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Xz2k9
10-14-2019, 07:04 PM
Nice video made by a Turk. I liked it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp-Rs3kDDcs

MinervaItalica
10-14-2019, 07:16 PM
History of Albania: Romans > Angevin Naples > Venetian > Turk > Italian.

Xz2k9
10-14-2019, 07:30 PM
There are also a lot of things this video doesn't include but it was nice

MinervaItalica
10-14-2019, 07:31 PM
Yes, it doesn't mention Venetian Albania which lasted from the end of 1300 to the end of 1700. No wonder if the video was made by a Kebob...

Annihilus
10-14-2019, 07:31 PM
https://youtu.be/WTs4cnhcHdc

Ujku
10-16-2019, 09:17 PM
https://youtu.be/WTs4cnhcHdc

Are there any similar Albanian only villages? I know that there many around Izmir , they were Expelled with the lausanne treaty from Greece. They were Cham Albanians .
Bursa has also many Albanians , and of course Stambolli .

Petros Houhoulis
10-16-2019, 09:22 PM
Nice video made by a Turk. I liked it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp-Rs3kDDcs

I hope you use that video to make historical claims! Everybody is going to be laughing at you!!!

I loved the Angevine part the most...

Petros Houhoulis
10-16-2019, 09:23 PM
There are also a lot of things this video doesn't include but it was nice

It includes already the Angevines, so stop bitching!!!

Ujku
10-16-2019, 09:24 PM
I hope you use that video to make historical claims! Everybody is going to be laughing at you!!!

I loved the Angevine part the most...

This is a stupid fun made video...just shows the history of the region .

Petros Houhoulis
10-16-2019, 09:56 PM
This is a stupid fun made video...just shows the history of the region .

Could you make a better one without dubious connections to Ancient Illyrian tribes whose relation to modern Albanians is tentative at best, gaps of thousands of years, French colonies branded as Albanian states and what not?

You don't feature much in the history of the region. Even if the Illyrians were Albanians, I don't what would make you proud of them, or what would make you proud of anybody besides Skanderbeg... And your claim to him is not the best either!

E24-H08
10-19-2019, 03:09 PM
Skanderbeg... And your claim to him is not the best either!

Ah yes, because he was Greek, or Serbian, or both perhaps? :picard1:

Petros Houhoulis
10-19-2019, 11:22 PM
Ah yes, because he was Greek, or Serbian, or both perhaps? :picard1:

Nobody can say for sure. I believe that he was mixed like all of the nobles of his time. Family names alone betray a variety of backgrounds. His surname was Greek with Latin roots...

Xz2k9
10-20-2019, 01:48 AM
Nobody can say for sure. I believe that he was mixed like all of the nobles of his time. Family names alone betray a variety of backgrounds. His surname was Greek with Latin roots...

His surname was Albanian from the Kastrati tribe or similar to that name. By some it's believed they came from the Kastrati tribe. Kastrat, Kastriot are all used Albanian names and Kastrioti Albanian surname... Latin words in Albanian is nothing unusual, or even Muslim, Slavic or even Greek... Says nothing about a persons origin.

And yeah he was Albanian, at least paternally, his mother might of been a South Slav. Some Albanians have taken South Slavic brides. And yeah, Albanians most certainly can claim him if you look at who he fought with and what he did. Same way we can claim Illyrians.

Xz2k9
10-20-2019, 01:54 AM
History of Albania: Romans > Angevin Naples > Venetian > Turk > Italian.

Certainly is much more history than that. Lots of Albanian principalities that ruled that region and neighboring areas. Also huge history prior to Romans. Mind you I don't believe the origin of every Albanian to even be within the borders of modern Albania also.

Venetians never held much lands. They mostly held parts of Western Albania and Southern Montenegro. It's not mentioning things that are much more important than the Venetian one.


Yes, it doesn't mention Venetian Albania which lasted from the end of 1300 to the end of 1700. No wonder if the video was made by a Kebob...

You mean those same Venetians that sided with the Ottomans against Albanians ?

Yeah, those ones you now call kebabs ? :D

Uski
10-20-2019, 03:38 PM
Fellas i see some of you are new here, Petros is just trolling yall so ignore him. Pete calm down man this aint political

Petros Houhoulis
10-23-2019, 09:38 PM
His surname was Albanian from the Kastrati tribe or similar to that name. By some it's believed they came from the Kastrati tribe. Kastrat, Kastriot are all used Albanian names and Kastrioti Albanian surname... Latin words in Albanian is nothing unusual, or even Muslim, Slavic or even Greek... Says nothing about a persons origin.

And yeah he was Albanian, at least paternally, his mother might of been a South Slav. Some Albanians have taken South Slavic brides. And yeah, Albanians most certainly can claim him if you look at who he fought with and what he did. Same way we can claim Illyrians.

Ah, castrati! I've heard of them before!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castrato


A castrato (Italian, plural: castrati) is a type (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_type) of classical (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_music) male singing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singing) voice (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_voice) equivalent to that of a soprano (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soprano), mezzo-soprano (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mezzo-soprano), or contralto (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contralto). The voice is produced by castration (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castration) of the singer before puberty (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty), or it occurs in one who, due to an endocrinological (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endocrinology) condition, never reaches sexual maturity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_maturity).
Castration before puberty (or in its early stages) prevents a boy's larynx (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larynx) from being transformed by the normal physiological events (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_change) of puberty. As a result, the vocal range (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocal_range) of prepubescence (shared by both sexes) is largely retained, and the voice develops into adulthood in a unique way. Prepubescent castration for this purpose diminished greatly in the late 18th century and was made illegal in the Papal states (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_states), the last to prohibit them, in 1870.
As the castrato's body grew, his lack of testosterone meant that his epiphyses (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphyses) (bone-joints) did not harden in the normal manner. Thus the limbs of the castrati often grew unusually long, as did the bones of their ribs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rib). This, combined with intensive training, gave them unrivalled lung-power (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lung_capacity) and breath capacity.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castrato#cite_note-1) Operating through small, child-sized vocal cords (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocal_cords), their voices were also extraordinarily flexible, and quite different from the equivalent adult female voice. Their vocal range was higher than that of the uncastrated adult male. Listening to the only surviving recordings of a castrato (see below), one can hear that the lower part of the voice sounds like a "super-high" tenor, with a more falsetto (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsetto)-like upper register above that.
Castrati were rarely referred to as such: in the 18th century, the euphemism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphemism) musico (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musico) (pl musici) was much more generally used, although it usually carried derogatory implications;[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castrato#cite_note-2) another synonym was evirato, literally meaning "emasculated (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emasculated)". Eunuch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eunuch) is a more general term since, historically, many eunuchs were castrated after puberty and thus the castration had no impact on their voices.



Interesting family, those Kastrati...

Petros Houhoulis
10-25-2019, 08:21 PM
respect

Yes, respect to those poor castrated kids!

valentinavalley2
10-25-2019, 08:30 PM
Could you make a better one without dubious connections to Ancient Illyrian tribes whose relation to modern Albanians is tentative at best, gaps of thousands of years, French colonies branded as Albanian states and what not?

You don't feature much in the history of the region. Even if the Illyrians were Albanians, I don't what would make you proud of them, or what would make you proud of anybody besides Skanderbeg... And your claim to him is not the best either!

1. Illyrians didn’t have to wipe out a nation to steal their lands like the Greeks did to Trojans, so yes we are proud to be Illyrians
2. Illyrians didn’t colonised a lot of nations with their armies, like Greeks did in ancient times. So yes we are proud to be Illyrian
The Illyrians my not have built a lot, but they worked hard to save their culture, which is why we exist, they were even you can say peaceful, they only attacked if you attacked them first.


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