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vbnetkhio
10-31-2019, 07:49 AM
Nurzat
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 2.59 Pct
Basque 0.57 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 9.73 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 8.33 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 14.83 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 13.28 Pct
Fennoscandian 0.73 Pct
French 0.87 Pct
Iberian 12.43 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 17.38 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 4.16 Pct
North_Caucasian 6.25 Pct
North_Sea 4.62 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 2.13 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.47 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 0.59 Pct
you are in the center
https://i.imgur.com/MJZ7YYy.png
vbnetkhio
10-31-2019, 08:03 AM
Add this one too
Polaciones, 0, 1.71, 0, 11.62, 0, 1.40, 0, 0, 5.48, 0, 0, 2.45, 0.98, 0.09, 4.96, 30.25, 0, 13.45, 0, 0, 0.49, 12.96, 0, 6.98, 0, 0, 0.80, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 6.39
https://i.imgur.com/HTjC89t.png
https://i.imgur.com/s5YxQ3p.png
https://i.imgur.com/s5YxQ3p.png
Interesting. Williams is the banned TA member greasycaveman, his mother is an ethnic Russian and his father is a US white from the South. He ended up plotting a little more Western than Ger_East (but more Southern).
vbnetkhio
10-31-2019, 02:17 PM
Interesting. Williams is the banned TA member greasycaveman, his mother is an ethnic Russian and his father is a US white from the South. He ended up plotting a little more Western than Ger_East (but more Southern).
i this case plotting close probably actually means something. Ger_East is also Germanic + Slavic, like him
Add this guy please
idontlikemaconha; 9.37; 0.70; 0; 7.30; 0; 0.21; 3.05; 0; 1.66; 0; 0; 0; 2.99; 5.51; 3.38; 23.07; 0; 17.59; 0; 3.39; 1.58; 4.78; 0; 4.37; 0; 0; 1.71; 0.68; 0; 0; 0; 0; 0; 5.87; 0.62; 2.15
vbnetkhio
10-31-2019, 09:03 PM
Add this guy please
idontlikemaconha; 9.37; 0.70; 0; 7.30; 0; 0.21; 3.05; 0; 1.66; 0; 0; 0; 2.99; 5.51; 3.38; 23.07; 0; 17.59; 0; 3.39; 1.58; 4.78; 0; 4.37; 0; 0; 1.71; 0.68; 0; 0; 0; 0; 0; 5.87; 0.62; 2.15
https://i.imgur.com/AAo432P.png
https://i.imgur.com/kWVGEoZ.png
https://i.imgur.com/rJCU7Mm.png
Daos777
11-01-2019, 01:35 AM
Damn. Cumansky plots the closest to me.
vbnetkhio
11-02-2019, 03:42 PM
https://i.imgur.com/0SOOirn.png
South and Southeast Asia
ignore the aborigine and solomon island sample, they plot wrong because this map isn't designed for Oceanian samples.
Vid Flumina
11-02-2019, 10:10 PM
Few Alpine Lombards for your map:
CH_Brusio/Lugano
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.87 Pct
Armenian -
Basque 6.08 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 2.42 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 5.98 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 1.76 Pct
East_Med 1.66 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 4.36 Pct
Iberian 18.67 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 26.67 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 0.48 Pct
North_Atlantic 10.16 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 9.06 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 2.81 Pct
West_Med 9.00 Pct
CH_Bellinzona
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 2.67 Pct
Armenian -
Basque 1.51 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 6.42 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.10 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 3.12 Pct
Eastern_Euro 5.27 Pct
Fennoscandian 1.43 Pct
French 9.74 Pct
Iberian 18.13 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 22.95 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 5.19 Pct
North_African 0.23 Pct
North_Atlantic 7.57 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 7.27 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 8.40 Pct
IT_Verbania
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.77 Pct
Armenian 0.85 Pct
Basque 0.13 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.95 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.24 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 5.45 Pct
Eastern_Euro 2.83 Pct
Fennoscandian 5.15 Pct
French 6.19 Pct
Iberian 21.95 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 22.51 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 2.58 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 9.85 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 6.05 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 3.21 Pct
West_Med 4.25 Pct
Valcamonica_mixed
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 3.04 Pct
Basque 1.19 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.00 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 6.03 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 1.43 Pct
East_Med 3.14 Pct
Eastern_Euro 3.82 Pct
Fennoscandian -
French 4.91 Pct
Iberian 14.60 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 24.28 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 3.40 Pct
North_African 0.81 Pct
North_Atlantic 10.67 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 6.93 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 8.76 Pct
vbnetkhio
11-03-2019, 03:30 PM
Few Alpine Lombards for your map:
CH_Brusio/Lugano
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.87 Pct
Armenian -
Basque 6.08 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 2.42 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 5.98 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 1.76 Pct
East_Med 1.66 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 4.36 Pct
Iberian 18.67 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 26.67 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 0.48 Pct
North_Atlantic 10.16 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 9.06 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 2.81 Pct
West_Med 9.00 Pct
CH_Bellinzona
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 2.67 Pct
Armenian -
Basque 1.51 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 6.42 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.10 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 3.12 Pct
Eastern_Euro 5.27 Pct
Fennoscandian 1.43 Pct
French 9.74 Pct
Iberian 18.13 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 22.95 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 5.19 Pct
North_African 0.23 Pct
North_Atlantic 7.57 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 7.27 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 8.40 Pct
IT_Verbania
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.77 Pct
Armenian 0.85 Pct
Basque 0.13 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.95 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.24 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 5.45 Pct
Eastern_Euro 2.83 Pct
Fennoscandian 5.15 Pct
French 6.19 Pct
Iberian 21.95 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 22.51 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 2.58 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 9.85 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 6.05 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 3.21 Pct
West_Med 4.25 Pct
Valcamonica_mixed
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 3.04 Pct
Basque 1.19 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.00 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 6.03 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 1.43 Pct
East_Med 3.14 Pct
Eastern_Euro 3.82 Pct
Fennoscandian -
French 4.91 Pct
Iberian 14.60 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 24.28 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 3.40 Pct
North_African 0.81 Pct
North_Atlantic 10.67 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 6.93 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 8.76 Pct
https://i.imgur.com/bhge2cd.png
https://i.imgur.com/pe7lm3e.png
https://i.imgur.com/L56Kxqg.png
Vid Flumina
11-04-2019, 12:47 PM
Looking neat, you can delete CH_Brusio/Lugano as it turns out one of his grandparents unfortunately has some spanish ancestry.
Also, for anyone wondering, Valcamonica_mixed is half from Val Camonica half Venetian. You can remove that as well, I just wanted to see his position on the map.
Savoie and FR_Annecy2 seem to be overlapping and probably belong to the same kit, feel free to ditch either of them if that's the case
vbnetkhio
11-04-2019, 12:54 PM
Looking neat, you can delete CH_Brusio/Lugano as it turns out one of his grandparents unfortunately has some spanish ancestry.
Also, for anyone wondering, Valcamonica_mixed is half from Val Camonica half Venetian. You can remove that as well, I just wanted to see his position on the map.
Savoie and FR_Annecy2 seem to be overlapping and probably belong to the same kit, feel free to ditch either of them if that's the case
i checked, they are the same.
Please crop for me the area from Poland to Tatarstan and also what's between Bulgaria and Georgia. Not in one image of course.
Oh wait, add this woman, she is the strongest match of my mom on both FTDNA and GM (115 cM), I once emailed her but she has not responded
Irina; 0.69; 3.71; 7.62; 1.06; 0; 1.01; 0; 0; 2.55; 0; 11.54; 7.08; 11.44; 12.85; 0; 1.01; 0; 2.60; 0; 13.97; 0; 2.71; 4.30; 3.82; 0; 0; 0; 0; 0.80; 0.58; 4.79; 0; 1.22; 0; 4.64; 0
vbnetkhio
11-04-2019, 02:00 PM
Oh wait, add this woman, she is the strongest match of my mom on both FTDNA and GM (115 cM), I once emailed her but she has not responded
Irina; 0.69; 3.71; 7.62; 1.06; 0; 1.01; 0; 0; 2.55; 0; 11.54; 7.08; 11.44; 12.85; 0; 1.01; 0; 2.60; 0; 13.97; 0; 2.71; 4.30; 3.82; 0; 0; 0; 0; 0.80; 0.58; 4.79; 0; 1.22; 0; 4.64; 0
first the whole thing without labels, i think it looks nice
https://i.imgur.com/92o6Thz.png
NE Europe
https://i.imgur.com/faghhBN.png
the lower part of NE europe divided into left and right half
https://i.imgur.com/pTPjtwj.png
https://i.imgur.com/n94pzBZ.png
now the same for Bulgaria/Georgia zone
https://i.imgur.com/zoXrVA3.png
https://i.imgur.com/KJarUmo.png
https://i.imgur.com/LrNCabR.png
Finnal
Amerindian 0.62 Pct
Arabian 1.19 Pct
Armenian -
Basque 7.11 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 0.54 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 5.89 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 2.30 Pct
East_Med 7.43 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 0.54 Pct
French 3.66 Pct
Iberian 27.62 Pct
Indo-Chinese 0.21 Pct
Italian 11.84 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 2.96 Pct
North_African 2.92 Pct
North_Atlantic 5.52 Pct
North_Caucasian 1.49 Pct
North_Sea 11.24 Pct
Northeast_African 0.41 Pct
Oceanian 0.59 Pct
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 5.91 Pct
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?298752-I-need-help-about-Gedmatch-for-my-Admixture/
vbnetkhio
11-04-2019, 04:31 PM
Finnal
https://i.imgur.com/CwdKdZK.png
Lucas
11-05-2019, 12:38 PM
bump
The grandmother of an Anthrogenica user, she was born in Central France
Centre_Val_de_Loire
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 0.60 Pct
Central_African 0.74 Pct
Central_Euro 10.27 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 2.24 Pct
Fennoscandian 3.25 Pct
French 10.30 Pct
Iberian 29.15 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.98 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 0.58 Pct
North_Atlantic 9.36 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 11.68 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy 0.08 Pct
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.33 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 5.39 Pct
Samnium
11-05-2019, 07:25 PM
Looking neat, you can delete CH_Brusio/Lugano as it turns out one of his grandparents unfortunately has some spanish ancestry.
Also, for anyone wondering, Valcamonica_mixed is half from Val Camonica half Venetian. You can remove that as well, I just wanted to see his position on the map.
Savoie and FR_Annecy2 seem to be overlapping and probably belong to the same kit, feel free to ditch either of them if that's the caseBy the way Annecy isn't Savoie but Haute Savoie
Envoyé de mon ALE-L21 en utilisant Tapatalk
Please add this somewhat atypical Northern Russian
Vadim_S.; 0.36; 0; 0; 0; 0; 5.43; 0; 0; 1.56; 0; 23.74; 0; 21.27; 21.47; 1.73; 0; 0; 0; 0; 0; 0; 4.99; 0; 7.58; 0; 0; 0; 0.16; 0.15; 0; 5.51; 0; 6.03; 0; 0; 0
By the way Annecy isn't Savoie but Haute Savoie
Envoyé de mon ALE-L21 en utilisant Tapatalk
I think the author deleted the word Savoie
Vid Flumina
11-06-2019, 03:29 PM
FR_Lyon
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 1.05 Pct
Basque 2.30 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.09 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.23 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 3.61 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 1.89 Pct
Fennoscandian 8.35 Pct
French 9.69 Pct
Iberian 20.37 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 17.43 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 0.95 Pct
North_Atlantic 13.97 Pct
North_Caucasian 2.74 Pct
North_Sea 6.75 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.52 Pct
West_Med 4.06 Pct
FR_Bresse
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 2.58 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 11.34 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.96 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 4.20 Pct
East_Med 1.19 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 6.07 Pct
French 7.47 Pct
Iberian 16.03 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 22.08 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 10.51 Pct
North_Caucasian 0.50 Pct
North_Sea 13.61 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.15 Pct
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 2.31 Pct
FR_Pau
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 20.09 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.06 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 2.16 Pct
Fennoscandian 2.59 Pct
French 6.10 Pct
Iberian 32.31 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 9.19 Pct
Malayan 0.35 Pct
Near_Eastern -
North_African 0.80 Pct
North_Atlantic 5.53 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 10.39 Pct
Northeast_African 0.12 Pct
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.20 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 6.09 Pct
FR_Corrèze
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 13.05 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 1.28 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.87 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 1.83 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 1.60 Pct
Fennoscandian 3.18 Pct
French 5.70 Pct
Iberian 25.51 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.52 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 0.44 Pct
North_Atlantic 10.09 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 8.81 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.68 Pct
West_Med 8.45 Pct
IT_MdLivenza
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 0.68 Pct
Basque 4.96 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.90 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.75 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 7.09 Pct
East_Med 2.03 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 6.18 Pct
French 8.55 Pct
Iberian 13.28 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 21.11 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 5.44 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 7.19 Pct
North_Caucasian 0.12 Pct
North_Sea 6.87 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.08 Pct
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 4.15 Pct
West_Med 4.62 Pct
FR_Vendée
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 4.65 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 6.88 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.30 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 0.52 Pct
East_Med 1.41 Pct
Eastern_Euro 5.34 Pct
Fennoscandian 2.91 Pct
French 6.91 Pct
Iberian 25.94 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 18.39 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 0.27 Pct
North_Atlantic 6.47 Pct
North_Caucasian 0.19 Pct
North_Sea 11.25 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.28 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.83 Pct
West_Med 5.46 Pct
FR_Chartres
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 3.60 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 10.54 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.14 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 3.24 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 7.98 Pct
French 7.23 Pct
Iberian 12.48 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 18.03 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 1.38 Pct
North_Atlantic 13.70 Pct
North_Caucasian 1.82 Pct
North_Sea 14.29 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 5.54 Pct
FR_Mayenne
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 0.33 Pct
Basque 3.04 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 6.51 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.09 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 4.18 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 2.36 Pct
Fennoscandian 3.77 Pct
French 6.94 Pct
Iberian 22.10 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 14.88 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 14.32 Pct
North_Caucasian 0.20 Pct
North_Sea 15.33 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.15 Pct
West_Med 5.81 Pct
FR_Verdun
Population
Amerindian 0.27 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian 1.73 Pct
Basque 2.76 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 6.91 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 4.89 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 3.00 Pct
East_Med 1.82 Pct
Eastern_Euro 2.76 Pct
Fennoscandian 9.99 Pct
French 9.82 Pct
Iberian 11.45 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 12.86 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 7.91 Pct
North_Caucasian 0.48 Pct
North_Sea 18.00 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 5.36 Pct
Samnium
11-06-2019, 03:35 PM
FR_Lyon
Population
Amerindian-
Arabian-
Armenian1.05 Pct
Basque2.30 Pct
Central_African-
Central_Euro5.09 Pct
East_African-
East_Asian-
East_Balkan0.23 Pct
East_Central_Asian-
East_Central_Euro3.61 Pct
East_Med-
Eastern_Euro1.89 Pct
Fennoscandian8.35 Pct
French9.69 Pct
Iberian20.37 Pct
Indo-Chinese-
Italian17.43 Pct
Malayan-
Near_Eastern-
North_African0.95 Pct
North_Atlantic13.97 Pct
North_Caucasian2.74 Pct
North_Sea6.75 Pct
Northeast_African-
Oceanian-
Omotic-
Pygmy-
Siberian-
South_Asian-
South_Central_Asian-
South_Chinese-
Volga-Ural-
West_African-
West_Caucasian1.52 Pct
West_Med4.06 Pct
FR_Bresse
Population
Amerindian-
Arabian-
Armenian-
Basque2.58 Pct
Central_African-
Central_Euro11.34 Pct
East_African-
East_Asian-
East_Balkan1.96 Pct
East_Central_Asian-
East_Central_Euro4.20 Pct
East_Med1.19 Pct
Eastern_Euro-
Fennoscandian6.07 Pct
French7.47 Pct
Iberian16.03 Pct
Indo-Chinese-
Italian22.08 Pct
Malayan-
Near_Eastern-
North_African-
North_Atlantic10.51 Pct
North_Caucasian0.50 Pct
North_Sea13.61 Pct
Northeast_African-
Oceanian0.15 Pct
Omotic-
Pygmy-
Siberian-
South_Asian-
South_Central_Asian-
South_Chinese-
Volga-Ural-
West_African-
West_Caucasian-
West_Med2.31 Pct
FR_Pau
Population
Amerindian-
Arabian-
Armenian-
Basque20.09 Pct
Central_African-
Central_Euro4.06 Pct
East_African-
East_Asian-
East_Balkan-
East_Central_Asian-
East_Central_Euro-
East_Med-
Eastern_Euro2.16 Pct
Fennoscandian2.59 Pct
French6.10 Pct
Iberian32.31 Pct
Indo-Chinese-
Italian9.19 Pct
Malayan0.35 Pct
Near_Eastern-
North_African0.80 Pct
North_Atlantic5.53 Pct
North_Caucasian-
North_Sea10.39 Pct
Northeast_African0.12 Pct
Oceanian-
Omotic-
Pygmy-
Siberian-
South_Asian-
South_Central_Asian-
South_Chinese-
Volga-Ural0.20 Pct
West_African-
West_Caucasian-
West_Med6.09 Pct
FR_Corrèze
Population
Amerindian-
Arabian-
Armenian-
Basque13.05 Pct
Central_African-
Central_Euro1.28 Pct
East_African-
East_Asian-
East_Balkan3.87 Pct
East_Central_Asian-
East_Central_Euro1.83 Pct
East_Med-
Eastern_Euro1.60 Pct
Fennoscandian3.18 Pct
French5.70 Pct
Iberian25.51 Pct
Indo-Chinese-
Italian15.52 Pct
Malayan-
Near_Eastern-
North_African0.44 Pct
North_Atlantic10.09 Pct
North_Caucasian-
North_Sea8.81 Pct
Northeast_African-
Oceanian-
Omotic-
Pygmy-
Siberian-
South_Asian-
South_Central_Asian-
South_Chinese-
Volga-Ural-
West_African-
West_Caucasian0.68 Pct
West_Med8.45 Pct
IT_MdLivenza
Population
Amerindian-
Arabian-
Armenian0.68 Pct
Basque4.96 Pct
Central_African-
Central_Euro3.90 Pct
East_African-
East_Asian-
East_Balkan3.75 Pct
East_Central_Asian-
East_Central_Euro7.09 Pct
East_Med2.03 Pct
Eastern_Euro-
Fennoscandian6.18 Pct
French8.55 Pct
Iberian13.28 Pct
Indo-Chinese-
Italian21.11 Pct
Malayan-
Near_Eastern5.44 Pct
North_African-
North_Atlantic7.19 Pct
North_Caucasian0.12 Pct
North_Sea6.87 Pct
Northeast_African-
Oceanian0.08 Pct
Omotic-
Pygmy-
Siberian-
South_Asian-
South_Central_Asian-
South_Chinese-
Volga-Ural-
West_African-
West_Caucasian4.15 Pct
West_Med4.62 Pct
FR_Vendée
Population
Amerindian-
Arabian-
Armenian-
Basque4.65 Pct
Central_African-
Central_Euro6.88 Pct
East_African-
East_Asian-
East_Balkan2.30 Pct
East_Central_Asian-
East_Central_Euro0.52 Pct
East_Med1.41 Pct
Eastern_Euro5.34 Pct
Fennoscandian2.91 Pct
French6.91 Pct
Iberian25.94 Pct
Indo-Chinese-
Italian18.39 Pct
Malayan-
Near_Eastern-
North_African0.27 Pct
North_Atlantic6.47 Pct
North_Caucasian0.19 Pct
North_Sea11.25 Pct
Northeast_African-
Oceanian-
Omotic-
Pygmy-
Siberian-
South_Asian-
South_Central_Asian0.28 Pct
South_Chinese-
Volga-Ural-
West_African-
West_Caucasian0.83 Pct
West_Med5.46 Pct
FR_Chartres
Population
Amerindian-
Arabian-
Armenian-
Basque3.60 Pct
Central_African-
Central_Euro10.54 Pct
East_African-
East_Asian-
East_Balkan0.14 Pct
East_Central_Asian-
East_Central_Euro3.24 Pct
East_Med-
Eastern_Euro-
Fennoscandian7.98 Pct
French7.23 Pct
Iberian12.48 Pct
Indo-Chinese-
Italian18.03 Pct
Malayan-
Near_Eastern-
North_African1.38 Pct
North_Atlantic13.70 Pct
North_Caucasian1.82 Pct
North_Sea14.29 Pct
Northeast_African-
Oceanian-
Omotic-
Pygmy-
Siberian-
South_Asian-
South_Central_Asian-
South_Chinese-
Volga-Ural-
West_African-
West_Caucasian-
West_Med5.54 Pct
FR_Mayenne
Population
Amerindian-
Arabian-
Armenian0.33 Pct
Basque3.04 Pct
Central_African-
Central_Euro6.51 Pct
East_African-
East_Asian-
East_Balkan0.09 Pct
East_Central_Asian-
East_Central_Euro4.18 Pct
East_Med-
Eastern_Euro2.36 Pct
Fennoscandian3.77 Pct
French6.94 Pct
Iberian22.10 Pct
Indo-Chinese-
Italian14.88 Pct
Malayan-
Near_Eastern-
North_African-
North_Atlantic14.32 Pct
North_Caucasian0.20 Pct
North_Sea15.33 Pct
Northeast_African-
Oceanian-
Omotic-
Pygmy-
Siberian-
South_Asian-
South_Central_Asian-
South_Chinese-
Volga-Ural-
West_African-
West_Caucasian0.15 Pct
West_Med5.81 Pct
FR_Verdun
Population
Amerindian0.27 Pct
Arabian-
Armenian1.73 Pct
Basque2.76 Pct
Central_African-
Central_Euro6.91 Pct
East_African-
East_Asian-
East_Balkan4.89 Pct
East_Central_Asian-
East_Central_Euro3.00 Pct
East_Med1.82 Pct
Eastern_Euro2.76 Pct
Fennoscandian9.99 Pct
French9.82 Pct
Iberian11.45 Pct
Indo-Chinese-
Italian12.86 Pct
Malayan-
Near_Eastern-
North_African-
North_Atlantic7.91 Pct
North_Caucasian0.48 Pct
North_Sea18.00 Pct
Northeast_African-
Oceanian-
Omotic-
Pygmy-
Siberian-
South_Asian-
South_Central_Asian-
South_Chinese-
Volga-Ural-
West_African-
West_Caucasian-
West_Med5.36 Pct
Possible to have the gedmatch kits of these ?
I have noticed that's the west of the country as north as Vendée is very Iberian-like. The North-East/N.Alpine area (basically Haute-Savoie) shift torward North noticeably.
Vid Flumina
11-06-2019, 03:51 PM
Possible to have the gedmatch kits of these ?
contrôle ta boîte dans 5min stp
Samnium
11-06-2019, 03:53 PM
contrôle ta boîte dans 5min stpBien !
Envoyé de mon ALE-L21 en utilisant Tapatalk
Can you please post the K13 and K15 of that Venetian, I wonder what they would be like.
Bartosz_PL
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 0.26 Pct
Basque 1.63 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.53 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.82 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 18.34 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 21.13 Pct
Fennoscandian 7.03 Pct
French 2.75 Pct
Iberian 13.43 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 2.17 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 10.40 Pct
North_Caucasian 5.23 Pct
North_Sea 8.26 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.31 Pct
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.70 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?274360-Polish-results-mixed-regions&highlight=Mixed+Polish
Vid Flumina
11-06-2019, 09:09 PM
Last batch before the big update:
IT_Trento1
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.36 Pct
Armenian 1.16 Pct
Basque 3.81 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.33 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.68 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 8.27 Pct
East_Med 4.94 Pct
Eastern_Euro 3.97 Pct
Fennoscandian 2.49 Pct
French 10.02 Pct
Iberian 12.82 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 22.32 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 0.35 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 7.07 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 7.80 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 6.62 Pct
IT_Trento2
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 2.38 Pct
Armenian 1.23 Pct
Basque 2.92 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.21 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 5.37 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 5.17 Pct
East_Med 3.86 Pct
Eastern_Euro 3.87 Pct
Fennoscandian 4.36 Pct
French 7.54 Pct
Iberian 12.76 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 25.48 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 1.57 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 8.90 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 2.42 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 6.96 Pct
IT_Trento3
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 3.02 Pct
Basque 2.68 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.53 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 8.04 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 7.46 Pct
East_Med 3.58 Pct
Eastern_Euro 0.94 Pct
Fennoscandian 3.47 Pct
French 4.92 Pct
Iberian 10.92 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 26.10 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 1.33 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 7.54 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 8.96 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.36 Pct
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.20 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 2.04 Pct
West_Med 4.91 Pct
IT_Brescia
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.08 Pct
Armenian 3.72 Pct
Basque 1.90 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 1.05 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 7.67 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 3.80 Pct
East_Med 8.20 Pct
Eastern_Euro 0.48 Pct
Fennoscandian 1.49 Pct
French 4.17 Pct
Iberian 16.42 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 26.01 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 2.73 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 8.65 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 3.65 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.43 Pct
West_Med 8.55 Pct
@vbnetkhio, did you stop adding new ones?
vbnetkhio
11-07-2019, 01:26 PM
@vbnetkhio, did you stop adding new ones?
no, i was just about to post the update :)
https://i.imgur.com/TwPzd3X.png
https://i.imgur.com/oU8P8QE.png
Shit, because of a couple of new samples I need an updated version of NE Europe. I promised to myself not to send any new Eastern Europeans ;)
https://i.imgur.com/pTPjtwj.png
By the way, Centre Val de Loire already implies Central France, so that wasn't necessary. Also, why is UltimatePagan's kit number included? Lol xD
vbnetkhio
11-07-2019, 01:54 PM
Shit, because of a couple of new samples I need an updated version of NE Europe. I promised to myself not to send any new Eastern Europeans ;)
https://i.imgur.com/pTPjtwj.png
By the way, Centre Val de Loire already implies Central France, so that wasn't necessary. Also, why is UltimatePagan's kit number included? Lol xD
you already posted it here, and i saved it in the name, so i don't forget it for my future kit number collection.
https://i.imgur.com/qKMEvH2.png
Karol Klačansky
11-07-2019, 02:34 PM
Can you add me and my father please?
Me:
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 0.21 Pct
Basque 1.51 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.73 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.89 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 14.01 Pct
East_Med 2.41 Pct
Eastern_Euro 14.89 Pct
Fennoscandian 11.56 Pct
French 6.27 Pct
Iberian 12.33 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 2.33 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 8.11 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 15.07 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.66 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -
My father Nitra Slovak
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 1.96 Pct
Basque 3.94 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.71 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 4.01 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 15.76 Pct
East_Med 4.45 Pct
Eastern_Euro 15.79 Pct
Fennoscandian 12.23 Pct
French 4.82 Pct
Iberian 4.06 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 4.88 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 7.79 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 12.51 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.87 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 0.21 Pc
This is the whitest person I've ever seen. She is half Latvian and apparently half Irish or British. Literally you can't get much whiter than that - the Baltic met the North Atlantic and produced her :cool: :thumb001:
Katrina_B.
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 3.29 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 9.41 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.64 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 20.59 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 13.59 Pct
Fennoscandian 8.69 Pct
French 7.88 Pct
Iberian 7.07 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 0.35 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 14.05 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 12.90 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.53 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -
K15 oracle:
50% Lithuanian + 50% Irish @ 2.61
vbnetkhio
11-07-2019, 05:21 PM
This is the whitest person I've ever seen. She is half Latvian and apparently half Irish or British. Literally you can't get much whiter than that - the Baltic met the North Atlantic and produced her :cool:
Can you add me and my father please?
https://i.imgur.com/onhRbFP.png
A person I know just got his results, let's add him
JR_Alicante/Lugo
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 7.85 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 1.86 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.77 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 3.16 Pct
Eastern_Euro 0.61 Pct
Fennoscandian 2.43 Pct
French 4.00 Pct
Iberian 33.46 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 17.25 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 4.62 Pct
North_African 1.62 Pct
North_Atlantic 4.13 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 11.00 Pct
Northeast_African 0.75 Pct
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 5.49 Pct
What is ethnicity of Lundiak family? They are closest to Stears, relativelly speaking.
What is ethnicity of Lundiak family? They are closest to Stears, relativelly speaking.
They are the Southwestern Ukrainians I posted. Andriy is the guy himself, Mykhailo is his father, Katerina is mother, she is the most Southern.
They are the Southwestern Ukrainians I posted. Andriy is the guy himself, Mykhailo is his father, Katerina is mother, she is the most Southern.
Thanks! I can't even locate mother on the map, she isn't even in NE quadrant as far as I can see.
vbnetkhio
11-08-2019, 12:34 PM
They are the Southwestern Ukrainians I posted. Andriy is the guy himself, Mykhailo is his father, Katerina is mother, she is the most Southern.
What is ethnicity of Lundiak family? They are closest to Stears, relativelly speaking.
they are either Boykos or Hutsuls i believe. but Stears would plot in Eastern Germany if all exotic components were removed so they are not that similar.
they are either Boykos or Hutsuls i believe. but Stears would plot in Eastern Germany if all exotic components were removed so they are not that similar.
Yeah, true. On gedmatch he appear to be East German + cca. 15% exotic stuff (Caucasus, Turkish)
vbnetkhio
11-08-2019, 12:37 PM
Thanks! I can't even locate mother on the map, she isn't even in NE quadrant as far as I can see.
check the map before the last one i posted. she is K.Babij.
Well, removing something is not a good idea, I can remove my Siberian and would shift a lot closer to Poland.
check the map before the last one i posted. she is K.Babij.
She is in Croatian cluster :)
Not the first SW Ukrainian/Rusyn to be close to us.
She is in Croatian cluster :)
Not the first SW Ukrainian/Rusyn to be close to us.
Do you have Max Soldo's kit? He is so "Slavic" as you say, I would like to place him on the map. Also, I wonder what he looks like, Nordic or wog. He is more Baltic than Katerina Babij!
Well, removing something is not a good idea, I can remove my Siberian and would shift a lot closer to Poland.
Can you pass for Pole? I bet you can.
This is funny, because Stears would really fit in East Germany looks wise much better than in SW Ukraine, for example.
I watched East German film where one actor was like his copy from teenage age.
This minor exotic stuff rarely influences phenotype.
An that's why I don't like PCAs. People who have totally different ancestry can end up plotting close togheder.
Stears is most eastern shifted Hungarian, and at the same time his Slavic ancestry is below average for Hungary. Looking at the PCA you would never conclude that.
vbnetkhio
11-08-2019, 12:43 PM
She is in Croatian cluster :)
Not the first SW Ukrainian/Rusyn to be close to us.
they are those same people which were discussed in the "SW Ukrainian and identical to Croats" thread.
Do you have Max Soldo's kit? He is so "Slavic" as you say, I would like to place him on the map. Also, I wonder what he looks like, Nordic or wog. He is more Baltic than Katerina Babij!
I can look it up :)
He goes by name Illyrio-Vlach on anthrogenica, so my guess is wog xD
I got impression he thinks he is native Balkan guy by ancestry. Most southerners think that very wrongly.
Can you pass for Pole? I bet you can.
This is funny, because Stears would really fit in East Germany looks wise much better than in SW Ukraine, for example.
I watched East German film where one actor was like his copy from teenage age.
This minor exotic stuff rarely influences phenotype.
An that's why I don't like PCAs. People who have totally different ancestry can end up plotting close togheder.
Stears is most eastern shifted Hungarian, and at the same time his Slavic ancestry is below average for Hungary. Looking at the PCA you would never conclude that.
Yes, I can pass all over East-Central Europe, I don't look mixed at all or stereotypically "Finno-Ugric" (I don't believe there is a "Finno-Ugric race", it's mostly a broad language family).
Stears is not swarthy at all, can fit in Germany or Czechia indeed.
they are those same people which were discussed in the "SW Ukrainian and identical to Croats" thread.
Ah, I see. Nevertheless, there were couple of Carpathian Slavs posted by Aspirin if I remember, clustering with Croats and Moldovans.
Belarusian member Rugevit mentioned some Western Ukrainians have similar genetic profile to Croats years ago.
Ah, I see. Nevertheless, there were couple of Carpathian Slavs posted by Aspirin if I remember, clustering with Croats and Moldovans.
Belarusian member Rugevit mentioned some Western Ukrainians have similar genetic profile to Croats years ago.
Please don't mention that dipshit, he's on the map under the nickname BEL Vitebsk and clusters with Vyacheslav who is Northern Russian :lol:
vbnetkhio
11-08-2019, 12:53 PM
Well, removing something is not a good idea, I can remove my Siberian and would shift a lot closer to Poland.
the Russians which plot near you are probably actually similar to you (they also have the Siberian).
for Stears it's not the case. that's the disadvantage of this type of map.
Please don't mention that dipshit, he's on the map under the nickname BEL Vitebsk and clusters with Vyacheslav who is Northern Russian :lol:
Yeah, I know you two had some bizzare argument. :D
He claimed Belarusians must score super Baltic to be real Belarusians, or something like that?
Nevertheless, I think he was very educated and pleasant to read about Slavic stuff in general.
Yeah, I know you two had some bizzare argument. :D
He claimed Belarusians must score super Baltic to be real Belarusians, or something like that?
Nevertheless, I think he was very educated and pleasant to read about Slavic stuff in general.
My problem is that he is ridiculously Russophobic while he probably speaks Russian at home and looks like a Russian guy. Being Russophobic when you're an Orthodox Russian-speaking Slav is kind of stupid to me. I don't wanna go into that, it's irrelevant here. Just a sidenote.
the Russians which plot near you are probably actually similar to you (they also have the Siberian).
for Stears it's not the case. that's the disadvantage of this type of map.
Yes, the Russian/East Slavic cluster on the map generally makes sense. I know everyone's background, more or less.
What's the problem with Stears? You think his 1% Romani is pulling him eastwards? Maybe we could try his new raw data?
vbnetkhio
11-08-2019, 01:19 PM
What's the problem with Stears? You think his 1% Romani is pulling him eastwards? Maybe we could try his new raw data?
there is no problem. he plots like Lundiaks, but he isn't actually that similar to them. but that isn't a problem of low quality raw data, it's just how this plot works.
and Stears doesn't have 1% Romani, but he has 10-15% Caucasian+Siberian. but Romani admixture in Europeans can also cause this "problem".
there is no problem. he plots like Lundiaks, but he isn't actually that similar to them. but that isn't a problem of low quality raw data, it's just how this plot works.
and Stears doesn't have 1% Romani, but he has 10-15% Caucasian+Siberian. but Romani admixture in Europeans can also cause this "problem".
Impaler allegedly has distant Romani (and I repeat - ALLEGEDLY) and he is pulled in the direction of the Pakistani-white mixes (Aliya, Arif, Kazim).
Slavic Italian
11-08-2019, 01:29 PM
Well, removing something is not a good idea, I can remove my Siberian and would shift a lot closer to Poland.
Where am I at????
vbnetkhio
11-08-2019, 01:40 PM
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vbnetkhio
11-08-2019, 01:40 PM
Impaler allegedly has distant Romani (and I repeat - ALLEGEDLY) and he is pulled in the direction of the Pakistani-white mixes (Aliya, Arif, Kazim).
you are overestimating this very simple plot.
if the allegation is true, if he has like 3% south asian(i'm too lazy to check his results), he just gets a "3% pull" towards the South Asian point . that's all
https://i.imgur.com/YsKeQTf.png
vbnetkhio
11-08-2019, 02:02 PM
Where am I at????
have you posted your k36 results in this thread?
Slavic Italian
11-08-2019, 02:43 PM
Population
Amerindian 0.93 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian 1.52 Pct
Basque 1.08 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.02 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 4.45 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 11.94 Pct
East_Med 4.10 Pct
Eastern_Euro 2.67 Pct
Fennoscandian 5.36 Pct
French 3.51 Pct
Iberian 11.28 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.88 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 8.25 Pct
North_Caucasian 2.71 Pct
North_Sea 17.75 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian 3.79 Pct
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.53 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 0.25 Pct
vbnetkhio
11-08-2019, 03:12 PM
Population
here. it shouldn't be too diferrent from the k15 plot
https://i.imgur.com/XI5iZjd.png
A person I know just got his results, let's add him
https://i.imgur.com/1Afz51P.png
Could you try to plot Stears with his new data? I prefer it to the old one as it gives more accurate results.
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 1.96 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.41 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.36 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 14.71 Pct
East_Med 0.14 Pct
Eastern_Euro 7.03 Pct
Fennoscandian 15.05 Pct
French 0.91 Pct
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 19.50 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 0.24 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 5.13 Pct
North_Caucasian 4.58 Pct
North_Sea 15.13 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic 0.58 Pct
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian 0.24 Pct
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 3.32 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 2.62 Pct
West_Med 1.07 Pct
Vid Flumina
11-08-2019, 03:26 PM
This one should also be interesting (ethnicity breakdown: 50% Ligurian; 44% Dalmatian Italian; 6% Trentino)
Novi_Ligure/Lussino
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 2.98 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.49 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 5.47 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 10.56 Pct
East_Med 7.81 Pct
Eastern_Euro 7.07 Pct
Fennoscandian 0.37 Pct
French 2.24 Pct
Iberian 12.66 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 20.41 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 3.73 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 2.75 Pct
North_Caucasian 1.29 Pct
North_Sea 11.53 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 2.38 Pct
West_Med 5.27 Pct
WeirdLookingFellow
11-08-2019, 03:37 PM
there is no problem. he plots like Lundiaks, but he isn't actually that similar to them. but that isn't a problem of low quality raw data, it's just how this plot works.
and Stears doesn't have 1% Romani, but he has 10-15% Caucasian+Siberian. but Romani admixture in Europeans can also cause this "problem".
Like vbnetkhio said, Stears has clear North Caucasian+Tatar ancestry. It's very visible on G25. Mr G's dad has the same "problem", showing heavy South-Central Asian on K36; G25 showed it's a sort of Azer-Tajik.
As I've seen, South-Central Asian without South Asian on K36 is also a good indicator that it's not Rroma admix but something more around the Caspian Sea.
Slavic Italian
11-08-2019, 03:39 PM
[QUOTE=vbnetkhio;6320732]here. it shouldn't be too diferrent from the k15 plot
https://i.imgur.com/XI5iZjd.png
I'm in the dead center.
vbnetkhio
11-08-2019, 03:52 PM
[QUOTE=vbnetkhio;6320732]here. it shouldn't be too diferrent from the k15 plot
https://i.imgur.com/XI5iZjd.png
I'm in the dead center.
i just zoomed in the area around you
Slavic Italian in plotting where Montenegrins would?
Slavic Italian in plotting where Montenegrins would?
Montenegrins are Slavic Italians lol
vbnetkhio
11-08-2019, 04:12 PM
This one should also be interesting (ethnicity breakdown: 50% Ligurian; 44% Dalmatian Italian; 6% Trentino)
Novi_Ligure/Lussino
Could you try to plot Stears with his new data? I prefer it to the old one as it gives more accurate results.
https://i.imgur.com/YCaG6Nj.png
https://i.imgur.com/X1Oz5tG.png
wow, quite a difference. With new raw data Stears is more northern. Italian man is quite eastern shifted, as well.
bained
11-08-2019, 04:19 PM
Hes very close to me, I can no longer be special snowflake ;(
vbnetkhio
11-08-2019, 04:19 PM
Hes very close to me, I can no longer be special snowflake ;(
you are more Italic than him :D
Can you do this one please
Population
Amerindian 0.22 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian 0.70 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.85 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 7.91 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 13.41 Pct
East_Med 4.95 Pct
Eastern_Euro 13.60 Pct
Fennoscandian 3.45 Pct
French 3.19 Pct
Iberian 10.23 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 17.66 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 6.74 Pct
North_Caucasian 6.55 Pct
North_Sea 4.57 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.45 Pct
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.45 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 1.04 Pct
vbnetkhio
11-08-2019, 04:43 PM
Can you do this one please
https://i.imgur.com/oXjXJxj.png
wisteria
11-08-2019, 04:44 PM
Here is mine :)
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 1.92 Pct
Basque 2.20 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.30 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.55 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 6.94 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 3.06 Pct
Fennoscandian 7.63 Pct
French 11.69 Pct
Iberian 16.05 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 1.39 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 15.01 Pct
North_Caucasian 5.72 Pct
North_Sea 17.26 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian 0.42 Pct
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.18 Pct
West_Med 2.69 Pct
vbnetkhio
11-08-2019, 05:06 PM
Here is mine :)
https://i.imgur.com/oCsQs2d.png
Iris' converted data, let's see how different it will plot
IrisSelene_V3
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 3.01 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.41 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 9.98 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 15.02 Pct
East_Med 3.79 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.30 Pct
Fennoscandian 6.36 Pct
French 0.63 Pct
Iberian 12.34 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 16.30 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 0.06 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 2.93 Pct
North_Caucasian 5.55 Pct
North_Sea 4.96 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 1.71 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 2.30 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 3.33 Pct
Vid Flumina
11-08-2019, 05:26 PM
Italian man is quite eastern shifted, as well.
Let's see these two Istrian Italians with some possible Venetian (Padova) ancestry:
Istrian_Italian1
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 1.36 Pct
Basque 0.71 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 8.65 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 6.96 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 14.10 Pct
East_Med 8.24 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.04 Pct
Fennoscandian 3.64 Pct
French 4.16 Pct
Iberian 11.68 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 14.12 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 8.43 Pct
North_Caucasian 1.24 Pct
North_Sea 4.71 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.17 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.56 Pct
West_Med 1.22 Pct
Istrian_Italian2
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 1.48 Pct
Basque 1.76 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 9.01 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 7.95 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 13.71 Pct
East_Med 6.74 Pct
Eastern_Euro 9.31 Pct
Fennoscandian -
French 4.66 Pct
Iberian 13.04 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 10.92 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 0.88 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 6.36 Pct
North_Caucasian 1.83 Pct
North_Sea 8.09 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.95 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.55 Pct
West_Med 1.74 Pct
@Vid Flumina, you should post Eurogenes of those very Northern Italians, I for one have never seen any from those places. In my mind Italians are still strongly East Med (guess why).
vbnetkhio
11-08-2019, 05:36 PM
Iris' converted data, let's see how different it will plot
Let's see these two Istrian Italians with some possible Venetian (Padova) ancestry:
last update for today
https://i.imgur.com/Lf1gi82.png
https://i.imgur.com/Kk4XzpN.png
@Vid Flumina, you should post Eurogenes of those very Northern Italians, I for one have never seen any from those places. In my mind Italians are still strongly East Med (guess why).
Sikeliot?
Vid Flumina
11-08-2019, 05:53 PM
@Vid Flumina, you should post Eurogenes of those very Northern Italians, I for one have never seen any from those places. In my mind Italians are still strongly East Med (guess why).
Udine
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 25.58
2 North_Sea 19.24
3 West_Med 16.47
4 Baltic 11.96
5 East_Med 11.62
6 West_Asian 7.58
7 Eastern_Euro 5.56
8 Red_Sea 1.47
9 Southeast_Asian 0.44
10 South_Asian 0.09
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 7.99
2 Spanish_Cataluna 8.41
3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 9.2
4 Portuguese 9.42
5 French 9.82
6 Spanish_Galicia 9.83
7 Spanish_Murcia 9.91
8 Spanish_Extremadura 9.95
9 Spanish_Valencia 10.53
10 Serbian 10.77
11 Spanish_Andalucia 11
12 Romanian 11.52
13 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 11.72
14 Austrian 11.93
15 Southwest_French 12.16
16 Spanish_Cantabria 12.17
17 Tuscan 12.29
18 South_Dutch 12.57
19 Bulgarian 12.61
20 Spanish_Aragon 13.23
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 41.7% Romanian @ 2.46
2 60.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 39.3% Bulgarian @ 2.73
3 60.9% North_Italian + 39.1% Austrian @ 2.95
4 53.7% Romanian + 46.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.98
5 56.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 43.9% Romanian @ 3.02
6 52.4% Spanish_Valencia + 47.6% Romanian @ 3.09
7 50.5% Romanian + 49.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.37
8 50.6% Spanish_Valencia + 49.4% Serbian @ 3.37
9 51.5% Romanian + 48.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.4
10 66.4% Romanian + 33.6% French_Basque @ 3.41
11 66.3% North_Italian + 33.7% East_German @ 3.46
12 51.5% Romanian + 48.5% Southwest_French @ 3.49
13 58.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 41.3% Bulgarian @ 3.49
14 54.2% Spanish_Murcia + 45.8% Romanian @ 3.55
15 57.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 42.9% Serbian @ 3.55
16 55.6% Serbian + 44.4% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.58
17 54.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 45.5% Serbian @ 3.64
18 57.6% Spanish_Andalucia + 42.4% Hungarian @ 3.65
19 52.4% Serbian + 47.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.72
20 50.6% Serbian + 49.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.75
Cuneo
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 30.35
2 Atlantic 22.46
3 West_Med 20.55
4 East_Med 10.14
5 Baltic 4.89
6 West_Asian 4.31
7 Red_Sea 2.82
8 Eastern_Euro 2.76
9 Amerindian 0.97
10 South_Asian 0.76
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Galicia 7.52
2 French 7.75
3 Portuguese 8.92
4 Spanish_Cataluna 9.98
5 Spanish_Extremadura 10.79
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 11.1
7 Spanish_Murcia 11.36
8 West_German 11.87
9 South_Dutch 12.68
10 North_Italian 12.75
11 Spanish_Cantabria 13.1
12 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 14.28
13 Spanish_Valencia 14.28
14 Southwest_English 14.58
15 Spanish_Andalucia 15.04
16 Spanish_Aragon 15.38
17 Southwest_French 15.5
18 Southeast_English 16.21
19 Tuscan 17.38
20 North_German 18.27
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76% West_German + 24% Sardinian @ 5.61
2 68.2% Spanish_Galicia + 31.8% West_German @ 5.76
3 82.1% Spanish_Galicia + 17.9% West_Norwegian @ 6.11
4 61.2% Portuguese + 38.8% West_German @ 6.19
5 80.5% Spanish_Galicia + 19.5% Orcadian @ 6.25
6 65.6% Orcadian + 34.4% Sardinian @ 6.27
7 88.1% French + 11.9% Sardinian @ 6.33
8 52.5% Spanish_Galicia + 47.5% French @ 6.37
9 82.8% Spanish_Galicia + 17.2% Norwegian @ 6.38
10 82.1% Spanish_Galicia + 17.9% North_Dutch @ 6.51
11 77.6% Spanish_Galicia + 22.4% Southwest_English @ 6.52
12 84.4% Spanish_Galicia + 15.6% Swedish @ 6.52
13 62.3% West_Norwegian + 37.7% Sardinian @ 6.58
14 80.5% Spanish_Galicia + 19.5% Southeast_English @ 6.61
15 53.6% Spanish_Extremadura + 46.4% West_German @ 6.64
16 83.4% Spanish_Galicia + 16.6% West_Scottish @ 6.66
17 83.6% Spanish_Galicia + 16.4% Danish @ 6.68
18 77.1% Portuguese + 22.9% West_Norwegian @ 6.68
19 83.7% Spanish_Galicia + 16.3% Irish @ 6.74
20 60.8% French + 39.2% Portuguese @ 6.81
-------------------------
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 25.12
2 Atlantic 23.76
3 West_Med 21.28
4 East_Med 9.73
5 Baltic 9.7
6 West_Asian 3.88
7 Eastern_Euro 3.15
8 South_Asian 1.22
9 Red_Sea 0.96
10 Amerindian 0.81
11 Sub-Saharan 0.23
12 Oceanian 0.17
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Galicia 5.41
2 Portuguese 6.42
3 Spanish_Cataluna 6.57
4 French 7.6
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 7.84
6 Spanish_Extremadura 8.56
7 Spanish_Murcia 8.88
8 North_Italian 9.54
9 Spanish_Cantabria 10.04
10 Spanish_Valencia 10.71
11 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 11.43
12 Spanish_Andalucia 11.46
13 Southwest_French 11.47
14 South_Dutch 12.26
15 Spanish_Aragon 12.47
16 West_German 13.1
17 Tuscan 15.28
18 Southwest_English 15.5
19 Serbian 15.7
20 East_German 16.32
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.9% West_German + 29.1% Sardinian @ 3.38
2 61.9% North_Dutch + 38.1% Sardinian @ 3.71
3 82.4% French + 17.6% Sardinian @ 3.79
4 63.6% North_German + 36.4% Sardinian @ 3.96
5 61.7% Danish + 38.3% Sardinian @ 4.18
6 72.8% South_Dutch + 27.2% Sardinian @ 4.23
7 58.8% Swedish + 41.2% Sardinian @ 4.45
8 62.4% Irish + 37.6% Sardinian @ 4.54
9 80.8% Spanish_Galicia + 19.2% West_German @ 4.55
10 85.3% Spanish_Galicia + 14.7% Hungarian @ 4.57
11 65.2% Southeast_English + 34.8% Sardinian @ 4.59
12 85.5% Spanish_Galicia + 14.5% East_German @ 4.71
13 73.8% Portuguese + 26.2% West_German @ 4.74
14 90.6% Spanish_Galicia + 9.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.77
15 59.6% Norwegian + 40.4% Sardinian @ 4.77
16 89.4% Spanish_Galicia + 10.6% Swedish @ 4.78
17 91% Spanish_Galicia + 9% Ukrainian @ 4.79
18 70.2% Spanish_Galicia + 29.8% French @ 4.79
19 89% Spanish_Galicia + 11% Moldavian @ 4.81
20 61.5% West_Scottish + 38.5% Sardinian @ 4.81
Trento
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 24.86
2 North_Sea 21.03
3 West_Med 17.9
4 East_Med 13.1
5 Baltic 11.28
6 Eastern_Euro 6.44
7 West_Asian 4.01
8 Red_Sea 1.25
9 Amerindian 0.13
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Cataluna 7.25
2 North_Italian 7.58
3 Portuguese 7.85
4 Spanish_Galicia 8.12
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 8.45
6 Spanish_Murcia 8.79
7 Spanish_Extremadura 8.91
8 French 9.09
9 Spanish_Valencia 9.95
10 Spanish_Andalucia 10.76
11 Spanish_Cantabria 11.4
12 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 11.4
13 Serbian 11.55
14 Southwest_French 11.68
15 South_Dutch 12.4
16 Tuscan 12.6
17 Spanish_Aragon 12.7
18 Austrian 12.99
19 Romanian 13.06
20 Bulgarian 14.15
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.8% Spanish_Cataluna + 37.2% Serbian @ 2.95
2 65.8% Spanish_Cataluna + 34.2% Romanian @ 3.01
3 76.6% North_Italian + 23.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.03
4 68% Spanish_Cataluna + 32% Bulgarian @ 3.23
5 68% North_Italian + 32% East_German @ 3.28
6 77.2% North_Italian + 22.8% North_Swedish @ 3.34
7 76.9% North_Italian + 23.1% Swedish @ 3.49
8 57.7% Spanish_Murcia + 42.3% Serbian @ 3.5
9 72.3% North_Italian + 27.7% North_German @ 3.56
10 64.4% Spanish_Murcia + 35.6% Hungarian @ 3.56
11 78.9% North_Italian + 21.1% Finnish @ 3.59
12 81.2% North_Italian + 18.8% Estonian @ 3.61
13 59% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 41% Serbian @ 3.65
14 68.3% Spanish_Murcia + 31.7% Moldavian @ 3.66
15 54.2% Spanish_Valencia + 45.8% Serbian @ 3.67
16 73.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 26.6% Moldavian @ 3.69
17 76.9% North_Italian + 23.1% Norwegian @ 3.7
18 74.8% North_Italian + 25.2% Danish @ 3.71
19 64.2% North_Italian + 35.8% South_Dutch @ 3.75
20 65.4% North_Italian + 34.6% Austrian @ 3.8
-------------------------
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 23.5
2 Atlantic 18.86
3 West_Med 18.27
4 Baltic 12.54
5 East_Med 12.02
6 West_Asian 7.79
7 Eastern_Euro 4.58
8 Red_Sea 1.13
9 Oceanian 1.03
10 Siberian 0.27
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 9.71
2 French 10.41
3 Spanish_Galicia 10.43
4 Serbian 10.47
5 Romanian 11.1
6 Portuguese 11.22
7 Spanish_Cataluna 11.76
8 Bulgarian 12.64
9 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 12.69
10 Tuscan 12.89
11 Spanish_Extremadura 12.95
12 West_German 13.05
13 Hungarian 13.38
14 Spanish_Murcia 13.46
15 South_Dutch 13.51
16 Austrian 13.85
17 Greek_Thessaly 14.24
18 East_German 14.48
19 Spanish_Valencia 15.19
20 Spanish_Andalucia 15.33
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59% French + 41% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.5
2 56.1% Greek_Thessaly + 43.9% Southwest_English @ 4.53
3 59.8% North_Italian + 40.2% Hungarian @ 4.97
4 51.5% South_Dutch + 48.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.1
5 58.1% Greek_Thessaly + 41.9% Southeast_English @ 5.28
6 52% Spanish_Galicia + 48% Romanian @ 5.32
7 52.6% West_German + 47.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.35
8 64.3% Tuscan + 35.7% Swedish @ 5.36
9 57.3% West_German + 42.7% Greek @ 5.39
10 50.4% Tuscan + 49.6% West_German @ 5.4
11 56.3% French + 43.7% Bulgarian @ 5.46
12 72.4% North_Italian + 27.6% Swedish @ 5.47
13 64.3% French + 35.7% Greek @ 5.5
14 62.6% North_Italian + 37.4% East_German @ 5.52
15 59.7% North_Italian + 40.3% West_German @ 5.53
16 53.5% Tuscan + 46.5% East_German @ 5.54
17 60.6% Greek_Thessaly + 39.4% Irish @ 5.59
18 62% Greek_Thessaly + 38% Orcadian @ 5.59
19 64.4% Tuscan + 35.6% Norwegian @ 5.63
20 72.1% North_Italian + 27.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5.63
Istrian Italian/minor Venetian (don't really consider them Northern Italians but it may still be of interest)
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 20.68
2 Baltic 19
3 North_Sea 17.78
4 West_Med 11.18
5 East_Med 10.52
6 Eastern_Euro 10.52
7 West_Asian 6.82
8 Red_Sea 1.55
9 South_Asian 1.39
10 Oceanian 0.4
11 Southeast_Asian 0.17
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 5.39
2 Serbian 5.52
3 Croatian 6.97
4 Romanian 7.31
5 Hungarian 7.39
6 Moldavian 8.26
7 Bulgarian 9.47
8 East_German 10.48
9 South_Polish 13.19
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.47
11 Ukrainian 14.38
12 South_Dutch 14.92
13 French 15.29
14 Polish 15.43
15 North_Italian 16.16
16 Russian_Smolensk 16.16
17 West_German 16.37
18 Greek_Thessaly 17.03
19 North_German 17.23
20 Spanish_Cataluna 17.28
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.3% Austrian + 34.7% Bulgarian @ 2.26
2 78.5% Austrian + 21.5% Greek @ 2.56
3 78.1% Austrian + 21.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.57
4 59.3% Austrian + 40.7% Romanian @ 2.69
5 54% Polish + 46% Tuscan @ 2.71
6 52.8% Russian_Smolensk + 47.2% Tuscan @ 2.77
7 50.6% Tuscan + 49.4% Belorussian @ 2.85
8 58% South_Polish + 42% Tuscan @ 2.88
9 50% Russian_Smolensk + 50% North_Italian @ 2.89
10 85.2% Austrian + 14.8% South_Italian @ 3
11 83.5% Austrian + 16.5% Central_Greek @ 3.02
12 84% Austrian + 16% East_Sicilian @ 3.06
13 53.4% North_Italian + 46.6% Belorussian @ 3.1
14 51.8% North_Italian + 48.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.11
15 89.4% Austrian + 10.6% Cyprian @ 3.14
16 71.8% Croatian + 28.2% North_Italian @ 3.16
17 74.1% Croatian + 25.9% Tuscan @ 3.16
18 87.6% Austrian + 12.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.19
19 52.3% North_Italian + 47.7% Southwest_Russian @ 3.19
20 55.2% Tuscan + 44.8% Lithuanian @ 3.21
---------------
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 20.72
2 Baltic 18.39
3 North_Sea 17.44
4 East_Med 12.4
5 West_Med 11.85
6 Eastern_Euro 10.73
7 West_Asian 6.6
8 South_Asian 1.12
9 Red_Sea 0.65
10 Oceanian 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.25
2 Austrian 6.57
3 Romanian 6.75
4 Croatian 8.19
5 Hungarian 8.5
6 Bulgarian 8.58
7 Moldavian 9.11
8 East_German 11.66
9 South_Polish 14.45
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.74
11 North_Italian 15.23
12 South_Dutch 15.46
13 French 15.49
14 Ukrainian 15.5
15 Greek_Thessaly 15.96
16 Greek 16.14
17 Polish 16.65
18 West_German 16.8
19 Spanish_Cataluna 16.9
20 Tuscan 16.94
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.5% Austrian + 27.5% Greek @ 2.56
2 57.7% Austrian + 42.3% Bulgarian @ 2.76
3 72.7% Austrian + 27.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.93
4 53.7% Tuscan + 46.3% Belorussian @ 2.94
5 50.6% Tuscan + 49.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.01
6 50.5% Polish + 49.5% Tuscan @ 3.05
7 81.1% Austrian + 18.9% South_Italian @ 3.24
8 58% Tuscan + 42% Lithuanian @ 3.24
9 54.2% South_Polish + 45.8% Tuscan @ 3.3
10 79.1% Austrian + 20.9% Central_Greek @ 3.35
11 53.9% Tuscan + 46.1% Estonian_Polish @ 3.36
12 50.9% Austrian + 49.1% Romanian @ 3.4
13 84% Austrian + 16% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.4
14 54.9% North_Italian + 45.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.47
15 86.5% Austrian + 13.5% Cyprian @ 3.47
16 79.9% Austrian + 20.1% East_Sicilian @ 3.48
17 55.4% North_Italian + 44.6% Southwest_Russian @ 3.48
18 69.1% Croatian + 30.9% Tuscan @ 3.51
19 53.4% North_Italian + 46.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.51
20 56.5% North_Italian + 43.5% Belorussian @ 3.6
Do u mind plotting me too?
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 5.91 Pct
Basque 1.57 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.15 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 11.77 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 2.15 Pct
East_Med 13.99 Pct
Eastern_Euro 3.88 Pct
Fennoscandian -
French 1.53 Pct
Iberian 13.05 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 23.09 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 4.26 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 1.18 Pct
North_Caucasian 0.18 Pct
North_Sea 3.94 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.17 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 2.52 Pct
West_Med 5.63 Pct
Udine
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 25.58
2 North_Sea 19.24
3 West_Med 16.47
4 Baltic 11.96
5 East_Med 11.62
6 West_Asian 7.58
7 Eastern_Euro 5.56
8 Red_Sea 1.47
9 Southeast_Asian 0.44
10 South_Asian 0.09
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 7.99
2 Spanish_Cataluna 8.41
3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 9.2
4 Portuguese 9.42
5 French 9.82
6 Spanish_Galicia 9.83
7 Spanish_Murcia 9.91
8 Spanish_Extremadura 9.95
9 Spanish_Valencia 10.53
10 Serbian 10.77
11 Spanish_Andalucia 11
12 Romanian 11.52
13 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 11.72
14 Austrian 11.93
15 Southwest_French 12.16
16 Spanish_Cantabria 12.17
17 Tuscan 12.29
18 South_Dutch 12.57
19 Bulgarian 12.61
20 Spanish_Aragon 13.23
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 41.7% Romanian @ 2.46
2 60.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 39.3% Bulgarian @ 2.73
3 60.9% North_Italian + 39.1% Austrian @ 2.95
4 53.7% Romanian + 46.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.98
5 56.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 43.9% Romanian @ 3.02
6 52.4% Spanish_Valencia + 47.6% Romanian @ 3.09
7 50.5% Romanian + 49.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.37
8 50.6% Spanish_Valencia + 49.4% Serbian @ 3.37
9 51.5% Romanian + 48.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.4
10 66.4% Romanian + 33.6% French_Basque @ 3.41
11 66.3% North_Italian + 33.7% East_German @ 3.46
12 51.5% Romanian + 48.5% Southwest_French @ 3.49
13 58.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 41.3% Bulgarian @ 3.49
14 54.2% Spanish_Murcia + 45.8% Romanian @ 3.55
15 57.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 42.9% Serbian @ 3.55
16 55.6% Serbian + 44.4% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.58
17 54.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 45.5% Serbian @ 3.64
18 57.6% Spanish_Andalucia + 42.4% Hungarian @ 3.65
19 52.4% Serbian + 47.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.72
20 50.6% Serbian + 49.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.75
Cuneo
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 30.35
2 Atlantic 22.46
3 West_Med 20.55
4 East_Med 10.14
5 Baltic 4.89
6 West_Asian 4.31
7 Red_Sea 2.82
8 Eastern_Euro 2.76
9 Amerindian 0.97
10 South_Asian 0.76
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Galicia 7.52
2 French 7.75
3 Portuguese 8.92
4 Spanish_Cataluna 9.98
5 Spanish_Extremadura 10.79
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 11.1
7 Spanish_Murcia 11.36
8 West_German 11.87
9 South_Dutch 12.68
10 North_Italian 12.75
11 Spanish_Cantabria 13.1
12 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 14.28
13 Spanish_Valencia 14.28
14 Southwest_English 14.58
15 Spanish_Andalucia 15.04
16 Spanish_Aragon 15.38
17 Southwest_French 15.5
18 Southeast_English 16.21
19 Tuscan 17.38
20 North_German 18.27
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76% West_German + 24% Sardinian @ 5.61
2 68.2% Spanish_Galicia + 31.8% West_German @ 5.76
3 82.1% Spanish_Galicia + 17.9% West_Norwegian @ 6.11
4 61.2% Portuguese + 38.8% West_German @ 6.19
5 80.5% Spanish_Galicia + 19.5% Orcadian @ 6.25
6 65.6% Orcadian + 34.4% Sardinian @ 6.27
7 88.1% French + 11.9% Sardinian @ 6.33
8 52.5% Spanish_Galicia + 47.5% French @ 6.37
9 82.8% Spanish_Galicia + 17.2% Norwegian @ 6.38
10 82.1% Spanish_Galicia + 17.9% North_Dutch @ 6.51
11 77.6% Spanish_Galicia + 22.4% Southwest_English @ 6.52
12 84.4% Spanish_Galicia + 15.6% Swedish @ 6.52
13 62.3% West_Norwegian + 37.7% Sardinian @ 6.58
14 80.5% Spanish_Galicia + 19.5% Southeast_English @ 6.61
15 53.6% Spanish_Extremadura + 46.4% West_German @ 6.64
16 83.4% Spanish_Galicia + 16.6% West_Scottish @ 6.66
17 83.6% Spanish_Galicia + 16.4% Danish @ 6.68
18 77.1% Portuguese + 22.9% West_Norwegian @ 6.68
19 83.7% Spanish_Galicia + 16.3% Irish @ 6.74
20 60.8% French + 39.2% Portuguese @ 6.81
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# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 25.12
2 Atlantic 23.76
3 West_Med 21.28
4 East_Med 9.73
5 Baltic 9.7
6 West_Asian 3.88
7 Eastern_Euro 3.15
8 South_Asian 1.22
9 Red_Sea 0.96
10 Amerindian 0.81
11 Sub-Saharan 0.23
12 Oceanian 0.17
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Galicia 5.41
2 Portuguese 6.42
3 Spanish_Cataluna 6.57
4 French 7.6
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 7.84
6 Spanish_Extremadura 8.56
7 Spanish_Murcia 8.88
8 North_Italian 9.54
9 Spanish_Cantabria 10.04
10 Spanish_Valencia 10.71
11 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 11.43
12 Spanish_Andalucia 11.46
13 Southwest_French 11.47
14 South_Dutch 12.26
15 Spanish_Aragon 12.47
16 West_German 13.1
17 Tuscan 15.28
18 Southwest_English 15.5
19 Serbian 15.7
20 East_German 16.32
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.9% West_German + 29.1% Sardinian @ 3.38
2 61.9% North_Dutch + 38.1% Sardinian @ 3.71
3 82.4% French + 17.6% Sardinian @ 3.79
4 63.6% North_German + 36.4% Sardinian @ 3.96
5 61.7% Danish + 38.3% Sardinian @ 4.18
6 72.8% South_Dutch + 27.2% Sardinian @ 4.23
7 58.8% Swedish + 41.2% Sardinian @ 4.45
8 62.4% Irish + 37.6% Sardinian @ 4.54
9 80.8% Spanish_Galicia + 19.2% West_German @ 4.55
10 85.3% Spanish_Galicia + 14.7% Hungarian @ 4.57
11 65.2% Southeast_English + 34.8% Sardinian @ 4.59
12 85.5% Spanish_Galicia + 14.5% East_German @ 4.71
13 73.8% Portuguese + 26.2% West_German @ 4.74
14 90.6% Spanish_Galicia + 9.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.77
15 59.6% Norwegian + 40.4% Sardinian @ 4.77
16 89.4% Spanish_Galicia + 10.6% Swedish @ 4.78
17 91% Spanish_Galicia + 9% Ukrainian @ 4.79
18 70.2% Spanish_Galicia + 29.8% French @ 4.79
19 89% Spanish_Galicia + 11% Moldavian @ 4.81
20 61.5% West_Scottish + 38.5% Sardinian @ 4.81
Trento
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 24.86
2 North_Sea 21.03
3 West_Med 17.9
4 East_Med 13.1
5 Baltic 11.28
6 Eastern_Euro 6.44
7 West_Asian 4.01
8 Red_Sea 1.25
9 Amerindian 0.13
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Cataluna 7.25
2 North_Italian 7.58
3 Portuguese 7.85
4 Spanish_Galicia 8.12
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 8.45
6 Spanish_Murcia 8.79
7 Spanish_Extremadura 8.91
8 French 9.09
9 Spanish_Valencia 9.95
10 Spanish_Andalucia 10.76
11 Spanish_Cantabria 11.4
12 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 11.4
13 Serbian 11.55
14 Southwest_French 11.68
15 South_Dutch 12.4
16 Tuscan 12.6
17 Spanish_Aragon 12.7
18 Austrian 12.99
19 Romanian 13.06
20 Bulgarian 14.15
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.8% Spanish_Cataluna + 37.2% Serbian @ 2.95
2 65.8% Spanish_Cataluna + 34.2% Romanian @ 3.01
3 76.6% North_Italian + 23.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.03
4 68% Spanish_Cataluna + 32% Bulgarian @ 3.23
5 68% North_Italian + 32% East_German @ 3.28
6 77.2% North_Italian + 22.8% North_Swedish @ 3.34
7 76.9% North_Italian + 23.1% Swedish @ 3.49
8 57.7% Spanish_Murcia + 42.3% Serbian @ 3.5
9 72.3% North_Italian + 27.7% North_German @ 3.56
10 64.4% Spanish_Murcia + 35.6% Hungarian @ 3.56
11 78.9% North_Italian + 21.1% Finnish @ 3.59
12 81.2% North_Italian + 18.8% Estonian @ 3.61
13 59% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 41% Serbian @ 3.65
14 68.3% Spanish_Murcia + 31.7% Moldavian @ 3.66
15 54.2% Spanish_Valencia + 45.8% Serbian @ 3.67
16 73.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 26.6% Moldavian @ 3.69
17 76.9% North_Italian + 23.1% Norwegian @ 3.7
18 74.8% North_Italian + 25.2% Danish @ 3.71
19 64.2% North_Italian + 35.8% South_Dutch @ 3.75
20 65.4% North_Italian + 34.6% Austrian @ 3.8
-------------------------
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 23.5
2 Atlantic 18.86
3 West_Med 18.27
4 Baltic 12.54
5 East_Med 12.02
6 West_Asian 7.79
7 Eastern_Euro 4.58
8 Red_Sea 1.13
9 Oceanian 1.03
10 Siberian 0.27
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 9.71
2 French 10.41
3 Spanish_Galicia 10.43
4 Serbian 10.47
5 Romanian 11.1
6 Portuguese 11.22
7 Spanish_Cataluna 11.76
8 Bulgarian 12.64
9 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 12.69
10 Tuscan 12.89
11 Spanish_Extremadura 12.95
12 West_German 13.05
13 Hungarian 13.38
14 Spanish_Murcia 13.46
15 South_Dutch 13.51
16 Austrian 13.85
17 Greek_Thessaly 14.24
18 East_German 14.48
19 Spanish_Valencia 15.19
20 Spanish_Andalucia 15.33
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59% French + 41% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.5
2 56.1% Greek_Thessaly + 43.9% Southwest_English @ 4.53
3 59.8% North_Italian + 40.2% Hungarian @ 4.97
4 51.5% South_Dutch + 48.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.1
5 58.1% Greek_Thessaly + 41.9% Southeast_English @ 5.28
6 52% Spanish_Galicia + 48% Romanian @ 5.32
7 52.6% West_German + 47.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.35
8 64.3% Tuscan + 35.7% Swedish @ 5.36
9 57.3% West_German + 42.7% Greek @ 5.39
10 50.4% Tuscan + 49.6% West_German @ 5.4
11 56.3% French + 43.7% Bulgarian @ 5.46
12 72.4% North_Italian + 27.6% Swedish @ 5.47
13 64.3% French + 35.7% Greek @ 5.5
14 62.6% North_Italian + 37.4% East_German @ 5.52
15 59.7% North_Italian + 40.3% West_German @ 5.53
16 53.5% Tuscan + 46.5% East_German @ 5.54
17 60.6% Greek_Thessaly + 39.4% Irish @ 5.59
18 62% Greek_Thessaly + 38% Orcadian @ 5.59
19 64.4% Tuscan + 35.6% Norwegian @ 5.63
20 72.1% North_Italian + 27.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5.63
K13 would be more preferable in this case (or rather both) but okay.
Sikeliot?
Yes, however the Italians as a whole are indeed more East Med than any Balkan nation for instance. Even Central Italians are well over 20%. Tuscany, Marche, Lazio, that kind of places.
IrisSelene_V3 is a lot closer to Serbs and Romanians than before.
vbnetkhio
11-09-2019, 04:27 PM
Do u mind plotting me too?
IrisSelene_V3 is a lot closer to Serbs and Romanians than before.
https://i.imgur.com/RQTy4Bz.png
Daos777
11-09-2019, 04:35 PM
Can mine be updated too?
vbnetkhio
11-09-2019, 07:00 PM
Can mine be updated too?
https://i.imgur.com/KYPcrsL.png
War Chef
11-09-2019, 07:05 PM
What is all this talk about Updated? What got updated Eurogenes k36?
Daos remains the same as far as I can see. No change.
vbnetkhio
11-09-2019, 07:10 PM
What is all this talk about Updated? What got updated Eurogenes k36?
i think by "update" Daos meant to zoom in on him so he can see which of the newly added people plot near him
War Chef
11-09-2019, 07:10 PM
As usual, I'm the genetic loner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yOsEzqt1U0
Daos777
11-09-2019, 08:15 PM
i think by "update" Daos meant to zoom in on him so he can see which of the newly added people plot near him
Yeah lol. Thanks man.
Daos777
11-09-2019, 08:20 PM
What is Stears2? Using different raw data?
vbnetkhio
11-09-2019, 08:22 PM
What is Stears2? Using different raw data?
yep, 23andme, the old one is Ancestry
Daos777
11-09-2019, 08:23 PM
yep, 23andme, the old one is Ancestry
Is ancestry more accurate? Because my raw data is 23 and me too.
Is ancestry more accurate? Because my raw data is 23 and me too.
You can convert it to V3 format, the results will be slightly different.
vbnetkhio
11-09-2019, 08:50 PM
Is ancestry more accurate? Because my raw data is 23 and me too.
yeah, the newest version raw data (23andme v5) is a little bit less adapted for gedmatch calculators but usually there's no big difference.
Stears is the most extreme plotting difference between different raw datas that i've seen.
Peterski
11-10-2019, 10:51 AM
Plese add these two Romans (Roman Republic, Iron Age B):
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?306223-Ancient-Rome-A-genetic-crossroads-of-Europe-and-the-Mediterranean&p=6324773&viewfull=1#post6324773
vbnetkhio
11-10-2019, 11:19 AM
Plese add these two Romans (Roman Republic, Iron Age B):
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?306223-Ancient-Rome-A-genetic-crossroads-of-Europe-and-the-Mediterranean&p=6324773&viewfull=1#post6324773
https://i.imgur.com/3pV4dHB.png
they both plot at the France/Spain border pretty much
Where will this American guy of mixed Indian and European ancestry end up plotting?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?294280-Half-South-Asian-half-white-boy-(GEDmatch-photos)
His Indian father
Zak_father
Amerindian 0.17 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian 0.14 Pct
Basque 0.37 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 1.80 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 0.08 Pct
French 0.89 Pct
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan 2.16 Pct
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 5.06 Pct
North_Sea 2.37 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 2.02 Pct
Omotic 1.33 Pct
Pygmy 0.20 Pct
Siberian -
South_Asian 54.03 Pct
South_Central_Asian 28.90 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.35 Pct
West_African 0.11 Pct
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -
His white American mother
Zak_mother
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 5.39 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.99 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.73 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 5.62 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 4.90 Pct
Fennoscandian 14.64 Pct
French 2.74 Pct
Iberian 12.38 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 12.24 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 13.98 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 21.09 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.11 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 0.18 Pct
Himself
Zak
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 3.86 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.57 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian 0.11 Pct
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 3.24 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 3.14 Pct
Fennoscandian 8.69 Pct
French 1.61 Pct
Iberian 6.14 Pct
Indo-Chinese 0.67 Pct
Italian 1.36 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 9.51 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 11.33 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.83 Pct
Omotic 0.73 Pct
Pygmy 0.27 Pct
Siberian -
South_Asian 25.82 Pct
South_Central_Asian 15.92 Pct
South_Chinese 0.17 Pct
Volga-Ural 0.96 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -
War Chef
11-10-2019, 02:28 PM
Where will this American guy of mixed Indian and European ancestry end up plotting?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?294280-Half-South-Asian-half-white-boy-(GEDmatch-photos)
His Indian father
Zak_father
Amerindian 0.17 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian 0.14 Pct
Basque 0.37 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 1.80 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 0.08 Pct
French 0.89 Pct
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan 2.16 Pct
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 5.06 Pct
North_Sea 2.37 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 2.02 Pct
Omotic 1.33 Pct
Pygmy 0.20 Pct
Siberian -
South_Asian 54.03 Pct
South_Central_Asian 28.90 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.35 Pct
West_African 0.11 Pct
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -
His white American mother
Zak_mother
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 5.39 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.99 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.73 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 5.62 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 4.90 Pct
Fennoscandian 14.64 Pct
French 2.74 Pct
Iberian 12.38 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 12.24 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 13.98 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 21.09 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.11 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 0.18 Pct
Himself
Zak
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 3.86 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.57 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian 0.11 Pct
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 3.24 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 3.14 Pct
Fennoscandian 8.69 Pct
French 1.61 Pct
Iberian 6.14 Pct
Indo-Chinese 0.67 Pct
Italian 1.36 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 9.51 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 11.33 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.83 Pct
Omotic 0.73 Pct
Pygmy 0.27 Pct
Siberian -
South_Asian 25.82 Pct
South_Central_Asian 15.92 Pct
South_Chinese 0.17 Pct
Volga-Ural 0.96 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -
Such a mix doesn't exist in the globe, but Turkey or Turkmenistan is my guess. Some European Roma also
Such a mix doesn't exist in the globe, but Turkey or Turkmenistan is my guess. Some European Roma also
Yeah but a PCA is not exactly in line with geography. It will simply place him right between his mother's and father's clusters, just like any other interracial mix. A Finnish mulatto would be situated somewhere between Finland and West Africa for example.
vbnetkhio
11-11-2019, 09:11 AM
Where will this American guy of mixed Indian and European ancestry end up plotting?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?294280-Half-South-Asian-half-white-boy-(GEDmatch-photos)
His Indian father
Zak_father
Amerindian 0.17 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian 0.14 Pct
Basque 0.37 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 1.80 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 0.08 Pct
French 0.89 Pct
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan 2.16 Pct
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 5.06 Pct
North_Sea 2.37 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 2.02 Pct
Omotic 1.33 Pct
Pygmy 0.20 Pct
Siberian -
South_Asian 54.03 Pct
South_Central_Asian 28.90 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.35 Pct
West_African 0.11 Pct
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -
His white American mother
Zak_mother
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 5.39 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.99 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.73 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 5.62 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 4.90 Pct
Fennoscandian 14.64 Pct
French 2.74 Pct
Iberian 12.38 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 12.24 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 13.98 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 21.09 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.11 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 0.18 Pct
Himself
Zak
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 3.86 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.57 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian 0.11 Pct
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 3.24 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 3.14 Pct
Fennoscandian 8.69 Pct
French 1.61 Pct
Iberian 6.14 Pct
Indo-Chinese 0.67 Pct
Italian 1.36 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 9.51 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 11.33 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.83 Pct
Omotic 0.73 Pct
Pygmy 0.27 Pct
Siberian -
South_Asian 25.82 Pct
South_Central_Asian 15.92 Pct
South_Chinese 0.17 Pct
Volga-Ural 0.96 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -
https://i.imgur.com/z1Rln7V.png
Nice project! Here are my results:
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.39 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.60 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 26.64 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 14.46 Pct
Fennoscandian 34.98 Pct
French 5.93 Pct
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 1.13 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 4.79 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic 0.31 Pct
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.78 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -
vbnetkhio
11-19-2019, 02:49 PM
Nice project! Here are my results:
https://i.imgur.com/j13Wq6J.png
Luke35
11-19-2019, 03:19 PM
yeah, the newest version raw data (23andme v5) is a little bit less adapted for gedmatch calculators but usually there's no big difference.
Stears is the most extreme plotting difference between different raw datas that i've seen.
Yeah Stears moved quite a bit, and IrisSelene also had a substantial shift.
https://i.imgur.com/j13Wq6J.png
Interesting. I compared my kit to DA171's and there was no matching DNA. Somehow we have highly similar ancestry in terms of percentages, but no shared DNA whatsoever?
vbnetkhio
11-19-2019, 06:42 PM
Interesting. I compared my kit to DA171's and there was no matching DNA. Somehow we have highly similar ancestry in terms of percentages, but no shared DNA whatsoever?
which snp and cm thresholds? and how many snps used for the comparison
@Vari, what is your branch of R1a?
which snp and cm thresholds? and how many snps used for the comparison
"No shared DNA segments found
31208 SNPs used for this comparison."
cM is 7. Tried different settings too, but no change.
@Leto - m417
..
Lol, AlexRus (Sche) plotting right next to you and he has been insulting you all the time about being mongoloid :laugh:xD
Lol, AlexRus (Sche) plotting right next to you and he has been insulting you all the time about being mongoloid :laugh:xD
That's my brother-in-law though, not me. I won't falsely claim anything about that guy like he does about me. He actually represents Western-Central Russia quite well.
His ancestry is not a problem, his trolling is.
yeah, the newest version raw data (23andme v5) is a little bit less adapted for gedmatch calculators but usually there's no big difference.
Stears is the most extreme plotting difference between different raw datas that i've seen.
He always claimed his Ancestry data is not legit and something went wrong with it. He claimed he will be more northern with 23andme, and interestingly it happened.
Lol, AlexRus (Sche) plotting right next to you and he has been insulting you all the time about being mongoloid :laugh:xD
Who is Alex Rus? AlexRus is next to the Poles of Sudovia (Balts by origin) and to Belarusian father Leto. The Mongoloid Leto himself is next to the Chuvashs. Stop trolling and take off that nasty avatar.
That's my brother-in-law though, not me. I won't falsely claim anything about that guy like he does about me. He actually represents Western-Central Russia quite well.
His ancestry is not a problem, his trolling is.
I know. But it is funny how he pretends to be pure Slavic and he isn't, look how close he plots with Lithuanians and Sudovian Poles (who have heavy Baltic input).
He is only person who seems to have problem with the fact he isn't only Slavic, all the rest of us embrace our ancestry.
vbnetkhio
11-19-2019, 07:39 PM
"No shared DNA segments found
31208 SNPs used for this comparison."
cM is 7. Tried different settings too, but no change.
@Leto - m417
31208 SNPs is low quality. good enough for approximate k36 results but not good enough for ibd mathcing.
Who is Alex Rus? AlexRus is next to the Poles of Sudovia (Balts by origin) and to Belarusian father Leto. The Mongoloid Leto himself is next to the Chuvashs. Stop trolling and take off that nasty avatar.
It is you.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?307310-classify-pure-Slavs
Too bad you are not from Oryol, as you have ''Baltic impurities'' :rofl_002:
And Leto doesn't plot with Chuvash, troll.
Who is Alex Rus? AlexRus is next to the Poles of Sudovia (Balts by origin) and to Belarusian father Leto. The Mongoloid Leto himself is next to the Chuvashs. Stop trolling and take off that nasty avatar.
The Chuvash average did not even make it into that cropped picture.
Get the hell out of here, you idiot! I won't let you turn this great thread into shit.
Omanvassal
11-19-2019, 07:44 PM
And Leto doesn't plot with Chuvash, troll.
Disgusting avatar, the definition of smieci
I know. But it is funny how he pretends to be pure Slavic and he isn't, look how close he plots with Lithuanians and Sudovian Poles (who have heavy Baltic input).
He is only person who seems to have problem with the fact he isn't only Slavic, all the rest of us embrace our ancestry.
Your definition of Slavicness is extremely purist :D
The closest thing I could find is the person I titled "Balto-Slav". His distance to the "SW Russian" is like 2.3 or so on Eurogenes. He is one of the "purest" Russians/East Slavs I've seen.
31208 SNPs is low quality. good enough for approximate k36 results but not good enough for ibd mathcing.
Ah OK. That makes sense.
Disgusting avatar, the definition of smieci
Cuman, and why are you trolling? If you have nothing to say about the map, please leave.
Your definition of Slavicness is extremely purist :D
The closest thing I could find is the person I titled "Balto-Slav". His distance to the "SW Russian" is like 2.3 or so on Eurogenes. He is one of the "purest" Russians/East Slavs I've seen.
:)
PS: I reported the sock account. Let's not bother with them.
Omanvassal
11-19-2019, 07:50 PM
:)
PS: I reported the sock account. Let's not bother with them.
What kind of Slavs score orange for France? I am talking about the recent Ph2ter map..
Omanvassal
11-19-2019, 07:50 PM
Cuman, and why are you trolling? If you have nothing to say about the map, please leave.
Oh I have alot to say
Omanvassal
11-19-2019, 07:57 PM
Cricket cricket cricket..
Oh I have alot to say
You barely plot with Poles or Slavic Russians, dude
https://i.imgur.com/oU8P8QE.png
And Leto doesn't plot with Chuvash, troll.
Mother Leto is next to the Tatar mestizo Norka. The contribution of the Mongoloids to DNA Leto is very high.
ЗЫ This guy Leto wants to become a Pole ... But he will be him only in a dream. It’s funny for me to watch this guy suffer from his high Siberian component. By the way, the Mongoloid is not an insult, it is the name of the race.
I do not know who AlexRus is and why you are trying to insult me in this thread.:coffee:
Omanvassal
11-19-2019, 08:06 PM
You barely plot with Poles or Slavic Russians, dude
What are you saying, what is your point? I score 99-100% Eastern Europe AncestryDNA, FTDNA, LivingDNA or I did at some point with previous updates. When you find one Yugos that have this much we can talk about it
Omanvassal
11-19-2019, 08:08 PM
Mother Leto is next to the Tatar mestizo Norka. The contribution of the Mongoloids to DNA Leto is very high.
ЗЫ This guy Leto wants to become a Pole ... But he will be him only in a dream. It’s funny for me to watch this guy suffer from his high Siberian component. By the way, the Mongoloid is not an insult, it is the name of the race.
I do not know who AlexRus is and why you are trying to insult me in this thread.:coffee:
Nice, I been trying to tell him exactly that cause he is annoying little mingolian goof but I lack this patience to explain these keyboard warriors
What are you saying, what is your point? I score 99-100% Eastern Europe AncestryDNA, FTDNA, LivingDNA or I did at some point with previous updates. When you find one Yugos that have this much we can talk about it
Feiichy posted a Croat with a whopping 38% Baltic. Also MaxSoldo who used to read TA scored 37%. Maybe they would be close to you.
Mother Leto is next to the Tatar mestizo Norka. The contribution of the Mongoloids to DNA Leto is very high.
ЗЫ This guy Leto wants to become a Pole ... But he will be him only in a dream. It’s funny for me to watch this guy suffer from his high Siberian component. By the way, the Mongoloid is not an insult, it is the name of the race.
I do not know who AlexRus is and why you are trying to insult me in this thread.:coffee:
Both of them look more northern European than more purely Slavic TA memers from Poland and Ukraine. Norka is actually very East Nordid while Leto is Balto-Nordid.
They are fairier than pure Slavic Russians from Oryol.
Finnic and Baltic admixture makes Russians whiter. :thumb001:
Omanvassal
11-19-2019, 08:12 PM
Feiichy posted a Croat with a whopping 38% Baltic. Also MaxSoldo who used to read TA scored 37%. Maybe they would be close to you.
I have 45%, my 1/4 Jewish Mother has 46%
So tell me now what is 30%
There was also very Nordic-Baltic looking Russian member from Orenburg and he had distinctive Russian look, not very Slavic. Such Russians are more northern people than brunet pure Slavs from SW Russia.
I'm very happy Stears is part Uralic, it halped make our son very white looking :)
Norka is 3/4 Northern and Ural Russian and his Tatar side seems to have been fairly atypical for Crimea, he realized it himself. It's no surprise that my mother is similar to him if he is predominantly Northern Russian.
There was also very Nordic-Baltic looking Russian member from Orenburg and he had distinctive Russian look, not very Slavic. Such Russians are more northern people than brunet pure Slavs from SW Russia.
I'm very happy Stears is part Uralic, it halped make our son very white looking :)
Orenburg is a very mixed, Eastern region. Large Kazakh and Bashkir communities & also many Mordovians and Ukrainians but they're mostly Russified now.
vbnetkhio
11-19-2019, 08:20 PM
I have 45%, my 1/4 Jewish Mother has 46%
So tell me now what is 30%
you are Jewish, Polish, Vlach, Cossack, Slovak, Hungarian, Scythian and Cuman, and Feiichy is a fake Slav because she is moderately similar to the French? :scratch:
There was also very Nordic-Baltic looking Russian member from Orenburg and he had distinctive Russian look, not very Slavic. Such Russians are more northern people than brunet pure Slavs from SW Russia.
I'm very happy Stears is part Uralic, it halped make our son very white looking :)
Have you seen Sarmatian? He is a Don Cossack and extremely blonde, lighter than me.
Have you seen Sarmatian? He is a Don Cossack and extremely blonde, lighter than me.
Yes, he is platinum blond and with extreme ''Kurgan'' features. But I can't imagine man like him being typical there.
Omanvassal
11-19-2019, 08:25 PM
you are Jewish, Polish, Vlach, Cossack, Slovak, Hungarian, Scythian and Cuman, and Feiichy is a fake Slav because she is moderately similar to the French? :scratch:
They are fake Slavs, they are calling German ancestors Slavs that came from Austrian Empire, that have similarity with a French and British Isles too
you are Jewish, Polish, Vlach, Cossack, Slovak, Hungarian, Scythian and Cuman, and Feiichy is a fake Slav because she is moderately similar to the French? :scratch:
Lol. He claims me and Stears look like ''dirty Germans'', and I even have very minimal to null German component. I don't know why though, maybe recombination.
Yes, he is platinum blond and with extreme ''Kurgan'' features. But I can't imagine man like him being typical there.
Well, they don't look like Bakha either (he said he could pass as a Southern Russian but obviously he can't pass as any European). SSlava is a Caucasus Russian from Stavropol krai, on the map he is the most Western shifted Russian.
Omanvassal
11-19-2019, 08:28 PM
Lol. He claims me and Stears look like ''dirty Germans'', and I even have very minimal to null German component. I don't know why though, maybe recombination.
Your profile it speaks for itself
Germans, check
Dirty, check
Well, they don't look like Bakha either (he said he could pass as a Southern Russian but obviously he can't pass as any European). SSlava is a Caucasus Russian from Stavropol krai, on the map he is the most Western shifted Russian.
Bakha looks mena.
My G25 similarity map, interestingly heat peaks in Slovakia, after than in Croatia/Bosnia. Very true Croatian :)
https://i.imgur.com/hpQr9Wy.png
No particular affinity for France, lol.
War Chef
11-19-2019, 08:44 PM
Bakha looks mena.
My G25 similarity map, interestingly heat peaks in Slovakia, after than in Croatia/Bosnia. Very true Croatian :)
https://i.imgur.com/hpQr9Wy.png
No particular affinity for France, lol.
I always knew it. Yugoslavs came from Slovakia/southern Poland.
Well, they don't look like Bakha either (he said he could pass as a Southern Russian but obviously he can't pass as any European). SSlava is a Caucasus Russian from Stavropol krai, on the map he is the most Western shifted Russian.
Sslava has Ukrainian roots, so he is in the south.
My G25 similarity map, interestingly heat peaks in Slovakia, after than in Croatia/Bosnia. Very true Croatian :)
[img]https://i.imgur.com/hpQr9Wy.png
No particular affinity for France, lol.
And Slovenians are even more Western. The other day you were fiercely denying their proximity to West Slavs. I guess you were in a mad mood xD
And Slovenians are even more Western. The other day you were fiercely denying their proximity to West Slavs. I guess you were in a mad mood xD
I just wanted to say they are very close to us, especially north Croats (genetically). I get more Slovenian than Croatian on 23andme, and I am just 1/16 northern Croat.
On Global 25 my closest match are Slovenian samples (one of them from NE Italy)
Feiichy posted a Croat with a whopping 38% Baltic. Also MaxSoldo who used to read TA scored 37%. Maybe they would be close to you.
@Feiichy, maybe you could have this one added? Title him somehow.
Croatian
Admix Results (sorted):
1 Baltic 38.63
2 North_Atlantic 24.5
3 West_Med 13.9
4 East_Med 13.81
5 West_Asian 4.95
6 Red_Sea 3.29
7 Oceanian 0.69
8 South_Asian 0.24
Single Population Sharing:
1 Croatian 6.01
2 Moldavian 7.28
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.91
4 Ukrainian 9.61
5 South_Polish 9.88
6 Hungarian 10.31
7 Serbian 11.26
8 Southwest_Russian 11.93
9 Polish 12.37
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.66
11 Russian_Smolensk 13.62
12 Estonian_Polish 13.73
13 Belorussian 14.3
14 East_German 14.3
15 Romanian 14.51
16 Austrian 14.56
17 Bulgarian 15.9
18 Kargopol_Russian 16.83
19 Erzya 18.14
20 Lithuanian 18.82
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
1 74.7% Estonian_Polish + 25.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.86
2 68.1% Lithuanian + 31.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.89
3 74.8% Estonian_Polish + 25.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.91
4 68.2% Lithuanian + 31.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.93
5 73.9% Belorussian + 26.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 3
6 70.8% Estonian_Polish + 29.2% Ashkenazi @ 3.15
7 63.7% Lithuanian + 36.3% Ashkenazi @ 3.29
8 63.2% Belorussian + 36.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.29
9 64.2% Estonian_Polish + 35.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.32
10 75% Russian_Smolensk + 25% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.34
11 70.7% Estonian_Polish + 29.3% East_Sicilian @ 3.38
12 74.1% Belorussian + 25.9% Italian_Jewish @ 3.38
13 75.1% Estonian_Polish + 24.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.42
14 75.1% Russian_Smolensk + 24.9% Italian_Jewish @ 3.46
15 56.4% Lithuanian + 43.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.48
16 69.8% Belorussian + 30.2% East_Sicilian @ 3.49
17 70% Belorussian + 30% Ashkenazi @ 3.49
18 72.7% Estonian_Polish + 27.3% South_Italian @ 3.5
19 70.1% Estonian_Polish + 29.9% Central_Greek @ 3.55
20 71.1% Russian_Smolensk + 28.9% Ashkenazi @ 3.55
dududud
11-19-2019, 09:19 PM
Mother:
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 1.87 Pct
Basque 4.20 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 1.72 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 4.97 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 1.53 Pct
East_Med 7.92 Pct
Eastern_Euro 2.23 Pct
Fennoscandian 2.71 Pct
French 9.09 Pct
Iberian 16.92 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.87 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 1.17 Pct
North_Atlantic 9.67 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 3.30 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 16.81 Pct
Father:
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 3.46 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 2.34 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 8.10 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 7.27 Pct
French 7.16 Pct
Iberian 23.53 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 13.62 Pct
Malayan 0.12 Pct
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 12.56 Pct
North_Caucasian 1.55 Pct
North_Sea 18.35 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.19 Pct
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.59 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 0.18 Pct
Me:
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 3.26 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.07 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 7.81 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 0.85 Pct
East_Med 2.84 Pct
Eastern_Euro 0.62 Pct
Fennoscandian 2.58 Pct
French 9.46 Pct
Iberian 22.43 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 17.29 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 0.25 Pct
North_Atlantic 8.45 Pct
North_Caucasian 1.80 Pct
North_Sea 7.78 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.08 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 10.43 Pct
...
Chief, you are quite close to asuvis (half Western Georgian, quarter Carpathian Rusyn, quarter Southern French from what I could gather)
https://i.imgur.com/abrGHz2.png
You aren't alone anymore :)
vbnetkhio
11-19-2019, 11:46 PM
Mother:
https://i.imgur.com/USN629A.png
Add this guy Nico Nobrix
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.45 Pct
Armenian -
Basque 3.90 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.30 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.19 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 1.09 Pct
East_Med 6.35 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 0.52 Pct
French 5.27 Pct
Iberian 27.51 Pct
Indo-Chinese 0.36 Pct
Italian 10.41 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 5.47 Pct
North_Atlantic 10.75 Pct
North_Caucasian 1.46 Pct
North_Sea 7.28 Pct
Northeast_African 3.29 Pct
Oceanian 0.06 Pct
Omotic 0.98 Pct
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese 0.22 Pct
Volga-Ural 0.55 Pct
West_African 1.24 Pct
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 7.36 Pct
vbnetkhio
11-21-2019, 02:31 PM
Add this guy Nico Nobrix
https://i.imgur.com/cjQ6ReM.png
PAGANE
11-21-2019, 03:14 PM
Here are two more Bulgarian results
Kit BG-1P
<tbody>
Population
Amerindian
-
Arabian
1.92 Pct
Armenian
1.98 Pct
Basque
-
Central_African
-
Central_Euro
2.86 Pct
East_African
-
East_Asian
-
East_Balkan
8.97 Pct
East_Central_Asian
-
East_Central_Euro
7.50 Pct
East_Med
7.15 Pct
Eastern_Euro
5.96 Pct
Fennoscandian
8.47 Pct
French
2.45 Pct
Iberian
3.95 Pct
Indo-Chinese
-
Italian
22.90 Pct
Malayan
-
Near_Eastern
3.87 Pct
North_African
-
North_Atlantic
2.37 Pct
North_Caucasian
3.60 Pct
North_Sea
2.45 Pct
Northeast_African
-
Oceanian
-
Omotic
-
Pygmy
-
Siberian
-
South_Asian
-
South_Central_Asian
0.93 Pct
South_Chinese
-
Volga-Ural
-
West_African
-
West_Caucasian
5.20 Pct
West_Med
7.47 Pct
</tbody>
Kit BG-2S
<tbody>
Population
Amerindian
-
Arabian
0.60 Pct
Armenian
3.27 Pct
Basque
-
Central_African
-
Central_Euro
5.71 Pct
East_African
-
East_Asian
-
East_Balkan
10.55 Pct
East_Central_Asian
-
East_Central_Euro
11.12 Pct
East_Med
11.26 Pct
Eastern_Euro
10.48 Pct
Fennoscandian
4.14 Pct
French
3.98 Pct
Iberian
6.18 Pct
Indo-Chinese
-
Italian
15.81 Pct
Malayan
-
Near_Eastern
2.84 Pct
North_African
-
North_Atlantic
4.28 Pct
North_Caucasian
0.82 Pct
North_Sea
0.61 Pct
Northeast_African
-
Oceanian
-
Omotic
-
Pygmy
-
Siberian
-
South_Asian
-
South_Central_Asian
-
South_Chinese
-
Volga-Ural
-
West_African
-
West_Caucasian
2.84 Pct
West_Med
5.51 Pc
</tbody>
Arhat
11-22-2019, 10:46 AM
There was also very Nordic-Baltic looking Russian member from Orenburg and he had distinctive Russian look, not very Slavic. Such Russians are more northern people than brunet pure Slavs from SW Russia.
I'm very happy Stears is part Uralic, it halped make our son very white looking :)
What are you talking about? Most Russians are just descendants of Slavic immigrants from the southwest with minor local admixture. Nordic-Baltic phenotypes are not correlating with Uralic admixture and generally phenotypes dont really say much about admixture. Stears dont really has much Uralic admixture. An Ukrainian has even more than him. Orenburg is a pretty recently colonized region and most Russians there are a mix of very different East Slavic groups. Russians from Siberia or the Far East can be genetically more western than Russians from the Urals or North Russia.
What are you talking about? Most Russians are just descendants of Slavic immigrants from the southwest with minor local admixture. Orenburg is a pretty recently colonized region and most Russians there are a mix of very different East Slavic groups. Russians from Siberia or the Far East can be genetically more western than Russians from the Urals or North Russia.
Minor? He looked like Russian who is unpassable in Poland and Ukraine, so he probably has lot of local admixture.
Natives of European Russia were lighter and more northern genetically than Slavic immmigrants, period.
What are you talking about? Most Russians are just descendants of Slavic immigrants from the southwest with minor local admixture. Nordic-Baltic phenotypes are not correlating with Uralic admixture and generally phenotypes dont really say much about admixture. Stears dont really has much Uralic admixture. An Ukrainian has even more than him. Orenburg is a pretty recently colonized region and most Russians there are a mix of very different East Slavic groups. Russians from Siberia or the Far East can be genetically more western than Russians from the Urals or North Russia.
Early waves of immigrants to Siberia after 1600 were from Northern Russia. Also, there was some mixing with the natives, particularly Eastern Siberia has quite a few "mongrelized" people (Buryat ancestry for example). More recent settlers can be from anywhere in Russia or even Ukraine/Belarus.
Minor? He looked like Russian who is unpassable in Poland and Ukraine, so he probably has lot of local admixture.
Natives of European Russia were lighter and more northern genetically than Slavic immmigrants, period.
What do you mean by unpassable? Did he look part Asian?
Ukraine was 22% Russian in 1989 (the last Soviet census), it's a diverse country, not everyone there is a pure khokhol. Also, Ukrainians in Russia assimilate and start identifying as Russian very quickly. In Russia people barely separate them from ethnic Russians, practically the same people.
Arhat
11-22-2019, 11:00 AM
Minor? He looked like Russian who is unpassable in Poland and Ukraine, so he probably has lot of local admixture.
Natives of European Russia were lighter and more northern genetically than Slavic immmigrants, period.
Phenotypes say nothing about how much Uralic admixture an individual has. We dont even know how pre-Slavs in Russia looked actually because all Uralic people in European Russia are mixed either with Balto-Slavs, steppe people/Tatars or Scandinavians. We dont even have genomes from Pre-Slavs outside of the steppe region and the Baltics. Mordovians for example can be modelled with almost 50% early Slavic admixture and Mari have a lot of recent tatar-like ancestry.
What do you mean by unpassable? Did he look part Asian?
Ukraine was 22% Russian in 1989 (the last Soviet census), it's a diverse country, not everyone there is a pure khokhol. Also, Ukrainians in Russia assimilate and start identifying as Russian very quickly. In Russian people barely separate them from ethnic Russians, practically the same people.
No, he was very Nordid with some Baltid. But he looked like Russian with obvious Finnic admixture. Very northern looking.
Phenotypes say nothing about how much Uralic admixture an individual has. We dont even know how pre-Slavs in Russia looked actually because all Uralic people in European Russia are mixed either with Balto-Slavs, steppe people/Tatars or Scandinavians. We dont even have genomes from Pre-Slavs outside of the steppe region. Mordovians for example can be modelled with almost 50% early Slavic admixture and Mari have a lot of recent tatar-like ancestry.
If you look at photos of very genetically Slavic SW Russians I posted recently (who are practically pure Slavs), they are quite brunet and look more east-central than northeastern Europeans.
Phenotypes mean nothing in individuals, but in groups yes. This group could blend in easily in much of eastern europe.
There are lot of very northern looking Russians who don't have exactly Slavic features and wouldn't look local in Ukraine or Poland. They don't look Asian, but more like Finns.
I saw such group this summer and it was obvious they are Russians. And they were much blonder than other slavic groups.
Can't understand why some Russians look down on Finnic peoples, it's strange.
If you look at photos of very genetically Slavic SW Russians I posted recently (who are practically pure Slavs), they are quite brunet and look more east-central than northeastern Europeans.
Phenotypes mean nothing in individuals, but in groups yes. This group could blend in easily in much of eastern europe.
There are lot of very northern looking Russians who don't have exactly Slavic features and wouldn't look local in Ukraine or Poland. They don't look Asian, but more like Finns.
I saw such group this summer and it was obvious they are Russians.
Can't understand why some Russians look down on Finnic peoples, it's strange.
What I don't like is that some people think Russians look like hapas on average, that's not true. I've posted a few Russian GEDmatch results but they still don't care, idiots like CV still think we are half Mongolian.
Finno-Ugric is a linguistic term, it's a language family (Uralic), not a race.
Arhat
11-22-2019, 11:09 AM
Minor? He looked like Russian who is unpassable in Poland and Ukraine, so he probably has lot of local admixture.
Natives of European Russia were lighter and more northern genetically than Slavic immmigrants, period.
Most Russians are from Central and South Russia. The core of the historical proto-russian state was the region of the "Golgen ring cities" with cities like Vladimir, Suzdal,Yaroslavl,.. . So the phenotypes and genomes of Russians from these regions would be most representative for ethnic Russians. Russians from these places just cluster slightly east of Belarusians and North Ukrainians.
What I don't like is that some people think Russians look like hapas on average, that's not true. I've posted a few Russian GEDmatch results but they still don't care, idiots like CV still think we are half Mongolian.
If central Russian is average Russian, than it's overwhelmingly Slavic with little local (Finn) admix. And probably some Baltic.
Most Russians are from Central and South Russia. The core of the historical proto-russian state was the region of the "Golgen ring cities" with cities like Vladimir, Suzdal,Yaroslavl,.. . So the phenotypes and genomes of Russians from these regions would be most representative for ethnic Russians. Russians from these places just cluster slightly east of Belarusians and North Ukrainians.
What do you think, how did genetics of-pre Slavic Russia's inhabitants looked like? I mean European Russia.
Arhat
11-22-2019, 11:13 AM
If you look at photos of very genetically Slavic SW Russians I posted recently (who are practically pure Slavs), they are quite brunet and look more east-central than northeastern Europeans.
Phenotypes mean nothing in individuals, but in groups yes. This group could blend in easily in much of eastern europe.
There are lot of very northern looking Russians who don't have exactly Slavic features and wouldn't look local in Ukraine or Poland. They don't look Asian, but more like Finns.
I saw such group this summer and it was obvious they are Russians. And they were much blonder than other slavic groups.
Can't understand why some Russians look down on Finnic peoples, it's strange.
Russians from Central Russia up to Ivanovo and Kostroma also look like SW Russians and can cluster with Ukrainians and Belarusians. My wife is from Vladimir and clustering with Ukrainians from Belgorod and Belarusians.
Nobody is looking down on Uralics. I was dissappointed that i and my wife lack significant Uralic admixture but presenting Russians as very different from other Slavs and mostly descendants of Uralics is simply not supported by hard facts.
War Chef
11-22-2019, 11:14 AM
What do you think, how did genetics of-pre Slavic Russia's inhabitants looked like? I mean European Russia.
Very sparsely populated. It wasn't like the Balkans, where after Justinian's plague there was still a sizable population density.
Very sparsely populated. It wasn't like the Balkans, where after Justinian's plague there was still a sizable population density.
No, western Balkans had low population after wars and plagues and that is why we cluster so northern for our geographic position (which is more south than northern Italy)
Arhat
11-22-2019, 11:17 AM
What do you think, how did genetics of-pre Slavic Russia's inhabitants looked like? I mean European Russia.
Honestly i dont know. We only have pre-slavs genomes from the Baltics and from Sarmatians who are both probably not representative for pre-Slavs in other parts of Russia. I guess they were between Udmurts, Sarmatians and Baltic-Finnic people from a genetic point of view. But probably with a higher Caucasian-element which still shows up among Central Russians.
Russians from Central Russia up to Ivanovo and Kostroma also look like SW Russians and can cluster with Ukrainians and Belarusians. My wife is from Vladimir and clustering with Ukrainians from Belgorod and Belarusians.
Nobody is looking down on Uralics. I was dissappointed that i and my wife lack significant Uralic admixture but presenting Russians as very different from other Slavs and mostly descendants of Uralics is simply not supported by hard facts.
Who is presenting that? It's rather some Russian members trolling west and south Slavs. Like idiot Sche and Laag, who is probably not Russian but Finno-Ugric minority.
Who is presenting that? It's rather some Russian members trolling west and south Slavs. Like idiot Sche and Laag, who is probably not Russian but Finno-Ugric minority.
I disavow all of those idiots, the only sane person from Russia I know of is Not a Cop, the rest of the trolls can pretty much go to hell. They don't represent anyone but themselves.
I disavow all of those idiots, the only sane person from Russia I know of is Not a Cop, the rest of the trolls can pretty much go to hell. They don't represent anyone but themselves.
Laag is trying to present Nenets as Aryans xD
Don't worry, we know these two are loonies. Not a Cop great member.
Russians from Central Russia up to Ivanovo and Kostroma also look like SW Russians and can cluster with Ukrainians and Belarusians. My wife is from Vladimir and clustering with Ukrainians from Belgorod and Belarusians.
Nobody is looking down on Uralics. I was dissappointed that i and my wife lack significant Uralic admixture but presenting Russians as very different from other Slavs and mostly descendants of Uralics is simply not supported by hard facts.
As a Steppe supremacist you should be glad that your ancestry is from Ukraine and Southern Russia :cool: I also find your Afghan R1a quarter fascinating, some real Aryan connection.
Laag is trying to present Nenets as Aryans xD
Don't worry, we we know these two are loonies. Not a Cop great member.
I'm not familiar with Laag, he doesn't seem to care about DNA and I don't care about taxonomy, so our paths don't cross. But as a general rule Russians online tend to speak poor English and have weird views, some are absolutely ridiculous (remember Lyssy, he was from Ukraine but Russian-speaking).
Arhat
11-22-2019, 11:35 AM
As a Steppe supremacist you should be glad that your ancestry is from Ukraine and Southern Russia :cool: I also find your Afghan R1a quarter fascinating, some real Aryan connection.
My Afghan R1a-Y3 line was found 7000 years ago near Kursk and Kharkov from where my grandmother and the paternal-grand-grandfather of my wife is from. It was a long tour for my line:cool:
War Chef
11-22-2019, 11:38 AM
No, western Balkans had low population after wars and plagues and that is why we cluster so northern for our geographic position (which is more south than northern Italy)
Incorrect.
The Russians don't cluster so far east. They cluster like the original source Slavic population. Meaning there was nothing to absorb.
Balkan Slavs are only like 2/3 Slavic, 1/3 Paleo-Balkan. 3/4 : 1/4 if lucky.
Incorrect.
The Russians don't cluster so far east. They cluster like the original source Slavic population. Meaning there was nothing to absorb.
Balkan Slavs are only like 2/3 Slavic, 1/3 Paleo-Balkan. 3/4 : 1/4 if lucky.
No, you are incorrect. I didn't mention Russians, I said we are very northern for our geographic location and that my region was quite depopulated.
And Russians are not pure Slavic on average.
Balkans Slavs have more diversity than east and west Slavs lol.
Incorrect.
The Russians don't cluster so far east. They cluster like the original source Slavic population. Meaning there was nothing to absorb.
Balkan Slavs are only like 2/3 Slavic, 1/3 Paleo-Balkan. 3/4 : 1/4 if lucky.
No, you are incorrect. I didn't mention Russians, I said we are very northern for our geographic location and that my region was quite depopulated.
And Russians are not pure Slavic on average.
Balkans Slavs have more diversity than east and west Slavs lol.
An average ethnic/Slavic Russian would be something like this Russian-American woman I once posted. She is 37.5% Southwestern Russian (Kursk), 25% Northern Russian (Kostroma), 25% some other Russian (perhaps Southern, not sure) and 12.5% German from Poland. German ancestry in Russia is not as rare as one would think, there were 2 million Germans in the Soviet Union. Her German seems to have been heavily Eastern Euro, not Dutch-like.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?247008-Russian-American-AncestryDNA-Results
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 48.59
2 North_Atlantic 24.96
3 West_Med 11.42
4 West_Asian 5.38
5 Siberian 3.39
6 East_Med 2.82
7 East_Asian 1.62
8 Oceanian 0.93
9 Amerindian 0.47
10 Red_Sea 0.43
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Estonian_Polish 4.98
2 Southwest_Russian 5.07
3 Russian_Smolensk 5.18
4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.91
5 Kargopol_Russian 5.95
6 Ukrainian 6.24
7 Belorussian 6.42
8 Polish 6.83
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.46
10 Erzya 7.75
11 Lithuanian 7.93
12 South_Polish 8.79
13 Estonian 9.13
14 East_Finnish 10.57
15 Finnish 11.25
16 Croatian 13.6
17 Southwest_Finnish 13.85
18 Moldavian 15.9
19 Hungarian 17.9
20 East_German 19
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.4% Ukrainian + 42.6% Erzya @ 3.64
2 54.3% Polish + 45.7% Erzya @ 3.8
3 52% Kargopol_Russian + 48% Ukrainian @ 3.94
4 69.7% Estonian_Polish + 30.3% Erzya @ 4.07
5 95.4% Estonian_Polish + 4.6% Hakas @ 4.11
6 96.2% Estonian_Polish + 3.8% Mongolian @ 4.11
7 95.1% Estonian_Polish + 4.9% Kazakh @ 4.12
8 96.5% Estonian_Polish + 3.5% Buryat @ 4.12
9 67.7% Russian_Smolensk + 32.3% Erzya @ 4.12
10 57.9% Russian_Smolensk + 42.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.14
11 95.9% Estonian_Polish + 4.1% Altaian @ 4.14
12 95.5% Estonian_Polish + 4.5% Kirgiz @ 4.15
13 96.4% Estonian_Polish + 3.6% Tuvinian @ 4.15
14 60.9% Estonian_Polish + 39.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.16
15 96.8% Estonian_Polish + 3.2% Hezhen @ 4.18
16 96.8% Estonian_Polish + 3.2% Xibo @ 4.18
17 96.6% Russian_Smolensk + 3.4% Oroqen @ 4.18
18 97% Estonian_Polish + 3% Oroqen @ 4.19
19 89% Estonian_Polish + 11% Chuvash @ 4.19
20 88% Estonian_Polish + 12% Tatar @ 4.2
Her MyHeritage results (upload)
https://lostrussianfamily.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/myheritageee.jpg
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.1
2 Eastern_Euro 23.3
3 North_Sea 23.01
4 Atlantic 11.06
5 West_Med 8.11
6 Siberian 2.18
7 West_Asian 2
8 Southeast_Asian 1.23
9 Oceanian 0.77
10 Amerindian 0.26
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 6.08
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.67
3 Southwest_Russian 8
4 Polish 8.15
5 South_Polish 8.25
6 Kargopol_Russian 8.4
7 Estonian 8.52
8 Estonian_Polish 8.65
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod 8.65
10 Belorussian 9.18
11 Russian_Smolensk 9.45
12 Erzya 9.66
13 East_Finnish 10.37
14 Lithuanian 10.53
15 Finnish 11.89
16 Croatian 13.12
17 Moldavian 13.7
18 Southwest_Finnish 14.08
19 Hungarian 14.67
20 East_German 16.37
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.6% Ukrainian + 32.4% Erzya @ 4.48
2 65.5% Ukrainian + 34.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.9
3 88.4% Ukrainian + 11.6% Chuvash @ 5.03
4 90.9% Ukrainian + 9.1% Mari @ 5.1
5 59% Ukrainian_Lviv + 41% Erzya @ 5.18
6 76% Ukrainian + 24% East_Finnish @ 5.4
7 54.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 45.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 5.5
8 96.9% Ukrainian + 3.1% Selkup @ 5.69
9 75.5% Ukrainian + 24.5% Estonian @ 5.72
10 97.1% Ukrainian + 2.9% Ket @ 5.76
11 96.5% Ukrainian + 3.5% Shors @ 5.78
12 56.8% South_Polish + 43.2% Erzya @ 5.79
13 97.1% Ukrainian + 2.9% Hakas @ 5.84
14 85.8% Ukrainian + 14.2% Lithuanian @ 5.9
15 98% Ukrainian + 2% Tuvinian @ 5.9
16 93.3% Ukrainian + 6.7% Tatar @ 5.92
17 98.1% Ukrainian + 1.9% Saqqaq @ 5.92
18 82.6% Ukrainian + 17.4% Estonian_Polish @ 5.93
19 98% Ukrainian + 2% Altaian @ 5.94
20 80.7% Ukrainian + 19.3% Southwest_Russian @ 5.94
EUtest Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 SOUTH_BALTIC 29.79
2 EAST_EURO 25.06
3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 20.23
4 ATLANTIC 12.48
5 WEST_MED 5.76
6 EAST_MED 2.43
7 WEST_ASIAN 1.59
8 SIBERIAN 1.57
9 EAST_ASIAN 1.09
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Belorussian 4.04
2 Ukrainian-Russian 4.8
3 West_Russian 4.91
4 UA 5.49
5 PL 5.63
6 EE 5.89
7 Northwest_Russian 6.04
8 LIT 8.71
9 East_Russian 9.23
10 North_Russian 9.72
11 South_Finnish 9.98
12 East_Finnish 9.99
13 Erzya 12.14
14 HU 15.93
15 North_Swedish 16.33
16 AT 18.94
17 South_&_Central_Swedish 19.66
18 Komi 20.88
19 NO 20.91
20 Serbian 20.94
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.9% Belorussian + 24.1% East_Finnish @ 2.65
2 76.4% Belorussian + 23.6% South_Finnish @ 2.75
3 76.7% Belorussian + 23.3% East_Russian @ 3.05
4 57.9% Ukrainian-Russian + 42.1% EE @ 3.14
5 89.4% Belorussian + 10.6% Komi @ 3.22
6 86.8% Belorussian + 13.2% North_Swedish @ 3.23
7 68.1% UA + 31.9% East_Finnish @ 3.25
8 79.9% Belorussian + 20.1% North_Russian @ 3.32
9 96.1% Belorussian + 3.9% KZ @ 3.37
10 97% Belorussian + 3% Selkup @ 3.38
11 76.2% Northwest_Russian + 23.8% North_Swedish @ 3.42
12 97.8% Belorussian + 2.2% Chukchi @ 3.44
13 97.9% Belorussian + 2.1% Koryak @ 3.46
14 90.8% Belorussian + 9.2% Udmurt @ 3.46
15 90.8% Belorussian + 9.2% NO @ 3.47
16 65.5% Northwest_Russian + 34.5% South_Finnish @ 3.5
17 91.8% Belorussian + 8.2% DK @ 3.5
18 74% Ukrainian-Russian + 26% South_Finnish @ 3.5
19 90.7% Belorussian + 9.3% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.52
20 85.5% Belorussian + 14.5% Erzya @ 3.54
MDLP K23b Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 50.93
2 Caucasian 25.03
3 European_Early_Farmers 12.72
4 Ancestral_Altaic 3.1
5 East_Siberian 2.76
6 South_Central_Asian 1.32
7 Austronesian 0.92
8 Amerindian 0.85
9 Australoid 0.74
10 Tungus-Altaic 0.55
11 Paleo_Siberian 0.49
12 Near_East 0.33
13 North_African 0.14
14 Melano_Polynesian 0.08
15 East_African 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 German ( ) 4.86
2 Kashub ( ) 4.87
3 Sorb ( ) 5.31
4 Russian-North-West ( ) 5.4
5 Slovak ( ) 6.24
6 Russian_North ( ) 6.55
7 Russian-West ( ) 6.56
8 Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) 6.57
9 Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) 6.74
10 Czech ( ) 7.48
11 Ukrainian_West ( ) 7.96
12 Moksha ( ) 7.96
13 Belarusian_West ( ) 8.27
14 Belarusian-East ( ) 8.3
15 Balt ( ) 8.32
16 Erzya ( ) 8.44
17 Hungarian ( ) 8.59
18 Russian_South ( ) 8.64
19 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 8.94
20 German_East ( ) 9.04
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.2% Russian-West ( ) + 7.8% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 2.18
2 64.1% Hungarian ( ) + 35.9% Vepsa ( ) @ 2.18
3 93.1% Kashub ( ) + 6.9% Selkup ( ) @ 2.19
4 63.8% Slovenian ( ) + 36.2% Karelian ( ) @ 2.21
5 65.3% Hungarian ( ) + 34.7% Karelian ( ) @ 2.21
6 92.4% Russian-West ( ) + 7.6% Basque_French ( ) @ 2.22
7 73.2% Kashub ( ) + 26.8% Finnish-East ( ) @ 2.23
8 91% Russian-West ( ) + 9% Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( ) @ 2.25
9 62.6% Slovenian ( ) + 37.4% Vepsa ( ) @ 2.29
10 67.1% Slovak ( ) + 32.9% Finnish-East ( ) @ 2.31
11 94% Kashub ( ) + 6% Ket ( ) @ 2.33
12 89% Russian-West ( ) + 11% French_South ( ) @ 2.33
13 89.8% Kashub ( ) + 10.2% Saami ( ) @ 2.36
14 74.1% Kashub ( ) + 25.9% Finn_East ( ) @ 2.37
15 87.9% Russian-West ( ) + 12.1% Spanish_Cantabria_IBS ( ) @ 2.39
16 50.5% Austrian ( ) + 49.5% Russian-North ( ) @ 2.41
17 88% Russian-West ( ) + 12% Spanish_Aragon_IBS ( ) @ 2.41
18 67.9% Slovak ( ) + 32.1% Finn_East ( ) @ 2.44
19 72.4% Kashub ( ) + 27.6% Finnish_FIN ( ) @ 2.44
20 54.8% Hungarian ( ) + 45.2% Russian-North ( ) @ 2.44
Dodecad K12b Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 58.5
2 Atlantic_Med 21.64
3 Caucasus 9.17
4 Gedrosia 4.21
5 Siberian 3.41
6 Southwest_Asian 1.58
7 East_Asian 0.97
8 Southeast_Asian 0.51
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Polish (Dodecad) 7.25
2 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 8.88
3 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 10.04
4 Russian (Dodecad) 10.65
5 Mordovians (Yunusbayev) 11.86
6 Belorussian (Behar) 11.89
7 Russian (HGDP) 11.93
8 Russian_B (Behar) 12.43
9 Hungarians (Behar) 12.67
10 Swedish (Dodecad) 13.55
11 German (Dodecad) 14.98
12 Lithuanian (Dodecad) 16.64
13 Norwegian (Dodecad) 16.72
14 FIN30 (1000Genomes) 17.75
15 Finnish (Dodecad) 19.45
16 Lithuanians (Behar) 19.46
17 Dutch (Dodecad) 21.51
18 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 21.82
19 Chuvashs (Behar) 23.5
20 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 24.04
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.7% Russian (HGDP) + 44.3% German (Dodecad) @ 1.43
2 67.5% Russian (Dodecad) + 32.5% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2
3 67.2% Russian (Dodecad) + 32.8% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.09
4 70.2% Russian (Dodecad) + 29.8% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 2.09
5 73.6% Russian (Dodecad) + 26.4% French (Dodecad) @ 2.12
6 84% Russian (Dodecad) + 16% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 2.13
7 58.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 41.5% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.13
8 72.2% Russian (Dodecad) + 27.8% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.14
9 85.6% Russian (Dodecad) + 14.4% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 2.16
10 64.9% Russian (HGDP) + 35.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.16
11 67.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 32.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 2.17
12 69.9% Russian (Dodecad) + 30.1% English (Dodecad) @ 2.19
13 69.7% Russian (Dodecad) + 30.3% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.2
14 74% Russian (Dodecad) + 26% French (HGDP) @ 2.22
15 64.6% Russian (HGDP) + 35.4% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.24
16 71.8% Russian (Dodecad) + 28.2% British (Dodecad) @ 2.24
17 60.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 39.2% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 2.46
18 70.1% Russian (Dodecad) + 29.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 2.48
19 67.1% Russian_B (Behar) + 32.9% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2.49
20 64.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 35.2% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.5
Her GEDmatch is overall very average, I would say as someone who has seen like 200+ Russian and Slavic results.
War Chef
11-22-2019, 11:50 AM
No, you are incorrect. I didn't mention Russians, I said we are very northern for our geographic location and that my region was quite depopulated.
And Russians are not pure Slavic on average.
Balkans Slavs have more diversity than east and west Slavs lol.
Your original argument was that Russians absorbed a Finnic element, I responded by saying there was very very few people to absorb, as evidenced by most Russians clustering with the source Slavic population (Belorussians/Ukrainians). I wrote that even the south-Slavs after Justinian's plague and political upheaval brought by the Avars still had more people to absorb than Russian proto-east-Slavs when settling Russia.
You seem to just be an egocentric poster looking for a debate to stroke your ego. I am way more mature than you.
Your original argument was that Russians absorbed a Finnic element, I responded by saying there was very very few people to absorb, as evidenced by most Russians clustering with the source Slavic population (Belorussians/Ukrainians). I wrote that even the south-Slavs after Justinian's plague and political upheaval brought by the Avars still had more people to absorb than Russian proto-east-Slavs when settling Russia.
You seem to just be an egocentric poster looking for a debate to stroke your ego. I am way more mature than you.
Because your arguments are false. Native population of Russia was already northern European and closer to Slavs than native population of Balkans, which was different world genetically.
Russia is full of Baltic toponyms and hydronyms for example, where did these Baltic tribes dissapear?
Baltic people are closest to Slavs and they were always genetically similar, but Balts are not Slavs. It's like saying British Islanders are pure Germanic just because native Britons were already genetically NW Euro and pretty close to Anglo-Saxons.
Baltic cultures in purple
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ef/East_europe_3-4cc.png/1280px-East_europe_3-4cc.png
Map of the ancient Baltic homelands at the time of the Hunnish invasions (3rd-4th c. AD). Archaeology identifies Baltic cultural areas (in purple). The Baltic sphere originally covered Eastern Europe from the Baltic Sea to modern Moscow.
Baltic tribes in 13th century
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/Baltic_Tribes_c_1200.svg/1024px-Baltic_Tribes_c_1200.svg.png
NE Slavs absorbed Balts, not only north Russians but NE Poles and much of Belarusians too. Deal with it.
Finno-Ugric people seem to have a lot of IE ancestry, I guess they would have adopted Uralic at some point and stopped speaking IE. Of course there was some mixing too. Mordovians are about 10% Mongoloid, some even less than that. Obviously they weren't transplanted magically from Siberia, lol. Just like Estonians are only 2-5% Mongoloid or so, obviously mostly Finnicized local NE Europeans.
Finno-Ugric people seem to have a lot of IE ancestry, I guess they would have adopted Uralic at some point and stopped speaking IE. Of course there was some mixing too. Mordovians are about 10% Mongoloid, some even less than that. Obviously they weren't transplanted magically from Siberia, lol. Just like Estonians are only 2-5% Mongoloid or so, obviously mostly Finnicized local NE Europeans.
Actually, I think there was a recent paper that said proto-Baltic Finns were genetically like Estonians while Finland Finns are mix of these proto-Finn migrants from Estonia and local Saami.
Harkonenn claimed that at least. According to that Siberian admixture in Finns is from pre-Finnish Saami natives of Finland.
Which would mean proto-Baltic Finns were totally white people and NE Europeans. If what he says is true. I didn't read the paper.
Actually, I think there was a recent paper that said proto-Baltic Finns were genetically like Estonians while Finland Finns are mix of these proto-Finn migrants from Estonia and local Saami.
Harkonenn claimed that at least. According to that Siberian admixture in Finns is from pre-Finnish Saami natives of Finland.
Which would mean proto-Baltic Finns were totally white people and NE Europeans. If what he says is true. I didn't read the paper.
I read somewhere that perhaps the Sami may have been pushed to the North by incoming proto-Finns, so they didn't live in Lapland only.
Arhat
11-22-2019, 12:08 PM
Because your arguments are false. Native population of Russia was already northern European and closer to Slavs than native population of Balkans, which was different world genetically.
Russia is full of Baltic toponyms and hydronyms for example, where did these Baltic tribes dissapear?
Baltic people are closest to Slavs and they were always genetically similar, but Balts are not Slavs. It's like saying British Islanders are pure Germanic just because native Britons were already genetically NW Euro and pretty close to Anglo-Saxons.
Baltic cultures in purple
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ef/East_europe_3-4cc.png/1280px-East_europe_3-4cc.png
Map of the ancient Baltic homelands at the time of the Hunnish invasions (3rd-4th c. AD). Archaeology identifies Baltic cultural areas (in purple). The Baltic sphere originally covered Eastern Europe from the Baltic Sea to modern Moscow.
Baltic tribes in 13th century
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/Baltic_Tribes_c_1200.svg/1024px-Baltic_Tribes_c_1200.svg.png
NE Slavs absorbed Balts, not only north Russians but NE Poles and much of Belarusians too. Deal with it.
Yes there is a baltic substrate but Russian archaelogists generally exaggerate the importance of Balts. Baltic tribes like Gallindians arrived probably only slightly earlier than Slavs in the region and maybe were part of the same movement and rather represent Para-Slavic incursions into the northeast. The region was rather sparsely populated and had several population replacements in history. Fatyanovo tribes rich in R1b and R1a-Z82* were replaced by Sintashta-like groups rich in R1a-Z93 and this groups were replaced by early Uralics who were later replaced by Balto-Slavs. Modern dna of people in Moscow region is so Slavic-like that we can not even extract accurately the pre-Slavic substrate. Only a shift towards the Caucasus and Ural among modern people there may point to the pre-Slavic population but this could also come from some variation among early Slavs in Ukraine and Belarus.
War Chef
11-22-2019, 12:09 PM
Because your arguments are false. Native population of Russia was already northern European and closer to Slavs than native population of Balkans, which was different world genetically.
Russia is full of Baltic toponyms and hydronyms for example, where did these Baltic tribes dissapear?
Baltic people are closest to Slavs and they were always genetically similar, but Balts are not Slavs. It's like saying British Islanders are pure Germanic just because native Britons were already genetically NW Euro and pretty close to Anglo-Saxons.
Baltic cultures in purple
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ef/East_europe_3-4cc.png/1280px-East_europe_3-4cc.png
Map of the ancient Baltic homelands at the time of the Hunnish invasions (3rd-4th c. AD). Archaeology identifies Baltic cultural areas (in purple). The Baltic sphere originally covered Eastern Europe from the Baltic Sea to modern Moscow.
Baltic tribes in 13th century
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/Baltic_Tribes_c_1200.svg/1024px-Baltic_Tribes_c_1200.svg.png
NE Slavs absorbed Balts, not only north Russians but NE Poles and much of Belarusians too. Deal with it.
Grasping at straws. Balts shouldn't really be distinguished from Slavs because Balto-Slavs were one people in 1,000 B.C.
Grasping at straws. Balts shouldn't really be distinguished from Slavs because Balto-Slavs were one people in 1,000 B.C.
Balto-Slavs were R1a Z280 most likely. Than Slavs absorbed I2-din groups and Balts absorbed N1c groups.
R1a M458 also looks mainly Slavic and not Balto-Slavic.
They are as close as Germanics and Celts. First cousins, not not brothers.
War Chef
11-22-2019, 12:18 PM
They are as close as Germanics and Celts. First cousins, not not brothers.
Except there was never actually a Celto-Germanic language, ever. They had entirely different ethnogenesis.
After flooding and climate change in Denmark, Germanic refugees migrated en masse to Celtic lands.
Except there was never actually a Celto-Germanic language, ever. They had entirely different ethnogenesis.
After flooding and climate change in Denmark, Germanic refugees migrated en masse to Celtic lands.
Both of them descend from same Bell Beaker stock, and Balto-Slavs from Corded Ware.
Arhat
11-22-2019, 12:35 PM
Balto-Slavs were R1a Z280 most likely. Than Slavs absorbed I2-din groups and Balts absorbed N1c groups.
R1a M458 also looks mainly Slavic and not Balto-Slavic.
They are as close as Germanics and Celts. First cousins, not not brothers.
Germanics are not from Bell Beakers. There was no U106 found among them. Germanics had later contact with Celts and that is from where the similarities came from. Balts and Slavs belong to very similar R1a clades and most linguists dont see them as distinct linguistic groups 1000 B.C. Also Slavs and Balts share a lot of genetic drift which looks like it is much younger than CW
Germanics are not from Bell Beakers. There was no U106 found among them. Germanics had later contact with Celts and that is from where the similarities came from. Balts and Slavs belong to very similar R1a clades and most linguists dont see them as distinct linguistic groups 1000 B.C. Also Slavs and Balts share a lot of genetic drift which looks like it is much younger than CW
Germanics have more Beaker than CW genetics, but they seem to have absorbed both. Their R1a Z284 (and that other R1a common in low countries) is from CW, but it's rare outside Norway.
Dutch Bell Beakers were very NW Euro genetically. I agree with you about Balto-Slavs and it's pretty known fact.
But still there is some difference when it comes to R1a. M458 is rather Slavic, and inside Balto-Slavic Z280 Z92 is more of Baltic clade, while CTS1211 is more Slavic.
Arhat
11-22-2019, 12:59 PM
Germanics have more Beaker than CW genetics, but they seem to have absorbed both. Their R1a Z284 (and that other R1a common in low countries) is from CW, but it's rare outside Norway.
Dutch Bell Beakers were very NW Euro genetically. I agree with you about Balto-Slavs and it's pretty known fact.
But still there is some difference when it comes to R1a. M458 is rather Slavic, and inside Balto-Slavic Z280 Z92 is more of Baltic clade, while CTS1211 is more Slavic.
You are not up-to-date. R1b was found in CWC in Germany and Russia. Bell Beakers are also a CWC group. But Germanics look like they a more northern route than Bell Beakers and arrived either later or hide in the Battle Axe culture
You are not up-to-date. R1b was found in CWC in Germany and Russia. Bell Beakers are also a CWC group. But Germanics look like they a more northern route than Bell Beakers and arrived either later or hide in the Battle Axe culture
Okay, and still Irish are pretty close to Norwegians just like Latvians are to Russians. Germanics fall in NW cluster.
You could say Irish are not really Celtic which is probably true, but still natives of British Isles were not Germanic. And they were close to them.
That is why I think comparison with Balto-Slavs is decent, even if not perfect.
Arhat
11-22-2019, 01:06 PM
Okay, and still Irish are pretty close to Norwegians just like Latvians are to Russians. Germanics fall in NW cluster.
You could say Irish are not really Celtic which is probably true, but still natives of British Isles were not Germanic. And they were close to them.
That is why I think comparison with Balto-Slavs is decent, even if not perfect.
well the NW Cluster is much older and less tight than the Balto-Slavic cluster. They are not comparable here.
vbnetkhio
11-22-2019, 03:57 PM
Here are two more Bulgarian results
https://i.imgur.com/3ssjg53.png
PAGANE
11-22-2019, 04:22 PM
[QUOTE = vbnetkhio; 6352040]
https://i.imgur.com/3ssjg53.png[/ ЦИТЕ ]
Thank you! I see how my mother and they are in a straight line. In fact, both samples share a common great-grandfather with my mother.
vbnetkhio
11-22-2019, 04:23 PM
You are not up-to-date. R1b was found in CWC in Germany and Russia. Bell Beakers are also a CWC group. But Germanics look like they a more northern route than Bell Beakers and arrived either later or hide in the Battle Axe culture
how can BB be a CWC group? BB has significant West Asian/CHG admixture and pure CWCs had 0% of it.
how can BB be a CWC group? BB has significant West Asian/CHG admixture and pure CWCs had 0% of it.
They descend from Corded Ware.
vbnetkhio
11-22-2019, 04:30 PM
They descend from Corded Ware.
but where did they pick up the CHG then?
but where did they pick up the CHG then?
Yamnaya? It's obvious Bell Beakers were different from ancestors of Balto-Slavs who developed specific genetic drift.
CW is also suposedly descending from Yamnaya but has no CHG like them. I don't understand this stuff to be honest.
These 3 groups were gentically different but seems they descend from each other. Maybe somebody can explain it to us.
J. Ketch
11-22-2019, 04:42 PM
well the NW Cluster is much older and less tight than the Balto-Slavic cluster. They are not comparable here.
It's certainly older but I don't think it's any less tight. Core NW Europe has had very little mixing with outsiders. Belarussians for example are further from Latvians than Bretons are from Swedes, in spite of Finnic admixture in the latter.
vbnetkhio
11-22-2019, 04:45 PM
Yamnaya? It's obvious Bell Beakers were different from Balto-Slavs who developed specific genetic drift.
CW is also suposedly descending from Yamnaya but has no CHG like them. I don't understand this stuff to be honest.
These 3 groups were gentically different but seems they descend from each other. Maybe somebody can explain it to us.
Yamnaya and BB (and Afanasievo) had closely related subclades of r1b, and both had CHG admixture.
CWC had r1a-m417, Baltic and Polish CWC had 0 CHG, and German had a little, which is from mixing with their BB neighbours imo.
this is based on gedmatch calculators, maybe it's different in g25, i didn't check yet
Omanvassal
11-22-2019, 04:45 PM
Craotians=Battle Axe Culture
LOL
Yamnaya and BB (and Afanasievo) had closely related subclades of r1b, and both had CHG admixture.
CWC had r1a-m417, Baltic and Polish CWC had 0 CHG, and German had a little, which is from mixing with their BB neighbours imo.
this is based on gedmatch calculators, maybe it's different in g25, i didn't check yet
What about R1b found in Corded Ware remains Arhat mentioned, was it U106?
J. Ketch
11-22-2019, 04:52 PM
how can BB be a CWC group? BB has significant West Asian/CHG admixture and pure CWCs had 0% of it.
Early Corded Ware were almost identical to Yamnaya. I don't know how they could possibly then have no West Asian/CHG.
Did Corded Ware absorb Baltic HGs, and that is why they were so much northern European in later stages?
Omanvassal
11-22-2019, 04:55 PM
What about R1b found in Corded Ware remains Arhat mentioned, was it U106?
Vikings: 92951
vbnetkhio
11-22-2019, 04:56 PM
Early Corded Ware were almost identical to Yamnaya.
in g25? i checked the Baltic and Polish CWC a long time ago on gedmatch, they had 0% CHG or west asian in any calculator. maybe there are new samples now, and maybe g25 is more precise. i'll make some models now
JamesBond007
11-22-2019, 04:56 PM
Looks like am I am Scottish with a pull towards Germany so maybe super lowland Scottish ?
https://i.postimg.cc/MGsP3c8v/tsyXkB3.png
From my K36 Lukasz report :
Gaussian method. Noise dispersion set to 0,130062
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Scotland @ 4.1349
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 West_Prussia+Scotland+Scotland+Scotland @ 4.037002
I heard my grandmother's heritage was Prussian from Alsace-Lorraine thanks to the dispute between Germany and France over the area the Germans brought in their elite Prussian troops. It is not that weird for me to be mixed with German since Queen Elizabeth, of England, is part German thanks to the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha royal house arrangement(s).
I'd also like explanation why Yamnaya/Corded Ware/Bell Beakers have different haplogroups.
vbnetkhio
11-22-2019, 05:00 PM
Did Corded Ware absorb Baltic HGs, and that is why they were so much northern European in later stages?
yes, they absorbed Narva people who were WHGs
Daos777
11-22-2019, 05:00 PM
Did Corded Ware absorb Baltic HGs, and that is why they were so much northern European in later stages?
Yes that’s why I score higher EHG and Baltic HG and less steppe
Omanvassal
11-22-2019, 05:00 PM
Looks like am I am Scottish with a pull towards Germany so maybe super lowland Scottish ?
https://i.postimg.cc/MGsP3c8v/tsyXkB3.png
From my K36 Lukasz report :
Gaussian method. Noise dispersion set to 0,130062
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Scotland @ 4.1349
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 West_Prussia+Scotland+Scotland+Scotland @ 4.037002
I heard my grandmother's heritage was Prussian from Alsace-Lorraine thanks to the dispute between Germany and France over the area the Germans brought in their elite Prussian troops. It is not that weird for me to be mixed with German since Queen Elizabeth, of England, is part German thanks to the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha royal house arrangement(s).
You seem right person for this question
Why Prince Charles (United Kingdom) visit Dracula Castle in Romania twice a year? Do you know
J. Ketch
11-22-2019, 05:01 PM
Did Corded Ware absorb Baltic HGs, and that is why they were so much northern European in later stages?
Yes, look at the difference between CWC Baltic early and CWC Baltic.
Target: Bell_Beaker_NLD
Distance: 3.0837% / 0.03083703
56.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
27.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
11.4 Baltic_LVA_HG
5.4 WHG
Target: Corded_Ware_POL
Distance: 2.4101% / 0.02410071
51.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
24.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
23.8 Baltic_LVA_HG
0.2 Dinka
Target: Corded_Ware_DEU
Distance: 3.1860% / 0.03185997
73.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
17.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
9.8 Baltic_LVA_HG
Target: Corded_Ware_CZE
Distance: 1.8933% / 0.01893278
64.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
23.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
12.0 Baltic_LVA_HG
0.6 WHG
Target: Corded_Ware_Baltic_early
Distance: 2.5767% / 0.02576739
88.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
7.2 Baltic_LVA_HG
4.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
0.4 Han
Target: Corded_Ware_Baltic
Distance: 2.8994% / 0.02899356
53.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
23.8 Baltic_LVA_HG
21.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
0.8 Jarawa
You seem right person for this question
Why Prince Charles (United Kingdom) visit Dracula Castle in Romania twice a year? Do you know
I can answer you: Prince Charles is part Hungarian from Transylvania. He is even part Croatian. And he owns a hunting house in Székely Land.
JamesBond007
11-22-2019, 05:05 PM
You seem right person for this question
Why Prince Charles (United Kingdom) visit Dracula Castle in Romania twice a year? Do you know
Because the elite bloodlines of both France and Britain have some Anatolian vampire genes and even I do as it is shown in my 4,500 year old k36 European map :
Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 4.3183% / 0.04318322
Aggregated
49.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
36.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
14.2 WHG
0.2 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1RHhhCqpqs
Omanvassal
11-22-2019, 05:05 PM
I can answer you: Prince Charles is part Hungarian from Transylvania. He is even part Croatian. And he owns a hunting house in Székely Land.
I don't think so that's not what it says online
I don't think so that's not what it says online
He is mixed with Hungarian nobility which is usual for European aristocrats, and Hungarian nobles they mixed with were also mixed with Croatian nobles.
Omanvassal
11-22-2019, 05:06 PM
Because the elite bloodlines of both France and Britain have some Anatolian vampire genes and even I do as it is shown in my 4,500 year old k36 European map :
Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 4.3183% / 0.04318322
Aggregated
49.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
36.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
14.2 WHG
0.2 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1RHhhCqpqs
I don't doubt, but nothing like me. I got those canine teeth
Coastal Elite
11-22-2019, 05:08 PM
Because the elite bloodlines of both France and Britain have some Anatolian vampire genes and even I do as it is shown in my 4,500 year old k36 European map :
Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 4.3183% / 0.04318322
Aggregated
49.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
36.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
14.2 WHG
0.2 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1RHhhCqpqs
https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2011/10/prince-charles-says-hes-related-to-dracula
''Prince Charles has actually been to Transylvania a number of times, has visited some of the graves of his Hungarian ancestors, has bought property there and has become friends with Count Kálnoky Tibor.
http://www.magyarnews.org/news.php?viewStory=2088
Daos777
11-22-2019, 05:10 PM
Yes, look at the difference between CWC Baltic early and CWC Baltic.
Target: Bell_Beaker_NLD
Distance: 3.0837% / 0.03083703
56.0Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
27.2Anatolia_Barcin_N
11.4Baltic_LVA_HG
5.4WHG
Target: Corded_Ware_POL
Distance: 2.4101% / 0.02410071
51.8Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
24.2Anatolia_Barcin_N
23.8Baltic_LVA_HG
0.2Dinka
Target: Corded_Ware_DEU
Distance: 3.1860% / 0.03185997
73.0Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
17.2Anatolia_Barcin_N
9.8Baltic_LVA_HG
Target: Corded_Ware_CZE
Distance: 1.8933% / 0.01893278
64.0Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
23.4Anatolia_Barcin_N
12.0Baltic_LVA_HG
0.6WHG
Target: Corded_Ware_Baltic_early
Distance: 2.5767% / 0.02576739
88.0Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
7.2Baltic_LVA_HG
4.4Anatolia_Barcin_N
0.4Han
Target: Corded_Ware_Baltic
Distance: 2.8994% / 0.02899356
53.6Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
23.8Baltic_LVA_HG
21.8Anatolia_Barcin_N
0.8Jarawa
Where can I get data set for this test? Or do I have to look up each coordinate one by one?
Omanvassal
11-22-2019, 05:11 PM
''Prince Charles has actually been to Transylvania a number of times, has visited some of the graves of his Hungarian ancestors, has bought property there and has become friends with Count Kálnoky Tibor.
http://www.magyarnews.org/news.php?viewStory=2088
Transylvania is Romania
vbnetkhio
11-22-2019, 05:12 PM
I'd also like explanation why Yamnaya/Corded Ware/Bell Beakers have different haplogroups.
possibly because we haven't tested enough samples yet
PS, more trivial info about British Queen
Descendants of heroes: The queen is a direct descendant of Nikola Subic Zrinski (1508-1566), Croatian count and defender of Siget from the Turks.
Queen Elizabeth and Nikola Subic Zrinski are joined by a series of 13 generations of mostly Hungarian noble families. It all begins with the marriage of Anna, daughter of Ban Nikola Subic Zrinski and his wife Katarina Frankopan, to Hungarian nobleman Ferenc Thurz.
https://www.vecernji.hr/lifestyle/kraljica-elizabeta-potomak-je-nikole-subica-zrinskog-588701
J. Ketch
11-22-2019, 05:15 PM
Where can I get data set for this test? Or do I have to look up each coordinate one by one?
Armenia_EBA,0.107753,0.128634,-0.065242,-0.045113,-0.048932,-0.00344,0.009479,-0.005154,-0.056244,-0.016948,0.003139,0.009142,-0.014222,0.003165,0.005338,-0.000442,0.012256,-0.000971,-0.002598,0.000292,0.007528,-0.004122,0.004642,-0.00237,-0.001597
Clovis:Anzick,0.048944,-0.294504,0.114645,0.0969,-0.097864,-0.012271,-0.259922,-0.314756,-0.011862,-0.024055,0.006496,-0.002398,-0.000743,0.010597,-0.012079,0.006232,0.008345,0.00038,-0.003268,0.005753,-0.001747,0.003586,-0.006532,-0.000723,0.003712
Dinka,-0.577462,0.051115,0.000754,-0.007591,-0.005899,-0.001255,-0.016647,0.019691,0.080787,-0.097466,-0.019865,0.022055,-0.039569,-0.001216,0.009478,-0.021391,0.017059,-0.011212,0.022081,-0.022386,0.001996,0.003978,0.000924,0.001366,0.009 799
Ethiopia_4500BP,-0.511066,0.043668,0.000754,0.000969,-0.00277,-0.011435,0.050997,-0.045229,0.089172,-0.087838,-0.012991,-0.002997,-0.031219,0.000688,0.02158,-0.029965,0.027772,0.039273,0.00176,-0.009004,0.000374,0.006183,-0.003451,-0.00241,-0.000838
Ganj_Dareh_N,0.044012,0.06804,-0.15374,0.002369,-0.121869,0.019057,0.017391,-0.003307,-0.083037,-0.0554,-0.000325,-0.004796,0.006145,-0.009496,0.029587,0.058826,-0.008084,0.009882,0.011103,-0.036226,0.0094,-0.02708,-0.011626,-0.037917,0.025746
Han,0.0209434519408812,-0.450691955965491,-0.00871148748492472,-0.0652140125379508,0.0789686239439437,0.0382637984 94138,0.00256161595482227,-0.00553823076442288,-0.0150734068047008,-0.00328024999047329,-0.0470601650528342,-0.00666906402728299,0.00726950761743875,-0.00761053379205427,-0.0042209013492381,0.00070272483946421,0.001329917 29066134,-0.00111485963242015,-0.00177234251768669,-0.0103674728068127,0.011829125614347,0.00704820615 476023,0.0146541536739588,-0.000771193360967274,-0.00246684462421126
Jarawa,-0.021867,-0.243353,-0.132588,0.098702,0.032557,-0.004829,-0.009982,0.006571,0.054791,0.024084,0.023033,0.002 769,-0.003826,0.010046,-0.010736,-0.011431,0.009937,-0.00204,-0.006106,0.028461,-0.004315,0.011344,-0.012805,0.001934,0.004651
Levant_N,0.00615,0.0168,-0.0071,-0.04625,0.01025,-0.02515,-0.00645,-0.00645,0.03675,0.02375,0.0052,-0.0088,0.02085,-0.0031,-0.01465,0.00595,0.00775,-0.00645,-0.00725,0.01445,-0.0042,0.0059,0.00125,-9e-04,-0.0037
Morocco_Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.081445,-0.024287,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.05522,-0.070597,0.018415,0.155397,0.003499,0.020916,-0.031832,0.074717,-0.051333,0.071199,-0.036303,0.005268,-0.066106,-0.142416,0.038994,-0.037684,-0.125532,0.073012,-0.013761,0.016454
Nganassan,0.049399,-0.406009,0.154242,0.001809,-0.158922,-0.085731,0.027966,0.043014,0.03031,0.012429,0.1034 09,0.009532,-0.003152,-0.027112,-0.022095,-0.013842,-0.000991,0.013733,0.02426,-0.001476,0.043548,-0.012736,0.034559,0.002362,0.013268
Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.180641,0.120157,-0.097557,0.065539,0.0047,0.009461,0.035996,0.02678 9,-0.002273,0.003747,-0.005649,0.007982,0.003529,0.003182,0.008736,0.001 647,0.000126,-0.002001,0.001373,-0.008161,0.000246,-0.001928,-0.008023
Tepecik_Ciftlik_N,0.0097,0.01705,-0.00375,-0.0302,0.00815,-0.01225,7e-04,-0.003,0.01125,0.0318,0.0094,0.0076,-0.00785,0.00045,-0.0276,0.00355,0.01325,-0.00045,0.009,4e-04,-8e-04,0.00415,-0.0067,-0.00395,-0.00655
WHG,0.124636303669918,0.116278118427329,0.18478912 84681,0.189278907118569,0.154644323974403,0.046435 2948197812,0.013160595731197,0.0372676778522623,0. 0890701311186865,0.0177680207817303,-0.0153457059954894,-0.0158109270759181,0.0159066935596308,-0.00302769879611562,0.0533380781431052,0.058206831 0424129,0.00501978585200604,0.0163428287025227,-0.00930165576658264,0.0555891636022705,0.094458313 186294,0.0111905729299263,-0.0496072065077243,-0.160866115139267,0.0170044629435922
Yoruba,-0.630062125250819,0.0625007580664627,0.02211284762 62357,0.0167079010725635,0.000503478833874871,0.01 24739425309571,-0.0444170105927898,0.0477672403431473,-0.0488811971007258,0.032769332932607,0.00462076258 308626,0.000790246620581196,0.0230559346809037,0.0 00950835044652857,0.012523319298979,-0.00960677891384516,0.00707633344275127,0.00044911 1067832891,0.00602206792055686,-0.00299005919587556,0.00155413248445877,0.00231564 485368763,-0.00175911467946521,-0.000471030445003293,-0.000424512824894608
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1259169,0.0887318,0.0428032,0 .1164425,-0.028236,0.045529,0.0036719,-0.002279,-0.0558095,-0.0715732,0.0009742,-0.0003934,-0.0019885,-0.025529,0.0362032,0.0160764,-0.0005869,-0.0012038,-0.0038966,0.0149446,-0.0022928,6.19e-05,0.0112925,0.0189332,-0.0039516
Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
Baltic_LVA_HG,0.1292603,0.1004104,0.1802636,0.1972 329,0.1064236,0.0560919,0.0083574,0.0207106,0.0524 476,-0.0261394,-0.0046788,-0.0181151,0.0281434,-0.0053759,0.0355759,0.0480141,0.003072,0.0040856,-0.0059236,0.042325,0.0613526,0.0130531,-0.0262979,-0.1110549,0.0095949
And check any populations against that. I added Baltic HG to this model Davidski gave out.
Coastal Elite
11-22-2019, 05:16 PM
''Prince Charles has actually been to Transylvania a number of times, has visited some of the graves of his Hungarian ancestors, has bought property there and has become friends with Count Kálnoky Tibor.
http://www.magyarnews.org/news.php?viewStory=2088
Lol..very objective source of information.
Lol..very objective source of information.
What is not clear to you? It's easily verifiable in genealogical records. Are you suprised Hungarian nobility mixed with German and English?
vbnetkhio
11-22-2019, 05:20 PM
yes.. as i thought.. CWC indeed has a lot of CHG in G25
TargetDistanceITA_Grotta_Continenza_MesoGEO_CHGAna tolia_Pinarbasi_HGRUS_Karelia_HG
Corded_Ware_Baltic:Kunila20.035181380.027.429.443. 2
Corded_Ware_Baltic:Plinkaigalis2410.031365590.023. 031.046.0
Corded_Ware_Baltic:Spiginas20.038677469.811.627.45 1.2
Corded_Ware_Baltic_early:Gyvakarai1_10bp0.04130365 0.028.015.856.2
Corded_Ware_Baltic_early:I46290.053401290.028.69.4 62.0
Corded_Ware_Baltic_early:Plinkaigalis2420.04497906 0.027.412.660.0
Corded_Ware_CZE:I66950.034744300.016.837.246.0
Corded_Ware_CZE:I66960.027283481.024.236.438.4
Corded_Ware_CZE:I72070.037062840.024.825.849.4
Corded_Ware_CZE:I72080.040902140.020.026.253.8
Corded_Ware_CZE:I72090.035950540.026.223.450.4
Corded_Ware_CZE:I72790.038575440.019.827.652.6
Corded_Ware_CZE:I72800.033738580.023.628.248.2
Corded_Ware_CZE_o:I72720.0313728811.02.486.60.0
Corded_Ware_DEU:I00490.043278380.027.620.651.8
Corded_Ware_DEU:I01030.040787540.024.222.653.2
Corded_Ware_DEU:I01040.050813870.025.424.849.8
Corded_Ware_DEU:I01060.048452420.018.627.653.8
Corded_Ware_DEU:I15320.040689290.226.624.848.4
Corded_Ware_DEU:I15340.052375540.026.421.052.6
Corded_Ware_DEU:I15360.067813380.028.816.654.6
Corded_Ware_DEU:I15380.052000440.026.013.660.4
Corded_Ware_DEU:I15390.046056550.023.426.650.0
Corded_Ware_DEU:I15440.044658530.035.418.646.0
Corded_Ware_DEU_o:I15400.0354498712.212.635.040.2
Corded_Ware_POL:N440.047109280.023.823.253.0
Corded_Ware_POL:N450.034222831.222.825.450.6
Corded_Ware_POL:N470.026365666.411.438.443.8
Corded_Ware_POL:N490.027709704.616.433.245.8
Corded_Ware_Proto-Unetice_POL:RISE4310.047473070.010.237.452.4
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:E095380.033234570.415.461.223. 0
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:E095690.029942811.416.442.639. 6
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:E09613_d0.033144363.218.837.44 0.6
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I35880.031387380.813.255.630.4
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I35890.028284360.817.642.039.6
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I35900.044745190.812.453.233.6
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I35940.033893332.47.069.621.0
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I36000.027806991.215.043.640.2
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I36010.038371420.018.239.042.8
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I50170.036339160.019.454.226.4
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I50200.0402930911.216.241.231. 4
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I50230.035757390.814.240.644.4
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I55190.035504120.016.633.450.0
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I55200.028252600.014.457.628.0
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I55210.032409813.217.239.640.0
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I55230.037011140.017.836.246.0
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I55240.038655640.816.057.625.6
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I55250.029809456.415.242.835.6
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I55290.035954270.012.852.634.6
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I55310.029361560.417.638.443.6
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I56580.049705590.018.639.242.2
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I56590.040712273.619.238.438.8
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I58330.033355453.813.445.637.2
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I58340.033975120.811.248.639.4
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I65900.036819894.215.046.834.0
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I65910.026505201.616.649.032.8
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I66240.039699805.413.849.631.2
Bell_Beaker_CHE:I57550.034301616.69.050.833.6
Bell_Beaker_CHE:I57590.039852090.015.457.227.4
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I48850.032870310.014.854.231.0
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I48860.026497091.017.849.431.8
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I48880.043808570.613.246.439.8
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I48890.040716100.019.244.836.0
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I48910.038965885.617.645.631.2
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I48950.041133643.223.238.235.4
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I48960.034910300.015.449.035.6
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I49450.028490340.012.055.232.8
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I49460.035100712.016.046.835.2
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I55140.037673161.417.434.247.0
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I56660.025281140.214.844.640.4
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I64800.044796370.014.639.446.0
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I72050.047066140.019.431.249.4
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I72110.029655575.415.245.633.8
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I72120.034595253.215.442.638.8
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I72130.026019193.414.048.634.0
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I72140.026556443.412.652.231.8
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I72490.032887221.616.041.241.2
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I72500.029978483.815.642.638.0
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I72510.040247450.016.440.842.8
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I72690.038482900.015.642.841.6
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I72750.036750520.019.047.233.8
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I72760.025769451.013.046.639.4
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I72780.037725570.013.648.438.0
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I72810.036908590.220.037.442.4
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I72820.030052016.811.848.233.2
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I72860.0264864210.015.839.634.6
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I72870.035308180.012.245.242.6
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I72900.028178464.412.846.836.0
Bell_Beaker_CZE_o:I50250.036111630.013.644.242.2
Bell_Beaker_England:I17670.046010752.015.243.439.4
Bell_Beaker_England:I24160.039312739.811.855.223.2
Bell_Beaker_England:I24170.043443640.020.626.652.8
Bell_Beaker_England:I24180.045618302.417.432.647.6
Bell_Beaker_England:I24430.041453090.820.432.246.6
Bell_Beaker_England:I24450.027555033.817.238.840.2
Bell_Beaker_England:I24470.040684073.821.033.641.6
Bell_Beaker_England:I24500.048817690.019.429.251.4
Bell_Beaker_England:I24520.034870673.617.635.643.2
Bell_Beaker_England:I24530.038996583.223.033.440.4
Bell_Beaker_England:I24540.047676260.223.030.246.6
Bell_Beaker_England:I24550.054124730.013.037.449.6
Bell_Beaker_England:I24590.044067193.018.429.848.8
Bell_Beaker_England:I32550.041239033.215.636.245.0
Bell_Beaker_England:I32560.039164391.015.839.244.0
Bell_Beaker_England:I49500.033404700.423.430.845.4
Bell_Beaker_England:I49510.055643790.023.029.647.4
Bell_Beaker_England:I53760.028533322.212.836.848.2
Bell_Beaker_England:I53790.033778500.819.640.239.4
Bell_Beaker_England:I53820.038662900.018.640.041.4
Bell_Beaker_England:I55120.044415651.616.636.645.2
Bell_Beaker_England:I55130.040992790.413.834.251.6
Bell_Beaker_England:I66790.036938402.418.831.247.6
Bell_Beaker_England:I67740.041719570.017.432.050.6
Bell_Beaker_England:I67750.033825450.815.640.243.4
Bell_Beaker_England:I67770.047509450.018.434.047.6
Bell_Beaker_England:I67780.034987060.017.636.645.8
Bell_Beaker_England_EBA:I17700.051897544.619.634.6 41.2
Bell_Beaker_FRA:I13810.047164010.014.436.249.4
Bell_Beaker_FRA:I13820.034998670.017.638.843.6
Bell_Beaker_FRA:I13900.029926402.015.239.643.2
Bell_Beaker_FRA_C:I38740.045898970.010.250.839.0
Bell_Beaker_FRA_C:I38750.033248304.213.445.636.8
Bell_Beaker_FRA_lowSteppe:I13880.034682299.01.873. 415.8
Bell_Beaker_FRA_lowSteppe:I13920.023089889.82.483. 44.4
Bell_Beaker_HUN:I70440.036334156.29.672.411.8
Bell_Beaker_HUN:I70450.017941724.88.875.211.2
Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA:I23640.029834620.68.272.618.6
Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA:I23650.031142340.413.843.442.4
Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA:I27860.042533670.024.427.048.6
Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA:I27870.040642030.026.625.448.0
Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA:I35280.0280396315.410.649.025. 0
Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA:I35290.033869450.010.248.641.2
Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA:I41780.038181040.018.039.442.6
Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA:I50150.027745172.019.857.620.6
Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA_o:I27410.0426033812.03.484.60. 0
Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I04590.0325158120.00.078.21.8
Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I04600.0444899422.40.077.60.0
Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I04610.0347925811.85.464.218.6
Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I08260.0445124714.43.482.20.0
Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I08400.0366838816.80.882.00.4
Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I19700.0418571519.60.080.40.0
Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I42290.0383355814.45.676.04.0
Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I42470.0342311216.80.083.20.0
Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I56650.0376950612.45.463.818.4
Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I64720.040154829.010.462.618.0
Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I65390.026414767.24.867.820.2
Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I65840.0363043015.00.082.42.6
Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I65870.0442159216.62.281.20.0
Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I65880.046490897.612.259.021.2
Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I66230.043676917.410.852.629.2
Bell_Beaker_Iberia_C:I65420.0255971921.80.078.20.0
Bell_Beaker_ITA:I19790.027958932.212.671.014.2
Bell_Beaker_ITA:I24780.049724163.89.460.226.6
Bell_Beaker_ITA_o:I24770.045874657.40.089.03.6
Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale:I01080.046480398.413.845.832.0
Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale:I01110.033321643.021.243.832.0
Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale:I01120.035488364.213.038.644.2
Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale:I01130.040866594.413.648.833.2
Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale:I08050.036051374.617.639.238.6
Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale:I08060.048439154.423.430.242.0
Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale:I15460.033952461.414.845.638.2
Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale:I15490.042010480.015.636.048.4
Bell_Beaker_NLD:I40680.047307730.020.032.447.6
Bell_Beaker_NLD:I40690.034494102.816.436.444.4
Bell_Beaker_NLD:I40730.040542880.216.834.049.0
Bell_Beaker_NLD:I40740.038676430.623.030.845.6
Bell_Beaker_NLD:I40750.039084861.624.032.641.8
Bell_Beaker_NLD:I40760.041727020.019.434.246.4
Bell_Beaker_NLD:I57480.039750870.017.231.651.2
Bell_Beaker_NLD:I57500.033683883.019.236.241.6
Bell_Beaker_POL:I42530.036012562.623.239.634.6
Bell_Beaker_POL:I65800.038165661.020.632.046.4
Bell_Beaker_POL:I65820.027120341.212.656.030.2
Bell_Beaker_POL:I65830.040378621.619.836.042.6
Bell_Beaker_Rhine-Main:I58360.030277990.023.234.242.6
Bell_Beaker_Scotland:I53670.042142072.017.637.443. 0
Bell_Beaker_Scotland:I53850.048032040.018.434.447. 2
Yamnaya_BGR:Bul40.035753240.032.036.231.8
Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash:Yamnaya_Karagash0.049465730.0 34.66.059.4
Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke:I117360.041667700.032.80.067.2
Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia:RISE2400.046381700.033.410.85 5.8
Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia:RISE5460.055604530.032.25.862 .0
Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia:RISE5470.044863250.029.27.863 .0
Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia:RISE5500.040134550.033.06.460 .6
Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia:RISE5520.042599410.036.83.060 .2
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I02310.036257930.033.06.660.4
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I03570.035450950.032.48.059.6
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I03700.044921260.037.84.058.2
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I04290.043335310.034.01.065.0
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I04380.040642140.039.40.060.6
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I04390.045192010.032.48.059.6
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I04430.044137100.038.81.060.2
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I04440.042322230.027.46.066.6
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I74890.046792160.041.41.257.4
Yamnaya_UKR:I21050.043046320.037.44.458.2
Yamnaya_UKR:MJ060.050620810.032.413.254.4
Yamnaya_UKR_Ozera_o:I19170.032931790.038.624.237.2
Average0.038247602.917.840.139.2
Daos777
11-22-2019, 05:22 PM
Armenia_EBA,0.107753,0.128634,-0.065242,-0.045113,-0.048932,-0.00344,0.009479,-0.005154,-0.056244,-0.016948,0.003139,0.009142,-0.014222,0.003165,0.005338,-0.000442,0.012256,-0.000971,-0.002598,0.000292,0.007528,-0.004122,0.004642,-0.00237,-0.001597
Clovis:Anzick,0.048944,-0.294504,0.114645,0.0969,-0.097864,-0.012271,-0.259922,-0.314756,-0.011862,-0.024055,0.006496,-0.002398,-0.000743,0.010597,-0.012079,0.006232,0.008345,0.00038,-0.003268,0.005753,-0.001747,0.003586,-0.006532,-0.000723,0.003712
Dinka,-0.577462,0.051115,0.000754,-0.007591,-0.005899,-0.001255,-0.016647,0.019691,0.080787,-0.097466,-0.019865,0.022055,-0.039569,-0.001216,0.009478,-0.021391,0.017059,-0.011212,0.022081,-0.022386,0.001996,0.003978,0.000924,0.001366,0.009 799
Ethiopia_4500BP,-0.511066,0.043668,0.000754,0.000969,-0.00277,-0.011435,0.050997,-0.045229,0.089172,-0.087838,-0.012991,-0.002997,-0.031219,0.000688,0.02158,-0.029965,0.027772,0.039273,0.00176,-0.009004,0.000374,0.006183,-0.003451,-0.00241,-0.000838
Ganj_Dareh_N,0.044012,0.06804,-0.15374,0.002369,-0.121869,0.019057,0.017391,-0.003307,-0.083037,-0.0554,-0.000325,-0.004796,0.006145,-0.009496,0.029587,0.058826,-0.008084,0.009882,0.011103,-0.036226,0.0094,-0.02708,-0.011626,-0.037917,0.025746
Han,0.0209434519408812,-0.450691955965491,-0.00871148748492472,-0.0652140125379508,0.0789686239439437,0.0382637984 94138,0.00256161595482227,-0.00553823076442288,-0.0150734068047008,-0.00328024999047329,-0.0470601650528342,-0.00666906402728299,0.00726950761743875,-0.00761053379205427,-0.0042209013492381,0.00070272483946421,0.001329917 29066134,-0.00111485963242015,-0.00177234251768669,-0.0103674728068127,0.011829125614347,0.00704820615 476023,0.0146541536739588,-0.000771193360967274,-0.00246684462421126
Jarawa,-0.021867,-0.243353,-0.132588,0.098702,0.032557,-0.004829,-0.009982,0.006571,0.054791,0.024084,0.023033,0.002 769,-0.003826,0.010046,-0.010736,-0.011431,0.009937,-0.00204,-0.006106,0.028461,-0.004315,0.011344,-0.012805,0.001934,0.004651
Levant_N,0.00615,0.0168,-0.0071,-0.04625,0.01025,-0.02515,-0.00645,-0.00645,0.03675,0.02375,0.0052,-0.0088,0.02085,-0.0031,-0.01465,0.00595,0.00775,-0.00645,-0.00725,0.01445,-0.0042,0.0059,0.00125,-9e-04,-0.0037
Morocco_Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.081445,-0.024287,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.05522,-0.070597,0.018415,0.155397,0.003499,0.020916,-0.031832,0.074717,-0.051333,0.071199,-0.036303,0.005268,-0.066106,-0.142416,0.038994,-0.037684,-0.125532,0.073012,-0.013761,0.016454
Nganassan,0.049399,-0.406009,0.154242,0.001809,-0.158922,-0.085731,0.027966,0.043014,0.03031,0.012429,0.1034 09,0.009532,-0.003152,-0.027112,-0.022095,-0.013842,-0.000991,0.013733,0.02426,-0.001476,0.043548,-0.012736,0.034559,0.002362,0.013268
Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.180641,0.120157,-0.097557,0.065539,0.0047,0.009461,0.035996,0.02678 9,-0.002273,0.003747,-0.005649,0.007982,0.003529,0.003182,0.008736,0.001 647,0.000126,-0.002001,0.001373,-0.008161,0.000246,-0.001928,-0.008023
Tepecik_Ciftlik_N,0.0097,0.01705,-0.00375,-0.0302,0.00815,-0.01225,7e-04,-0.003,0.01125,0.0318,0.0094,0.0076,-0.00785,0.00045,-0.0276,0.00355,0.01325,-0.00045,0.009,4e-04,-8e-04,0.00415,-0.0067,-0.00395,-0.00655
WHG,0.124636303669918,0.116278118427329,0.18478912 84681,0.189278907118569,0.154644323974403,0.046435 2948197812,0.013160595731197,0.0372676778522623,0. 0890701311186865,0.0177680207817303,-0.0153457059954894,-0.0158109270759181,0.0159066935596308,-0.00302769879611562,0.0533380781431052,0.058206831 0424129,0.00501978585200604,0.0163428287025227,-0.00930165576658264,0.0555891636022705,0.094458313 186294,0.0111905729299263,-0.0496072065077243,-0.160866115139267,0.0170044629435922
Yoruba,-0.630062125250819,0.0625007580664627,0.02211284762 62357,0.0167079010725635,0.000503478833874871,0.01 24739425309571,-0.0444170105927898,0.0477672403431473,-0.0488811971007258,0.032769332932607,0.00462076258 308626,0.000790246620581196,0.0230559346809037,0.0 00950835044652857,0.012523319298979,-0.00960677891384516,0.00707633344275127,0.00044911 1067832891,0.00602206792055686,-0.00299005919587556,0.00155413248445877,0.00231564 485368763,-0.00175911467946521,-0.000471030445003293,-0.000424512824894608
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1259169,0.0887318,0.0428032,0 .1164425,-0.028236,0.045529,0.0036719,-0.002279,-0.0558095,-0.0715732,0.0009742,-0.0003934,-0.0019885,-0.025529,0.0362032,0.0160764,-0.0005869,-0.0012038,-0.0038966,0.0149446,-0.0022928,6.19e-05,0.0112925,0.0189332,-0.0039516
Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
Baltic_LVA_HG,0.1292603,0.1004104,0.1802636,0.1972 329,0.1064236,0.0560919,0.0083574,0.0207106,0.0524 476,-0.0261394,-0.0046788,-0.0181151,0.0281434,-0.0053759,0.0355759,0.0480141,0.003072,0.0040856,-0.0059236,0.042325,0.0613526,0.0130531,-0.0262979,-0.1110549,0.0095949
And check any populations against that. I added Baltic HG to this model Davidski gave out.
Target: yo_scaled
Distance: 5.2996% / 0.05299587
44.0Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
37.0Anatolia_Barcin_N
17.0Baltic_LVA_HG
2.0Han
Better fit than davidski model with noise populations reduced
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Grace O'Malley
11-22-2019, 05:26 PM
Could someone plot me on the map? Thanks
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 0.88 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 8.44 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.83 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 5.10 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 6.79 Pct
Fennoscandian 7.62 Pct
French 8.32 Pct
Iberian 14.22 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 0.70 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 21.00 Pct
North_Caucasian 1.38 Pct
North_Sea 19.47 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.32 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.94 Pct
West_Med -
Omanvassal
11-22-2019, 05:31 PM
PS, more trivial info about British Queen
Descendants of heroes: The queen is a direct descendant of Nikola Subic Zrinski (1508-1566), Croatian count and defender of Siget from the Turks.
Queen Elizabeth and Nikola Subic Zrinski are joined by a series of 13 generations of mostly Hungarian noble families. It all begins with the marriage of Anna, daughter of Ban Nikola Subic Zrinski and his wife Katarina Frankopan, to Hungarian nobleman Ferenc Thurz.
https://www.vecernji.hr/lifestyle/kraljica-elizabeta-potomak-je-nikole-subica-zrinskog-588701
I can tell Zrinski was from the Polish-Hungarian noble families cause he stole my surname, or some weird shortened version of it. He was weak tho he got killed by 2 Janizarys being cocky in battle, one bullet and one arrow and they lost that battle cause of Croatian dumbass
J. Ketch
11-22-2019, 05:34 PM
Target: yo_scaled
Distance: 5.2996% / 0.05299587
44.0Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
37.0Anatolia_Barcin_N
17.0Baltic_LVA_HG
2.0Han
Better fit than davidski model with noise populations reduced
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There you can see how proto Celto-Germanics split from Balto-Slavs by leaving for Western Europe early (and with more Steppe), while proto Balto-Slavs stayed and absorbed more Baltic HG.
vbnetkhio
11-22-2019, 05:38 PM
Could someone plot me on the map? Thanks
i already plotted you before. here's an update.
https://i.imgur.com/unNvusQ.png
What kind of Croatian putted -Ski
LOL
Their original surname is Šubić, and they are one of 12 founding noble tribes of Croatian Kingdom.
They later moved north to castle of Zrin and became known as Zrinski. Hero of Sziget battle was known as Nikola Šubić-Zrinski.
Grace O'Malley
11-22-2019, 05:42 PM
i already plotted you before. here's an update.
https://i.imgur.com/unNvusQ.png
Thank you so much. I never remember what I'm plotted on. :)
Daos777
11-22-2019, 05:43 PM
What kind of Croatian putted -Ski
LOL
Dude she’s just jealous that she doesn’t score EHG like we do.
TheOldNorth
11-22-2019, 08:49 PM
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 2.95 Pct
Basque 4.35 Pct
Central_African 0.23 Pct
Central_Euro 6.90 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.69 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 4.47 Pct
East_Med 2.65 Pct
Eastern_Euro 6.91 Pct
Fennoscandian 4.19 Pct
French 5.83 Pct
Iberian 14.80 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 10.53 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 1.64 Pct
North_African 0.43 Pct
North_Atlantic 9.64 Pct
North_Caucasian 1.40 Pct
North_Sea 15.20 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.09 Pct
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 2.04 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.18 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.24 Pct
West_Med 2.60 Pct
Dude she’s just jealous that she doesn’t score EHG like we do.
Ofcourse I score EHG lol. But I'm happy I don't have peasant look like you.
vbnetkhio
11-22-2019, 09:00 PM
Population
https://i.imgur.com/iq2hAXR.png
It's certainly older but I don't think it's any less tight. Core NW Europe has had very little mixing with outsiders. Belarussians for example are further from Latvians than Bretons are from Swedes, in spite of Finnic admixture in the latter.
Do you mean people from Northern France are closer to people from Sweden than Belorussians are to Latvians? I'm not sure about that. The difference between the two clusters should be at least comparable.
TheOldNorth
11-22-2019, 09:06 PM
https://i.imgur.com/iq2hAXR.png
interesting, I'm probably right their because of the mix of mostly NW euro with a little Ashkenazi (1/2 south euro 1/2 levantine) dragging me down and east
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