Who is Balkan and who is Slavic according to Tsne

[ph2ter]

:dunno: (A little provocative post)

https://i.imgur.com/3OmkDwv.png

[ph2ter]

Of course, the distance between Slavic and Balkan cluster in Tsne is exaggerated, i.e. does not mean anything.
In some runs they come very close.

[ph2ter]

The plot above is part of this big plot:

https://i.imgur.com/jPHZTTq.png

[Lucas]

@Pht2ter

Can you make K36 Ancient T-SNE plot?

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1G12kpISpYq96iWGJgxpEZDLFd3ZEm52L

[ph2ter]

removed duplicate

[ph2ter]

@Pht2ter

Can you make K36 Ancient T-SNE plot?

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1G12kpISpYq96iWGJgxpEZDLFd3ZEm52L

I will do.

[Peterski]

I will do.

Include these samples please (if they are not in that spreadsheet I will send you their results):

1. Neolithic & Copper Age:

UKR_Dereivka_I_En2:I4110

2. Bronze Age & Iron Age:

POL_EBA:I6579
Corded_Ware_POL:N47
Corded_Ware_POL:N49
HUN_Vatya:RISE479
HUN_Mako_EBA:I1502
Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA:I3528
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5531
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I5025
Scythian_HUN:DA191
Scythian_UKR:scy009

3. Migration Period & Medieval:

CZE_Early_Slav:RISE569
HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:MJ19
KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84005
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm035
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160

If I have time I will post their results later.

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This is RISE479, Hungary Vatya culture:

Kit number - GC9092946

[ph2ter]

Include these samples please (if they are not in that spreadsheet I will send you their results):

1. Neolithic & Copper Age:

UKR_Dereivka_I_En2:I4110

2. Bronze Age & Iron Age:

POL_EBA:I6579
Corded_Ware_POL:N47
Corded_Ware_POL:N49
HUN_Vatya:RISE479
HUN_Mako_EBA:I1502
Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA:I3528
Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5531
Bell_Beaker_CZE:I5025
Scythian_HUN:DA191
Scythian_UKR:scy009

3. Migration Period & Medieval:

CZE_Early_Slav:RISE569
HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:MJ19
KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84005
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm035
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160
Send all results. The names are sometimes different, so I will know if they are already in the spreadsheet if you give me all samples.

[MagnusDark]

Cool. It appears I am on the south east bend of the Balkan cluster.

[ph2ter]

Ancients with my moderns' averages and with users (Amerindian, African and Pacific samples should be removed, because they do not plot logically):

https://i.imgur.com/p50p2HE.png

[Lucas]

Ancients with my moderns' averages and with users (Amerindian, African and Pacific samples should be removed, because they do not plot logically):

https://i.imgur.com/p50p2HE.png

Yes, leave only Euro and West Asian + west Siberian samples. But looks cool.

[ph2ter]

https://i.imgur.com/xTvEuyF.png

[MagnusDark]

Ancients with my moderns' averages and with users (Amerindian, African and Pacific samples should be removed, because they do not plot logically):

https://i.imgur.com/p50p2HE.png

Cool how me and my father kind of drift towards those ancients instead of the other Balkan averages.

[Leto]

They didn't include my father for some reason. He's been on GEDmatch for almost 2 years.

[ph2ter]

Some users are excluded from K36 plot because the algorithm does not tolerate duplicate values. I excluded duplicate values in Excel automatically, and accordingly I don't know which nicks are preserved in table and which are thrown out.

[ph2ter]

They didn't include my father for some reason. He's been on GEDmatch for almost 2 years.

Your dad is 'BELARUS' on the last two plots. :redface_002: