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Leto

11-22-2019, 09:13 PM

interesting, I'm probably right their because of the mix of mostly NW euro with a little Ashkenazi (1/2 south euro 1/2 levantine) dragging me down and east
You ended up plotting very close to the Tyrol Austrian. I guess that's Western Austria, no Slavic admixture. Basically Celtic and Germanic.

WhatsGoingOnBigGuy

11-22-2019, 09:19 PM

Would someone mind plotting my Ancestry data? thanks

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 4.68 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 10.27 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 7.70 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 11.18 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 8.53 Pct
Fennoscandian 3.78 Pct
French 7.09 Pct
Iberian 3.05 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 8.52 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 13.67 Pct
North_Caucasian 1.14 Pct
North_Sea 17.27 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 1.56 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.42 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 1.16 Pct

TheOldNorth

11-22-2019, 09:19 PM

You ended up plotting very close to the Tyrol Austrian. I guess that's Western Austria, no Slavic admixture. Basically Celtic and Germanic.

very central/southern, maybe italic or etruscan admixture too

vbnetkhio

11-22-2019, 09:49 PM

Would someone mind plotting my Ancestry data? thanks

https://i.imgur.com/wlBYIOI.png

Leto

11-22-2019, 09:50 PM

Let's add Arslan, the Baltic Bosniak from Tuzla :)

Arslan
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 0.94 Pct
Basque 0.82 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 8.68 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 5.22 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 15.46 Pct
East_Med 4.28 Pct
Eastern_Euro 15.19 Pct
Fennoscandian 9.28 Pct
French 3.37 Pct
Iberian 1.57 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 10.30 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 4.24 Pct
North_Caucasian 5.22 Pct
North_Sea 8.46 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.33 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.14 Pct
West_Med 4.49 Pct

Luke35

11-22-2019, 09:56 PM

interesting, I'm probably right their because of the mix of mostly NW euro with a little Ashkenazi (1/2 south euro 1/2 levantine) dragging me down and east

I can see you are shifted quite a bit east compared to my mom, who is of mostly West German ancestry- she is near Belgium and user Wisteria. So I would agree you get a notable shift SE from your non- NW ancestry.

TheOldNorth

11-22-2019, 10:00 PM

I can see you are shifted quite a bit east compared to my mom, who is of mostly West German ancestry- she is near Belgium and user Wisteria. So I would agree you get a notable shift SE from your non- NW ancestry.

It makes sense sense I'm about 3/4 NW euro (mostly of ancient celtic extraction) and taking into account the genetic studies of Ashkenazi Jews, probably 1/8 South euro (roman), and 1/8 levantine Canaanite.

J. Ketch

11-22-2019, 10:03 PM

Do you mean people from Northern France are closer to people from Sweden than Belorussians are to Latvians? I'm not sure about that. The difference between the two clusters should be at least comparable.
The distances are comparable, my point was that the NW European cluster isn't any less tight. People from Brittany specifically are closer to Swedes according to Global25 averages, the Swedish average includes North Swedes as well.

Via Global 25

Distance to: French_Brittany
0.01043057 Welsh
0.01199685 English
0.01254691 English_Cornwall
0.01312584 Scottish
0.01312759 Orcadian
0.01408921 Irish
0.01802312 Dutch
0.02106514 Shetlandic
0.02284432 German
0.02305004 Icelandic
0.02345359 Norwegian
0.02482318 Belgian
0.02916131 Swedish
0.03399901 French_East
0.03498077 French
0.03512826 Swiss_German
0.03628272 Welsh_o
0.03701512 Austrian
0.03839915 German_East
0.04513358 Czech
0.04668312 Hungarian
0.04992123 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige_o
0.04998532 Swiss_French
0.05178823 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.05253958 Slovenian

Distance to: Belarusian
0.01060074 Russian_Smolensk
0.01323328 Lithuanian_PA
0.01517454 Russian_Voronez
0.01647067 Russian_Orel
0.01783966 Lithuanian_VA
0.01884462 Russian_Kursk
0.01907950 Ukrainian
0.02103387 Cossack_Ukrainian
0.02130595 Lithuanian_VZ
0.02138159 Polish
0.02185954 Lithuanian_RA
0.02411504 Russian_Tver
0.02683077 Estonian
0.02842992 Lithuanian_SZ
0.02910960 Lithuanian_PZ
0.03042430 Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.03161100 Latvian
0.04073178 Slovakian
0.04419364 Czech
0.04496112 Russian_Kostroma
0.04644091 Cossack_Kuban
0.04864873 Ingrian
0.04940744 Mordovian
0.05017807 German_East
0.05051690 Finnish

https://i.postimg.cc/HxGnqmg3/europca.png

vbnetkhio

11-22-2019, 10:10 PM

Let's add Arslan, the Baltic Bosniak from Tuzla :)

wow
https://i.imgur.com/SbNrOe4.png

TheOldNorth

11-22-2019, 10:10 PM

The distances are comparable, my point was that the NW European cluster isn't any less tight. People from Brittany specifically are closer to Swedes according to Global25 averages, the Swedish average includes North Swedes as well.

Via Global 25

Distance to: French_Brittany
0.01043057 Welsh
0.01199685 English
0.01254691 English_Cornwall
0.01312584 Scottish
0.01312759 Orcadian
0.01408921 Irish
0.01802312 Dutch
0.02106514 Shetlandic
0.02284432 German
0.02305004 Icelandic
0.02345359 Norwegian
0.02482318 Belgian
0.02916131 Swedish
0.03399901 French_East
0.03498077 French
0.03512826 Swiss_German
0.03628272 Welsh_o
0.03701512 Austrian
0.03839915 German_East
0.04513358 Czech
0.04668312 Hungarian
0.04992123 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige_o
0.04998532 Swiss_French
0.05178823 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.05253958 Slovenian

Distance to: Belarusian
0.01060074 Russian_Smolensk
0.01323328 Lithuanian_PA
0.01517454 Russian_Voronez
0.01647067 Russian_Orel
0.01783966 Lithuanian_VA
0.01884462 Russian_Kursk
0.01907950 Ukrainian
0.02103387 Cossack_Ukrainian
0.02130595 Lithuanian_VZ
0.02138159 Polish
0.02185954 Lithuanian_RA
0.02411504 Russian_Tver
0.02683077 Estonian
0.02842992 Lithuanian_SZ
0.02910960 Lithuanian_PZ
0.03042430 Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.03161100 Latvian
0.04073178 Slovakian
0.04419364 Czech
0.04496112 Russian_Kostroma
0.04644091 Cossack_Kuban
0.04864873 Ingrian
0.04940744 Mordovian
0.05017807 German_East
0.05051690 Finnish

https://i.postimg.cc/HxGnqmg3/europca.png

darn I'm just so slightly to far to the left to be on that map

Leto

11-22-2019, 10:11 PM

Thanks, great info.

I guess Lithuanian PA is from Southern Lithuania, near the Belarus border. Peterski posted some academic samples from there which he believed to be part Slavic. Also, it's probably not unimportant where the Belarus reference is from (South or North).

The Brittany French matches are all understandable, the closest pops are Celtic NW Europeans.

Leto

11-22-2019, 10:14 PM

wow
Holy shoot, he is super Northern for a South Slav!

WhatsGoingOnBigGuy

11-22-2019, 10:15 PM

https://i.imgur.com/wlBYIOI.png

ty

vbnetkhio

11-22-2019, 10:18 PM

Holy shoot, he is super Northern for a South Slav!

people like him give us a clue what early South Slavs were like.
he is halfway between Bosninensis and Voronezh

Omanvassal

11-22-2019, 10:20 PM

wow
https://i.imgur.com/SbNrOe4.png

92959

Leto

11-22-2019, 10:24 PM

people like him give us a clue what early South Slavs were like.
he is halfway between Bosninensis and Voronezh
To be honest I don't know why Vlatko Vukovic is so far away from him. On Eurogenes they are quite similar.

vbnetkhio

11-22-2019, 10:33 PM

To be honest I don't know why Vlatko Vukovic is so far away from him. On Eurogenes they are quite similar.

indeed very similar, but Arslan has double the Eastern Euro admixture which peaks in Komi (so he gets pulled in that direction), and almost no Iberian.

Amerindian: Arabian: Armenian: Basque: Central-African: Central-Euro: East-African: East-Asian: East-Balkan: East-Central-Asian: East-Central-Euro: East-Med: Eastern-Euro: Fennoscandian: French: Iberian: Indo-Chinese: Italian: Malayan: Near-Eastern: North-African: North-Atlantic: North-Caucasian: North-Sea: Northeast-African: Oceanian: Omotic: Pygmy: Siberian: South-Asian: South-Central-Asian: South-Chinese: Volga-Ural: West-African: West-Caucasian: West-Med
VlatkoVukovic 0.00 0.00 3.57 0.00 0.00 8.57 0.00 0.00 8.73 0.00 15.84 1.44 8.93 8.07 4.35 8.59 0.00 7.13 0.00 2.40 0.00 4.49 4.59 7.88 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.27 0.00 0.00 3.16
Arslan 0 0 0.94 0.82 0 8.68 0 0 5.22 0 15.46 4.28 15.19 9.28 3.37 1.57 0 10.3 0 0 0 4.24 5.22 8.46 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.33 0 1.14 4.49

Jana

11-22-2019, 10:35 PM

This guy Arslan is very eastern for person from Bosnia, he might have some Hungarian or Polish ancestry. And yes, some islamised Hungarians and Poles moved to Bosnia after Ottomans were expelled from CE.

vbnetkhio

11-22-2019, 10:36 PM

This guy Arslan is very eastern for person from Bosnia, he might have some Hungarian or Polish ancestry. And yes, some islamised Hungarians and Poles moved to Bosnia after Ottomans were expelled.

i heard about Hungarians, but Poles too? do you have a link with some info?

Leto

11-22-2019, 10:39 PM

This guy Arslan is very eastern for person from Bosnia, he might have some Hungarian or Polish ancestry. And yes, some islamised Hungarians and Poles moved to Bosnia after Ottomans were expelled from CE.
Even Csaba is a Woggistani compared to that Muslim :lol: Hell, Lundiak is more Southern than him!

Jana

11-22-2019, 10:40 PM

i heard about Hungarians, but Poles too? do you have a link?

Saxons too. I'll post it if I find it. Circassians also, but they arrived as slaves.
Btw, in NE Bosnia settled many people during Austro-Hungarian times, for example Hrvoje's Czech ancestry is from his Bosnian Croat side who lived in Gradačac (which is NE Bosnia and close to Tuzla)
There were Ukrainians and others, also in some towns which are now in Republika Srpska and they assimilated. I wouldn't expect them to mix with muslims but you never know.

Or maybe he is just very Slavic and pure. In Tuzla region many have origins from medieval Slavonia. It is funny because Bosniaks carry more old Slavonian blood than modern Slavonian Croats do, who are mostly BiH Catholics (Šokci), and recent 20th century migrants from Herzegovina, Dalmatia etc.

Jana

11-22-2019, 10:43 PM

Even Csaba is a Woggistani compared to that Muslim :lol: Hell, Lundiak is more Southern than him!

But Csaba 23andme data is very northern :p I trust it more.
It captures his Volga-Ural component which ancestryDNA failed to show, for example.

Omanvassal

11-22-2019, 10:48 PM

Can I see Puntdnal K13 for Bosnian

Daos777

11-22-2019, 11:44 PM

Ofcourse I score EHG lol. But I'm happy I don't have peasant look like you.

You score 0 EHG don’t even try to lie. You have peasants fuck meat look so not much better.

Jana

11-23-2019, 12:30 AM

You score 0 EHG don’t even try to lie. You have peasants fuck meat look so not much better.

Ofcourse I do, retard. Just post the calculator which includes EHG samples.

Daos777

11-23-2019, 12:39 AM

Ofcourse I do, retard. Just post the calculator which includes EHG samples.
Scroll up and run the same model I just ran in here with the Baltic HG and screen shot your results cuz you’ll try to lie

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Jana

11-23-2019, 12:49 AM

Target: yo_scaled
Distance: 5.2996% / 0.05299587
44.0Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
37.0Anatolia_Barcin_N
17.0Baltic_LVA_HG
2.0Han

Better fit than davidski model with noise populations reduced

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Scroll up and run the same model I just ran in here with the Baltic HG and screen shot your results cuz you’ll try to lie

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LOL retard, I score higher Baltic HG than you do :lol:
https://i.imgur.com/h7yHXsb.png

Go shot yourself stupid Muzhik xD

Daos777

11-23-2019, 12:57 AM

LOL retard, I score higher Baltic HG than you do :lol:
https://i.imgur.com/h7yHXsb.png

Go shot yourself stupid Muzhik xD

Yeah and you score way higher farmer than me. So your opinion will only be valued if we talk about how to increase wheat yield until then stfu and respect your superiors

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Jana

11-23-2019, 12:58 AM

Yeah and you score way higher farmer than me. So your opinion will only be valued if we talk about how to increase wheat yield until then stfu and respect your superiors

Because of your lack of farmer you look like potato, and I look like Nordic.

Jana

11-23-2019, 01:00 AM

Daos777- the Gorilla xD

https://www.wwf.org.uk/sites/default/files/styles/hero_s/public/2016-09/Medium_WW22557_0.jpg?h=6c69e056&itok=whezEuT3

Daos777

11-23-2019, 01:04 AM

Because of your lack of farmer you look like potato, and I look like Nordic.

Get off TA you have fields to tend to and fake pontids to classify as pure Pontid

War Chef

11-23-2019, 01:23 AM

you guys are nuts

Leto

11-23-2019, 01:47 AM

@Daos, show me your photo please, I can't see your face clearly in the avatar. I wonder if you look more East Slavic or Romanian.

Daos777

11-23-2019, 01:52 AM

@Daos, show me your photo please, I can't see your face clearly in the avatar. I wonder if you look more East Slavic or Romanian.

I look neither in real life. Romanians never think I’m Romanian and Ukrainians don’t think I’m Ukro. They both say I have a foreigner vibe. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191123/c85dc7f5faec0a7aa1eec0a56eb174b7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191123/bd6b780c171fd2f0d254184537c5cd93.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191123/bcd7c43032a713dca1020b0040aa46c5.jpg

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Leto

11-23-2019, 01:57 AM

You're a tough-ass muzhik, haha. I don't think you look like a baboon as Feiichy says. I actually like more coarse, rugged features personally, they are more Indo-European in my imagination. I can also say you don't look particularly Russian either. More like a Balkan Slav to me.

War Chef

11-23-2019, 01:58 AM

You look like you own a grape field and wine cellar xD

MOLDOVAN AS FUCK

Daos777

11-23-2019, 02:18 AM

I’m just a little Moldavian boy who for some reason clusters more with south poles and south ukros

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War Chef

11-23-2019, 02:19 AM

^ The way your temples come out the side of your head (wide) is classically ukrainian trait. Do you have flat occiput backing or no? Not that it would matter

Daos777

11-23-2019, 02:27 AM

^ The way your temples come out the side of your head (wide) is classically ukrainian trait. Do you have flat occiput backing or no? Not that it would matter

Flat and brachy

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War Chef

11-23-2019, 02:39 AM

Flat and brachy

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Welcome to the microcephaly club, what we lack in brain volume, we make up in strength and handsomeness

https://i.imgur.com/IFTuDHQ.gif

Daos777

11-23-2019, 02:48 AM

Welcome to the microcephaly club, what we lack in brain volume, we make up in strength and handsomeness

https://i.imgur.com/IFTuDHQ.gif

Lol she looks like she can be my cousin

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Peterski

11-23-2019, 05:05 AM

Add this one, possibly he could be an unmixed Germanic barbarian invader:
(though there are signals of some Insular Celtic or/and Belgae ancestry too)

R31 - Y-DNA haplogroup R1b-Z302 - dated to 332-419 AD

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z302/

Basque 1.62
Central Euro 5.67
East Central Euro 7.36
Eastern Euro 7.37
Fennoscandian 11.63
French 9.70
Iberian 12.57
Italian 10.26
North Atlantic 11.12
North Sea 21.83
Volga Ural 0.09
West Med 0.77

https://i.imgur.com/c9xjxTT.png

Anthrogenica discussion and G25 results:

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?18871-Ancient-Rome-A-genetic-crossroads-of-Europe-and-the-Mediterranean&p=619564&viewfull=1#post619564

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EDIT:

Add also:

R475 Etruscan "outlier" (out of 3 Etruscans, only this one had Norh African admixture):

Arabian 5.14
Basque 1.39
East Balkan 6.78
East Med 7.20
French 1.25
Iberian 22.21
Italian 23.64
Near Eastern 2.31
North African 10.83
North Sea 3.11
Northeast African 3.38
Omotic 0.11
West Med 12.66

Arhat

11-23-2019, 07:20 AM

What about R1b found in Corded Ware remains Arhat mentioned, was it U106?

The R1b found in CWC Tauber/Germany was R1b-L51 and not U106 but U106 was found in pre-published remains of CWC far in the east where nobody of you and me expected it. My R1a-Z93 ancestors maybe fought against U106 folks for the same ressources far in the east. But this rumours could turn out wrong

Grace O'Malley

11-23-2019, 07:41 AM

The R1b found in CWC Tauber/Germany was R1b-L51 and not U106 but U106 was found in pre-published remains of CWC far in the east where nobody of you and me expected it. My R1a-Z93 ancestors maybe fought against U106 folks for the same ressources far in the east. But this rumours could turn out wrong

That's quite big news. R1b-L51 found in Corded Ware. In the past all Corded Ware was supposedly R1a and Bell Beaker R1b. The latest now is that Bell Beaker was some offshoot of Corded Ware.

TheOldNorth

11-23-2019, 07:50 AM

That's quite big news. R1b-L51 found in Corded Ware. In the past all Corded Ware was supposedly R1a and Bell Beaker R1b. The latest now is that Bell Beaker was some offshoot of Corded Ware.

Yeah, it's likely the Bell beakers where early Italo-celtic corded ware offshoots, while the Corded ware itself divided into the germanic bronze age and the balto-slavic lusatian culture

Grace O'Malley

11-23-2019, 07:53 AM

Yeah, it's likely the Bell beakers where early Italo-celtic corded ware offshoots, while the Corded ware itself divided into the germanic bronze age and the balto-slavic lusatian culture

Apparently Dutch Bell Beakers and an offshoot of Protruding foot. Dutch and British Beakers are very homogeneous so look like they had a northern route.

Remember there are differences in ydna with L21 being the dominant Bell Beaker subclade in Britain and Ireland.

TheOldNorth

11-23-2019, 07:57 AM

Apparently Dutch Bell Beakers and an offshoot of Protruding foot. Dutch and British Beakers are very homogeneous so look like they had a northern route.

this is true, but its thought the bell-beakers themselves originated in the Danube river valley where they where called the early bell beaker, then migrated up the Danube through the alps and Rhine and onto the sea where the made landfall in Iberia, and Britain though they stayed more pure in Britain wiping out 90% of the previous EEF inhabitants.

Leto

11-23-2019, 01:32 PM

people like him give us a clue what early South Slavs were like.
he is halfway between Bosninensis and Voronezh
Another one

Bosna_Tuzla
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.59 Pct
Armenian 1.29 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 10.64 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 11.33 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 15.26 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 11.76 Pct
Fennoscandian 9.99 Pct
French 4.39 Pct
Iberian 7.63 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 12.09 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 5.36 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 5.05 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 3.26 Pct
West_Med 1.35 Pct

vbnetkhio

11-23-2019, 03:23 PM

Another one

https://i.imgur.com/DjqFA51.png

vbnetkhio

11-23-2019, 03:24 PM

Add this one, possibly he could be an unmixed Germanic barbarian invader:
(though there are signals of some Insular Celtic or/and Belgae ancestry too)

https://i.imgur.com/WPyZ41O.png

https://i.imgur.com/NH8cNll.png

Leto

11-23-2019, 05:15 PM

P.O.(Svensk)
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 3.26 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 9.48 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.06 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 11.62 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 2.93 Pct
Fennoscandian 23.02 Pct
French 6.28 Pct
Iberian 7.74 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 1.58 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 12.73 Pct
North_Caucasian 3.05 Pct
North_Sea 17.44 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.79 Pct
West_Med -

73.5% Swedish + 26.5% Danish @ 1.98

I.L.(Svensk)
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 3.49 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 8.03 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.05 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 5.86 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 4.96 Pct
Fennoscandian 19.39 Pct
French 4.69 Pct
Iberian 5.28 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 9.75 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 15.93 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 21.04 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 0.54 Pct

87% Danish + 13% Belorussian @ 2.28

vbnetkhio

11-23-2019, 07:54 PM

P.O.(Svensk)

https://i.imgur.com/FVWUT1m.png

https://i.imgur.com/RmCgXGd.png

Leto

11-25-2019, 10:41 PM

Please add these people (I think I'll need an updated screenshot for NE Europe)

O.V.
Amerindian 0.90 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.41 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 6.09 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 22.85 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 21.94 Pct
Fennoscandian 17.79 Pct
French 2.92 Pct
Iberian 2.12 Pct
Indo-Chinese 0.34 Pct
Italian 2.96 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 3.54 Pct
North_Caucasian 0.23 Pct
North_Sea 7.90 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.41 Pct
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 1.99 Pct
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 1.75 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 2.45 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.43 Pct
West_Med -

I.V.
Amerindian 1.26 Pct
Arabian 0.32 Pct
Armenian -
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.19 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.79 Pct
East_Central_Asian 1.34 Pct
East_Central_Euro 16.48 Pct
East_Med 2.65 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.36 Pct
Fennoscandian 13.08 Pct
French -
Iberian 1.88 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 0.82 Pct
North_Atlantic 5.42 Pct
North_Caucasian 6.16 Pct
North_Sea 8.10 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic 0.48 Pct
Pygmy -
Siberian 8.48 Pct
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 4.09 Pct
South_Chinese 1.94 Pct
Volga-Ural 11.05 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.11 Pct
West_Med -

O.V.Jr
Amerindian 1.78 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.58 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 5.16 Pct
East_Central_Asian 2.35 Pct
East_Central_Euro 17.63 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 15.98 Pct
Fennoscandian 19.22 Pct
French 2.07 Pct
Iberian 3.48 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 5.46 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 1.38 Pct
North_Caucasian 0.93 Pct
North_Sea 5.86 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 3.16 Pct
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 4.20 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 5.29 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.47 Pct
West_Med -

Ilyas_T.
Amerindian 1.07 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 0.47 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 1.63 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 5.69 Pct
East_Central_Asian 3.26 Pct
East_Central_Euro 11.83 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 13.83 Pct
Fennoscandian 19.50 Pct
French 3.31 Pct
Iberian 6.04 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 1.23 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 1.70 Pct
North_Caucasian 6.16 Pct
North_Sea 8.11 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic 0.94 Pct
Pygmy -
Siberian 2.78 Pct
South_Asian 0.15 Pct
South_Central_Asian 1.76 Pct
South_Chinese 0.61 Pct
Volga-Ural 9.30 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.64 Pct
West_Med -

Marianna_L.
Amerindian 0.07 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 0.72 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.04 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 6.35 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 23.92 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 14.74 Pct
Fennoscandian 24.05 Pct
French 5.80 Pct
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 2.38 Pct
North_Caucasian 3.98 Pct
North_Sea 4.82 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian 2.11 Pct
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 2.39 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 1.62 Pct

vbnetkhio

11-25-2019, 11:51 PM

Please add these people (I think I'll need an updated screenshot for NE Europe)

https://i.imgur.com/fX2c0QF.png

https://i.imgur.com/nvRNEmV.png

mitalit

01-20-2020, 10:19 PM

SPANIARD
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.64 Pct
Armenian 1.45 Pct
Basque 5.03 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 2.23 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.63 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 7.01 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 5.42 Pct
Iberian 29.03 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 17.16 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 3.79 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 4.56 Pct
North_Caucasian 0.12 Pct
North_Sea 14.43 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.58 Pct
Omotic 0.68 Pct
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 2.56 Pct
West_Med 1.67 Pct

Kökény

01-23-2020, 12:22 PM

Could you please add me and my mom?

Mine
Amerindian -
Arabian 1.07 Pct
Armenian 1.00 Pct
Basque 0.82 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.51 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian 0.38 Pct
East_Balkan 10.30 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 12.08 Pct
East_Med 3.78 Pct
Eastern_Euro 6.50 Pct
Fennoscandian 3.53 Pct
French 3.24 Pct
Iberian 10.58 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 11.83 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 2.23 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 6.40 Pct
North_Caucasian 3.61 Pct
North_Sea 9.04 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 3.08 Pct
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 3.04 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.33 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.63 Pct
West_Med -

My mom's

Amerindian -
Arabian 1.12 Pct
Armenian 0.22 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.75 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 6.79 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 13.33 Pct
East_Med 2.12 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.11 Pct
Fennoscandian 4.33 Pct
French 4.45 Pct
Iberian 12.24 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 9.75 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 5.24 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 6.42 Pct
North_Caucasian 3.59 Pct
North_Sea 8.40 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 1.08 Pct
South_Asian 0.40 Pct
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 3.78 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.86 Pct
West_Med -

vbnetkhio

01-23-2020, 08:17 PM

SPANIARD

https://i.imgur.com/4AhPrkU.png

vbnetkhio

01-23-2020, 08:20 PM

Could you please add me and my mom?

https://i.imgur.com/dxuCs7f.png

TheOldNorth

01-23-2020, 08:44 PM

add me and my grandmother?
me:
94806

I'm about half English, a quarter german and a quarter jewish

my paternal grandmother:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=94675&d=1579410436

she is about 1/2 ashkenazi, 1/2 sephardi

vbnetkhio

01-23-2020, 08:48 PM

add me and my grandmother?
me:
94806

I'm about half English, a quarter german and a quarter jewish

my paternal grandmother:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=94675&d=1579410436

she is about 1/2 ashkenazi, 1/2 sephardi

could you post it as text

Leto

01-23-2020, 08:55 PM

Add this one too, a friend of a Spaniard I know

Pelayo
Amerindian 0.19 Pct
Arabian 0.32 Pct
Armenian 0.13 Pct
Basque 10.65 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.78 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 1.54 Pct
Eastern_Euro 1.44 Pct
Fennoscandian 8.11 Pct
French 4.65 Pct
Iberian 29.32 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 12.15 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 1.81 Pct
North_African 2.75 Pct
North_Atlantic 5.53 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 9.99 Pct
Northeast_African 2.16 Pct
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.91 Pct
West_Med 7.57 Pct

Kökény

01-23-2020, 08:56 PM

https://i.imgur.com/dxuCs7f.png

Thank you!

TheOldNorth

01-23-2020, 08:57 PM

could you post it as text

My grandmother:
Arabian 7.59
Armenian 7.9
Basque: 1.52
East Balkan: 0.68
East Central Asia: 0.3
East Med: 11.67
Iberian: 12.92
Italian: 23.42
Malayan: 0.94
Near Eastern: 14.47
North African: 2.21
North Atlantic: 1.61
North Caucasian: 7.57
North sea: 0.28
Northeast African: 1.98
Volga-Ural: 0.98
West Med: 3.97

TheOldNorth

01-23-2020, 09:02 PM

could you post it as text

Actually I just realized I'm already on here so just add my grandmother

mitalit

01-23-2020, 09:09 PM

https://i.imgur.com/4AhPrkU.png Thanks bro

TheOldNorth

01-23-2020, 09:31 PM

my mom
Basque: 2.22
Central Euro: 12.39
East Balkan: 0.57
East Central Euro: 1.19
Eastern Euro: 3.43
Fennoscandian: 9.57
French: 4.09
Iberian: 14.94
Italian: 6.15
North Atlantic: 17.87
North Sea: 21.03
South Central Asian: 1.43
West Med: 5.12

Luke35

01-23-2020, 09:39 PM

Thank you!

Oh cool you are waaaaaay out there, I couldn't find you at first! WeirdPlottingDudette :).

Your mom is close to my dad, his position on there is based on a kit I created by using the parent phasing feature on GEDmatch. In fact, you could phase a kit for your father on GEDmatch too, it is a Tier1 application I believe. It used to be free, but I think you have to pay for it now.

Kökény

01-23-2020, 09:52 PM

Oh cool you are waaaaaay out there, I couldn't find you at first! WeirdPlottingDudette :).

Your mom is close to my dad, his position on there is based on a kit I created by using the parent phasing feature on GEDmatch. In fact, you could phase a kit for your father on GEDmatch too, it is a Tier1 application I believe. It used to be free, but I think you have to pay for it now.

I couldn't find myself either. :D
I spotted my mom in the bunch right away. Thanks for the suggestion, I will check it out.

Coastal Elite

01-23-2020, 11:27 PM

Can you please plot my mom

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 4.71 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 6.29 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.89 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 10.69 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 2.19 Pct
Fennoscandian 7.87 Pct
French 8.70 Pct
Iberian 15.15 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 5.67 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 13.48 Pct
North_Caucasian 1.02 Pct
North_Sea 19.59 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 3.73 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -

vbnetkhio

01-24-2020, 03:52 AM

My grandmother:
Arabian 7.59
Armenian 7.9
Basque: 1.52
East Balkan: 0.68
East Central Asia: 0.3
East Med: 11.67
Iberian: 12.92
Italian: 23.42
Malayan: 0.94
Near Eastern: 14.47
North African: 2.21
North Atlantic: 1.61
North Caucasian: 7.57
North sea: 0.28
Northeast African: 1.98
Volga-Ural: 0.98
West Med: 3.97

my mom
Basque: 2.22
Central Euro: 12.39
East Balkan: 0.57
East Central Euro: 1.19
Eastern Euro: 3.43
Fennoscandian: 9.57
French: 4.09
Iberian: 14.94
Italian: 6.15
North Atlantic: 17.87
North Sea: 21.03
South Central Asian: 1.43
West Med: 5.12

could you just copy paste them dierectly from gedmatch, with zero values?

vbnetkhio

01-24-2020, 04:14 AM

Add this one too, a friend of a Spaniard I know

Can you please plot my mom

https://i.imgur.com/RtZxj1o.png

https://i.imgur.com/SvsDT9Q.png

Ljubic

01-24-2020, 05:13 AM

Can you add my uncle too?

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 2.13 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 9.91 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 9.27 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 18.00 Pct
East_Med 6.17 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.29 Pct
Fennoscandian 6.82 Pct
French 7.44 Pct
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 16.12 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 1.16 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 5.59 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 2.53 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.48 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.66 Pct
West_Med 3.42 Pct

vbnetkhio

01-24-2020, 10:07 AM

Can you add my uncle too?

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 2.13 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 9.91 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 9.27 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 18.00 Pct
East_Med 6.17 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.29 Pct
Fennoscandian 6.82 Pct
French 7.44 Pct
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 16.12 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 1.16 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 5.59 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 2.53 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.48 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.66 Pct
West_Med 3.42 Pct

https://i.imgur.com/JxogjZU.png

Ljubic

01-24-2020, 11:16 AM

https://i.imgur.com/JxogjZU.png

Thank you!

Luke35

01-24-2020, 11:45 AM

Can you please plot my mom

Cool Daco, my mom is due south from your mom on there. Did you use your mom's 23andMe data? That's my mom's AncestryDNA data.

Ljubic

01-24-2020, 01:20 PM

Where does Croatia_127 come from? Or is it the total average?

Coastal Elite

01-24-2020, 01:34 PM

Cool Daco, my mom is due south from your mom on there. Did you use your mom's 23andMe data? That's my mom's AncestryDNA data.

Yup, I used 23andMe data. I'm betting my dad plots due south of your dad.

Coastal Elite

01-24-2020, 01:34 PM

https://i.imgur.com/RtZxj1o.png

https://i.imgur.com/SvsDT9Q.png

Thanks!

Luke35

01-24-2020, 01:54 PM

Yup, I used 23andMe data. I'm betting my dad plots due south of your dad.

Good chance of that. You drop more significantly south, relative to your mom's position, than I do. So, in theory, the difference between your mother and father's Med elements is more dramatic than my parents, which is to be expected.

Also, we both plot more or less equal distance (East/West) from our mom's, so yeah, good chance that your father could be directly below my dad.

vbnetkhio

01-24-2020, 07:38 PM

Where does Croatia_127 come from? Or is it the total average?

it's an old Croatian average made by Lukasz or Peterski

TheOldNorth

01-25-2020, 02:44 AM

could you just copy paste them dierectly from gedmatch, with zero values?

I'm not including me here, because I realized you added me a long time ago and I just forgot

Grandma
Amerindian -
Arabian 7.59 Pct
Armenian 7.90 Pct
Basque 1.52 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.68 Pct
East_Central_Asian 0.30 Pct
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 11.67 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian 12.92 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 23.42 Pct
Malayan 0.94 Pct
Near_Eastern 14.47 Pct
North_African 2.21 Pct
North_Atlantic 1.61 Pct
North_Caucasian 7.57 Pct
North_Sea 0.28 Pct
Northeast_African 1.98 Pct
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.98 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 3.97 Pct

Mom
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 2.22 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 12.39 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.57 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 1.19 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 3.43 Pct
Fennoscandian 9.57 Pct
French 4.09 Pct
Iberian 14.94 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 6.15 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 17.87 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 21.03 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 1.43 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 5.12 Pct

vbnetkhio

01-25-2020, 09:29 AM

I'm not including me here, because I realized you added me a long time ago and I just forgot

https://i.imgur.com/Mbm4Q54.png
https://i.imgur.com/XqfClgY.png

Franciscus

06-24-2020, 06:20 PM

Hello,
any chance to add me yet,
thank you

Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 2.16 Pct
Basque 8.98 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.94 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.87 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 4.77 Pct
Eastern_Euro 0.82 Pct
Fennoscandian 3.49 Pct
French 3.80 Pct
Iberian 28.42 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 16.44 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 1.89 Pct
North_African 3.06 Pct
North_Atlantic 9.35 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 3.18 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 5.82 Pct

alnortedelsur

06-24-2020, 06:40 PM

Me:

Population
Amerindian 5.99 Pct
Arabian 0.46 Pct
Armenian 1.54 Pct
Basque 6.18 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 2.74 Pct
East_African 0.86 Pct
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 4.56 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 7.66 Pct
Eastern_Euro 2.33 Pct
Fennoscandian 1.91 Pct
French 5.20 Pct
Iberian 19.76 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 12.84 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 1.64 Pct
North_African 4.46 Pct
North_Atlantic 4.04 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 8.18 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 0.33 Pct
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African 4.10 Pct
West_Caucasian 1.60 Pct
West_Med 3.61 Pct

My Spanish mom:

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 2.96 Pct
Armenian -
Basque 4.57 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 2.00 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 5.73 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 8.62 Pct
Eastern_Euro 0.54 Pct
Fennoscandian -
French 0.53 Pct
Iberian 26.45 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 14.43 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 2.64 Pct
North_African 3.75 Pct
North_Atlantic 14.63 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 6.41 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African 0.31 Pct
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 6.42 Pct

alnortedelsur

06-24-2020, 06:46 PM

My niece (half Venezuelan/Spanish, half white Murican):

Population
Amerindian 1.06 Pct
Arabian 2.59 Pct
Armenian -
Basque 2.09 Pct
Central_African 0.41 Pct
Central_Euro 2.13 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.73 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 3.75 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 2.63 Pct
Fennoscandian 1.11 Pct
French 6.26 Pct
Iberian 21.63 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 16.91 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 0.11 Pct
North_African 2.80 Pct
North_Atlantic 14.21 Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 15.27 Pct
Northeast_African 0.55 Pct
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.23 Pct
West_African 1.72 Pct
West_Caucasian 0.51 Pct
West_Med 3.30 Pct

vbnetkhio

06-25-2020, 07:13 PM

Me:

Hello,
any chance to add me yet,
thank you

here you go.
https://i.imgur.com/iYOdFnA.png

i wont be doing this anymore, as i don't find this interesting anymore, now i've moved onto more advanced genetic tools.

if anybody is still interested, i made this offline program in which you can plot yourself:
100094

just unzip the folder and double click the .htm file. it should open in your browser.
the usage is the same as for the Tolan's k15 plot. The map on which you plot yourself is in the folder.

alnortedelsur

06-25-2020, 08:37 PM

here you go.
https://i.imgur.com/iYOdFnA.png

i wont be doing this anymore, as i don't find this interesting anymore, now i've moved onto more advanced genetic tools.

if anybody is still interested, i made this offline program in which you can plot yourself:
100094

just unzip the folder and double click the .htm file. it should open in your browser.
the usage is the same as for the Tolan's k15 plot. The map on which you plot yourself is in the folder.

Thanks bro! :)

It's an honor for me to be the last one xD

Franciscus

06-26-2020, 03:00 PM

Great, thank you!