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Gaditanian
09-18-2019, 04:42 PM
it seems that he must have some nearby black ancestor?

https://www.elplural.com/uploads/s1/26/99/59/spiriman-2.jpeg

https://nuevodiario.es/fotos/1/ortopediaspirimanfc.JPG

https://static.ideal.es/www/multimedia/201812/14/media/cortadas/spiri-kRsF-U601890623050QKB-624x385@Ideal.jpg

http://elcorreoweb.es/binrepository/spiriman-indemnizacion-susana-diaz_20220797_20190711135913.jpg

Jesús Candel, aka Spiriman, who has made a name for himself in Andalusia thanks to his social media rants about the regional healthcare system, and his insulting remarks about the Andalusian premier.

Digital Sevilla often publishes articles repeating the slanderous remarks and phony claims made by Spiriman, such as his wild assertion that the Andalusian premier has more advisers (233) than the US president (who has 1,900 employees in the President’s Executive Office).

The One
09-18-2019, 05:00 PM
Clearly isn’t Spanish ethnically looks North African with significant ssa influences.

Nassbean
09-18-2019, 05:09 PM
Clearly isn’t Spanish ethnically looks North African with significant ssa influences.

He doesn't look north african to me

Gaditanian
09-18-2019, 05:25 PM
He doesn't look north african to me

Agree, seems a mix of Atlanto-Med + SSA, but with no berid

Nassbean
09-18-2019, 06:13 PM
Agree, seems a mix of Atlanto-Med + SSA, but with no berid

indeed reminds me some portugueses with cap verdean ancestors maybe he has latino or gitano ancestors

Kivan
09-18-2019, 08:29 PM
Looks like a mixed Brazilian or Cuban/Puerto-Rican.

Atlanto-Med/Alpine + some SSA.

Latinus
09-23-2019, 05:55 AM
He gives me a Brazilian pardo vibe in those pics.
His facial features are fully Euro and this particular hair type is not absent from Europeans.
He is pred-Atlanto-Med and looks fully Spaniard:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190923/3428043878d2cade31f3c590e5e1be8b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190923/7252196487dd51248a651cb75290854f.jpg

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Cristiano viejo
01-02-2020, 11:03 AM
He is pred-Atlanto-Med and looks fully Spaniard
lol, he does not. Notice the difference
https://andaluciainformacion.es/media/485824/protesta-de-la-asociacion-presidida-por-spiriman-en-sevilla.jpg

Dna8
01-02-2020, 11:06 AM
Nice thread.

Kindest regards.

Synapsid
01-02-2020, 11:08 AM
lol, he does not. Notice the difference
https://andaluciainformacion.es/media/485824/protesta-de-la-asociacion-presidida-por-spiriman-en-sevilla.jpg

Do you consider him a spaniard?

Gaditanian
01-02-2020, 11:22 AM
Nice thread.

Kindest regards.

Lol my pleasure

Best Regards

Cristiano viejo
01-02-2020, 11:25 AM
Do you consider him a spaniard?

Of course no. He has foreign blood for sure.

Atlantid
01-02-2020, 11:48 AM
Agree, seems a mix of Atlanto-Med + SSA, but with no berid

He looks like Salah, but not exactly, North African and Arab, sort of.

Rocinante
01-02-2020, 11:50 AM
Looks very dark, but in my opinion, spaniard pred. Atlanto-Med+slight Aegean

Atlantid
01-02-2020, 11:52 AM
Looks very dark, but in my opinion, spaniard pred. Atlanto-Med+slight Aegean

It just hit me that he looks Jewish, he's for sure a converted Jew.

Rocinante
01-02-2020, 01:04 PM
It just hit me that he looks Jewish, he's for sure a converted Jew.

I never saw a pure converted jewish or converted muslim in my life, it is said that they were expelled from the iberian peninsula. If someone here is born very "moreno" like this man, it shouldn't be seen as an atypical. Supremacists will not agree with this, i know.

Cristiano viejo
01-02-2020, 01:11 PM
I never saw a pure converted jewish or converted muslim in my life, it is said that they were expelled from the iberian peninsula. If someone here is born very "moreno" like this man, it shouldn't be seen as an atypical. Supremacists will not agree with this, i know.

He is atypical, this can be seen in any groupal picture where he appears, like that that I posted, independently if he is or not pure Spanish.

Take any random photo of him surrounded of people, you will see he looks not only out but super out
https://www.eldiario.es/fotos/Jesus-Candel-Spiriman-atendiendo-medios_EDIIMA20170328_0543_20.jpg

https://e00-elmundo.uecdn.es/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2017/08/08/15022137862910.jpg

https://e00-elmundo.uecdn.es/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2017/02/28/14883137656883.jpg

if he is not atypical, who is atypical, a black??

Gaditanian
01-02-2020, 01:12 PM
I never saw a pure converted jewish or converted muslim in my life, it is said that they were expelled from the iberian peninsula. If someone here is born very "moreno" like this man, it shouldn't be seen as an atypical. Supremacists will not agree with this, i know.

Expelled moriscos or jews are too far in time to have any representation in spaniards

My guess that this man has a great grandfather from the slaves times.

Cristiano viejo
01-02-2020, 01:14 PM
Expelled moriscos or jews are too far in time to have any representation in spaniards

My guess that this man has a great grandfather from the slaves times.

Slave times are too far as well. I bet this guy has recent admixture. That, or he is part Gypsy. But I doubt this very much since he is a doctor.

Atlantid
01-02-2020, 01:28 PM
Slave times are too far as well. I bet this guy has recent admixture. That, or he is part Gypsy. But I doubt this very much since he is a doctor.

He looks like some Spaniards.

https://e00-elmundo.uecdn.es/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2017/08/08/15022137862910.jpg


The guy in the left corner is a good example, so are two women in the upper right.

axel.aleman
01-02-2020, 01:29 PM
Look Quadroon

Rocinante
01-02-2020, 01:36 PM
He is atypical, this can be seen in any groupal picture where he appears, like that that I posted, independently if he is or not pure Spanish.

Take any random photo of him surrounded of people, you will see he looks not only out but super out
https://www.eldiario.es/fotos/Jesus-Candel-Spiriman-atendiendo-medios_EDIIMA20170328_0543_20.jpg

https://e00-elmundo.uecdn.es/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2017/08/08/15022137862910.jpg

https://e00-elmundo.uecdn.es/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2017/02/28/14883137656883.jpg

if he is not atypical, who is atypical, a black??

99.8% of the time i don't agree with you pucelano, but seeing specifically these pics, i have to say i do this time. He looks very very atypical, like if he were an Egyptian citizen. I didn't say you have to be like Morgan Freeman to be atypical, but Spain have his morenos, like Pedro Sánchez, Roberto Álamo or Xavi Hernández. This case it's like a Sergio Busquets, spaniard that don't look like one.

Atlantid
01-02-2020, 01:45 PM
99.8% of the time i don't agree with you pucelano, but seeing specifically these pics, i have to say i do this time. He looks very very atypical, like if he were an Egyptian citizen. I didn't say you have to be like Morgan Freeman to be atypical, but Spain have his morenos, like Pedro Sánchez, Roberto Álamo or Xavi Hernández. This case it's like a Sergio Busquets, spaniard that don't look like one.

Looking at the second picture closely you can see some examples of people that look like him. From the Spanish students I meet here I would say 2/5 look Trans Med and could pass anywhere along the Mediterranean sea.

There are others with light skin but hooked noses - almost MENA look - and then the majority who are Med/Alpine mix and Atlantids.

The most Atlantid are Galicians, Basques, and Catalans.

Yamnaya
01-02-2020, 01:54 PM
Clearly isn’t Spanish ethnically looks North African with significant ssa influences.

South of Spain is not like the rest of Spain, people who look like this are very common over there and most are 100% native

Rocinante
01-02-2020, 02:28 PM
Looking at the second picture closely you can see some examples of people that look like him. From the Spanish students I meet here I would say 2/5 look Trans Med and could pass anywhere along the Mediterranean sea.

There are others with light skin but hooked noses - almost MENA look - and then the majority who are Med/Alpine mix and Atlantids.

The most Atlantid are Galicians, Basques, and Catalans.

Castillian provinces are the most atlantid ones, galician and asturias the most alpine and the basque country the most baskid.

Cristiano viejo
01-02-2020, 02:29 PM
Looking at the second picture closely you can see some examples of people that look like him. From the Spanish students I meet here I would say 2/5 look Trans Med and could pass anywhere along the Mediterranean sea.

There are others with light skin but hooked noses - almost MENA look - and then the majority who are Med/Alpine mix and Atlantids.

The most Atlantid are Galicians, Basques, and Catalans.
Cool story.


South of Spain is not like the rest of Spain, people who look like this are very common over there and most are 100% native
Cooler story. I already have showed with the pictures I posted he is extremely uncommon.

Cristiano viejo
01-02-2020, 02:31 PM
Castillian provinces are the most atlantid ones, galician and asturias the most alpine and the basque country the most baskid.

+1. And not only that. He speaks by stereotypes. Catalans the most Atlantids, hahaha :picard1: when most of Catalans are semi-Andalusians, or even pure Andalusians ;)

Samnium
01-02-2020, 02:35 PM
I never saw a pure converted jewish or converted muslim in my life, it is said that they were expelled from the iberian peninsula. If someone here is born very "moreno" like this man, it shouldn't be seen as an atypical. Supremacists will not agree with this, i know.

There were "crypto-jews" and jews that were assimilated as well in Spain exactly like in italy so it's possible that he's jewish but he doesn't know it.

It's more believable than a black great-grandfather.

Zeno
01-02-2020, 02:35 PM
He looks vastly atypical for Spaniards, even for Andalusia. Tf are you talking about some of you here?

Atlantid
01-02-2020, 02:38 PM
Cool story.


Cooler story. I already have showed with the pictures I posted he is extremely uncommon.

Group pictures can be cherry picked.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/methode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F6ac21a42-a795-11e7-93f3-16e2d16612a0.jpg?crop=3450%2C1941%2C0%2C180&resize=685
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/dailystar/Pictures/2017/10/03/645800_img650x420_img650x420_crop.jpg
https://images.wsj.net/im-118113?width=620&size=1.5

To me this is what Spaniards look like.

Rocinante
01-02-2020, 02:44 PM
+1. And not only that. He speaks by stereotypes. Catalans the most Atlantids, hahaha :picard1: when most of Catalans are semi-Andalusians, or even pure Andalusians ;)

Catalans are atlantid people like castillians, and andalusians too. There's no such difference between iberians, but in my experience going here and there (Including Valladolid and Tordesillas) is that in the northwest of the country there is more alpinid influence and in Euskadi there is more baskid obviously.

Atlantid
01-02-2020, 02:44 PM
He looks vastly atypical for Spaniards, even for Andalusia. Tf are you talking about some of you here?

He does look off no doubt, but I've met quite a few with curly hair who look weird too. It's atypical European but not as much in Spain.

It is what it is, Atlantid and Mediterranean Spaniards look very European but you can't deny they have quite a few curly haired people too.

Rocinante
01-02-2020, 02:47 PM
+1. And not only that. He speaks by stereotypes. Catalans the most Atlantids, hahaha :picard1: when most of Catalans are semi-Andalusians, or even pure Andalusians ;)

Catalans are atlantid people like castillians, and andalusians too. There's no such difference between iberians, but in my experience going here and there (Including Valladolid and Tordesillas) is that in the northwest of the country there is more alpinid influence and in Euskadi there is more baskid obviously.

Atlantid
01-02-2020, 02:56 PM
+1. And not only that. He speaks by stereotypes. Catalans the most Atlantids, hahaha :picard1: when most of Catalans are semi-Andalusians, or even pure Andalusians ;)

The Catalans I met were Atlantids, men and women, with CM in there too. Maybe the exchange students are from the upper classes, it was from a business degree exchange program. A couple of the girls were tanned but had progressive features so I assumed it was from the beach.

I know from the protest pictures that they can be quite swarthy too but it's a beach city so who knows, some do have weird features though.

Zuh
01-02-2020, 04:33 PM
He gives me a Brazilian pardo vibe in those pics.
His facial features are fully Euro and this particular hair type is not absent from Europeans.
He is pred-Atlanto-Med and looks fully Spaniard:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190923/3428043878d2cade31f3c590e5e1be8b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190923/7252196487dd51248a651cb75290854f.jpg

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No such thing as Spanish look. He looks Morisco come on Latinus

kiko
01-02-2020, 06:37 PM
Atlanto-Med + Berid + residual Sudanid influence (Quadroon)

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
01-02-2020, 06:43 PM
Oddly looks Lybian\Egyptian. Clearly a distinct outlier. There are outliers but usually they retain more Iberian features.

Latinus
01-02-2020, 11:57 PM
No such thing as Spanish look. He looks Morisco come on Latinus

He is an ethnic Spaniard (isn't he?), so he looks Spanish.

Dna8
01-03-2020, 12:40 AM
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/w.K6aXsMpv1cKx5ZZWUhiA--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en-GB/homerun/uk.goal.com/9022c66f914be2fa5a05c8da75f264c2

Dna8
01-03-2020, 12:42 AM
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/xV-6zQtP_b-z0pgBp3GOb5hMfaQ=/0x0:3000x2455/1200x800/filters:focal(1260x988:1740x1468)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/56558761/841945844.0.jpg

guyinsf
01-08-2020, 02:25 AM
He gives me a Brazilian pardo vibe in those pics.
His facial features are fully Euro and this particular hair type is not absent from Europeans.
He is pred-Atlanto-Med and looks fully Spaniard:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190923/3428043878d2cade31f3c590e5e1be8b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190923/7252196487dd51248a651cb75290854f.jpg

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He doesn't look fully Spaniard to me, his look isn't quite 100% European.

Cristiano viejo
01-08-2020, 01:28 PM
He does look off no doubt, but I've met quite a few with curly hair who look weird too. It's atypical European but not as much in Spain.

It is what it is, Atlantid and Mediterranean Spaniards look very European but you can't deny they have quite a few curly haired people too.

Since when curly hair is a non-Euro trait??

Latinus
01-08-2020, 03:10 PM
Since when curly hair is a non-Euro trait??

According to many people, curly hair = SSA.
When there is a clear diference between the kinky hair of SSA people and the curly one among Euros.

Gota_type_
01-08-2020, 05:08 PM
Don´t people have eyes in their heads? He is an obvious mixed person. There are no fully Spaniards that look like them (if we discount the 1 million gypsies that we have).

In next decades we will see millions like him because we have received millions of people from Meso and South America, millions of north-africans, and millions of other places. So, in a few decades we will see native Europeans in which we will not know if they have 2 amerindian granparents or no.

For example, we have received 400.000 colombians and venezuelans in the last 5 years. Many of them are little mixed, so they don´t look like normal Spaniards. If a tourist come to Spain and he sees someone at the street he will think: "Oh, Spaniards can get so dark", when in fact he does not know that the person he is looking at is a venezuelan. We Spaniards can distinguise them easily (even more if they speak), but I am sure that a tourist can have some difficulties into knowing that they are not really Spaniards.

Nurzat
01-08-2020, 05:18 PM
Mediterranean, a robust one, so CroMag or anyway some archaic type must be involved. passes best in Spain, Portugal, Greece etc

Gota_type_
01-09-2020, 12:43 PM
Mediterranean, a robust one, so CroMag or anyway some archaic type must be involved. passes best in Spain, Portugal, Greece etc

I did not know that there were so many trolls in this forum. How can you talk about a country you have never put a foot on it? Have you seen the group pictures with Spaniards? He looks like an alien, so the conclussion is that you are trolling. He is a mulatto with obvious black ancestors.

And romanians in Spain look exotic (like non-Euros in many cases), at least most of them. And your language is extremely ugly to hear. And most of your people are delinquents here. You are a disgusting people.

Gota_type_
01-09-2020, 12:44 PM
Mediterranean, a robust one, so CroMag or anyway some archaic type must be involved. passes best in Spain, Portugal, Greece etc

I did not know that there were so many trolls in this forum. How can you talk about a country you have never put a foot on it? Have you seen the group pictures with Spaniards? He looks like an alien, so the conclussion is that you are trolling. He is a mulatto with obvious black ancestors.

And romanians in Spain look exotic (like non-Euros in many cases), at least most of them. And your language is extremely ugly to hear. And most of your people are delinquents here. You are a disgusting people.

MinervaItalica
01-09-2020, 01:08 PM
According to many people, curly hair = SSA.

Many whom? Apricity users? lol

Are there reliable scientific studies who claim that?

I saw users here who posted women with clearly artificial curly hair claiming them to be SSA. :picard1:

Adamm
01-09-2020, 01:26 PM
He looks mulatto to me.

Cristiano viejo
01-09-2020, 02:05 PM
Don´t people have eyes in their heads? He is an obvious mixed person. There are no fully Spaniards that look like them (if we discount the 1 million gypsies that we have).

In next decades we will see millions like him because we have received millions of people from Meso and South America, millions of north-africans, and millions of other places. So, in a few decades we will see native Europeans in which we will not know if they have 2 amerindian granparents or no.

For example, we have received 400.000 colombians and venezuelans in the last 5 years. Many of them are little mixed, so they don´t look like normal Spaniards. If a tourist come to Spain and he sees someone at the street he will think: "Oh, Spaniards can get so dark", when in fact he does not know that the person he is looking at is a venezuelan. We Spaniards can distinguise them easily (even more if they speak), but I am sure that a tourist can have some difficulties into knowing that they are not really Spaniards.

More even because all these Latino immigrants have Spanish surnames...

Hajimurad
01-09-2020, 02:25 PM
Who knows genealogy and ancestry of this doctor?

Latinus
01-09-2020, 02:49 PM
Many whom? Apricity users? lol

Are there reliable scientific studies who claim that?

I saw users here who posted women with clearly artificial curly hair claiming them to be SSA. :picard1:

Many people in "real life", but you can find some here with this mentality.

Gota_type_
01-09-2020, 04:06 PM
More even because all these Latino immigrants have Spanish surnames...

Yes, and the worst of all is that they can get our nationality in just 2 years... And our bastard politicians have given millions of nationalities to them in the last 20 years. Anyone can be Spaniard for our stupid politicians. Ellos nunca serán españoles para nosotros pero ellos sí se lo creerán, además de que estarán apoyados por toda la purria roja y basura política.

Cristiano viejo
01-09-2020, 04:08 PM
Yes, and the worst of all is that they can get our nationality in just 2 years... And our bastard politicians have given millions of nationalities to them in the last 20 years. Anyone can be Spaniard for our stupid politicians. Ellos nunca serán españoles para nosotros pero ellos sí se lo creerán, además de que estarán apoyados por toda la purria roja y basura política.
Aquí en este foro sin ir más lejos tenemos algunos sudacas que viven en España y se creen tan españoles como los que somos nativos.
Y encima algún nativo les da la razón, tócate los cojones xD

Gota_type_
01-09-2020, 04:15 PM
Aquí en este foro sin ir más lejos tenemos algunos sudacas que viven en España y se creen tan españoles como los que somos nativos.
Y encima algún nativo les da la razón, tócate los cojones xD

Son débiles de mente los españoles q les consideran como parte de nosotros. La lástima es que en 1-2 generaciones habrá un mestizaje y degeneración tremenda. Si le sumamos el fallecimiento en los próximos 30 años de 10 millones de ancianos españoles (no hay prácticamente ancianos de otros países, por suerte), tenemos que para el 2050, la mitad de los que veamos en cualquier calle de España serán mestizos, mulatos, o similares. Por no hablar de la morería, que es peor en todo sentido. Nauseabundo todo. Y que no haya decapitaciones públicas... Es la única solución ante tanta traición.

Por cierto, viendo q eres forero antiguo, ¿por qué narices no se ve mi imagen en mi avatar en mis posts? Ya lo he intentado de varias formas pero yo no la veo.

Cristiano viejo
01-09-2020, 04:22 PM
Son débiles de mente los españoles q les consideran como parte de nosotros. La lástima es que en 1-2 generaciones habrá un mestizaje y degeneración tremenda. Si le sumamos el fallecimiento en los próximos 30 años de 10 millones de ancianos españoles (no hay prácticamente ancianos de otros países, por suerte), tenemos que para el 2050, la mitad de los que veamos en cualquier calle de España serán mestizos, mulatos, o similares. Por no hablar de la morería, que es peor en todo sentido. Nauseabundo todo. Y que no haya decapitaciones públicas... Es la única solución ante tanta traición.

Por cierto, viendo q eres forero antiguo, ¿por qué narices no se ve mi imagen en mi avatar en mis posts? Ya lo he intentado de varias formas pero yo no la veo.

Echaremos a la panchitomoronegrada en unas pocas décadas, lo primero es librarnos del rojerío asqueroso que lo pudre todo y que permite que la sustitución étnica que tienen en mente vaya viento en popa a toda vela.

No se ve tu avatar porque necesitas una cantidad mínima de mensajes para ello. No sé exactamente cuántos.

LittleBeyond
01-11-2020, 12:15 AM
This guy is 100% Iberian same as this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnWqpjqzRMA

mitalit
01-11-2020, 12:54 AM
He dont look the same

Gota_type_
01-11-2020, 12:05 PM
This guy is 100% Iberian same as this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnWqpjqzRMA

Again, he looks like an outsider in Spain. One of those rare 5% of the population that looks extreme mediterrean or "exotic". I am a Spaniard and I don´t consider him to be white. And he does not tell about his ancestry, he could perfectly have a non-Spaniard mother or gran-father. We are starting to see here in Spain many Spaniards with 1 foreign father, in fact in the "extreme-right" political group VOX we have a Spaniard with (1 argentine mother) other with (1 cuban father), 1 with one filipina grandmother) and so on. So, that person in the video can perfectly be a non-true native. And I have never seen one like the one in the video in my city ever.

aherne
01-12-2020, 08:49 PM
If he is Spanish, then Dominicans are Spaniards, too. Compared to latter, he has no Amerindian (which would make him atypical)... He fits best as Egyptian (Levantine + SSA)

HentaiBergamasco
11-12-2022, 11:45 AM
Saharid

Jingle Bell
11-12-2022, 11:59 AM
The facial features looks West-Med, the Hair and skin colour is the strange thing, pass better in NA/Levant than Spain
Is he full Spaniard/Euro?

Gallop
11-12-2022, 02:43 PM
Jesús Candel Fábregas

De Granada, pero curiosamente sus dos apellidos diría que procederían de Cataluña, no los veo con mucha frecuencia en Andalucía.

Puede tratarse simplemente de una conjunción por el pelo muy rizado y la barba que haga recrear un aspecto o caracterización de algo que nos parecería y realmente no serlo, como tampoco tenemos su adn.

Este hombre ha muerto recientemente de Cáncer.

https://www.granadadigital.es/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Captura-video-Despedida-Jesus-Candel-Spiriman-1010x741.jpg

https://www.65ymas.com/uploads/s1/10/78/36/5/jesu-s-candel-spiriman-anuncia-que-tiene-que-someterse-a-quimioterapia-a-ver-quie-n-aguanta-ma-s_1_621x621.jpeg

El pobre no pudo superarlo, D.E.P

Jingle Bell
11-12-2022, 02:46 PM
Jesús Candel Fábregas

De Granada, pero curiosamente sus dos apellidos diría que procederían de Cataluña, no los veo con mucha frecuencia en Andalucía.

Este hombre ha muerto recientemente de Cáncer.

Oh rest in peace
do you know if he is 100% Iberian/European?

Gallop
11-12-2022, 02:59 PM
Oh rest in peace
do you know if he is 100% Iberian/European?

Sometimes the Catalan Iberian gives very strange atypical and unusual appearances in their mixtures, that the Catalans usually blame on the non-Catalan part of the rest of Spain and that is not so, in reality it is theirs, but of course with the clichés and all that, it is easier for them to blame the others. we do not know if it may have something of Catalan gypsy or Saracen, something unusual and atypical there is certainly, but it may be due to a rare and unusual combination as I said. Say what could be Almohad? is another possibility

Gallop
11-12-2022, 03:10 PM
But come on, let's take a chance. If I had to choose something for his exoticism and sticking exclusively to his locality obviating the Catalan origin of his two surnames for my experience with the IA I would say that I could have taken Mozarabic taking into account the North African incursion among the Mozarabs for which I have some hypothesis but that now is not the time since the subject is the classification of this doctor.