAN & AROMANIAN 8%
EAST SLAVS & POLISH 32%
NORTH-WESTERN EUROPE 18%
ASHKENAZI JEWISH 2%

As we can see, montenegrins looks like (with the average results) like dalmatian croatian with some aromanian/albanian and little eastern european roots.
Albanians are basically pure but with a south slavic admixture.
Hungarians are a central european mutt.

[andre]

DOUBLE.

[andre]

his father is 50% Dutch 50% Hungarian as says in his profile

Ah yes, pardon.

[andre]

his father is 50% Dutch 50% Hungarian as says in his profile

Ah yes, pardon.

[17571imre]

You are so mixed! Your father is 100% dutch? Do you have some szekely ancestry?

"distance%=0.8273"

CENTRAL EUROPEAN SLAVS-PANNONIAN 38%
SOUTH SLAVS-CARPATHIAN 27%
NORTH-WESTERN EUROPEAN 17%
EAST SLAVS-POLISH: 10%
HELLENIC, ALBANIAN, AROMANIAN 6%
ASHKENAZI JEW 2.5%

that is indeed very mixed but a nice fit too.
my father is half dutch and half Hungarian.
and my mothers ancestry is from szekely yes.
wich family member from you is a csango?



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Martijn_H_scaled,0.126344,0.117801,0.054682,0.0300 39,0.03416,0.010598,0.009635,0.007615,0.005522,-0.002734,-0.005359,-0.001199,0.002676,0.003716,-0.009772,0.010342,0.017602,0.00038,0.005531,-0.003001,0.000374,-0.002968,0.008874,0.000723,0.005389


these coordinates are from my mother so if you want to try that also, im curious what she gets.
and thankyou for the results :)

[andre]

that is indeed very mixed but a nice fit too.
my father is half dutch and half Hungarian.
and my mothers ancestry is from szekely yes.
wich family member from you is a csango?



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Martijn_H_scaled,0.126344,0.117801,0.054682,0.0300 39,0.03416,0.010598,0.009635,0.007615,0.005522,-0.002734,-0.005359,-0.001199,0.002676,0.003716,-0.009772,0.010342,0.017602,0.00038,0.005531,-0.003001,0.000374,-0.002968,0.008874,0.000723,0.005389


these coordinates are from my mother so if you want to try that also, im curious what she gets.
and thankyou for the results :)

My maternal grandma is 100% csango from Siret valley;

YOUR MOTHER RESULTS:

CENTRAL EUROPEAN SLAVS-PANNONIAN 10%
SOUTH SLAVS-CARPATHIAN 28%
NORTH-WESTERN EUROPEAN 27%
EAST SLAVS-POLISH: 34%
HELLENIC, ALBANIAN, AROMANIAN 2%
ASHKENAZI JEW 0

I think she has for sure german and recent (in the last 150 years) slavic admixture
From which city/town she comes from?

[andre]

that is indeed very mixed but a nice fit too.
my father is half dutch and half Hungarian.
and my mothers ancestry is from szekely yes.
wich family member from you is a csango?



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Martijn_H_scaled,0.126344,0.117801,0.054682,0.0300 39,0.03416,0.010598,0.009635,0.007615,0.005522,-0.002734,-0.005359,-0.001199,0.002676,0.003716,-0.009772,0.010342,0.017602,0.00038,0.005531,-0.003001,0.000374,-0.002968,0.008874,0.000723,0.005389


these coordinates are from my mother so if you want to try that also, im curious what she gets.
and thankyou for the results :)

I just tried a custom calculator with she's coordinates.. so interessant; she's parents are both szekely?

"Slavic Migration": 57.5,
"Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World_K4": 39.17,
"Mongols et al.": 2.5,
"Pre-Slavic_Greek_World_K4": 0.83

2.5% east asian, for example personally i got 0.83%.

[17571imre]

My maternal grandma is 100% csango from Siret valley;

YOUR MOTHER RESULTS:

CENTRAL EUROPEAN SLAVS-PANNONIAN 10%
SOUTH SLAVS-CARPATHIAN 28%
NORTH-WESTERN EUROPEAN 27%
EAST SLAVS-POLISH: 34%
HELLENIC, ALBANIAN, AROMANIAN 2%
ASHKENAZI JEW 0

I think she has for sure german and recent (in the last 150 years) slavic admixture
From which city/town she comes from?

aahh very intresting

well her father is from Koloszvar
and her mother is from a place called Misca in Romania.
and my mothers grandfather is also from koloszvar but her grandmother is from Austria from a place under Vienna. so i think that there the 27 north western european comes from. so really intresting calculator :)

[andre]

aahh very intresting

well her father is from Koloszvar
and her mother is from a place called Misca in Romania.
and my mothers grandfather is also from koloszvar but her grandmother is from Austria from a place under Vienna. so i think that there the 27 north western european comes from. so really intresting calculator :)

Nice, in transylvanian towns the people are more ethnically mixed that they think!

[17571imre]

I just tried a custom calculator with she's coordinates.. so interessant; she's parents are both szekely?

"Slavic Migration": 57.5,
"Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World_K4": 39.17,
"Mongols et al.": 2.5,
"Pre-Slavic_Greek_World_K4": 0.83

2.5% east asian, for example personally i got 0.83%.

on myheritage she gets 2.5% Japanese and Korean
and on familytreedna she got 2% North East asia

[Karol Klačansky]

Hey man can you run my results

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Karol_scaled,0.129758,0.127957,0.06675,0.054264,0. 048317,0.018965,0.00282,0.006231,0.005318,-0.007472,0.000162,-0.002098,0.005649,0.003441,-0.007465,0.014452,0.018384,0.003294,0.004274,0.003 877,0.009608,0.001731,-0.000863,0.006748,0

[WeirdLookingFellow]

"sample": "Custom:Insert_scaled",
"fit": 2.1293,
"Moldavian_Averaged": 24.17,
"Bulgarian_Averaged": 23.33,
"Slovenian_Averaged": 19.17,
"Dutch_Averaged": 16.67,
"Greek_Averaged": 11.67,
"Belarusian_Averaged": 2.5,
"Ukrainian_Averaged": 2.5,
"Ashkenazi_Jew_Averaged": 0,

South Slavic + Carpathic = 47.5% (24.17% Moldavian 23.33% Bulgarian)
Central Europe: 19.17 %
East Slavic & Polish: 5%
Hellenic: 11.67%
North-West European: 16.67%

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Hey man can you run my results

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There you go

"Custom:Karol_scaled",
"fit": 3.1644,
"Dutch_Averaged": 40.83,
"Ukrainian_Averaged": 40.83,
"Polish_Averaged": 11.67,
"Czech_Averaged": 5.83,
"Bulgarian_Averaged": 0.83,
"Ashkenazi_Jew_Averaged": 0,

South Slavic Carpathic: 0.83%
Central Europe: 5.83%
East Slavic & Polish: 52.5%
North-West European: 40.83%

[Karol Klačansky]

There you go

"Custom:Karol_scaled",
"fit": 3.1644,
"Dutch_Averaged": 40.83,
"Ukrainian_Averaged": 40.83,
"Polish_Averaged": 11.67,
"Czech_Averaged": 5.83,
"Bulgarian_Averaged": 0.83,
"Ashkenazi_Jew_Averaged": 0,

South Slavic Carpathic: 0.83%
Central Europe: 5.83%
East Slavic & Polish: 52.5%
North-West European: 40.83%

thanks a lot man

[Dunai]

aahh very intresting

well her father is from Koloszvar
and her mother is from a place called Misca in Romania.
and my mothers grandfather is also from koloszvar but her grandmother is from Austria from a place under Vienna. so i think that there the 27 north western european comes from. so really intresting calculator :)

Based on this description none of your Hungarian ancestors are Székely, since Kolozsvár is in Central Transylvania while Tőzmiske is in Partium (West Transylvania). In these two areas only regular Hungarians live, without Székely ancestry. However if these people were of Roman-Catholic origin than it can very well be possible that at one point their ancestors were Germans, who assimilated into Hungarians (however take this as a very speculative hypothesis). Did you do any ancestry test so far? What results have you got? And what Gedmatch results also (K13, K15, K36)?

[17571imre]

Based on this description none of your Hungarian ancestors are Székely, since Kolozsvár is in Central Transylvania while Tőzmiske is in Partium (West Transylvania). In these two areas only regular Hungarians live, without Székely ancestry. However if these people were of Roman-Catholic origin than it can very well be possible that at one point their ancestors were Germans, who assimilated into Hungarians (however take this as a very speculative hypothesis). Did you do any ancestry test so far? What results have you got? And what Gedmatch results also (K13, K15, K36)?

i dont know how to place a screenshot of my results on here because it keeps saying that the image size is to big.
but i can give you my gedmatch number its:EK8672538 . and my mothers gedmatch number is: H756147

on FTDNA i get: 53% East Europe 14% British Isles 8% Southeast Europe 8% Scandinavia 8% Asia Minor 8% Ashkenazi 1% undetermined region.
my mother gets: South East Europe 35% East Europe 34% British Isles 23% Scandinavia 2% North East Asia 2% Finland <2%

[ph2ter]

Hey man can you run my results

PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC12 ,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC22 ,PC23,PC24,PC25
Karol_scaled,0.129758,0.127957,0.06675,0.054264,0. 048317,0.018965,0.00282,0.006231,0.005318,-0.007472,0.000162,-0.002098,0.005649,0.003441,-0.007465,0.014452,0.018384,0.003294,0.004274,0.003 877,0.009608,0.001731,-0.000863,0.006748,0

I just noticed your distance to other users:


Distance to: Karol
0.03099132 ph2ter_son
0.03236241 ph2ter_wife
0.03512294 ph2ter_dad
0.03522260 Cumansky
0.03529490 michal3141
0.03665366 Nibelung
0.03874468 Ayetooey
0.03958600 Tomenable
0.04104323 WMeller
0.04179308 Lugius
0.04194093 PeterskiLD
0.04240941 SlowianMother
0.04333921 Alain_dad
0.04348437 ph2ter
0.04493155 Finn
0.04506114 MolfishMum
0.04625373 Alain
0.04656617 Vestri
0.04691292 Nino
0.04814577 Capitalis
0.04826162 Csaba
0.04827290 Radboud
0.04898222 angle_dad
0.04931499 Bessarion
0.04975973 KM
0.04988515 Sktibo
0.05005859 Ford
0.05057942 Jackson_Devoni
0.05095605 Mitchell
0.05103455 sheepslay3r
0.05125117 Nibelung_uncle
0.05143383 Rosanne
0.05172388 JMcB
0.05183365 Smith_Wrenn_H
0.05186671 PV
0.05245491 Gruendig
0.05250087 Anglecynn
0.05270985 randwulf_d
0.05390368 DavidC
0.05439193 Albert_Sanders
0.05455281 Dorkymon
0.05491435 randwulf_m
0.05514700 randwulf_w
0.05538029 Cotentin2
0.05574805 Ais
0.05668938 Grace
0.05668938 Jessie
0.05734396 KK129
0.05780042 CelticDragonGod
0.05799116 SlowianFather
0.05811636 KoolmetsDad
0.05811636 RC_Dad
0.05831474 Alstrohma
0.05879253 angle_mom
0.05886547 Jerome
0.05925273 D_Marker
0.05956960 Cotentin1
0.06003340 Huijbregts
0.06011926 Helgi
0.06016129 firemonkey
0.06027720 DewslothDad
0.06081330 Cheryl_Montgomery
0.06085177 Yvette
0.06137149 Prosigoj
0.06177897 randwulf
0.06185975 Philip_Stead
0.06187217 DacoCeltic
0.06198674 Oz
0.06212877 NinoDad
0.06213869 Mary_Curley
0.06228133 Titane
0.06275362 Helgi_mum
0.06276724 Molfish
0.06292395 Lukasz
0.06292767 Timberwolf
0.06317818 dink
0.06371976 firemonkey_father
0.06457184 Trelvern
0.06535744 MolfishDad
0.06614409 Ronald_Blake
0.06779245 Smith_R
0.06804283 Dick
0.06806204 DouglasH
0.06894992 randwulf_fil
0.06909879 Garimund
0.06912416 JohnnyP
0.06982330 loxias
0.07190420 Garimund_mother
0.07214943 dalluin
0.07238686 Smith_J
0.07279468 Conqueror
0.07323040 AndourWife
0.07369880 FionnSneachta
0.07400348 AndourDaughter
0.07677330 ubora
0.07710804 Camulogene_Rix
0.07715146 FB_v5
0.07930594 Andour
0.08273698 Badger_aunt_L
0.08376635 Andrei
0.08547510 Badger_mum_A
0.08598491 Badger_mum_L
0.08670504 armandoejoaquim
0.08962885 ermelindarcnunes
0.09142262 elisabetenjoaquim
0.09273759 *****
0.09415219 modeteftlima
0.09493394 Impaler
0.09677024 Dad_Rabai
0.09688141 EMC
0.09917298 rxavierflima
0.09950297 joaoflima
0.10098238 Koolmets
0.10098238 Robert_C
0.10144935 matiasnlima
0.10359511 Lusitano
0.10396142 DavidR
0.10435846 Vivaldi
0.10447200 M_Ortiz
0.10551126 Burak



Distance to: Karol
0.02354768 Slovakian
0.03352049 Czech
0.03867009 Polish
0.03892287 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige_o
0.03929696 Hungarian
0.03958165 Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.04017758 German_East
0.04041298 Swedish
0.04099924 German
0.04210830 Austrian
0.04302943 Ukrainian
0.04396061 Slovenian
0.04450468 Croatian
0.04645995 Cossack_Kuban
0.04721057 Dutch
0.04733057 Norwegian
0.04743707 Cossack_Ukrainian
0.04798117 Russian_Voronez
0.04905354 Russian_Orel
0.04927764 Russian_Kursk
0.05080349 Welsh
0.05080976 Icelandic
0.05196588 Danish
0.05227876 Bosnian
0.05338052 Shetlandic
0.05369192 Russian_Tver
0.05381667 English
0.05385119 Orcadian
0.05398552 French_Brittany
0.05428690 Belarusian
0.05439831 Scottish
0.05480321 Russian_Smolensk
0.05609785 French_East
0.05636079 English_Cornwall
0.05703768 Belgian
0.05742777 Irish
0.05953060 Estonian
0.06051700 Montenegrin
0.06203795 Swiss_German
0.06420251 Finnish
0.06439996 Ingrian
0.06446290 French
0.06620616 Russian_Kostroma
0.06693908 Serbian
0.06760135 Lithuanian
0.06877483 Mordovian
0.07015239 Romanian
0.07288314 Swiss_French
0.07291114 Latvian
0.07437167 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.07487503 French_Provence
0.07690019 Macedonian
0.07692417 Italian_Northeast
0.07849787 Karelian
0.07903626 Bulgarian
0.08152823 Finnish_East
0.08245660 Vepsian
0.08253612 Moldavian
0.08432520 Spanish_Penedes
0.08499046 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.08504454 Spanish_Girona
0.08531745 Spanish_Barcelones
0.08571758 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.08678099 Spanish_Mallorca
0.08737434 Spanish_Cataluna
0.08742620 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.08766690 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.08768754 Spanish_Soria
0.08775524 Spanish_Lleida
0.08931424 Italian_Veneto
0.08964945 French_South
0.08983714 Spanish_Castello
0.08999983 Gagauz
0.09025753 Spanish_Baleares
0.09042463 Spanish_Pirineu
0.09169712 Spanish_Galicia
0.09212142 Spanish_Cantabria
0.09247166 Russian_Pinega
0.09268158 Spanish_Valencia
0.09345958 Spanish_Eivissa
0.09380587 Spanish_Alacant
0.09399187 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.09522083 Spanish_Menorca
0.09531613 Basque_French
0.09544951 Spanish_Murcia
0.09586739 Spanish_Aragon
0.09611703 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.09634549 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.09700581 Swiss_Italian
0.09739592 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.09757105 Spanish_Extremadura
0.09781667 Spanish_Navarra
0.09787835 Italian_Bergamo
0.09789321 Portuguese
0.09860446 Spanish_Andalucia
0.09918385 Basque_Spanish
0.10034615 Turkish_Balkans
0.10052853 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.10131338 Spanish_Asturias
0.10259608 Italian_Liguria

Vahaduo tool:
Target: Karol
Distance: 1.8451% / 0.01845094
Aggregated
48.2 Slovakian
21.8 Cossack_Kuban
12.8 Norwegian
12.0 Spanish_La_Rioja
5.2 Estonian

[Nurzat]

"sample": "Custom:Insert_scaled",
"fit": 2.1293,
"Moldavian_Averaged": 24.17,
"Bulgarian_Averaged": 23.33,
"Slovenian_Averaged": 19.17,
"Dutch_Averaged": 16.67,
"Greek_Averaged": 11.67,
"Belarusian_Averaged": 2.5,
"Ukrainian_Averaged": 2.5,
"Ashkenazi_Jew_Averaged": 0,

South Slavic + Carpathic = 47.5% (24.17% Moldavian 23.33% Bulgarian)
Central Europe: 19.17 %
East Slavic & Polish: 5%
Hellenic: 11.67%
North-West European: 16.67%

mine:

South Slavic + Carpathic: 58.2%
Central Europe: 0%
East Slavic & Polish: 33.1%
Hellenic: 0%
North-West European: 8.7%

"distance%=1.5171"

Nurzat

Bulgarian,43.1
Ukrainian,29.9
Macedonian,15.1
Dutch,8.7
Belarusian,3.2
Moldavian,0
Serbian,0
Czech,0
Slovenian,0
Polish,0
Greek,0
Ashkenazi_Jew,0

[Nurzat]

alternative model for southeastern Europe:

Balkan/Med (Greek)
Slavic (Ukrainian)
Germanic (German)
Oriental (Turkmen)


mine (distance%=1.5982):

Ukrainian,46.3
Greek,36.6
German,14.4
Turkmen,2.7

[Impaler]

Hmm, this model is weird for me.

http://i.imgur.com/BcDwK2K.png (https://imgur.com/BcDwK2K)

[Karol Klačansky]

I just noticed your distance to other users:


Distance to:Karol
0.03099132ph2ter_son
0.03236241ph2ter_wife
0.03512294ph2ter_dad



what is your wifes ancestry? Seems like your entire family is close to me.



Vahaduo tool:
Target: Karol
Distance: 1.8451% / 0.01845094
Aggregated
48.2Slovakian
21.8Cossack_Kuban
12.8Norwegian
12.0Spanish_La_Rioja
5.2Estonian

This tool is from where exactly?
I'm happy there are so many tools these days but I can't keep up with what everyone is doing all the time.

[ph2ter]

what is your wifes ancestry? Seems like your entire family is close to me.
All except me. We all are from Northwest Croatia (Zagorje region).



This tool is from where exactly?
I'm happy there are so many tools these days but I can't keep up with what everyone is doing all the time.

https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

[WeirdLookingFellow]

alternative model for southeastern Europe:

Balkan/Med (Greek)
Slavic (Ukrainian)
Germanic (German)
Oriental (Turkmen)


mine (distance%=1.5982):

Ukrainian,46.3
Greek,36.6
German,14.4
Turkmen,2.7

"sample": "Custom:Weird_scaled",
"fit": 2.1195,
"Greek_Averaged": 44.17,
"German_Averaged": 36.67,
"Ukrainian_Averaged": 15.83,
"Turkmen_Averaged": 3.33,

Your fit is much better than mine. Also it's weird that on the initial calculator made up for this thread you don't score Moldavian, but Bulgarian. I wonder why.

[Dunai]

i dont know how to place a screenshot of my results on here because it keeps saying that the image size is to big.
but i can give you my gedmatch number its:EK8672538 . and my mothers gedmatch number is: H756147

on FTDNA i get: 53% East Europe 14% British Isles 8% Southeast Europe 8% Scandinavia 8% Asia Minor 8% Ashkenazi 1% undetermined region.
my mother gets: South East Europe 35% East Europe 34% British Isles 23% Scandinavia 2% North East Asia 2% Finland <2%

You:
1 North_Atlantic 31.31
2 Baltic 26.48
3 West_Med 16.82
4 East_Med 14.03
5 West_Asian 7.4
6 Siberian 1.25
7 Red_Sea 0.99
8 South_Asian 0.77
9 Oceanian 0.55
10 East_Asian 0.28
11 Amerindian 0.12

1 Serbian 4.69
2 Hungarian 6.89
3 Romanian 8.01
4 Austrian 8.11
5 Moldavian 9.62
6 East_German 10.12
7 Croatian 10.34
8 Bulgarian 10.89
9 West_German 12.04
10 South_Dutch 13.51

K15
1 North_Sea 24.46
2 Atlantic 17.99
3 Baltic 15.27
4 West_Med 13.09
5 East_Med 10.81
6 Eastern_Euro 10.05
7 West_Asian 5.98
8 Siberian 0.68
9 Red_Sea 0.66
10 South_Asian 0.46
11 Oceanian 0.45
12 Southeast_Asian 0.09

1 Serbian 6.3
2 Hungarian 6.73
3 Austrian 8.34
4 East_German 8.95
5 Romanian 9.5
6 Moldavian 10.25
7 Croatian 10.59
8 West_German 10.78
9 French 11.35
10 South_Dutch 11.44

Your mom:
K13

1 North_Atlantic 31.1
2 Baltic 29.77
3 West_Med 15.27
4 East_Med 12.98
5 West_Asian 5.13
6 Siberian 3.29
7 South_Asian 1.58
8 East_Asian 0.8
9 Amerindian 0.08
10 Oceanian 0.01

1 Hungarian 5.21
2 Serbian 7.02
3 Austrian 7.86
4 Croatian 8.43
5 Moldavian 8.58
6 East_German 8.84
7 Romanian 10.83
8 South_Polish 13.17
9 West_German 13.39
10 Bulgarian 13.51

K15
1 North_Sea 23.97
2 Baltic 18.07
3 Atlantic 17.01
4 West_Med 11.94
5 Eastern_Euro 11.04
6 East_Med 9.63
7 West_Asian 3.93
8 Siberian 2.58
9 South_Asian 1.29
10 Southeast_Asian 0.54

1 Hungarian 5.07
2 Serbian 7.81
3 Austrian 8
4 East_German 8.38
5 Croatian 8.84
6 Moldavian 8.87
7 Romanian 10.97
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.35
9 West_German 12.59
10 South_Polish 12.81

Very interesting results, as your mom clearly gets very typical Hungarian results, in between German-Austrian and Balkans, while surprisingly even with 25% Dutch origin, you also get very similar Hungarian results, maybe little bit surprising that you also get such strong Balkan matches, making me believe your father has more Balkan matches than your mom. But overall both of you are pretty typical Hungarians.

[17571imre]

You:
1 North_Atlantic 31.31
2 Baltic 26.48
3 West_Med 16.82
4 East_Med 14.03
5 West_Asian 7.4
6 Siberian 1.25
7 Red_Sea 0.99
8 South_Asian 0.77
9 Oceanian 0.55
10 East_Asian 0.28
11 Amerindian 0.12

1 Serbian 4.69
2 Hungarian 6.89
3 Romanian 8.01
4 Austrian 8.11
5 Moldavian 9.62
6 East_German 10.12
7 Croatian 10.34
8 Bulgarian 10.89
9 West_German 12.04
10 South_Dutch 13.51

K15
1 North_Sea 24.46
2 Atlantic 17.99
3 Baltic 15.27
4 West_Med 13.09
5 East_Med 10.81
6 Eastern_Euro 10.05
7 West_Asian 5.98
8 Siberian 0.68
9 Red_Sea 0.66
10 South_Asian 0.46
11 Oceanian 0.45
12 Southeast_Asian 0.09

1 Serbian 6.3
2 Hungarian 6.73
3 Austrian 8.34
4 East_German 8.95
5 Romanian 9.5
6 Moldavian 10.25
7 Croatian 10.59
8 West_German 10.78
9 French 11.35
10 South_Dutch 11.44

Your mom:
K13

1 North_Atlantic 31.1
2 Baltic 29.77
3 West_Med 15.27
4 East_Med 12.98
5 West_Asian 5.13
6 Siberian 3.29
7 South_Asian 1.58
8 East_Asian 0.8
9 Amerindian 0.08
10 Oceanian 0.01

1 Hungarian 5.21
2 Serbian 7.02
3 Austrian 7.86
4 Croatian 8.43
5 Moldavian 8.58
6 East_German 8.84
7 Romanian 10.83
8 South_Polish 13.17
9 West_German 13.39
10 Bulgarian 13.51

K15
1 North_Sea 23.97
2 Baltic 18.07
3 Atlantic 17.01
4 West_Med 11.94
5 Eastern_Euro 11.04
6 East_Med 9.63
7 West_Asian 3.93
8 Siberian 2.58
9 South_Asian 1.29
10 Southeast_Asian 0.54

1 Hungarian 5.07
2 Serbian 7.81
3 Austrian 8
4 East_German 8.38
5 Croatian 8.84
6 Moldavian 8.87
7 Romanian 10.97
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.35
9 West_German 12.59
10 South_Polish 12.81

Very interesting results, as your mom clearly gets very typical Hungarian results, in between German-Austrian and Balkans, while surprisingly even with 25% Dutch origin, you also get very similar Hungarian results, maybe little bit surprising that you also get such strong Balkan matches, making me believe your father has more Balkan matches than your mom. But overall both of you are pretty typical Hungarians.

do you get similar results ?

[Dunai]

do you get similar results ?

You can check my results in this thread https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?194387-My-23andme-results-are-finally-here-quite-typically-Hungarian-and-Danubian, but overall I pretty much get similar results with your mom, and even with you.

[Karol Klačansky]

There you go

"Custom:Karol_scaled",
"fit": 3.1644,
"Dutch_Averaged": 40.83,
"Ukrainian_Averaged": 40.83,
"Polish_Averaged": 11.67,
"Czech_Averaged": 5.83,
"Bulgarian_Averaged": 0.83,
"Ashkenazi_Jew_Averaged": 0,

South Slavic Carpathic: 0.83%
Central Europe: 5.83%
East Slavic & Polish: 52.5%
North-West European: 40.83%

when I run my results with the populations I get this

Sample Details Fit Map Ashkenazi Jew Belarusian Bulgarian Czech Dutch Greek Macedonian Moldavian Polish Serbian Slovenian Ukrainian
1 Custom:Karol_scaled 1.3906 Open Map 0 0.83 0 0 33.33 0 0 0 24.17 0 0.83 40.83

South Slavic Carpathic: 0 %
Central Europe & Panonian : .83%
East slavic and polish: 65.83%
North West European: 33.33%

why are we getting different results? My fit is better as well

[Grace O'Malley]

I'm 100% Northwestern which I guess is what would be expected.

"fit": 1.3021,
"Dutch": 100,
"Belarusian": 0,
"Bulgarian": 0,
"Czech": 0,
"Greek": 0,
"Latvian": 0,
"Moroccan_Jew": 0,
"Polish": 0,
"Ukrainian": 0,