MTA Closest Ancient Groups

[oszkar07]

Hungarian
1. *Gaul (5.528)
2. *Avar (5.528)
3. Gaul + Avar (5.528)
4. Scythian + Avar (5.947)
5. Scythian (7.983)
6. Avar (12.54)
7. Gaul (13.91)

Romanian
1. *Greco-Bactrian (6.925)
2. *Gaul (6.925)
3. Greco-Bactrian + Gaul (6.925)
4. Greco-Bactrian + Roman (10.36)
5. Greco-Bactrian (11.86)
6. Gaul (12.9)
7. Roman (14.95)

Croatian
1. *Scythian (7.508)
2. Scythian + Kievan Rus (7.048)
3. Scythian (7.508)
4. Scythian + Avar (7.769)
5. Avar (11.27)
6. Kievan Rus (12.36)

Bosnian
1. *Greco-Bactrian (9.31)
2. *Gaul (9.31)
3. Greco-Bactrian + Gaul (9.31)
4. Greco-Bactrian + Roman (11.96)
5. Greco-Bactrian (13.66)
6. Gaul (14.06)
7. Roman (15.64)

Serbian
1. *Greco-Bactrian (4.808)
2. *Scythian (4.808)
3. Greco-Bactrian + Scythian (4.808)
4. Greco-Bactrian + Gaul (6.738)
5. Gaul (10.98)
6. Scythian (13.29)
7. Greco-Bactrian (13.46)

Slovenian
1. *Scythian (8.83)
2. Scythian + Kievan Rus (7.889)
3. Scythian + Avar (8.204)
4. Scythian (8.83)
5. Avar (11.26)
6. Kievan Rus (12.54)

Ukraine
1. *Kievan Rus (6.81)
2. Avar + Kievan Rus (5.034)
3. Scythian + Avar (5.229)
4. Kievan Rus (6.81)
5. Avar (7.432)
6. Scythian (9.509)

Polish
1. *Avar (3.181)
2. *Kievan Rus (3.181)
3. Avar + Kievan Rus (3.181)
4. Viking + Avar (4.744)
5. Avar (4.997)
6. Kievan Rus (6.797)
7. Viking (10.03)

South Polish
1. *Scythian (3.309)
2. *Avar (3.309)
3. Scythian + Avar (3.309)
4. Avar + Kievan Rus (4.259)
5. Avar (5.551)
6. Kievan Rus (7.509)
7. Scythian (8.925)

East German
1. *Scythian (3.724)
2. *Frank (3.724)
3. Scythian + Frank (3.724)
4. Scythian + Ostrogoth (3.842)
5. Scythian (9.046)
6. Ostrogoth (9.415)
7. Frank (11.88)

Austrian
1. *Scythian (5.484)
2. *Frank (5.484)
3. Scythian + Frank (5.484)
4. Scythian + Gaul (7.388)
5. Scythian (8.75)
6. Frank (11.86)
7. Gaul (12.53)

German Central
1. *Longobard (8.31)
2. Longobard + Ostrogoth (6.194)
3. Viking + Ostrogoth (6.706)
4. Longobard (8.31)
5. Ostrogoth (9.998)
6. Viking (10.33)

North German
1. *Viking Icelandic (2.504)
2. *Frank (2.504)
3. Viking Icelandic + Frank (2.504)
4. Celt + Frank (4.339)
5. Frank (5.227)
6. Celt (6.998)
7. Viking Icelandic (7.135)

West German
1. *Visigoth (1.875)
2. *Frank (1.875)
3. Visigoth + Frank (1.875)
4. Frank (4.306)
5. Gaul + Frank (4.964)
6. Visigoth (5.648)
7. Gaul (8.915)

Moldavian
1. *Scythian (8.448)
2. Scythian + Kievan Rus (7.971)
3. Scythian (8.448)
4. Scythian + Avar (10.21)
5. Kievan Rus (14.3)
6. Avar (15.05)

Czech
1. *Scythian (6.024)
2. Scythian + Avar (4.42)
3. Scythian (6.024)
4. Scythian + Ostrogoth (6.173)
5. Avar (11.26)
6. Ostrogoth (13.04)

Bulgarian
1. *Greco-Bactrian (11.44)
2. Greco-Bactrian + Gaul (9.015)
3. Greco-Bactrian + Roman (9.096)
4. Greco-Bactrian (11.44)
5. Roman (13.55)
6. Gaul (15.57)

[Benyzero]

Almost but I have Frank instead of avar, from the german admix probably :D

[oszkar07]

Russian_Smolensk
1. *Kievan Rus (6.9)
2. Avar + Kievan Rus (5.02)
3. Avar + Early Slav (6.693)
4. Kievan Rus (6.9)
5. Avar (7.825)
6. Early Slav (13.41)

Belorussian
1. *Avar (6.15)
2. Avar + Kievan Rus (4.447)
3. Avar (6.15)
4. Avar + Early Slav (6.411)
5. Kievan Rus (7.756)
6. Early Slav (12.58)



French
1. *Gaul (3.949)
2. *Frank (3.949)
3. Gaul + Frank (3.949)
4. Visigoth + Frank (5.039)
5. Gaul (5.808)
6. Frank (5.808)
7. Visigoth (8.865)

Orcadian
1. *Celt (2.817)
2. *Longobard (2.817)
3. Celt + Longobard (2.817)
4. Viking + Celt (3.371)
5. Longobard (5.609)
6. Celt (5.917)
7. Viking (6.275)

North Dutch
1. *Viking (3.02)
2. *Saxon (3.02)
3. Viking + Saxon (3.02)
4. Longobard + Saxon (3.307)
5. Saxon (5.661)
6. Viking (5.927)
7. Longobard (6.958)

Irish
1. *Celt (2.816)
2. *Vandal (2.816)
3. Celt + Vandal (2.816)
4. Celt + Saxon (2.938)
5. Celt (4.034)
6. Saxon (6.07)
7. Vandal (6.907)

Spanish_Cataluna
1. *Visigoth (3.606)
2. *Illyrian (3.606)
3. Visigoth + Illyrian (3.606)
4. Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (4.448)
5. Illyrian (6.957)
6. Gallo-Roman (7.91)
7. Visigoth (9.135

[dududud]

And Sardinian???

[oszkar07]

Almost but I have Frank instead of avar, from the german admix probably :D

Yeh I get Scythian and Ostrogoth and then Scythian and Frank.

When I first uploaded to site and before I paid for higher level I was getting Gaul and Frank ... but now it seems Scythian is closer.
Its interesting that Hungary gets Gaul in number 1 position.

[Benyzero]

Yeh I get Scythian and Ostrogoth and then Scythian and Frank.

When I first uploaded to site and before I paid for higher level I was getting Gaul and Frank ... but now it seems Scythian is closer.
Its interesting that Hungary gets Gaul in number 1 position.

Is it worth to pay that money? My closest matches are mixed scythian+frank scythian+gaul. I was surprised too, I've connected gauls to the french and iberians mostly, but they were not far from here in early history.

[oszkar07]

Sardinian
1. Spanish_Andalucia (29.94)
2. North_Italian (30.25)
3. Tuscan (31.62)
4. Spanish_Valencia (32.19)
5. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (32.26)

Italian_Abruzzo
1. Central_Greek (5.248)
2. East_Sicilian (5.583)
3. West_Sicilian (5.732)
4. South_Italian (7.498)
5. Ashkenazi (8.393)
6. Tuscan (8.550)
7. Greek (8.825)
8. Greek_Islands (9.213)
6. Spanish_Extremadura (32.29)
7. Spanish_Aragon (32.47)
8. Spanish_Cantabria (32.54)

Italian_Jewish
1. Algerian_Jewish (3.931)
2. South_Italian (7.304)
3. Tunisian_Jewish (7.484)
4. East_Sicilian (8.866)
5. Libyan_Jewish (9.171)
6. Ashkenazi (10.40)
7. West_Sicilian (10.41)
8. Central_Greek (10.45)

Central Greek
1. *Hellenic Roman (3.867)
2. *Roman (3.867)
3. Hellenic Roman + Roman (3.867)
4. Ancient Greek + Hellenic Roman (7.932)
5. Hellenic Roman (10.0)
6. Roman (12.19)
7. Ancient Greek (13.85)

Greek_Thessaly
1. *Greco-Bactrian (5.672)
2. *Roman (5.672)
3. Greco-Bactrian + Roman (5.672)
4. Greco-Bactrian + Hellenic Roman (6.699)
5. Roman (9.7)
6. Greco-Bactrian (10.93)
7. Hellenic Roman (11.78)

[dududud]

Sardinian
1. Spanish_Andalucia (29.94)
2. North_Italian (30.25)
3. Tuscan (31.62)
4. Spanish_Valencia (32.19)
5. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (32.26))

Rolf.

[oszkar07]

Is it worth to pay that money? My closest matches are mixed scythian+frank scythian+gaul. I was surprised too, I've connected gauls to the french and iberians mostly, but they were not far from here in early history.

Its a bit expensive.
Is it worth it ?... depends on how interesting you find the deeper matches and maps, its maybe a bit of a ripoff but for me I find the extra info interesting.

[harutsafaryan07]

Can you post Armenian ?

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[oszkar07]

Is it worth to pay that money? My closest matches are mixed scythian+frank scythian+gaul. I was surprised too, I've connected gauls to the french and iberians mostly, but they were not far from here in early history.

Gauls ... even Romanians,Bosnians and Serbs get them , but looks like they dont cluster closely with Croats and Slovenes.
I wouldnt expect Hungary to get them in closest position.

[oszkar07]

Can you post Armenian ?

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Armenian
1. *Hittite (19.69)
2. Pontic + Hittite (16.82)
3. Hellenic Roman + Hittite (18.42)
4. Hittite (19.69)
5. Hellenic Roman (21.18)
6. Pontic (22.13)

Armenian looks about right , my wife is Armenian her results are below ...

Oszkar wife
Pontic + Hittite (17.95)
Hellenic Roman + Hittite (20.85)
Hittite (21.71)
Pontic (22.01)
Hellenic Roman (22.57)

[Benyzero]

Gauls ... even Romanians,Bosnians and Serbs get them , but looks like they dont cluster closely with Croats and Slovenes.
I wouldnt expect Hungary to get them in closest position.

The question is how significant this ancestry was, a matching sample means it was present, but how close, that could differs in each population.

[Moje ime]

Hungarian
1. *Gaul (5.528)
2. *Avar (5.528)
3. Gaul + Avar (5.528)
4. Scythian + Avar (5.947)
5. Scythian (7.983)
6. Avar (12.54)
7. Gaul (13.91)

What this means? Is Gaul distance 13.91 or 5.528 in this case?

[Snkves]

Swedish
1. *Viking (1.96)
2. *Longobard (1.96)
3. Viking + Longobard (1.96)
4. Longobard (4.596)
5. Viking Icelandic + Longobard (4.692)
6. Viking (6.252)
7. Viking Icelandic (9.019)

Norwegian
1. *Longobard (3.488)
2. Viking + Longobard (2.606)
3. Longobard (3.488)
4. Viking + Saxon (3.669)
5. Viking (6.073)
6. Saxon (8.222)

Danish
1. *Viking (3.373)
2. *Celt (3.373)
3. Viking + Celt (3.373)
4. Celt + Saxon (3.392)
5. Viking (4.971)
6. Saxon (6.432)
7. Celt (6.986)

[Benyzero]

Hungarian
1. *Gaul (5.528)
2. *Avar (5.528)
3. Gaul + Avar (5.528)
4. Scythian + Avar (5.947)
5. Scythian (7.983)
6. Avar (12.54)
7. Gaul (13.91)

What this means? Is Gaul distance 13.91 or 5.528 in this case?

have to be a miss

[Nurzat]

Romanian
1. *Greco-Bactrian (6.925)
2. *Gaul (6.925)
3. Greco-Bactrian + Gaul (6.925)
4. Greco-Bactrian + Roman (10.36)
5. Greco-Bactrian (11.86)
6. Gaul (12.9)
7. Roman (14.95)

Ukraine
1. *Kievan Rus (6.81)
2. Avar + Kievan Rus (5.034)
3. Scythian + Avar (5.229)
4. Kievan Rus (6.81)
5. Avar (7.432)
6. Scythian (9.509)

I've logged in today to see the update, I don't get the Bactrian stuff at all. no Roman or Hellenic either. so maybe northeast Romanians don't get these at all, but Scythian/Kievan Rus' instead.

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/72254052_1905449296268104_7714404761386090496_n.jp g?_nc_cat=111&_nc_oc=AQkolOpQ0U1bwqvz4eWyI8iGvlkXYHta0ZH9Eqo1cHt 4Dm65LjnSYPbwwGfRSwShiSw&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=58c97f479d87b92ee7850d5799c73c0e&oe=5E374396

[Bakha]

Uzbek, Tajik?

[harutsafaryan07]

Armenian
1. *Hittite (19.69)
2. Pontic + Hittite (16.82)
3. Hellenic Roman + Hittite (18.42)
4. Hittite (19.69)
5. Hellenic Roman (21.18)
6. Pontic (22.13)

Armenian looks about right , my wife is Armenian her results are below ...

Oszkar wife
Pontic + Hittite (17.95)
Hellenic Roman + Hittite (20.85)
Hittite (21.71)
Pontic (22.01)
Hellenic Roman (22.57)Thanks quite interesting

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[Moje ime]

The question is how significant this ancestry was, a matching sample means it was present, but how close, that could differs in each population.

If second number is correct then everybody gets Gauls from 10-13 distance. Interesting is who gets Gauls - Hungarians, Serbs, Bosnians, Bulgarians. While Croats, Slovenians, Czech, Poles etc get Avars.

[Benyzero]

here is mine

https://i.imgur.com/mcI6ACP.png

[Zoro]

Uzbek, Tajik?

They have Alan-Tajikistan but it shows up for some Iranics and is hidden for other Iranics. It shows up in my Kurdish relatives map but is hidden for me and it maybe hidden for you but they show it on the Asia map as a dot in the NE of Afghanistan as 100 BC

https://i.imgur.com/dYuOdM0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Rn7TRP1.jpg

[Zoro]

Do they even have the Scythian samples from Asia or are they all the Hungarian Scythian samples? I assume the Europeans are getting the Hungarian scythians in their map

[Kyp]

Azeri
Ottoman + Alan (18.38) (lol)

[Zoro]

Azeri
Ottoman + Alan (18.38) (lol)

I get Ottoman but not Alan unless it’s one of the hidden samples. Can you post a map of where it’s located

[oszkar07]

Tadjik
1. *Ottoman (6.003)
2. *Ghaznavid (6.003)
3. Ottoman + Ghaznavid (6.003)
4. Hun + Ghaznavid (10.57)
5. Ghaznavid (13.36)
6. Ottoman (21.2)
7. Hun (21.5)

Uzbeki
1. *Ottoman (20.38)
2. Hun + Ottoman (15.32)
3. Ottoman (20.38)
4. Hun (21.79)

Turkmen
1. *Ottoman (7.986)
2. *Ghaznavid (7.986)
3. Ottoman + Ghaznavid (7.986)
4. Seleucid + Ghaznavid (11.78)
5. Ottoman (14.13)
6. Ghaznavid (20.53)
7. Seleucid (21.82)

Tatar
1. *Sarmatian (10.79)
2. *Cimmerian (10.79)
3. Sarmatian + Cimmerian (10.79)
4. Sarmatian + Hun (12.32)
5. Sarmatian (16.16)
6. Hun (16.74)
7. Cimmerian (17.89)

Selkup
1. *Hun (24.35)
2. *Mongol Horde (24.35)
3. Hun + Mongol Horde (24.35)
4. Mongol Horde + Cimmerian (25.39)

Azeri
1. *Pontic (17.81)
2. Ottoman + Pontic (15.85)
3. Pontic (17.81)
4. Seleucid + Ottoman (17.89)
5. Seleucid (19.41)
6. Ottoman (20.79)

[oszkar07]

here is mine

https://i.imgur.com/mcI6ACP.png

My current one
https://i.imgur.com/E0qXFjO.jpg?1

My older one before update
https://i.imgur.com/896jPpo.jpg?1

[Kyp]

I get Ottoman but not Alan unless it’s one of the hidden samples. Can you post a map of where it’s located

Northwest Caucasus

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Gauls ... even Romanians,Bosnians and Serbs get them , but looks like they dont cluster closely with Croats and Slovenes.
I wouldnt expect Hungary to get them in closest position.

Yep, I get the same:

Greco-Bactrian + Gaul (10.23)
Gaul + Roman (11.44)
Gaul (13.39)
Roman (15.26)
Greco-Bactrian (15.53)

Gf:

Greco-Bactrian + Gaul (12.16)
Greco-Bactrian + Roman (13.22)
Greco-Bactrian (15.54)
Roman (15.86)
Gaul (16.29)

I don't know what the Thracians/Dacians were but it seems that they were close enough to Celts.

[marco]

Canary islands

[IrisSelene]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191013/efb71d88ceead36b85e605a0b34dd86e.jpg

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[Coastal Elite]

https://i.imgur.com/55sUFHM.jpg