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esaima
07-21-2011, 10:42 AM
Three Estonian celebrities. One of the girls has Russian mother.My question to our experts- which one of them has?
Karl, please do not give away the answer.
A
http://sp2.fotolog.com/photo/50/3/23/vanillaaninjaaaa/1209151757_f.jpg
B
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3328/3489900120_4121546d1c.jpg
C
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3538/3489900756_e366d1ffd3.jpg

Austrvegr
07-21-2011, 10:51 AM
I would say A.

Saruman
07-21-2011, 11:02 AM
First one is Jarvis? And third one is Lenna? :love: Karl "parades" them so I doubt they have a Russian mother. That leaves B I guess.:D

Äike
07-21-2011, 11:10 AM
One of them has a Russian mother? That's new to me. I'm guessing that the east-baltid girl in the middle is half-Russian, with such appearance, her name could be Olga.

Our Russian eastern viking would definitely be happy if Russians looked like the first girl ;), but I haven't seen such Russians here.

So, am I correct? I have no clue about the parents of any of them, I just guessed by appearance.

Peerkons
07-21-2011, 11:19 AM
The first is so do-able.

Saruman
07-21-2011, 11:23 AM
I'm guessing that the east-baltid girl in the middle is half-Russian, with such appearance, her name could be Olga.
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I don't think B looks that East-Baltid, rather to me generalized Ost-Europid with Westbaltid being strongest, some Baltid proper and possibly East-Baltid. Probably slight Nordid too.

Saruman
07-21-2011, 11:47 AM
so B, Katrin Siska her parents were born in Russia.

Austrvegr
07-21-2011, 01:00 PM
so B, Katrin Siska her parents were born in Russia.

She looks the least East Baltid of the three.

Äike
07-21-2011, 01:22 PM
She looks the least East Baltid of the three.

She looks the most East-Baltid and most Russian of the three, because of her Russian ancestry.

Here's a pic from the SNPA (http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/rgbiasutti-eastbalt03a.jpg).

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/index2.htm

Onychodus
07-21-2011, 01:29 PM
All three look Russian

Austrvegr
07-21-2011, 01:40 PM
She looks the most East-Baltid and most Russian of the three, because of her Russian ancestry.


A and C look much more East Baltid due to their wide faces and prominent cheekbones.

The Ripper
07-21-2011, 01:44 PM
I instantly thought "B".

It's the eyes.

poiuytrewq0987
07-21-2011, 01:46 PM
Why are you guys making East Baltid sound like it's a dirty word now? :coffee:

Äike
07-21-2011, 01:54 PM
All three look Russian

I thought that you were a Russian. Either way, Piret/A and Lenna/C look Russian only in Austvegr's wet dreams.


A and C look much more East Baltid due to their wide faces and prominent cheekbones.

prominent cheekbones = Katrin Siska

She also has a east-baltid nose and east-baltid eyes.

Practically saying, Lenna and Piret are more Baltid than Katrin, because Katrin has an east-baltid appearance

Maybe this is news to you, but there are 3 Baltid types.

Äike
07-21-2011, 01:56 PM
Why are you guys making East Baltid sound like it's a dirty word now? :coffee:

east-baltid girls are nice, that borealized look fits women. :)

I'm just trying to guide this Russian Eastern Viking towards the SNPA, so he would stop confusing Baltids with East-Baltids.

The Ripper
07-21-2011, 02:01 PM
Estonian Viking vs. Russian Viking stand-off! Intense!

Hess
07-21-2011, 02:08 PM
I have to agree with some of the others that #2 looks nothing like an east Baltid.

I've studied the SNPA and it's pretty clear to me that none of them look east Baltid, aside from some very minor influences.

Austrvegr
07-21-2011, 02:13 PM
prominent cheekbones = Katrin Siska

She also has a east-baltid nose and east-baltid eyes.

Practically saying, Lenna and Piret are more Baltid than Katrin, because Katrin has an east-baltid appearance

You are an asshole.

Äike
07-21-2011, 02:41 PM
You are an asshole.

:....


...poshel nahui?

The Ripper
07-21-2011, 02:43 PM
Even I know what that means. :D

Laudanum
07-21-2011, 02:49 PM
I love this thread already.

Onychodus
07-21-2011, 03:02 PM
Even I know what that means. :D

iuh?

esaima
07-21-2011, 05:44 PM
First one is Jarvis? And third one is Lenna? :love: Karl "parades" them so I doubt they have a Russian mother. That leaves B I guess.:D
:DOh, that was too easy!Of course, if there have been posted pics of Lenna and Piret Järvis and if you remember the faces ... >and if these pics have been posted by Karl then it must be absolutely certainan that there couldn´t be anything Russian there>Remains girl B, who is neither Lenna nor Piret Järvis and his pics have never been posted by Karl.Girl B is Katrin Siska, her mother Lena is Russian.Элементарно, Ватсон.


Karl; One of them has a Russian mother? That's new to me. I'm guessing that the east-baltid girl in the middle is half-Russian, with such appearance, her name could be Olga.
Oh, you aren´t guessing, lol.You are trying to say that these girls are unknown to you?Don´t know Vanilla Ninja?


Balticus; The first is so do-able. Yes, shes hotter than others.

Blossom
07-21-2011, 05:47 PM
So? The 3rd?

poiuytrewq0987
07-21-2011, 05:48 PM
Girl B is Katrin Siska, her mother Lena is

http://www.fotogeen.com/files/Image/gallery/DSCF7759.jpg

I'd hit it.

Max
07-21-2011, 05:59 PM
Three Estonian celebrities. One of the girls has Russian mother.My question to our experts- which one of them has?
Karl, please do not give away the answer.
A
http://sp2.fotolog.com/photo/50/3/23/vanillaaninjaaaa/1209151757_f.jpg
B
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3328/3489900120_4121546d1c.jpg
C
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3538/3489900756_e366d1ffd3.jpg

They all look Russian... Is that what ethnic Estonians look like:confused:

Äike
07-21-2011, 06:01 PM
:DOh, that was too easy!Of course, if there have been posted pics of Lenna and Piret Järvis and if you remember the faces ... >and if these pics have been posted by Karl then it must be absolutely certainan that there couldn´t be anything Russian there>Remains girl B, who is neither Lenna nor Piret Järvis and his pics have never been posted by Karl.Girl B is Katrin Siska, her mother Lena is Russian.Элементарно, Ватсон.


Oh, you aren´t guessing, lol.You are trying to say that these girls are unknown to you?Don´t know Vanilla Ninja?

I genuinely didn't know which one of them could be half-Russian, I had never thought about that, as Katrin Siska has a perfectly Estonian name. But when looking at Katrin, the Russian ancestry is obvious. I always wondered why I didn't find her as attractive as Piret and Lenna. :p


So? The 3rd?

No... The 3rd girl is Lenna, it's the 2nd girl who is half-Russian.

Äike
07-21-2011, 06:03 PM
They all look Russian... Is that what ethnic Estonians look like:confused:

Maksim, I have lived in a 50/50 Russian/Estonian city for all my life... Maybe you can fool someone who has never seen a Russian.

Russians look visibly alien in countries like Estonia/Sweden/Finland.

Onychodus
07-21-2011, 06:04 PM
They all look Russian... Is that what ethnic Estonians look like:confused:

Slavs had relations with Estonians since 7 century so many Estonians look very Russian

Max
07-21-2011, 06:13 PM
Russians look visibly alien in countries like Estonia/Sweden/Finland.

I would agree that the average Russian would not pass as a native Scandinavian but those girls don't strike me as "Nordic" They have a faces that I have seen many times. When I look at them I immediately think Northwestern Russia/ Northern Poland/Baltic sea

Äike
07-21-2011, 06:14 PM
Slavs had relations with Estonians since 7 century so many Estonians look very Russian

I can smell a troll.

Estonians first came into contact with Slavs(Russians) in the 10th century and the relations were rather hostile.

We can talk of a Slavic/Russian presence in Estonia since the late 20th century, but they're immigrants, just like Turks in Germany.

There's one thing, though, many NW-Russians descend from the native Northern-European/Finnic populations of the region.

I know one thing, 95% of Russians here look visibly foreign and I can(and other Northern-Europeans/Estonians) spot them in a crowd.

Look at my avatar and then think for a second if trolling me is possible.

Onychodus
07-21-2011, 06:26 PM
I can smell a troll.

Estonians first came into contact with Slavs(Russians) in the 10th century and the relations were rather hostile.

We can talk of a Slavic/Russian presence in Estonia since the late 20th century, but they're immigrants, just like Turks in Germany.

There's one thing, though, many NW-Russians descend from the native Northern-European/Finnic populations of the region.

I know one thing, 95% of Russians here look visibly foreign and I can(and other Northern-Europeans/Estonians) spot them in a crowd.

Look at my avatar and then think for a second if trolling me is possible.

So there was no any international marriages between Slavs and Estonians there?
Anyway, honestly these three girls look very Russian.

About trolling: you openly claim that Russian nation is artificial and does not deserve to exist.

And... I was joking but maybe estonian humor is somehow different

Peerkons
07-21-2011, 06:31 PM
Maksim, I have lived in a 50/50 Russian/Estonian city for all my life... Maybe you can fool someone who has never seen a Russian.

Russians look visibly alien in countries like Estonia/Sweden/Finland.

So they do in Latvia.

Peerkons
07-21-2011, 06:32 PM
About trolling: you openly claim that Russian nation is artificial and does not deserve to exist.

I wish it was true....

Mordid
07-21-2011, 06:33 PM
So they do in Latvia.

Didn't Karl said that Latvians often have Balto-Slavic look ? :D

Onychodus
07-21-2011, 06:36 PM
I wish it was true....

What true?

Hess
07-21-2011, 06:40 PM
People on this site have an unhealthy obsession with trying to be Nordic and Scandinavian.


It's pretty funny how how "Italian" and "Greek" are dirty words on anthro forums even though they have contributed more to western civilization than many of the northern European countries :)

Onychodus
07-21-2011, 06:56 PM
Slavs and Balts have common indo-european ancestors so there is nothing shameful in marriage each other

Mordid
07-21-2011, 07:00 PM
Slavs and Balts have common indo-european ancestors so there is nothing shameful in marriage each other

But Balts often look different from Slavs because of Finnic admixture. :rolleyes:

Onychodus
07-21-2011, 07:05 PM
But Balts often look different from Slavs because of Finnic admixture. :rolleyes:

But Finns are Europids so it changes nothing

Austrvegr
07-21-2011, 07:50 PM
Autosomal comparison between Slavs (mostly Russians) and Finns.

http://s41.radikal.ru/i093/1107/9c/e19cc11bfed4t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s41.radikal.ru/i093/1107/9c/e19cc11bfed4.jpg.html)