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Tooting Carmen
10-07-2019, 11:48 AM
N.B. Only posting ethnic French here.

Mathilde Androuet
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/088ce6_a91ce56136c73de4227a8dcc788e67e1.jpg/v1/fill/w_305,h_305,al_c,q_80,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/088ce6_a91ce56136c73de4227a8dcc788e67e1.webp

Manon Aubry
https://lafranceinsoumise.fr/app/uploads/2018/12/photo_2018-12-07_14-05-28-816x1024.jpg

Sylvie Brunet
https://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr/provence-alpes-cote-d-azur/sites/regions_france3/files/styles/top_big/public/assets/images/2017/05/12/maxnewsworldfour043411-3051979.jpg?itok=5-iAxNd9

Nathalie Colin-Oesterlé
https://www.lasemaine.fr/wp-content/uploads/20170126-Conseil-Municipal-Metz-Colin-e1553791693770.jpg

Laurence Despaux-Farreng
https://images.larepubliquedespyrenees.fr/2015/03/02/56815772a43f5e4d408e8aa4/golden/1000x625/laurence-despaux-a-47-ans.jpg

Catherine Griset
https://rassemblementnational.fr/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Catherine-griset.jpg

Sylvie Guillaume
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/Sylvie_Guillaume%2C_D%C3%A9put%C3%A9e_europ%C3%A9e nne_-_septembre_2018_01_%28cropped%29.jpg/800px-Sylvie_Guillaume%2C_D%C3%A9put%C3%A9e_europ%C3%A9e nne_-_septembre_2018_01_%28cropped%29.jpg

Valérie Hayer
https://mvistatic.com/photosmvi/2019/01/09/P19048811D3618714G_px_640_.jpg

Irene Tolleret
http://www.letarnlibre.com/static/img/2019/04/15/photo_2019_04_10_22.39.00.jpeg
Dna8
10-07-2019, 11:52 AM
Only

https://www.lasemaine.fr/wp-content/uploads/20170126-Conseil-Municipal-Metz-Colin-e1553791693770.jpg

strikes me as Italic.
Seya
10-07-2019, 11:55 AM
Spain by far
Tooting Carmen
10-07-2019, 12:07 PM
Spain by far

How come?
Seya
10-07-2019, 12:08 PM
How come?

All of them look spanish...non of them look specifically italian
Tooting Carmen
10-07-2019, 12:17 PM
Only

https://www.lasemaine.fr/wp-content/uploads/20170126-Conseil-Municipal-Metz-Colin-e1553791693770.jpg

strikes me as Italic.

Why specifically her and not the others?
Tooting Carmen
10-07-2019, 12:19 PM
Please don't forget to vote.
Tooting Carmen
10-07-2019, 06:03 PM
bump
kattleen
10-07-2019, 06:06 PM
They look French. France has some dark haired CM population. They are good looking people though.
Tenma de Pegasus
10-07-2019, 06:09 PM
More spanish
Dna8
10-07-2019, 09:42 PM
Why specifically her and not the others?

I perceive the other subjects as all tantamount to fluent Iberian aesthetics.
Tenma de Pegasus
10-08-2019, 06:32 AM
Of all, Catherine Griset, Laurence Despaux and Sylvie Brunet are the most iberian looking.
chociprasa
10-08-2019, 07:22 AM
Spain.
WeirdLookingFellow
10-08-2019, 08:12 AM
Spain
renaissance12
10-08-2019, 09:13 AM
Both.. i can see many women like them even in Trentino and Veneto..
Ikiru
10-08-2019, 11:03 AM
Manon Aubry is Corsican i.e. ethnically Italian. The rest looks more Spanish.
Dna8
10-08-2019, 10:23 PM
Manon Aubry is Corsican i.e. ethnically Italian. The rest looks more Spanish.

Interesting.. I do believe that I had her perceived as the second most Italian looking member of the set.
The Blade
10-16-2019, 07:08 PM
Spain.
Tooting Carmen
10-21-2019, 05:49 PM
bump
Samnium
10-21-2019, 05:55 PM
You are sure that some of these are not from southwest France ? If it was the case it wouldn't be surprising at all.
Tooting Carmen
10-21-2019, 05:59 PM
You are sure that some of these are not from southwest France ? If it was the case it wouldn't be surprising at all.

Maybe some are, not most though.

EDIT: I looked them up again, and only Despaux-Farreng is from Occitania. The rest are from all over France.
Rouxinol
11-21-2019, 09:03 PM
These ones look closer to Spain.
Dna8
11-21-2019, 11:18 PM
These ones look closer to Spain.

May I ask you something, why did you go with, These, instead of, They?
Rouxinol
11-22-2019, 09:11 AM
May I ask you something, why did you go with, These, instead of, They?

Interesting question. Perhaps because there are others who resemble Italians more than the ones posted hence why I did go with "these".
dududud
11-22-2019, 09:17 AM
Looks Western.
21993
11-22-2019, 09:22 AM
Both in equal measure. My first guess would still be French rather than Italian or Spanish.
Samnium
11-22-2019, 09:29 AM
Looks Western.Of course. The most atypical would be Manon Aubry (write his name on google).
dududud
11-22-2019, 01:59 PM
Of course. The most atypical would be Manon Aubry (write his name on google).

Origine : Aubry est un nom de famille qui est un ancien nom de bapteme d'origine germanique derive d'albaric, issu de la racine alb qui signifie blanc et ric qui signifie puissant il s'agit a l'origine d'un surnom de chef de guerre des goths .



Yes it's French.
Samnium
11-22-2019, 03:25 PM
Origine : Aubry est un nom de famille qui est un ancien nom de bapteme d'origine germanique derive d'albaric, issu de la racine alb qui signifie blanc et ric qui signifie puissant il s'agit a l'origine d'un surnom de chef de guerre des goths .



Yes it's French.

Write hi name + surname you would find other pictures of him.

She just looks 100% iberian otherwise I can see her fit in France without a lot of problems.
Roy
11-22-2019, 03:31 PM
These ones more Spanish out of the two, albeit there are some that have a screaming French look to them.
Tooting Carmen
11-22-2019, 05:23 PM
albeit there are some that have a screaming French look to them.

Which ones?
Dna8
11-22-2019, 07:44 PM
Interesting question. Perhaps because there are others who resemble Italians more than the ones posted hence why I did go with "these".

I was just being scandalous.
Ouistreham
11-23-2019, 01:58 AM
"Spain by far"
How come?

Because Italy is ethnically a low pressure area, while Spain is the opposite.

Just look at the maps: in France, there are Iberian ethnicities (Basques, Catalans) on the French side of the mountains.

On the other hand, Italy has been struggling for centuries to reach the Alpine ridge.
The nominally Italian Alps were occupied by French (Vallée d'Aoste), Occitan (Western Piedmont), German (Südtirol), Rhaeto-Romance an Slavic populations.
Except for the Ticino region, that —ironically but significantly— ended up under Swiss sovereignty.

For a hundred years (1860 to 1960 toughly) Italy experienced an explosive demographic growth and exported migrants by millions to France (in addition to Brasil, Argentina, USA) but for most of its history Italy imported much more people from abroad than the other way round. Even in Roman times.

After the fall of the Roman Empire a Basque superstrate extended for a time from Spain to SW France (Aquitania) and had a genetic impact on that area. Nothing similar took place coming from Italy.
In the past 1500 years France has undergone a continuous process of Mediterraneization, mainly from Spain.

Granted, a region like Provence is nowadays ethnically more Italian than anything, but the change didn't take place prior to the year 1900. Iberia was for a much longer time much more influential.
Tooting Carmen
11-23-2019, 04:50 AM
In the past 1500 years France has undergone a continuous process of Mediterraneization, mainly from Spain.

Granted, a region like Provence is nowadays ethnically more Italian than anything, but the change didn't take place prior to the year 1900. Iberia was for a much longer time much more influential.

I thought it was the opposite - the indigenous Gauls were mostly a brunette population, and the Franks were the ones who introduced more fair pigmentation and Germanic traits to France.
Tooting Carmen
04-04-2021, 12:00 PM
Missing photos:

Manon Aubry
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1348996679740104705/oRAl9ul4.jpg

Nathalie Colin-Oesterlé
https://multimedia.europarl.europa.eu/documents/20143/32878827/20190604_COLIN_OESTERLE_Nathalie_FR_10_RESIZED_S.J PG