Is it possible to Racial Break Down MDLP K23b

[altaic]

Mongoloid : Tungus-Altaic + Amerindian + East_Siberian + Paleo_Siberian + Austronesian + Arctic
Australoid : Australoid + South Indian(75% of Australoid and 25% of Caucasoid)

Above break down is accurate? If yes, how is the remaining?


All Components:

Amerindian
Ancestral_Altaic
South_Central_Asian
Arctic -
South_Indian
Australoid
Austronesian
Caucasian
Archaic_Human
East_African
East_Siberian
European_Early_Farmers
Khoisan
Melano_Polynesian
Archaic_African
Near_East
North_African
Paleo_Siberian
African_Pygmy
South_East_Asian
Subsaharian
Tungus-Altaic
European_Hunters_Gatherers


I am just curios since this calculator is one of the most popular one that has also more components compare to the other major calculators.

Thanks in advance

[Trouble]

These categories don't make sense. Siberians/Amerindians are genetically quite distinct from east asians and south indians are very distinct from Oceanians.

[altaic]

These categories don't make sense. Siberians/Amerindians are genetically quite distinct from east asians and south indians are very distinct from Oceanians.

I am not an expert that is why I opened this topic to know more about it. You might be right.
There is a similar topic here with Dodecad https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?301814-Post-your-racial-breakdown-in-Dodecad-K12b&highlight=Australoid

[Trouble]

I am not an expert that is why I opened this topic to know more about it. You might be right.
There is a similar topic here with Dodecad https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?301814-Post-your-racial-breakdown-in-Dodecad-K12b&highlight=Australoid

That OP is clueless, he doesn't know what he's on about.

[Leto]

All Components:

Amerindian
Ancestral_Altaic
South_Central_Asian
Arctic -
South_Indian
Australoid
Austronesian
Caucasian
Archaic_Human
East_African
East_Siberian
European_Early_Farmers
Khoisan
Melano_Polynesian
Archaic_African
Near_East
North_African
Paleo_Siberian
African_Pygmy
South_East_Asian
Subsaharian
Tungus-Altaic
European_Hunters_Gatherers
Green - some sort of Europoid/Caucasoid
Red - some sort of Mongoloid
Black - some sort of Negroid
Orange - Australian and South Asian

But it's all oversimplified. For example the Amerindian has little to do with the East Asian.

[Leto]

That OP is clueless, he doesn't know what he's on about.
Who are you? Registered last month.

[Trouble]

"sample": "Australian:Average",
"fit": 50.4488,
"Piramalai": 100,

"sample": "Papuan:Average",
"fit": 70.0136,
"Piramalai": 100,

These distances are massive. Meanwhile the distance from the typical south Indian to an Iranian is much closer.

"sample": "Iranian_Fars:Average",
"fit": 28.2766,
"Piramalai": 100,

I doubt many people would agree to put south indians into the same category as west asians.

[Leto]

"sample": "Australian:Average",
"fit": 50.4488,
"Piramalai": 100,

"sample": "Papuan:Average",
"fit": 70.0136,
"Piramalai": 100,

These distances are massive. Meanwhile the distance from the typical south Indian to an Iranian is much closer.

"sample": "Iranian_Fars:Average",
"fit": 28.2766,
"Piramalai": 100,

I doubt many people would agree to put south indians into the same category as west asians.
Please show the difference between Tungus people (Siberians), Native Americans and the Chinese.

[Trouble]

Please show the difference between Tungus people (Siberians), Native Americans and the Chinese.

Yeah sure. These are the distances from G25. I dont know how formal stats will stack up but I think it's a good way to judge distances between modern pops at least.

Sample Evenk
1 Amerindian_North:Average 39.5999
2 Dai:Average 36.0728
3 Han:Average 31.6112
4 Mixtec:Average 50.8994


Sample Mixtec
1 Dai:Average 53.3665
2 Evenk:Average 49.6055
3 Han:Average 51.182

In fact the Chinese appear to be closer to Andaman islanders than amerinds:

"sample": "Han:Average",
"fit": 33.011,
"IND_Great_Andamanese_100BP": 100,

"sample": "Dai:Average",
"fit": 31.5289,
"IND_Great_Andamanese_100BP": 100,

[Thambi]

"sample": "Australian:Average",
"fit": 50.4488,
"Piramalai": 100,

"sample": "Papuan:Average",
"fit": 70.0136,
"Piramalai": 100,

These distances are massive. Meanwhile the distance from the typical south Indian to an Iranian is much closer.

"sample": "Iranian_Fars:Average",
"fit": 28.2766,
"Piramalai": 100,

I doubt many people would agree to put south indians into the same category as west asians.

I'd take the large distances with a grain of salt tbh.

For example, south indians plot closer to hazaras than either han chinese or iranians do to them. I find that odd.

https://i.imgur.com/rcaA0Es.png
https://i.imgur.com/mKni5bG.png

[Trouble]

I'd take the large distances with a grain of salt tbh.

For example, south indians plot closer to hazaras than either han chinese or iranians do to them. I find that odd.

https://i.imgur.com/rcaA0Es.png
https://i.imgur.com/mKni5bG.png

No that makes perfect sense actually. Both have similar levels of ENA vs. west Eurasian. It's just the source of ENA is different.

[Leto]

Yeah sure. These are the distances from G25. I dont know how formal stats will stack up but I think it's a good way to judge distances between modern pops at least.

Sample Evenk
1 Amerindian_North:Average 39.5999
2 Dai:Average 36.0728
3 Han:Average 31.6112
4 Mixtec:Average 50.8994


Sample Mixtec
1 Dai:Average 53.3665
2 Evenk:Average 49.6055
3 Han:Average 51.182

In fact the Chinese appear to be closer to Andaman islanders than amerinds:

"sample": "Han:Average",
"fit": 33.011,
"IND_Great_Andamanese_100BP": 100,

"sample": "Dai:Average",
"fit": 31.5289,
"IND_Great_Andamanese_100BP": 100,
Is 39 a big distance? Are the Amerindians actually 'mongoloid' racially?

[Trouble]

Is 39 a big distance? Are the Amerindians actually 'mongoloid' racially?

Yeah it’s big. I think they deserve their own separate category. Same goes for Australoids, who should be limited to Oceanians.