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Laag
10-17-2019, 05:28 PM
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Daos777
10-17-2019, 05:31 PM
Moldova


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ixulescu
10-17-2019, 05:33 PM
they pass in both, they might be Romanians from the Moldova region.

Seya
10-17-2019, 05:40 PM
moldova (both moldovas)

Laag
10-17-2019, 05:54 PM
moldova (both moldovas)

In Romanian Moldova live Romanians or Moldovans?

ixulescu
10-17-2019, 05:58 PM
In Romanian Moldova live Romanians or Moldovans?

Moldovans are Romanians, there's no real difference

Seya
10-17-2019, 05:58 PM
In Romanian Moldova live Romanians or Moldovans?

romanian moldovians :lol:

Laag
10-17-2019, 06:02 PM
romanian moldovians :lol:

Romanized Moldovans?

ixulescu
10-17-2019, 06:08 PM
Romanized Moldovans?

what is that?

it's like saying Moldovenized Moldovans

Viridian1
10-17-2019, 06:08 PM
Romanized Moldovans?

Moldovians and Romanians are the same, in fact Romanian language is actually Moldovian language.

And the girls pass in Moldova more due to high slavic minority carrying Baltic phenotype.

Aspirin
10-17-2019, 06:10 PM
Romanized Moldovans?

Yes.

Seya
10-17-2019, 06:13 PM
Romanized Moldovans?

what is it a romanized moldovian? romania has 4 big regions, moldova is one of them

Laag
10-17-2019, 06:52 PM
what is it a romanized moldovian? romania has 4 big regions, moldova is one of them

Moldovans whom the Romanian chauvinists want to make think that they are Romanians.

Seya
10-17-2019, 06:58 PM
Moldovans whom the Romanian chauvinists want to make think that they are Romanians.

who are the romanians according to u? the moldovians, the wallachians or the transylvanians? :)))

WeirdLookingFellow
10-17-2019, 07:01 PM
5, 7 and 8 don't pass that well in Romania. The rest do, and even 5 does if you consider Transylvania.

Aspirin
10-17-2019, 07:22 PM
who are the romanians according to u? the moldovians, the wallachians or the transylvanians? :)))



Însă Vlahia, acești gheografi și mai toț istoricii câț scriu de aceste țări, zicea și Moldovei, și ceștiia. Apoi o împarte în doauă: una de sus, alta de jos îi zic; le zic și mai mare și mai mică: cea de sus, adecăte și mai mare, Moldova, cea de jos și mai mică, Ţara această Muntenească numeind, cum îi zic mai mulți așa, că Rumânească numai lăcuitorii ei o chiamă, și doar unii den erdeleani, rumâni. Pentru că și aceia și ceștea numai când să întreabă ce iaste, ei răspund: rumâni. Iar moldoveanii să osebesc, de să răspund: moldovan, săvai că și ei sânt de un neam și de un rod cu ceștia, cum mai nainte mai pre larg vom arăta cu mărturiile multora.


:rolleyes:

ixulescu
10-17-2019, 07:26 PM
Însă Vlahia, acești gheografi și mai toț istoricii câț scriu de aceste țări, zicea și Moldovei, și ceștiia. Apoi o împarte în doauă: una de sus, alta de jos îi zic; le zic și mai mare și mai mică: cea de sus, adecăte și mai mare, Moldova, cea de jos și mai mică, Ţara această Muntenească numeind, cum îi zic mai mulți așa, că Rumânească numai lăcuitorii ei o chiamă, și doar unii den erdeleani, rumâni. Pentru că și aceia și ceștea numai când să întreabă ce iaste, ei răspund: rumâni. Iar moldoveanii să osebesc, de să răspund: moldovan, săvai că și ei sânt de un neam și de un rod cu ceștia, cum mai nainte mai pre larg vom arăta cu mărturiile multora.

You missed the fundamental part, now bolded.

For those who don't read Romanian. This quote si from the work of a Moldovan chronicler confirming in the 1700s that Moldovans are the same people as Wallachians, with the same origin (the bolded part).

Aspirin
10-17-2019, 07:35 PM
fixed the bolded part for you

Absolutely useless, nobody denied what this ethnicities originate from one medieval population. Slavs originate from one population too, but today they are splitted in many different ethnicities with different genetics.

ixulescu
10-17-2019, 07:38 PM
Absolutely useless, nobody denied what this ethnicities originate from one medieval population. Slavs originate from one population too, but today they are splitted in many different ethnicities with different genetics.

Slavs overall are a huge population - of course they have large genetic and cultural diversity.

This is not the case for Romanians. We were the same people in the 1700s as we are now.

Aspirin
10-17-2019, 07:41 PM
You missed the fundamental part, now bolded.

For those who don't read Romanian. This quote si from the work of a Moldovan chronicler confirming in the 1700s that Moldovans are the same people as Wallachians, with the same origin (the bolded part).

Dumbo, this is a Wallachian chronicle, and was written by a Greek. And special for the idiots is written what Moldavians don't call herself Romanians.

https://tiparituriromanesti.wordpress.com/2012/09/20/istoria-tarii-rumanesti-atribuita-stolnicului-constantin-cantacuzino-sec-xviii/

Aspirin
10-17-2019, 07:43 PM
We were the same people in the 1700s as we are now.

Maybe heavily Greek admixed boyars from XVIII century, but not the main population of peasants.

Laag
10-17-2019, 07:47 PM
Moldova


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they pass in both, they might be Romanians from the Moldova region.


moldova (both moldovas)

They Moldovans for sure.

ixulescu
10-17-2019, 07:50 PM
Dumbo, this is a Wallachian chronicle, and was written by a Greek. And special for the idiots is written what Moldavians don't call herself Romanians.


How they called themselves is not relevant. The chronicler shows that they are the same people.
We can speculate on why "Romanian" label was not used in Moldova, unlike Wallachia and Transylvania. One explanation could be that Romans never incorporated the territory of Moldova in the empire and so for most people the culture of calling themselves descendants of Roman citizens didn't exist.

ixulescu
10-17-2019, 07:52 PM
They Moldovans for sure.

Seya asked you a good question: if not all Romanians are Romanians, then who are the "real Romanians": Wallachians, Moldovans or Transylvanians? :D

ixulescu
10-17-2019, 07:53 PM
Maybe heavily Greek admixed boyars from XVIII century, but not the main population of peasants.

nonsense, genetically Moldovans from Romania are no different from Wallachians (Transylvanians are a touch different).

Laag
10-17-2019, 07:56 PM
Seya asked you a good question: if not all Romanians are Romanians, then who are the "real Romanians": Wallachians, Moldovans or Transylvanians? :D

Maube Romanized Wallachians, Moldovans and Transylvanians?

Aspirin
10-17-2019, 07:57 PM
nonsense, genetically Moldovans from Romania are no different from Wallachians (Transylvanians are a touch different).

Close to Wallachians are most of Transylvanians, not Moldavians.

ixulescu
10-17-2019, 07:59 PM
Maube Romanized Wallachians, Moldovans and Transylvanians?

who Romanized them all??

btw, you probably don't know, but Moldovan intellectuals established the speaking and writing norms in Romanian, and are the main contributors to the classical Romanian culture (of the 19th century).

chociprasa
10-17-2019, 08:00 PM
Moldova, but they would pass well in Romania too.

ixulescu
10-17-2019, 08:03 PM
Close to Wallachians are most of Transylvanians, not Moldavians.

Nope, there is a slight genetic cline between Transylvanians and the rest of Romanians, because of the hard natural border of the Carpathians.

There was no such border between Wallachians and Moldovans. Until the Soviets deliberately modified the ethnic composition in Rep of Moldova, Wallachians and Moldovans were the same (barring small regional variations).

Aspirin
10-17-2019, 08:18 PM
Nope, there is a slight genetic cline between Transylvanians and the rest of Romanians, because of the hard natural border of Carpathians.

There was no such border between Wallachians and Moldovans. Until the Soviets deliberately modified the ethnic composition in Rep of Moldova, Wallachians and Moldovans were the same (barring small regional variations).

The most north shifted Romanians are these from Moldova region, and not in the northern side , but in southern parts like Vaslui and even Galați too.

Depiction of Moldova and Wallachia by a Wallachian painter in the mid XIX century. Indeed, both these countries look the same in terms of phenotype.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hkb5AQ3nUTo/VMNbbBPOrsI/AAAAAAAAFtM/jIEMML2zDtY/s1600/Theodor-Aman-Unirea-Principatelor-Wikipedia_cristi-raraitu.blogspot.ro.jpg

ixulescu
10-17-2019, 08:21 PM
The most north shifted Romanians are these from Moldova region, and not in the northern side , but in southern parts like Vaslui and even Galați too.

Depiction of Moldova and Wallachia by a Wallachian painter in the mid XIX century. Indeed, both these countries look the same in terms of phenotype.


you love this picture don't you? :D

it's not an argument though, of course there is gradation from north to south in Romania, just like there is one from east to west.

Laag
10-17-2019, 09:48 PM
who Romanized them all??

btw, you probably don't know, but Moldovan intellectuals established the speaking and writing norms in Romanian, and are the main contributors to the classical Romanian culture (of the 19th century).

Genetically Moldovans closer to Slavs than to Romanians.

Dna8
10-17-2019, 09:53 PM
The set fares better in Moldova on account of it's Slavicisms of aesthetic.