Classify Turkish football players Caglar Soyuncu and Mert Gunok

[Centurion]

Caglar Soyuncu

Born in Izmir (Aegean region)

Height: 1m87

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Mert Gunok


Born in Karabuk (Black Sea region)

Height: 1m96

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[Bakha]

1st one is really good looking, fully euro; north pontid + cm + turanic influence

[Kivan]

1. Cromagnid.
2. Subnordid + Turanid.

[Cristiano viejo]

Greek devsirme descendants.

[Dna8]

https://turkish-football.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/GettyImages-103642740.jpg

Sleepy eyed gangsta.

I can imagine him in a sequel of, The Departed, playing a local Boston criminal.

[Cristiano viejo]

Sleepy eyed gangsta.

I can imagine him in a sequel of, The Departed, playing a local Boston criminal.

Now dont you ask if they are fully native? :rofl:

[archangel]

1-North Pontid with Turanid
2-Cm/North Pontid

[Dna8]

Would members agree, the second aesthetic is more northern shifted than the first aesthetic?

[Dna8]

1-North Pontid with Turanid
2-Cm/North Pontid

Similar to my perception, though, I wasn't man enough to suggest that the first aesthetic has Turanid as a component part, and so restricted myself to a digression.

I also perceive the Turkic (very mild), if not Turanidic, of the second aesthetic.

[xtal]

1) CM + north pontid + turanid influence
2) nordid - north pontid range

[Rico33]

If nobody knew they were Turks, nobody would have mentioned 'Turanid'.
Biased as hell.

[Dna8]

If nobody knew they were Turks, nobody would have mentioned 'Turanid'.
Biased as hell.

A reasonable point.

[Rico33]

A reasonable point.

Say they are Brits or French and people will go 'Atlantic' or even Troender and whatnot...

[Dna8]

Say they are Brits or French and people will go 'Atlantic' or even Troender and whatnot...

I utterly agree.

[Centurion]

If nobody knew they were Turks, nobody would have mentioned 'Turanid'.
Biased as hell.


True true. I mean, they don't look at all like that.

http://humanphenotypes.net/basic/turanidm.jpg

I would easily have guessed the first one as Atlantid and the second one as Tronder.

I think they are East-Med/Pontid/CM mixed with some Nordid elements.

[Kutlu]

1- North Pontid- Pontid with some Turanid imho
2- North Pontid though not really sure

[archangel]

Say they are Brits or French and people will go 'Atlantic' or even Troender and whatnot...

First one(Çağlar) has clear Turanid influence

[Rico33]

First one(Çağlar) has clear Turanid influence

There are plenty of western Europeans who have it too. But it is not recognized as such or people say it is CM or convergent evolution.

[Pater Patota]

Yeah, Chris Pratt aka Star Lord from GOTG and Avengers End game, he is also Turanid but he's Westerner so we shouldn't say he was Turanid.:picard1:

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[Salonikios]

As I learned Çağlar Söyüncü is Albanian from mother side and Bosniak from father side. He was born in İzmir though. He is North Pontid with cm. I guess cm people can have such eyes. Andy Whitfield have asian like eyes too but he is good example of North Atlantid.