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Seya
09-29-2019, 12:05 PM
...on

eurogenes K13, k15
puntDNAL K12 Ancient
puntDNAL K13 Global

or at least one of them, if u're lazy :) puntDNAL K12 Ancient is the one that interests me the most.
I've seen that most europeans score some South Asia, at least on the Ancient calculators. I have 0% everywhere. I suppose it is ancestral and came with the indo-europeans. How common is it to have 0%?

Impaler
09-29-2019, 12:09 PM
puntDNAL K12 Ancient 4.28 Pct

Benyzero
09-29-2019, 12:10 PM
k13 - 0,53
Puntkal k12 - 0

Seya
09-29-2019, 12:12 PM
k13 - 0,53
Puntkal k12 - 0

Oh so it’s possible also the other way around.

Egyvalaki
09-29-2019, 12:13 PM
K13: South_Asian 1.95 Pct
K15: South_Asian 1.60 Pct
PuntDNAl A.: South_Asian 3.52 Pct
puntDNAL K13 Global:South_Asia 2.28 Pct

War Chef
09-29-2019, 12:15 PM
Punt k12 ancient - South_Asian 2.72


I think you might have some Indo-Iranian ancestry (think of the town Iassy in Moldavia is named after these guys (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iazyges)) ..... Indo-Iranians and Turkic tribes had some south-Asian, as there are south-Asian genes still today in Central-Asians.

Seya
09-29-2019, 12:23 PM
Punt k12 ancient - South_Asian 2.72


I think you might have some Indo-Iranian ancestry (think of the town Iassy in Moldavia is named after these guys (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iazyges)) ..... Indo-Iranians and Turkic tribes had some south-Asian, as there are south-Asian genes still today in Central-Asians.

Who might have indo-iranian ancestry? U didn’t quote anybody :D

Luke35
09-29-2019, 12:23 PM
puntDNAL K12 Ancient - South_Asian 1.59 Pct

puntDNAL K13 Global - South_Asia 1.93 Pct

Eurogenes K13, 15 - South_Asian 1.74 Pct

South_Asian 1.70 Pct

On a couple of these I used my AncestryDNA data, and on a couple my combined Ancestry + 23andMe data - either way they were generally within .10 of each other. So these are the highest numbers I can legitimately produce :)

Maintenance
09-29-2019, 12:44 PM
K13

South_Asian 0.72

k15

S_Indian 0.98

ksha
09-29-2019, 12:52 PM
k13- 2.69
k15 -2.09

p.k12 Ancient -1.33
p.k13 global -2.02

CommonSense
09-29-2019, 12:56 PM
Eurogenes K13: South_Asian 1.51 Pct

Eurogenes K15: South_Asian 1.03 Pct

puntDNAL K12 Ancient: South_Asian 0.13 Pct

puntDNAL K13 Global: South_Asia 0.73 Pct

Annihilus
09-29-2019, 12:56 PM
eurogenes K13 - 1.56 Pct
eurogenes K15 - 1.75 Pct
puntDNAL K12 Ancient - 2.84 Pct
puntDNAL K13 Global - 1.35 Pct

El_Abominacion
09-29-2019, 01:01 PM
K15, with oracles. My South Asian should really be a lot higher

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 23.32
2 Southeast_Asian 16.51
3 Atlantic 12.68
4 West_Asian 12.16
5 Sub-Saharan 10.55
6 North_Sea 9.48
7 Eastern_Euro 5.22
8 East_Med 5.08
9 Baltic 2.41
10 West_Med 1.82
11 Amerindian 0.76

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Afghan_Uzbeki 26.07
2 Tadjik 26.48
3 Afghan_Tadjik 26.5
4 Afghan_Hazara 28.36
5 Afghan_Pashtun 29.4
6 Turkmen 29.43
7 Uygur 29.59
8 Uzbeki 30.71
9 Burusho 30.88
10 Hazara 32.26
11 Pathan 32.29
12 Makrani 32.38
13 Balochi 32.85
14 Punjabi_Jat 32.95
15 Nogay 33.13
16 Brahui 33.16
17 Kalash 33.48
18 Afghan_Turkmen 34.07
19 Sindhi 35.16
20 Romanian 35.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.4% Romanian + 40.6% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 18.1
2 59.1% Serbian + 40.9% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 18.21
3 59% Bulgarian + 41% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 18.49
4 58% Austrian + 42% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 18.85
5 57.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 42.4% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 19.3
6 56.5% South_Dutch + 43.5% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 19.43
7 77.8% Tadjik + 22.2% Malay @ 19.59
8 56.7% French + 43.3% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 19.59
9 74.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 25.9% Malay @ 19.61
10 57.7% Hungarian + 42.3% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 19.63
11 58.6% Moldavian + 41.4% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 19.64
12 57.4% Tuscan + 42.6% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 19.66
13 75.2% Afghan_Pashtun + 24.8% Cambodian @ 19.73
14 70% Afghan_Pashtun + 30% Tibeto-Burman_Burmese @ 19.74
15 62% Nogay + 38% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 19.75
16 79% Tadjik + 21% Cambodian @ 19.81
17 56.7% East_German + 43.3% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 19.82
18 57% North_Italian + 43% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 19.83
19 57.7% Greek + 42.3% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 19.85
20 56.2% West_German + 43.8% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 19.89

Insuperable
09-29-2019, 01:06 PM
Zero on all four.

Kyp
09-29-2019, 01:07 PM
or at least one of them, if u're lazy :) puntDNAL K12 Ancient is the one that interests me the most.
I've seen that most europeans score some South Asia, at least on the Ancient calculators. I have 0% everywhere. I suppose it is ancestral and came with the indo-europeans. How common is it to have 0%?

puntDNAL K12
4.20

This is where I fail the white-test :D
I guess some Gedrosian-like "southasian" could also show up in Caucasus%
Harappaworld is good to detect actual southasian DNA. I guess most european will have 0% on it.

Seya
09-29-2019, 01:12 PM
puntDNAL K12
4.20

This is where I fail the white-test :D
I guess some Gedrosian-like "southasian" could also show up in west_asian%
Harappaworld is good to detect actual southasian DNA. I guess most european will have 0% on it.

u mean the south indian? i don't think south indian is related to indo-europeans. probably most people will score 0% there.

Maintenance
09-29-2019, 01:18 PM
double

Kyp
09-29-2019, 01:19 PM
u mean the south indian? i don't think south indian is related to indo-europeans. probably most people will score 0% there.

Yes but to me Southasia= India. Southcentral-asian would be the better term for Gedrosian related "south-asian" imo

Seya
09-29-2019, 01:26 PM
Yes but to me Southasia= India. Southcentral-asian would be the better term for Gedrosian related "south-asian" imo

but there is no such component as Southcentral-asian. anyway almost all europeans get it..which means it is ancestral indo-european heritage. everyone from east to west to north-west. i haven't seen any scandinavian result that i can remember. that would be interesting. the question was more like why i have non, not why everyone gets it? :)

Maintenance
09-29-2019, 01:27 PM
but there is no such component as Southcentral-asian. anyway almost all europeans get it..which means it is ancestral indo-european heritage. everyone from east to west to north-west. i haven't seen any scandinavian result that i can remember. that would be interesting. the question was more like why i have non, not why everyone gets it? :)

Scandinavians score up to 4.

Atleast swedish results ive seen.

WeirdLookingFellow
09-29-2019, 01:28 PM
Me:
Eurogenes K13 - 0.1
puntDNAL K12 ancient - 0
puntDNAL K13 global - 0.81

Gf: 0 everywhere. Even on Gedrosia K12 she scores none. I just noticed that it's actually impressive.

War Chef
09-29-2019, 01:29 PM
Who might have indo-iranian ancestry? U didn’t quote anybody :D

OP (you) of course. Kipchak warrior GEDmatch eurogenes k13

eurogenes k13:

north atlantic 13
baltic 15
west med 2
west asian 23
east med 15
red sea 2
south asian 8
east asian 12
siberian 10

Seya
09-29-2019, 01:30 PM
Scandinavians score up to 4.

Atleast swedish results ive seen.

Here we go...makes sense since the highest concentration i’ve seen it was among NW euros. Thanks!

Kyp
09-29-2019, 01:31 PM
but there is no such component as Southcentral-asian. anyway almost all europeans get it..which means it is ancestral indo-european heritage. everyone from east to west to north-west. i haven't seen any scandinavian result that i can remember. that would be interesting. the question was more like why i have non, not why everyone gets it? :)

It's pretty high in Scandinavia.
Yes my point is there SHOULD be a SCA component. It's mostly related to CHG/Iran_neo. Again yours could simply show up in the Caucasus and westasian components.

Seya
09-29-2019, 01:31 PM
OP (you) of course. Kipchak warrior GEDmatch eurogenes k13

eurogenes k13:

north atlantic 13
baltic 15
west med 2
west asian 23
east med 15
red sea 2
south asian 8
east asian 12
siberian 10

As i told already i have 0%. So it doesn’t make much sense if it was about me :)

War Chef
09-29-2019, 01:32 PM
As i told already i have 0%. So it doesn’t make much sense if it was about me :)

My bad, didn't read your OP good.

Maintenance
09-29-2019, 01:32 PM
1 North_Atlantic 50.02
2 Baltic 29.45
3 West_Med 10.28
4 West_Asian 2.49
5 South_Asian 2.48
6 East_Med 2.3
7 Amerindian 1.45
8 Red_Sea 1.27
9 Northeast_African 0.22
10 Oceanian 0.04

Swedish results with over 2

adding one more

1 North_Atlantic 49.84
2 Baltic 27.63
3 West_Med 10.86
4 South_Asian 2.49
5 East_Med 2.07
6 West_Asian 1.77
7 Siberian 1.73
8 Red_Sea 1.56
9 Amerindian 1.12
10 Northeast_African 0.82
11 East_Asian 0.12

SUPREEEEEME
09-29-2019, 01:34 PM
Eurogenes K13: South Asian 1.79%
Eurogenes K15: South Asian 1.79%
puntDNAL K12 Ancient: South_Asian 0.92%
puntDNAL K13 Global: South_Asia 1.41%

Kyp
09-29-2019, 01:36 PM
1 North_Atlantic 50.02
2 Baltic 29.45
3 West_Med 10.28
4 West_Asian 2.49
5 South_Asian 2.48
6 East_Med 2.3
7 Amerindian 1.45
8 Red_Sea 1.27
9 Northeast_African 0.22
10 Oceanian 0.04

Swedish results with over 2

adding one more

1 North_Atlantic 49.84
2 Baltic 27.63
3 West_Med 10.86
4 South_Asian 2.49
5 East_Med 2.07
6 West_Asian 1.77
7 Siberian 1.73
8 Red_Sea 1.56
9 Amerindian 1.12
10 Northeast_African 0.82
11 East_Asian 0.12

Indo-European stronk
https://i.imgur.com/sv2aerZ.jpg

Pedro Ruben
09-29-2019, 02:14 PM
K13: 0
K15: 0
puntDNAL K12 ancient: 0
puntDNAL K13 Global: 1.48

Adamm
09-29-2019, 02:38 PM
K13: 0%
K15: 0%
puntDNAL K12 ancient: 0%
puntDNAL K13 Global: 0%

Nassbean
09-29-2019, 02:49 PM
k13 : 0
K15 : 0
puntDNAL K12 ancient : 3.24 Pct
puntDNAL K13 Global : 2.34 Pct

tipirneni
09-29-2019, 03:07 PM
# Population Percent
Euro k13 South_Asian 69.44
punt k13 South_Asia 57.89

nittionia
09-29-2019, 03:18 PM
Indo-European stronk


Who’s that guy :)


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WeirdLookingFellow
09-29-2019, 03:20 PM
Who’s that guy :)


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Thomas Rowsell, has this very indoeuropean yt channel

https://youtu.be/6WxtDribi7I

Daos777
09-29-2019, 03:21 PM
On modern calcs I get around 2 percent.

My south Asian disappears on ancient calculators but I get relatively high CHG. I dk which samples are used for CHG on puntDNAL k12 calc but if they are from South Caucasus they prob had around 5-7 percent Basal South Eurasian and Mesolithic Iranians had around 10-15 percent. Modern calculators might be picking this up and saying it’s South Asian. Or I might be 2 percent gypsoid

Kyp
09-29-2019, 03:23 PM
Thomas Rowsell, has this very indoeuropean yt channel

https://youtu.be/6WxtDribi7I


Who’s that guy :)


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a very indoeuropean guy indeed

Bakha
09-29-2019, 03:27 PM
Pk12a - 5.49
Pk13 - 5

Bakha
09-29-2019, 03:29 PM
Harappa south indian - 3.47

Jana
09-29-2019, 03:40 PM
Zero on all four.

Me too.

Stears gets around 2,5% South Asian on gedmatch, can't post anything since I deleted my account.

frankhammer
09-29-2019, 03:50 PM
K12 ancient 0
K13 global 2.19
Eu k13 1.14
Eu k15 . 83

Abdelnour
09-29-2019, 03:50 PM
Eurogenes:
K13 - South_Asian 1.21
K15 - South_Asian 1.25

PuntDNAL:
K12 - South_Asian 2.05
K13 - South_Asia 0.88

someonenotyou
09-29-2019, 04:02 PM
Eurogenes
K13 2.25
K15 2.09

Punt
K12 0
K13 1.86

So what does this mean, I’m part gypsy? Lol.

tipirneni
09-29-2019, 04:13 PM
Eurogenes
K13 2.25
K15 2.09

Punt
K12 0
K13 1.86

So what does this mean, I’m part gypsy? Lol.

you require 10+ % to be part gypsy. few % is found widely in people with Central Asian & Iran ancestry

nittionia
09-29-2019, 04:17 PM
My mom gets 3-4% on everything, I doubt it’s anything


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Seya
09-29-2019, 04:20 PM
My mom gets 3-4% on everything, I doubt it’s anything


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If she’s Scandinavian, that’s the average apparently

Impaler
09-29-2019, 04:21 PM
My cousin:

puntDNAL K12 Ancient 2.16 Pct

Seya
09-29-2019, 04:21 PM
Me:
Eurogenes K13 - 0.1
puntDNAL K12 ancient - 0
puntDNAL K13 global - 0.81

Gf: 0 everywhere. Even on Gedrosia K12 she scores none. I just noticed that it's actually impressive.

Is she also from moldova region?

Marmara
09-29-2019, 04:23 PM
100%

IrisSelene
09-29-2019, 04:24 PM
Eurogenes K13

South_Asian 0

Eurogenes K15

South_Asian 0

puntDNAL K12 Ancient

South_Asian 0.79 Pct

puntDNAL K13 Global

South_Asia 0

MercifulServant
09-29-2019, 04:25 PM
K13: South_Asian -
Puntdnal K12: South_Asian -
Puntdnal K13: South_Asia -

No gypsy in me thank god.

Seya
09-29-2019, 04:28 PM
K13: South_Asian -
Puntdnal K12: South_Asian -
Puntdnal K13: South_Asia -

No gypsy in me thank god.

No indo-european either :D it looks like balkans has less of it than european average

farke1
09-29-2019, 04:28 PM
Eurogenes K13: 1.03 Pct
Eurogenes K15: 1.06 Pct
K12 Ancient: 2.93
K13 Global: 2.73

andre
09-29-2019, 04:29 PM
For the romanians users: someone could send me some romanian/moldavian global25 coordinates? (specify the native part of Romania), i'm working to a medieval calculator and the "accademic" sample, in my opinion are horrible. Plz contact me in private message

Anyway, Eurogenes K13 - 0
puntDNAL K12 ancient - 0
puntDNAL K13 global - 0
Thank you :)

MercifulServant
09-29-2019, 04:30 PM
No indo-european either :D it looks like balkans has less of it than european average

LOL bruh. Just because im lacking 1% doesnt mean I dont have IE. Im more IE then you are.

Daos777
09-29-2019, 04:37 PM
For the romanians users: someone could send me some romanian/moldavian global25 coordinates? (specify the native part of Romania), i'm working to a medieval calculator and the "accademic" sample, in my opinion are horrible. Plz contact me in private message

Anyway, Eurogenes K13 - 0
puntDNAL K12 ancient - 0
puntDNAL K13 global - 0
Thank you :)

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
yo_scaled,0.126344,0.114755,0.056568,0.04522,0.030 467,0.019243,0.00564,-0.002308,-0.00634,-0.014761,-0.002598,-0.010041,0.016353,0.015689,-0.018865,0.010607,0.021905,-0.004941,-0.00729,0.004377,0.004118,-0.003339,0.004807,-0.00012,-0.006826

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
yo,0.0111,0.0113,0.015,0.014,0.0099,0.0069,0.0024,-0.001,-0.0031,-0.0081,-0.0016,-0.0067,0.011,0.0114,-0.0139,0.008,0.0168,-0.0039,-0.0058,0.0035,0.0033,-0.0027,0.0039,-0.0001,-0.0057

Target: yo_scaled
Distance: 5.7455% / 0.05745498
Aggregated
50.6Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
31.8Anatolia_Barcin_N
12.0WHG
3.4Levant_PPNB
1.8Han
0.2Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.2BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP



Here you go. I’m from Constanta, Romania. 100 percent Romanian.

IrisSelene
09-29-2019, 04:39 PM
LOL bruh. Just because im lacking 1% doesnt mean I dont have IE. Im more IE then you are.

why did that trigger you so much tho lmao

MercifulServant
09-29-2019, 04:39 PM
Here you go. I’m from Constanta, Romania. 100 percent Romanian.

I thought you were part Ukrainian.

IrisSelene
09-29-2019, 04:40 PM
No indo-european either :D it looks like balkans has less of it than european average

isnt that odd lol how can scandinavians get more than us

MercifulServant
09-29-2019, 04:41 PM
isnt that odd lol how can scandinavians get more than us

Cuz we are more caucasoid on every calculator basically. they call us mongol but the balkans is one of the most west eurasian areas in europe more so then NW.

Daos777
09-29-2019, 04:43 PM
I thought you were part Ukrainian.

Nah that’s Daos7777 I’m Daos777.

Kyp
09-29-2019, 04:43 PM
Cuz we are more caucasoid on every calculator basically. they call us mongol but the balkans is one of the most west eurasian areas in europe more so then NW.

The southasian part of Northeuros is purely Caucasoid

IrisSelene
09-29-2019, 04:44 PM
Cuz we are more caucasoid on every calculator basically. they call us mongol but the balkans is one of the most west eurasian areas in europe more so then NW.

yes to my personal disappointment lol

but im rlly proud of the siberian and west asian i get

Seya
09-29-2019, 04:44 PM
isnt that odd lol how can scandinavians get more than us

NW has the most from what i’ve seen and SE has the least. Maybe it has more pre-indo-european admixture? I don’t know why

MercifulServant
09-29-2019, 04:44 PM
The southasian part of Northeuros is purely Caucasoid

Nope. The south asian component is like only 60% Caucasoid. Northeuros arent special they dont get an exception.

Daos777
09-29-2019, 04:47 PM
The southasian part of Northeuros is purely Caucasoid

It’s from Ancient South Eurasian and those guys were australoids not caucasians. Australoids used to occupy most of the Middle East and South Asia. In Europeans its a component that comes from Yamnayas CHG admixture.

IrisSelene
09-29-2019, 04:49 PM
NW has the most from what i’ve seen and SE has the least. Maybe it has more pre-indo-european admixture? I don’t know why

might be...

andre
09-29-2019, 04:53 PM
,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
yo_scaled,0.126344,0.114755,0.056568,0.04522,0.030 467,0.019243,0.00564,-0.002308,-0.00634,-0.014761,-0.002598,-0.010041,0.016353,0.015689,-0.018865,0.010607,0.021905,-0.004941,-0.00729,0.004377,0.004118,-0.003339,0.004807,-0.00012,-0.006826

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
yo,0.0111,0.0113,0.015,0.014,0.0099,0.0069,0.0024,-0.001,-0.0031,-0.0081,-0.0016,-0.0067,0.011,0.0114,-0.0139,0.008,0.0168,-0.0039,-0.0058,0.0035,0.0033,-0.0027,0.0039,-0.0001,-0.0057

Target: yo_scaled
Distance: 5.7455% / 0.05745498
Aggregated
50.6Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
31.8Anatolia_Barcin_N
12.0WHG
3.4Levant_PPNB
1.8Han
0.2Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.2BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP



Here you go. I’m from Constanta, Romania. 100 percent Romanian.

Ti govarish po ruski tovarish, net rumynski:)

Daos777
09-29-2019, 05:17 PM
Ti govarish po ruski tovarish, net rumynski:)

Hahaha kto tebe skazal?

andre
09-29-2019, 05:29 PM
Hahaha kto tebe skazal?

Your results on global25 :)

dududud
09-29-2019, 06:04 PM
Me:
K13: 0
K15: 0
puntDNAL K12 Ancient: 0
puntDNAL K13 Global: 0

Father:
K13: 0.07
K15: 0
puntDNAL K12 Ancient: 0.13
puntDNAL K13 Global: 1.36

Mother:
K13: 0
K15: 0
puntDNAL K12 Ancient: 0
puntDNAL K13 Global: 0

Kaspias
09-29-2019, 06:09 PM
Eurogenes K13: South_Asian 2.06 Pct
Eurogenes K15: South_Asian 1.97 Pct
PuntDNAL K12: South_Asian 3.40 Pct
PuntDNAL K13: South_Asia 1.71 Pct

Mingle
09-29-2019, 06:45 PM
It’s from Ancient South Eurasian and those guys were australoids not caucasians. Australoids used to occupy most of the Middle East and South Asia. In Europeans its a component that comes from Yamnayas CHG admixture.

I don't know about the Middle East but they used to be the majority in South Asia and SE Asia. Ancient remains in Eastern Iran showed them to have a bit more South Eurasian than modern Sri Lankans/South Indians but also agnificant Cacasoid admixture. Ancient samples from western Iran don't show them to be Australoid admixed though. So it was mainly S Asia + SE Asia not really the ME (though it existed in small amounts in the ME).

Daos777
09-29-2019, 07:24 PM
I don't know about the Middle East but they used to be the majority in South Asia and SE Asia. Ancient remains in Eastern Iran showed them to have a bit more South Eurasian than modern Sri Lankans/South Indians but also agnificant Cacasoid admixture. Ancient samples from western Iran don't show them to be Australoid admixed though. So it was mainly S Asia + SE Asia not really the ME (though it existed in small amounts in the ME).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4728368/

Western Iran also had it to a good degree along with Caucasus
And it was once spread throughout the Middle East but in small quantities before moving east to India and Australia.



Look at the south Asian hunter gatherer of this CHG. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190929/800196649fbe1c21eb0ede86b0065416.jpg


Also look at his Iran Mesolithic which we know had a good amount of ancestral south Eurasian.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190929/96aa0b69416e44b80fa857d12fc3b0fb.jpg


My guess is that populations significantly affected by Yamnaya admixture will have this south Asian component from the CHG of Yamnaya.





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Mingle
09-29-2019, 07:37 PM
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4728368/

Western Iran also had it to a good degree along with Caucasus
And it was once spread throughout the Middle East but in small quantities before moving east to India and Australia.



Look at the south Asian hunter gatherer of this CHG. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190929/800196649fbe1c21eb0ede86b0065416.jpg


Also look at his Iran Mesolithic which we know had a good amount of ancestral south Eurasian.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190929/96aa0b69416e44b80fa857d12fc3b0fb.jpg


My guess is that populations significantly affected by Yamnaya admixture will have this south Asian component from the CHG of Yamnaya.





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The CHG does have a significant amount of SAHG, but the Iranian Mesolithic one only has 2-3% which isn't notable really.

Thambi
09-29-2019, 07:42 PM
K13 - 69.22%
K15 - 72.71%
PuntDNAL K12 Ancient - 60.83%
PuntDNAL K13 Global - 55.61%

Thambi
09-29-2019, 07:50 PM
I don't know about the Middle East but they used to be the majority in South Asia and SE Asia. Ancient remains in Eastern Iran showed them to have a bit more South Eurasian than modern Sri Lankans/South Indians but also agnificant Cacasoid admixture. Ancient samples from western Iran don't show them to be Australoid admixed though. So it was mainly S Asia + SE Asia not really the ME (though it existed in small amounts in the ME).

Yeah SE asia definitely had some heavy ASI influenced folks. Even modern thais, burmese, cambodians get around 15-18% ASI/South asian on most calcs. Though thailand and burma could have recent indic influence from south indians since they had some impact on these two regions in particular.

Ancient Laos haobinhan sample

Kit M867675

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 45.27
2 East_Asian 23.35
3 Oceanian 11.19
4 Siberian 6.3
5 Sub-Saharan 5.09
6 Northeast_African 3.17
7 West_Med 2.56
8 Baltic 1.91
9 Red_Sea 1.16

Daos777
09-29-2019, 07:50 PM
The CHG does have a significant amount of SAHG, but the Iranian Mesolithic one only has 2-3% which isn't notable really.

Nah that’s the same guy on two different calcs.

Here is Iran Mesolithic:


https://imgur.com/kszf3qP

Around 15 percent ASI. So if you’re high in Iran Mesolithic you’re probably pretty high in ASI

Impaler
09-29-2019, 08:05 PM
Gypsy from Romania:

Eurogenes K13: 27.18 Pct
Eurogenes K15: 28.31 Pct
puntDNAL K12 Ancient: 23.69 Pct
puntDNAL K13: 23.88 Pct

NPKTO
09-29-2019, 08:27 PM
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4728368/

Western Iran also had it to a good degree along with Caucasus
And it was once spread throughout the Middle East but in small quantities before moving east to India and Australia.



Look at the south Asian hunter gatherer of this CHG. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190929/800196649fbe1c21eb0ede86b0065416.jpg


Also look at his Iran Mesolithic which we know had a good amount of ancestral south Eurasian.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190929/96aa0b69416e44b80fa857d12fc3b0fb.jpg


My guess is that populations significantly affected by Yamnaya admixture will have this south Asian component from the CHG of Yamnaya.





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South Asian Hunter Gatherer is not fully AASI/ASI. It's derived from present day South Asian hunter gatherers, who have some Iranian Neolithic type ancestry as well. South Asian component in Yamnaya was negligible. I guess by the time Yamnayans formed, genes had homogenized in Caucasus & whatever ASI component they had got reduced. Yamnaya also had some admixture from EEF source(Globular Amphora culture).

Trouble
09-30-2019, 02:39 AM
Yeah SE asia definitely had some heavy ASI influenced folks. Even modern thais, burmese, cambodians get around 15-18% ASI/South asian on most calcs. Though thailand and burma could have recent indic influence from south indians since they had some impact on these two regions in particular.

Ancient Laos haobinhan sample

Kit M867675

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 45.27
2 East_Asian 23.35
3 Oceanian 11.19
4 Siberian 6.3
5 Sub-Saharan 5.09
6 Northeast_African 3.17
7 West_Med 2.56
8 Baltic 1.91
9 Red_Sea 1.16

It's a mix of Onge like ancestry and recent Indic ancestry. Unlike South Asians, SE Asians actually have direct ancestry from Andamanese types.

Thambi
09-30-2019, 02:43 AM
It's a mix of Onge like ancestry and recent Indic ancestry. Unlike South Asians, SE Asians actually have direct ancestry from Andamanese types.

south asians do as well. There are several groups that get almost no west eurasian like the juangs, bondas, and some other indian tribal groups.

Trouble
09-30-2019, 02:45 AM
south asians do as well. There are several groups that get almost no west eurasian like the juangs, bondas, and some other indian tribal groups.

mainland south asians tend to have a different type which can be considered a cousin of Andamanese hunter gatherers I suppose. Those Juangs, bondas, got ancient SE Asian so I guess it could be true for them

Trouble
09-30-2019, 02:46 AM
K13:64.29
K15:67.39
punt12:55.87
punt13:52.74

**JC**
09-30-2019, 06:04 AM
Me
eurogenes K13
South_Asian 1.16 Pct

eurogenes K15
South_Asian 0.66 Pct

puntDNAL K12 Ancient
South_Asian 0 Pct

puntDNAL K13 Global
South_Asia 2.34 Pct

Mum
eurogenes K13
South_Asian 1.95 Pct

eurogenes K15
South_Asian 1.48 Pct

puntDNAL K12 Ancient
South_Asian 0.64 Pct

puntDNAL K13 Global
South_Asia 2.53 Pct

paradox
09-30-2019, 11:27 AM
Mine, I must get it from my mother

Eurogenes k13: 1.09
Eurogenes k15: 0.87
Puntdnal k12 ancient: 1.60
Puntdnal k13 global: 0

My father's

Eurogenes k13: 0
Eurogenes k15: 0
Puntdnal k12 ancient: 0
Punt k13 global: 0

Coastal Elite
09-30-2019, 10:56 PM
eurogenes K13 - 0.85%
eurogenes k15 - 0.43%
puntDNAL K12 Ancient - 1.48%
puntDNAL K13 Global - 0.96%

altaic
10-03-2019, 07:29 PM
Eurogenes K13 : 5.38%
Eurogenes K15 : 5.74%
puntDNAL K12 Ancient : 5.13%
puntDNAL K13 Global : 4.23%

Average: 5.12%

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Bonus

Harappa S Indian : 1.96%
MDLP K23b S Indian : 2.17%
Dodecad K12b S Asian : 2.05%

Average: 2.06%

Nurzat
10-03-2019, 08:20 PM
:bdsm: :Bondage1: :sex:

Eurogenes K13 1.20
Eurogenes K15 0.81

puntDNAL K12 Ancient 2.37
puntDNAL K13 Global 1.08

:vampire


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlTAI1-Wipo

https://www.metal-archives.com/images/3/8/6/386_logo.jpg?0810

https://www.metal-archives.com/images/3/8/6/386_photo.jpg?0515

Chris596
07-29-2020, 03:23 PM
I get 0% everywhere, or if I get some, it's even lower than the Sub Saharan amount.