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PaleoEuropean
10-09-2019, 04:09 AM
Y: I2a1b-L161.1:
Considered the main Neolithic lineage of Britain, associated with Doggerland and the coasts of Northern Europe, has been found as far away as Mongolia. I lack the British SNP's and my lineage is more associated with Scandinavians or Germans. Most associated ethnicities: Angles, Danish, English, German, Frisian, Irish, Jutish,Norwegian, Saxon and Scottish.
Mtdna: H2a1: Considered one of the first Indo-Aryan lineages to reach Europe, roots associated with: Armenians, Indians, Egyptians and Gulf Arabs. It is most often found in Northern Europe and among Slavic groups. It most likely arrived with G, R1a and J Y lines. My particular clade is associated with Scandinavia and Great Britain but was probably introduced by contact with Slavs like the Wends.

MercifulServant
10-09-2019, 04:12 AM
What can we say about the origins of G-L497?
One ancient DNA sample from Mitterkirchen Austria (grave I-8), from the Early Iron Age Hallstatt Culture c. 700 BCE, published by Kiesslich et al. (2009), has a 12 STR haplotype that *may* match various G-Z725s (G-L497s) , although it also may match some G-Z1903s or even G-PF3359s.
The Hallstatt Culture was almost certainly Celtic

Basically the OG celts.

Oghuz
10-09-2019, 04:20 AM
J2 or J-M172 is the symbol of iranic plateau. It may have originated in this region 24000 years ago. It's widespread in caucus and Western Asia.

I associate it with east med phenotype.

RenaRyuguu
10-09-2019, 04:21 AM
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Kyp
10-09-2019, 09:35 AM
R1a-z93 (originated somewhere between Eastern-Europe and the Eurasian Steppe.
Is said to be associated with Early Indo-Iranics (Aryans, Scythians/Saka)
Brought to Azerbaijan by Early Indo-Iranics (Medes) and Scythians & Turks (to a lesser extent) afterwards
Highest frequency occuring in Kyrgyzistan.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-75LFC2DbVTQ/U0pzZpEe2QI/AAAAAAAAAU4/-KnlCxo9SkM/w746-h408-no/Underhill_Z93.png

Bakha
10-09-2019, 10:04 AM
E-V13. I heard its genuine Turkic ish.

farke1
10-09-2019, 10:20 AM
Y: R1b-L21. I don't want to post the exact subclade here as googling it links back to my family surname, but it seems to be directly linked to Northwestern Ireland and my exact clade was (allegedly, according to sources I've found on the internet, so they could be questionable) carried by the Gaelic chiefs of Uí Maine. This would make sense as my surname has a strong association with that kingdom. I'd like to think this means I'm descended from distant Irish royalty from 800 years ago, but in reality it's simply more likely that we shared common ancestors; especially as I've not found any evidence online of my specific subclade being found anywhere outside of Ireland or New World countries with a large Irish diaspora.

mtDNA: U5a1a1b. I don't know much about this haplogroup, except that the Scaled Innovation tracker (http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html) seems to think it originated in Medieval Sweden. There's also some cool stuff on Eupedia about how carrying haplogroup U influences your brain pH, which in turn confers protection against degenerative mental diseases (https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_U5_mtDNA.shtml#health); but that sounds like the sort of thing that could also be complete bullshit. Oh well.

IrisSelene
10-09-2019, 10:24 AM
Idk only that mines a North euroasian haplo but nowadays it's mostly seen in Central Europe, aka Germany. U5b2a2

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Zroota
10-10-2019, 06:04 AM
R1b-M269

https://indo-european.eu/tag/r1b-m269/

Way too much to read from there and I am a bit lazy now. Something about Proto Indo Europeans, Yamnaya peoples and whatnot.

Can people summarise my one?

PaleoEuropean
10-10-2019, 11:12 PM
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Daos777
10-10-2019, 11:28 PM
E-V13 https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191010/42b3fe44b93747a68bf1db5a2c28a3cc.jpg

Jana
10-10-2019, 11:30 PM
Looks like my mtdna is Germanic (by deep origin Bell Beaker), and my paternal Y-DNA is Slavic (by deep origin mesolithic Euro).

Dick
10-10-2019, 11:37 PM
Baltic tribes

Coastal Elite
10-10-2019, 11:39 PM
E-V13: Your haplogroup migrated in large numbers from the Balkans into Europe about 4,500 years ago, triggered by the beginning of the Balkan Bronze Age. During this migration, members of your haplogroup mainly followed rivers connecting the southern Balkans to northern-central Europe. Technological leaps often cause lineages to grow dramatically in numbers and in geographic range. The development of Bronze technology may have given men in your lineage a competitive advantage over other men, causing your lineage to proliferate and become widespread.

MercifulServant
10-10-2019, 11:45 PM
Baltic tribes

:rotfl:

Kaspias
10-10-2019, 11:47 PM
Q-L330 is Hunnic.
H2a2a1 is Proto-Bulgar.

Dick
10-10-2019, 11:48 PM
:rotfl:

I meant Balkan tribes

Oneeye
10-10-2019, 11:52 PM
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IrisSelene
10-10-2019, 11:56 PM
Haplogroup U5

The age of U5 is estimated at between 25,000 and 35,000 years old, roughly corresponding to theGravettianculture. Approximately 11% of Europeans (10% of European-Americans) have some variant of haplogroup U5.

U5 has been found in human remains dating from the Mesolithic in England, Germany, Lithuania, Poland, Portugal, Russia, Sweden, France and Spain.
Neolithic skeletons (~7,000 years old) that were excavated from the Avellaner cave inCatalonia, northeasternSpainincluded a specimen carrying haplogroup U5.

Haplogroup U5 and its subclades U5a and U5b today form the highest population concentrations in the far north, amongSami,Finns, andEstonians. However, it is spread widely at lower levels throughout Europe. This distribution, and the age of the haplogroup, indicate individuals belonging to this clade were part of the initial expansion tracking the retreat of ice sheets from Europe around 10,000 years ago.

Additionally, haplogroup U5 is found in small frequencies and at much lower diversity in the Near East and parts of northern Africa (areas with sizable U6 concentrations), suggesting back-migration of people from Europe toward the south.

Mitochondrial haplogroup U5a has also been associated withHIVinfected individuals displaying accelerated progression toAIDSand death.

U5 was the main haplogroup of mesolithic European hunter gatherers. U haplogroups were present at 83% in European hunter gatherers before influx of Middle Eastern farmer and steppe Indo-European ancestry decreased its frequency to less than 21%.


U5barose between 19,000 and 26,000 years ago and has polymorphisms in 150 7768 14182 ( + U5 polymorphisms). Found amongSiwa Berbers of theSiwa Oasis.

U5b2a2between 7,000 and 14,000 years ago, descendants U5b2a2a, U5b2a2b, U5b2a2c. Frequent in Central Europe, U5b2a2a1 especially in Poland.

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RenaRyuguu
10-10-2019, 11:57 PM
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WhatsGoingOnBigGuy
10-11-2019, 12:04 AM
YDNA = R-Z92

All I really know is that it's a typical Balto-Slavic lineage.

mtDNA = J1c3

23andme's description:

"Your maternal line stems from a branch of haplogroup J called J1c3. Haplogroup J1c3 is a relatively young branch of J that traces back to a woman who lived approximately 9,000 years ago. Her ancestors migrated into Europe from the Middle East as the Ice Age receded between 14,000 and 11,000 years ago. While J1c3 already existed in the west before the spread of agriculture, it likely expanded along with the farming populations as they moved west across the continent.

Today, J1c3 is found almost exclusively within Europe, and researchers speculate that the traces of J1c3 in the Middle East are due to eastward migrations of people much later in human history."

Kamal900
10-11-2019, 12:10 AM
Ahh, shieet. Here we go again. My mtDNA haplogroup, U3, originated in what is now the near east more than 30,000 years ago. Um, well, the highest frequencies of such haplogroup is found in the near east while those in Europe tend to be much more lower:


There are isolated pockets in the Near East where U3 occurs at a very high percentage of the population; U3 makes up 16% of the Adegei in the Northern Caucasus, about 18% of Iraqi Jews around Baghdad, 39% of Jordaneans of the Dead Sea Valley, 11% of the Qashqai in Southwest Iran (note these people speak a dialect closely related to Azerbaijani of the Caucasus) 17% in one study of Luri in the Western Zagros, 12% on the Greek island of Rhodes and also among the Romani (Gypsies) of Poland, Lithuania and Spain where percentages vary from nearly 40% to as high as 55%.

In Europe U3 is still common in Bulgaria and the eastern most islands of the Mediterranean Sea, Cyprus, Rhodes, Crete, where percentages rise to 3 or 4 percent, but becomes rarer and rarer as one moves west with one exception. Again Bulgaria, the Greek mainland and Etruscan Italy are dominated by U3b, whereas the Mediterranean Islands and the rest of Italy have all three subclades.
https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/mt-dnau3/about/background

I've heard that many of the ancient Thracian samples also belong to the U3 haplogroup as well.

Coastal Elite
10-11-2019, 12:42 AM
Some additional promotional material from my haplogroup

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Dna8
10-11-2019, 12:49 AM
Nice thread, bro.

Dna8
10-11-2019, 12:50 AM
Sorry I don't have anything to contribute.. I'm trying to get tested but they keep sending back my samples.

Mortimer
10-11-2019, 12:52 AM
E-V13

Balkan Neolithic. Arrived to Balkans with neolithic expansion. Arrived to western europe with roman soldiers.

Daos777
10-11-2019, 01:01 AM
E-V13 in Western Europe predates Romans. It spread with the indo-Europeans assimilating Balkanites.

Assimilation of Neolithic European E-V13 by the Indo-Europeans

For many years the vast majority of academics have assumed that E-V13 and other E1b1b lineages came to the Balkans from the southern Levant via Anatolia during the Neolithic, and that the high frequency of E-V13 was caused by a founder effect among the colonisers. This theory has it that E1b1b people were associated with the development of Neolithic lifestyle and the advent of agriculture in the Fertile Crescent and its earliest diffusion to Southeast Europe (Thessalian Neolithic) and Mediterranean Europe (Cardium Pottery culture). The testing of ancient DNA from the Natufian culture (Mesolithic Levant) and Pre-Pottery Neolithic Levant confirmed a high incidence of haplogroup E1b1b in that region. However, out of 69 Y-DNA samples tested from Neolithic Europe, only two belonged to that haplogroup: one E-M78 from the Sopot culture in Hungary (5000-4800 BCE), another E-M78 (c. 5000 BCE), possibly E-V13, from north-east Spain, and a E-L618 from Zemunica cave near Split in Croatia from 5500 BCE (Fernandes et al., 2016). Whether these E-M78 samples came with Neolithic farmers from the Near East or were already present among Mesolithic Europeans is unclear at present. But in any case E-V13 was definitely not the major Neolithic European lineage it was once alleged to be.

Nowadays E-V13 is the only Mediterranean haplogroup consistently found throughout Europe, even in Norway, Sweden, Finland and Baltic countries, which are conspicuous by the absence of other Neolithic haplogroups like G2a (bar the Indo-European G2a-Z1815), J1 and T (except in Estonia). However, since G2a is the only lineage that was consistently found in all Neolithic sites tested to date in Europe, the absence of Neolithic G2a lineages from Scandinavia and the Baltic implies that no Neolithic lineage survives there, and consequently E-V13 does not date from the Neolithic in the region.

In fact, it has been calculated that E-V13 emerged from E-M78 some 7,800 years ago, when Neolithic farmers were advancing into the Balkans and the Danubian basin.


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