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Bakha
10-14-2019, 03:38 AM
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https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/9e400a9932eb03fe445b6bb1437519df/5E220F87/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/c0.107.853.853a/s640x640/62367926_887983224881272_3541808943496057365_n.jpg ?_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=104
http://persianweddingshow.com/uploads/images/full/1979.jpg
https://alchetron.com/cdn/mansour-singer-9d754900-52f7-46d0-90c2-531d33c16da-resize-750.jpeg
http://persianweddingshow.com/uploads/images/full/1975.jpg

Dna8
10-14-2019, 03:41 AM
Reminiscent of Yugoslav aesthetics.

Dick
10-14-2019, 03:43 AM
Horovathos

Bakha
10-14-2019, 03:48 AM
Reminiscent of Yugoslav aesthetics.
Kinda yeah
But he also has Kavkaz aesthetics, reminds me of some abkhasians/ossetians

lameduck
10-14-2019, 03:51 AM
turano pontid

xtal
10-14-2019, 03:56 AM
He looks Caucasian imo. Is he Azeri?

Pater Patota
10-14-2019, 04:00 AM
He also looks Greek.It seems he can pass from Iran/Caucasus to Greece.

Bakha
10-14-2019, 04:03 AM
He looks Caucasian imo. Is he Azeri?
Yes he looks indeed
No he is persian

ciftci
10-14-2019, 04:06 AM
His eyes are too turanid for a Persian. He must have Turkic input for sure. Even I look more Iranic than him.

Oghuz
10-14-2019, 04:06 AM
Very atypical

Pontid altered by Caucasian mixture.

Passes in caspian region only .

Bakha
10-14-2019, 04:10 AM
His eyes are too turanid for a Persian. He must have Turkic input for sure. Even I look more Iranic than him.
Maybe. My ethnic persian cousin on 23andme scores 6% Central Asian. Half central asian me is 7.4%

xtal
10-14-2019, 04:10 AM
Yes he looks indeed
No he is persian

A quick google search and wiki doesn’t say so...
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/f05deeed0baec3153d196d67ee6254a8.jpg

Pater Patota
10-14-2019, 04:10 AM
You're Pontid, you can pass anywhere from Caucasus to Balkan peninsula.

Bakha
10-14-2019, 04:13 AM
A quick google search and wiki doesn’t say so...
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191014/f05deeed0baec3153d196d67ee6254a8.jpg

?? Here is screenshot of my wiki page, dunno why its different:


https://i.ibb.co/vckchdJ/BAEF4065-E1-EC-4-D44-917-D-164-AF6-DE87-D7.jpg (https://ibb.co/Mg7gf1R)

xtal
10-14-2019, 04:15 AM
?? Here is screenshot of my wiki page, dunno why its different:


https://i.ibb.co/vckchdJ/BAEF4065-E1-EC-4-D44-917-D-164-AF6-DE87-D7.jpg (https://ibb.co/Mg7gf1R)

Da fuk?

Zroota
10-14-2019, 05:50 AM
Pontid + CM

Would be handsome without the excessive hair.

Bakha
10-14-2019, 05:53 AM
Pontid + CM

Would be handsome without the excessive hair.
Its not our fault we are hirsute facially

Zroota
10-14-2019, 06:03 AM
Its not our fault we are hirsute facially
We are too, but we try to cut it. Lol

Dna8
10-14-2019, 06:34 AM
But he also has Kavkaz aesthetics, reminds me of some abkhasians/ossetians

Agreed.

Kyp
10-14-2019, 06:48 AM
He looks Caucasian imo. Is he Azeri?


Yes he looks indeed
No he is persian


His eyes are too turanid for a Persian. He must have Turkic input for sure. Even I look more Iranic than him.


Very atypical

Pontid altered by Caucasian mixture.

Passes in caspian region only .

He is Azeri

Asiatic Alpine + Turanid

Scandal
10-14-2019, 08:24 AM
would let him fuck me in the ass NO HOMO.

FinalFlash
10-14-2019, 08:38 AM
would let him fuck me in the ass NO HOMO.

Of course no homo, naturally.

21993
10-14-2019, 08:55 AM
Med+Turanid

Tenma de Pegasus
10-14-2019, 10:47 AM
Ponto-Turanid

He is not good looking, pass in Scandinavia and East Europe. 2/10

This is how normally good looking iranian men look(not being a model).

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTO3tTVFHOOKENg128hyzx3gB98cC_ pbF6w8YlFBo8QSGhPENdR

MustafaTekin
10-14-2019, 10:51 AM
would let him fuck me in the ass NO HOMO.

with or without vaseline :D

archangel
10-14-2019, 11:47 AM
Pontid/Turanid.

Looks more Azeri/Turkish

Kyp
10-14-2019, 05:02 PM
Pontid/Turanid.

Looks more Azeri/Turkish

Because he is

archangel
10-14-2019, 09:13 PM
Because he is
Makes sense my friend

Zeus
10-14-2019, 09:18 PM
He does look Caucasian

Babak
10-18-2019, 08:44 PM
Mansour is azeri. Typical look for azeris anyway

Bakha
10-18-2019, 08:46 PM
Mansour is azeri. Typical look for azeris anyway
Not typical for azerbaijani azeris
Maybe for azeris from Iran

Kyp
10-18-2019, 08:50 PM
Not typical for azerbaijani azeris
Maybe for azeris from Iran

fits in both parts very well
His hairstyle is more iranian music scene influenced though :D

kiko
10-18-2019, 08:50 PM
Iranid + Turanid

xtal
10-18-2019, 08:52 PM
fits in both parts very well
His hairstyle is more iranian music scene influenced though :D

I don’t understand when people assume Azeris from republic look different than Iranian Azeris. They pretty much look identical imo

Bakha
10-18-2019, 08:52 PM
His hairstyle is more iranian music scene influenced though :D
definitely

Babak
10-18-2019, 08:53 PM
I don’t understand when people assume Azeris from republic look different than Iranian Azeris. They pretty much look identical imo

Some do, many give off a caucuses vibe to me:

https://alchetron.com/cdn/azerbaijanis-88cceb00-6a33-4fea-ac11-a7557c6ab7f-resize-750.jpg

Kyp
10-18-2019, 08:57 PM
I don’t understand when people assume Azeris from republic look different than Iranian Azeris. They pretty much look identical imo

Slight difference due to pre-turkic ancient populations. But differences are definetly overrated and very graduent (like everywhere else in the world).

xtal
10-18-2019, 08:58 PM
Some do, many give off a caucuses vibe to me:

https://alchetron.com/cdn/azerbaijanis-88cceb00-6a33-4fea-ac11-a7557c6ab7f-resize-750.jpg

I’ve been to Khoy and Tabriz twice and most of them looked Caucasus even their accent sounded sorta like Georgian to me.

xtal
10-18-2019, 09:04 PM
Slight difference due to pre-turkic ancient populations. But differences are definetly overrated and very graduent (like everywhere else in the world).

It’s definitely caused by the pan Iranian propaganda. Even the genetic studies say that they show affinity to Caucasian populations with some East Asians admixture. Showing Azeris living in Iran as a separate ethnicity, portraying them as an Iranian ethnic group is absolutely stupid.

Kyp
10-18-2019, 09:32 PM
It’s definitely caused by the pan Iranian propaganda. Even the genetic studies say that they show affinity to Caucasian populations with some East Asians admixture. Showing Azeris living in Iran as a separate ethnicity, portraying them as an Iranian ethnic group is absolutely stupid.

Complicated Issue. The Treaty of Turkmenchay fucked everything up for all times probably.

Babak
10-18-2019, 10:04 PM
It’s definitely caused by the pan Iranian propaganda. Even the genetic studies say that they show affinity to Caucasian populations with some East Asians admixture. Showing Azeris living in Iran as a separate ethnicity, portraying them as an Iranian ethnic group is absolutely stupid.

They're basically natives+caucasian+turkic blend.

I asked DMXX on anthrogenica about this issue and this was his answer:

"I don't know the answer to this. We have very circumstantial data from each group separately which may well change if the two are compared against one another.

What we do know is Azeri Iranians are closest to other Iranian populations. The Grugni et al. demonstrated this through one set of uniparental markers (Y-DNA), whilst this study from Tabriz (Asgharzadeh et al. (http://ijb.nigeb.ac.ir/index.php/ijb/article/viewFile/746/319)) shows the same in the other (mtDNA).

In my personal opinion, I suspect there will be some evidence of genetic similarity between Azeri Iranians and those from the Republic, however I anticipate Azeri Iranians to remain closer to other Iranians (particularly those from the northwest given geography such as Kurds, the Talysh, Gilakis) while Republic Azeris will show more of a pull towards other South Caucasians. I do not expect the linguistic connection to be complemented by genetics to the same degree."

xtal
10-18-2019, 10:22 PM
They're basically natives+caucasian+turkic blend.

I asked DMXX on anthrogenica about this issue and this was his answer:

"I don't know the answer to this. We have very circumstantial data from each group separately which may well change if the two are compared against one another.

What we do know is Azeri Iranians are closest to other Iranian populations. The Grugni et al. demonstrated this through one set of uniparental markers (Y-DNA), whilst this study from Tabriz (Asgharzadeh et al. (http://ijb.nigeb.ac.ir/index.php/ijb/article/viewFile/746/319)) shows the same in the other (mtDNA).

In my personal opinion, I suspect there will be some evidence of genetic similarity between Azeri Iranians and those from the Republic, however I anticipate Azeri Iranians to remain closer to other Iranians (particularly those from the northwest given geography such as Kurds, the Talysh, Gilakis) while Republic Azeris will show more of a pull towards other South Caucasians. I do not expect the linguistic connection to be complemented by genetics to the same degree."

As far as I know Kurds and Iranian speakers from Caspian claim Caucasian ancestry. Also Azeris in Iran are scattered throughout norther western parts of Iran which is a bigger geographic area than of the republic of Azerbaijan so definitely Azeris from Hamadan and Zanjan is going to be more closer to neighboring populations (in this case Persians and tats) but the Azeris living in further north south of the Aras river like Marand, Khoy , Ahar, etc are going to be more similar to the Transcaucasian populations.

xtal
10-18-2019, 10:46 PM
Also, funny thing is that studies show that Azeris from republic are closer to Iranian populations and Iranian Azeris are more related to the Caucasians , than they are to other Iranians

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3828245

MustafaTekin
10-18-2019, 10:50 PM
A few weeks ago i was at a wedding, the bride was from kars. we danced halay (or yalli). my question: is this song also popular in northern azerbaijan?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whxGSlqs9Co

Babak
10-18-2019, 11:16 PM
Also, funny thing is that studies show that Azeris from republic are closer to Iranian populations and Iranian Azeris are more related to the Caucasians , than they are to other Iranians

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3828245

Yea I seen that. Not sure which is true tbh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIHVd3F-5uw

Dna8
10-19-2019, 04:38 AM
A few weeks ago i was at a wedding, the bride was from kars. we danced halay (or yalli). my question: is this song also popular in northern azerbaijan?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whxGSlqs9Co

It's reasonably popular in ex Yugo at the moment.

Bakha
10-19-2019, 05:01 AM
A few weeks ago i was at a wedding, the bride was from kars. we danced halay (or yalli). my question: is this song also popular in northern azerbaijan?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whxGSlqs9Co
Great music, makes want to practice my saz baglama more.

Kyp
10-19-2019, 09:12 AM
They're basically natives+caucasian+turkic blend.

I asked DMXX on anthrogenica about this issue and this was his answer:

"I don't know the answer to this. We have very circumstantial data from each group separately which may well change if the two are compared against one another.

What we do know is Azeri Iranians are closest to other Iranian populations. The Grugni et al. demonstrated this through one set of uniparental markers (Y-DNA), whilst this study from Tabriz (Asgharzadeh et al. (http://ijb.nigeb.ac.ir/index.php/ijb/article/viewFile/746/319)) shows the same in the other (mtDNA).

In my personal opinion, I suspect there will be some evidence of genetic similarity between Azeri Iranians and those from the Republic, however I anticipate Azeri Iranians to remain closer to other Iranians (particularly those from the northwest given geography such as Kurds, the Talysh, Gilakis) while Republic Azeris will show more of a pull towards other South Caucasians. I do not expect the linguistic connection to be complemented by genetics to the same degree."

Yes but studies also conclude that Talysh and Tats are closer to Rep. Azeris than to other Iranians. So the truth lies probably somewhere in the middle with graduant differences. Azerbaijanis from the iranian border will be closer together then to other Azeris since the border is a post-imperial artifical one anyway. Furthest away from each other will be North Rep Azerbaijan and Zanjan Azeris (myself). But it shouldn't matter anyway since all are Azerbaijani Turks. Most studies have an iranian or turkic agenda anyway. I don't know why people are so eager to differantiate between all Azerbaijanis. Same could be done for all people of the world. North German is completely different than Southern ones but no one gives a F.