Cordedwhelp’s Ashkenazi Ancestry May Come from Danish Jews

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My mother’s maiden name is Not increadibly rare in Scandinavia, but not one of the most common names and is one some danish Jews have been known to take. I have never known Precisely from which lineage her 5.8% AJ (per 23) originates. Tacking it onto her Belarusian side was always the most tempting, but she consistently behaves on 23 and eurogenes calcs as someone over half Eastern European.

Just today I have noticed on her 23 account a new match, bearing the name (although as a 3rd to distant cousin)...I have since sent him a request to connect and a message inquiring if his surname came out of Copenhagen. Interestingly, he scores tiny bits of broadly NW euro and some 0.2% Scandinavian. For an otherwise full AJ, these percentages are not the most typical. By the way, he’s a Q1b subclade.

Any input? Advice of where I should look next to confirm or deny?

[Pine]

Interestingly, he scores tiny bits of broadly NW euro and some 0.2% Scandinavian. For an otherwise full AJ, these percentages are not the most typical. By the way, he’s a Q1b subclade.



Pretty normal.

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Pretty normal.

Isn’t it usually more tiny bits in French +German though? I don’t know, maybe you’ve seen more Jewish 23andmr results than I have

Maybe I’m wrong, but this theory works out well, in that it explains how my mom is 1/16 AJ whilst still maintaining over 50% Eastern European ancestry. It probably isn’t any more likely from her southern German side, that sides pretty well accounted for.

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A last bump for lil’ ‘ol me?

[Jana]

Did you match from Denmark helped you learn anything new ?

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Did you match from Denmark helped you learn anything new ?

Nah, they’re bein’ bashful...

I have not confirmed this guys paternal roots are from Denmark, but I think I may be right here, or pretty likely so. My mother’s maiden name is not “generically” Ashkenazi, and is a name I think would only get picked up by Jews living amongst Nordic-folk.

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Q1b sounds remigration of Goths with Hunnic admixture.

[Pine]

Isn’t it usually more tiny bits in French +German though? I don’t know, maybe you’ve seen more Jewish 23andmr results than I have

Maybe I’m wrong, but this theory works out well, in that it explains how my mom is 1/16 AJ whilst still maintaining over 50% Eastern European ancestry. It probably isn’t any more likely from her southern German side, that sides pretty well accounted for.

I've certainly seen Sephardim pop up with a little Scandinavian.

[Pine]

Q1b sounds remigration of Goths with Hunnic admixture.

All the Jews and Arabs with Q1b are Goths with Hunnic admixture. Stick to incel topics.

[Jana]

Nah, they’re bein’ bashful...

I have not confirmed this guys paternal roots are from Denmark, but I think I may be right here, or pretty likely so. My mother’s maiden name is not “generically” Ashkenazi, and is a name I think would only get picked up by Jews living amongst Nordic-folk.

Makes sense.

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The mans y clade is specifically Q-Y2780. Anything of note regarding that clade?

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The mans y clade is specifically Q-Y2780. Anything of note regarding that clade?

It's just a subclade of the Western Jewish branch Q-Y2200, which is a subclade of the wider Jewish branch Q-Y2225. A Middle Eastern origin for it is unquestionable, given that Arabians are found with Q-Y2200. Furthermore, given the Jewish origin and the basal Jordanian at Q-Y2209*, an Israelite origin is very likely.

Also, given the particular subclade he's in, it's likely that he is the result of back migration from Eastern Europe, but I need to check more data for that.

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No doubt this clade predates Turkics and Hun...possibly Indo-Iranian spread Yenesien line?

Lol...and Whatever it is worth; My Mom’s mytrueancestry haplogroup analytics does feature some frequency of Q.

[Pine]

No doubt this clade predates Turkics and Hun...possibly Indo-Iranian spread Yenesien line?

Lol...and Whatever it is worth; My Mom’s mytrueancestry haplogroup analytics does feature some frequency of Q.

Yenesien?

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Yenesien?

Yeniseian*. Pardon me.

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So...if Q entered west asia/sw Asia around when it did, what culture may we associate with it? Something related to Kelteminar?

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Final bump?

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Interesting. Would the Danish censuses shed any light on that line, or have you already checked those? I think Danish Jews were a pretty small group.