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safinator
07-18-2011, 12:18 PM
Russian tennis player (193 cm)

http://www.civisonline.it/public/Image/sport/novembre%2009/safin.jpg
http://gototennis.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Marat_Safin_Bercy_2.jpg
http://i2.sinaimg.cn/ty/news/en/2009-10-06/U2407P675T32D132F612DT20091006141256.jpg
http://www.radurestivan.ro/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/marat_safin_4.jpg
http://img.skysports.com/08/07/800x600/maratsafin_998224.jpg
http://images.teamtalk.com/08/01/800x600/800_Marat_Safin_Australian_Open_2008_rd_2_woe_6232 22.jpg

Gamera
07-18-2011, 12:45 PM
He gives me an Italian vibe.

GeistFaust
07-18-2011, 05:14 PM
Noric + Balto-CroMagnon

Absinthe
07-18-2011, 07:36 PM
East nordid/minor baltid/CM I'd say. Not sure I still got the skill though. :p

Pallantides
07-18-2011, 07:38 PM
He is a Tatar.

Safin was born in Moscow, USSR (now Russia) to a Tatar family of father Mikhail Alexeivich Safin and mother Rausa Islanova. He speaks Russian, English, and Spanish as well as his native Tatar. His parents are former tennis players and coaches.

GeistFaust
07-18-2011, 07:41 PM
I am in question over East Nordic I was thinking that but his forehead is not as high and broad as an East Nordic its more sloped and narrowed out his nose looks more Noric form and does not have that very Leptomorphic Iranoform nose the East Nordics possess plus the other thing he looks far more robust and less gracile than the average East Nordic.

safinator
07-19-2011, 10:35 AM
Tatars look like Safin?

Alano
07-19-2011, 11:37 AM
Tatars look like Safin?

yes especially volga(kazan) tatars

another famous tatar"marat izmailov"
http://www.google.de/search?q=marat+izmailov&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=de&tab=wi&biw=1333&bih=638

safinator
07-19-2011, 02:55 PM
His sister:

http://www.dinarasafina.com/mv/mvblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/dinaralossinmiami309.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Dinara_Safina_2007_Australian_Open_womens_doubles_ R1.jpg
http://images.teamtalk.com/08/09/800x600/Allsport-Dinara-Safina-Celeb-Day-10-US-Open_1167350.jpg
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/23500000/WTA-wta-23537893-843-1000.jpg

Austrvegr
07-19-2011, 03:25 PM
Most Kazan Tatars (I would say 90%) show signs of Asian admixture. Marat Safin is one of the 10% who do not.

Geronimo
04-04-2012, 01:53 PM
He lacks both skull height and head length to be nordid. He's very long-faced but that's not a nordid trait only. My classification for the guy would be Dinarid/Balto-Cromagnon with a possible nordid influence.

I can see a certain resemblance between him and myself, the difference is that I'm more robust and lighter.

chaser
04-04-2012, 02:03 PM
He lacks both skull height and head length to be nordid. He's very long-faced but that's not a nordid trait only. My classification for the guy would be Dinarid/Balto-Cromagnon with a possible nordid influence.

I can see a certain resemblance between him and myself, the difference is that I'm more robust and lighter.

LOL.


I'd say Nordid Pontid CM

Geronimo
04-04-2012, 02:10 PM
LOL.


I'd say Nordid Pontid CM

you can LOL as much as you like but he's obviously brachycephalic

http://gototennis.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Marat_Safin_girlfriend.JPG

and a pred. North-Pontid can not be brachy, a north pontid should be mesocephalic close to dolicocephalic, so stick it ... :)

archangel
11-09-2012, 10:12 AM
ı guess he is north pontid with some minor nordid and turanid.ı think ı look like him a bit lol cos ı heard this before afterall he is an ethnic Tatar so he is Türkic like me lol :)

Zmey Gorynych
11-09-2012, 11:41 AM
ı guess he is north pontid with some minor nordid and turanid.ı think ı look like him a bit lol cos ı heard this before afterall he is an ethnic Tatar so he is Türkic like me lol :)
He has no turanid, despite being a tatar phenotypically he looks like a regular south russian. Austrvegr already said that he shows no asian admix.

Partizan
11-09-2012, 11:49 AM
His sister looks rather Uralid+Alpine.

He looks North Pontid+slight Dinarid to me.

aherne
11-09-2012, 12:40 PM
Aryan (Steppe type) + Pontid (in about equal measure) with strong Dinaric influence. Looks Yugoslavian...

beaver
11-09-2012, 01:18 PM
He is a Tatar.
Yes, Pallantides

archangel
11-09-2012, 07:06 PM
lol yugoslav really? ı mean come on he looks what he is a Tatar

beaver
11-09-2012, 08:31 PM
lol yugoslav really? ı mean come on he looks what he is a Tatar
too complicated logic for me. Safin is just Tatar, true Tatar, real Tatar. The surname is russified - (in)

archangel
06-13-2013, 10:01 AM
Marat have this north euroasian barbarian look,imagine him attacking central europea on horse,would be epic:cool:

sevruk
06-13-2013, 10:58 AM
He is a Tatar.

Safin was born in Moscow, USSR (now Russia) to a Tatar family of father Mikhail Alexeivich Safin and mother Rausa Islanova. He speaks Russian, English, and Spanish as well as his native Tatar. His parents are former tennis players and coaches.



Mikhail Alexeivich? the father's name does not sound Tatar. Seems error.

Swearengen
06-13-2013, 05:39 PM
Safin is the most white looking tatar I've seen. However, his sister is quite tatar looking.

gregorius
06-13-2013, 05:42 PM
He looks tatar like archangel, he has this north eurasian barbarian vibe :D

Swearengen
06-13-2013, 05:42 PM
He has no turanid, despite being a tatar phenotypically he looks like a regular south russian. Austrvegr already said that he shows no asian admix.

his facial hair looks mongoloid. that's about it.

Cristiano viejo
06-13-2013, 05:50 PM
Dinara Safina has mongoloid admixture for sure, so Marat Safin too, obviously.

Proto-Shaman
06-13-2013, 06:36 PM
North Pontid with some minor Nordid and Turanid influences. Typical Scytho-Türk.

Szegedist
06-13-2013, 06:46 PM
Türanid übermensch

ABest
06-13-2013, 06:49 PM
North Pontid + some Noric. Even though he is Tatar, he doesn't look Turanid imo. His sister does have a Turanid element though.

sevruk
06-13-2013, 06:52 PM
there is nothing turanid in he. Turkicized native Eastern Europe.

Proto-Shaman
06-13-2013, 07:10 PM
there is nothing turanid in he.
its called "him".


Turkicized native Eastern Europe.
Does not exist.

aherne
06-14-2013, 11:14 AM
Turanid influence in him is undeniable:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bbwWxQf3VSI/T9EfO623BQI/AAAAAAAAIRw/VYAksNip8Zc/s1600/Marat+Safin+new+pic+2012+02.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRECO9hvi6w-QRtUKjiphO967fa4CTF8ZmNgQzW6sNnvJoldEQ-Hg

Aryan predominance is equally undeniable:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Safin_toronto_2008.jpg/394px-Safin_toronto_2008.jpg
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5020/4454d.jpg

He looks like what he is: a Kazan Tatar...

Proto-Shaman
06-14-2013, 11:16 AM
Turanid influence in him is undeniable:
I think its rather minor Turanid tending to North Pontid.

Matt5898
06-14-2013, 11:36 AM
Lol, his sister is so similar to the current top-5 player Radwanska, take a look:

http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2013/01/20/1226557/749231-agnieszka-radwanska.jpg

http://answers.bettor.com/images/Articles/thumbs/extralarge/Agnieszka-Radwanska-will-get-the-greatest-honour-of-her-life-at-London-Olympics-Tennis-News-174738.jpg

And Safina:

http://img0.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/c/0/38/810/38810752_photo_Safina.jpg

http://i1.tatar-inform.ru/image/2011/4/Dinara_Safina.jpg

Is Radwanska a typical Polish woman?

Swearengen
06-14-2013, 04:39 PM
Lol, his sister is so similar to the current top-5 player Radwanska, take a look:

[IM]http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2013/01/20/1226557/749231-agnieszka-radwanska.jpg[/IMG]

[IM]http://answers.bettor.com/images/Articles/thumbs/extralarge/Agnieszka-Radwanska-will-get-the-greatest-honour-of-her-life-at-London-Olympics-Tennis-News-174738.jpg[/IMG]

And Safina:

[IM]http://img0.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/c/0/38/810/38810752_photo_Safina.jpg[/IMG]

[IM]http://i1.tatar-inform.ru/image/2011/4/Dinara_Safina.jpg[/IMG]

Is Radwanska a typical Polish woman?

Those pictures of Safina don't show her turanid influence like most of her other pictures do. It's pretty clear to me that Safina is turanid and Radwanska isn't. And since Safina is, Marat is too.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0vkmrHtlLUI/SksUJosPvgI/AAAAAAAAAB0/1scWwVL5dkI/s320/Dinara-Safina.bmp

http://cowbell.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83423e30253ef0120a541c36c970c-500wi

Radwanska has a really pronounced brow ridge, but there's nothing turanid about her.

http://img003.lazygirls.info/people/agnieszka_radwanska/agnieszka_radwanska_4agnieszka_radwanska_P4mG9tT.s ized.jpg

Insuperable
06-14-2013, 04:42 PM
He is Volga Tatar. Volga Tatars have very high Eastern European input.

Matt5898
06-14-2013, 05:40 PM
It's pretty clear to me that Safina is turanid and Radwanska isn't. And since Safina is, Marat is too.



Actually Safina is far from average Turanoid. She has some admixture, of course. But so does Radwanska, her share is smaller but still exists. And, Safin, IMHO, has even smaller share than Radwanska.

FrostDragon
06-14-2013, 05:45 PM
Turanid? Is that an European racial type? I'm nod very good in non-European racial types...

sevruk
06-14-2013, 05:57 PM
Those pictures of Safina don't show her turanid influence like most of her other pictures do. It's pretty clear to me that Safina is turanid and Radwanska isn't. And since Safina is, Marat is too.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0vkmrHtlLUI/SksUJosPvgI/AAAAAAAAAB0/1scWwVL5dkI/s320/Dinara-Safina.bmp

http://cowbell.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83423e30253ef0120a541c36c970c-500wi

Radwanska has a really pronounced brow ridge, but there's nothing turanid about her.

http://img003.lazygirls.info/people/agnieszka_radwanska/agnieszka_radwanska_4agnieszka_radwanska_P4mG9tT.s ized.jpg

lol, they look almost identical. But Safina has turanid influence only because Tatar?
in fact, Radwanska even more "turanid", wider nose and more low nose bridge

Swearengen
06-14-2013, 06:44 PM
lol, they look almost identical. But Safina has turanid influence only because Tatar?
in fact, Radwanska even more "turanid", wider nose and more low nose bridge

Safina's features all look more turanid to me. Especially the most obvious feature in all turanids, her cheekbones. As well as her forehead/eye formation and her jaw.

Radwanska might have some turanid too, but I don't see it.

Proto-Shaman
06-14-2013, 10:18 PM
Safina's features all look more turanid to me. Especially the most obvious feature in all turanids, her cheekbones. As well as her forehead/eye formation and her jaw.
I would classify Safina as Uralid/Turanid, since she has this typical far East European vibe.

Proto-Shaman
06-14-2013, 10:22 PM
Turanid? Is that an European racial type? I'm nod very good in non-European racial types...
Turanid belongs to Europid racial type with Mongoloid admixture.

Szegedist
06-14-2013, 10:33 PM
If you watched Märät Säfïn play, you would know that his temper is Türänïc.

gregorius
06-14-2013, 10:34 PM
If you watched Märät Säfïn play, you would know that his temper is Türänïc.

Joe mcenroe is turanic too then

Szegedist
06-14-2013, 10:35 PM
Joe mcenroe is turanic too then

Correct, he is Üralic highlander.

Swearengen
06-14-2013, 10:44 PM
A lot of Russian tennis players have bad tempers. Mikhail Youzhny hit himself in the head with his racquet several times and made himself bleed.

Roy
06-14-2013, 10:47 PM
Actually Safina is far from average Turanoid. She has some admixture, of course. But so does Radwanska, her share is smaller but still exists. And, Safin, IMHO, has even smaller share than Radwanska.

Nope. Radwanska does not look ''Turanid'' at all while Marat does. He is short-headed (brachycephalic) and so his eyes are exotic.

archangel
10-05-2013, 12:27 PM
i change my opinion Marat is Nordid with Türanid influenced a true north euroasian Türkic barbarian:cool:

Corvus
10-05-2013, 12:28 PM
A lot of Russian tennis players have bad tempers. Mikhail Youzhny hit himself in the head with his racquet several times and made himself bleed.

Standard Russian emotions

archangel
03-01-2014, 12:25 PM
my older brotheroid

oh-nahhh
03-01-2014, 01:46 PM
Pontid plus Aryan and Alpine influences.

archangel
04-17-2014, 01:26 PM
Looks north euroasian

Chelubey
12-06-2019, 09:28 AM
Well, I think Marat has some Mongoloid admixture.