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Zeno
10-19-2019, 02:21 PM
Was searching "greek army uniform" and this appeared in an image.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/e4e363c03ea23d1cd186fe066c08f798/tumblr_mp5h4zfWUg1rmd611o1_400.jpg

NOT TYPICAL, just classify him.

Zeno
10-19-2019, 04:51 PM
Bump

Voskos
10-19-2019, 04:52 PM
You sure hes not a russian antetokoumpo? Anyway baltid+borreby.

Pansarkamrat
10-19-2019, 04:54 PM
Hallstatt can pass in Sweden perfectly

History1967
10-19-2019, 05:01 PM
Baltic / slavic influence. Sure it also has Greek origin, but it looks a little too northern for a classical Greek

Voskos
10-19-2019, 05:02 PM
Also shows clear albanian admixture.

contributor
10-19-2019, 05:30 PM
nordid, not common but not non-existent in greece...

Zeno
10-19-2019, 05:50 PM
Also shows clear albanian admixture.

"Albanian"?????... Since when are Albos blond and I don't know it?

Zeno
10-19-2019, 05:52 PM
nordid, not common but not non-existent in greece...

Obviously... Existent, yet not rare or non-existent. But absolutely not frequent.

Zeno
10-19-2019, 05:53 PM
Baltic / slavic influence. Sure it also has Greek origin, but it looks a little too northern for a classical Greek

You don't believe Greeks wuz Nords, don't you?

Zeno
10-19-2019, 05:54 PM
You sure hes not a russian antetokoumpo? Anyway baltid+borreby.

No, Evzones only take those who are of full or at least, and I repeat at least, of half Greek heritage.

Kamal900
10-19-2019, 05:55 PM
Looks really Germanic to me..no offence to the Greeks.

Zeno
10-19-2019, 05:59 PM
Looks really Germanic to me..no offence to the Greeks.

Don't worry. Listen, blonds here are very frequent, but not with this phenotype and this light hair colour (even though the best friend of my father was exactly like the OP post of mine). This particular hair colour is just too atypical.

Voskos
10-19-2019, 06:13 PM
I must admit that When i visit mainland greece i noticed a lot of blondes , it was like another country in terms of phenotypes. In places north of athens hes probably typical.

Zeno
10-19-2019, 06:37 PM
I must admit that When i visit mainland greece i noticed a lot of blondes , it was like another country in terms of phenotypes. In places north of athens hes probably typical.

Well yeah. In northern Greece it's more than 35% easily blonds. But this certain shade is rare. I mean, it's not frequent in Sweden, would it be relatively frequent here?

Zeno
10-21-2019, 12:03 PM
Bumpity

catgeorge
10-21-2019, 12:07 PM
the guy must be at least half russian..c'mon thats exotic for Greece.

Zeno
10-21-2019, 07:46 PM
the guy must be at least half russian..c'mon thats exotic for Greece.

Probably. And I said he's atypical. Blond hair and light phenotypes are not rare in general, but this certain individual has too light of a hair shade and the certain phenotype is off.

How do you classify him?

catgeorge
10-21-2019, 07:55 PM
Probably. And I said he's atypical. Blond hair and light phenotypes are not rare in general, but this certain individual has too light of a hair shade and the certain phenotype is off.

How do you classify him?

I know you said atypical - he's phenotypically a Northman a Nord. He probably has a Greek father/Russian mother. Could be 100% Greek but man even those types in North Greek natives are non existent. Its not his pigmentation but facial structure and eyes. I am sure the good man will find a good Greek girl and his offspring normalised.

KingOf
10-21-2019, 10:41 PM
A half Greek evzone (like this man)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9HsnljEXWY

KingOf
10-21-2019, 10:49 PM
This is not the same guy as in the OP. But OP is a faggot troll anyway.

As for classification, Niordoide

I know he isn't.

catgeorge
10-21-2019, 10:51 PM
A half Greek evzone (like this man)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9HsnljEXWY

He can actually pass as local, easily.

CommonSense
10-21-2019, 11:04 PM
Nordic

He looks like that nazi in Odin's avatar, so it's highly unlikely he's an ethnic Greek.

catgeorge
10-21-2019, 11:09 PM
Nordic

He looks like that nazi in Odin's avatar, so it's highly unlikely he's an ethnic Greek.

You cant serve Evzones if you're not ethnic Greek. This guy is 50/50 but still ethnic Greek if he was born and raised in Greece to a Greek parent.

Pansarkamrat
10-21-2019, 11:10 PM
Well yeah. In northern Greece it's more than 35% easily blonds. But this certain shade is rare. I mean, it's not frequent in Sweden, would it be relatively frequent here?

It is very frequent in Sweden. Also atlealst 75% of Swedes have what you Greeks calls blond hair only 25% or less have dark hair.

Zeno
10-22-2019, 02:56 AM
I'd like to know what you gain from repeatedly signing up on a forum under a fake ethnicity and identity and spreading such lies.

I find it very funny how you e-faggots sit behind a computer all day and whine like little cucks about what Sikeliot said 7.65 milliseconds ago. I have to admit, this one grotesque abomination of a fat Turk was right when he implied that some people have literally created safe space forum(s) so they don't get offended by a fucking online QUEER.

And now that Sikeliot is gone and you have the choice of leaving your mother's basement, you fuckers are mimicking him for the sake of fighting between yourselves. :icon_lol:

You went along this rant to just tell me I say lies about northern Greece? Dude I've been there and it's true. And it's common knowledge amongst Greeks too.

Latinus
10-22-2019, 03:04 AM
Hallstat Nordid.
A SS poster man.

Pater Patota
10-22-2019, 03:18 AM
True Pelasgian nigga.

Zeno
10-22-2019, 03:29 AM
Nordic

He looks like that nazi in Odin's avatar, so it's highly unlikely he's an ethnic Greek.

He's either 50/50 or more.

catgeorge
10-22-2019, 03:30 AM
Typical young Greek males

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BRTBRN/greek-army-BRTBRN.jpg

Zeno
10-22-2019, 03:31 AM
It is very frequent in Sweden. Also atlealst 75% of Swedes have what you Greeks calls blond hair only 25% or less have dark hair.

I knew it's 75-80% blonds for Swedes. And if you imply that we consider light brown to be a shade of blond, then no we don't. We only consider blond to be from dark blond to ash blond.

catgeorge
10-22-2019, 03:33 AM
I knew it's 75-80% blonds for Swedes. And if you imply that we consider light brown to be a shade of blond, then no we don't. We only consider blond to be from dark blond to ash blond.

Light brown is NOT a shade of blonde its Brown.

Zeno
10-22-2019, 03:59 AM
Typical young Greek males

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BRTBRN/greek-army-BRTBRN.jpg

I know those are the norm.

Zeno
10-22-2019, 04:06 AM
Light brown is NOT a shade of blonde its Brown.

Did you read my post? I said that to Pansakamrat that if he implies that Greeks say light brown is a shade of blonde that's he's wrong. And I say we don't consider light brown as a shade of blonde.

catgeorge
10-22-2019, 06:14 AM
Did you read my post? I said that to Pansakamrat that if he implies that Greeks say light brown is a shade of blonde that's he's wrong. And I say we don't consider light brown as a shade of blonde.

Thank god.

valentinavalley2
10-22-2019, 06:20 AM
He doesn’t look Slavic at all,
Lol, he looks Swedish, Nordic


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catgeorge
10-22-2019, 07:40 AM
He doesn’t look Slavic at all,
Lol, he looks Swedish, Nordic


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Those damn tourists cant help themselves.

KingOf
10-22-2019, 01:19 PM
You went along this rant to just tell me I say lies about northern Greece? Dude I've been there and it's true. And it's common knowledge amongst Greeks too.

Where exactly did you visit?

Vojnik
10-22-2019, 01:26 PM
Light but you can still see the Balkan in there.

Hulu
10-22-2019, 02:11 PM
Light but you can still see the Balkan in there.

This. Lol at the "swedish" guy saying this is typical for Sweden. Other than pigmentation his features are off.

Zeno
10-22-2019, 02:21 PM
You don't believe Greeks wuz Nords, don't you?


Where exactly did you visit?

Western Macedonia. And going to visit Thessaloniki in December.

KingOf
10-22-2019, 02:28 PM
Western Macedonia. And going to visit Thessaloniki in December.

You trolling dude.
35% blonde without counting light brown in North Greece?
So light brown is gonna be more than 35% because it obviously is more common than any blonde shade combined.
I hope you take better notes in December.

Zeno
10-22-2019, 03:11 PM
You trolling dude.
35% blonde without counting light brown in North Greece?
So light brown is gonna be more than 35% because it obviously is more common than any blonde shade combined.
I hope you take better notes in December.

Since when is light brown blonde hair? And yes, I noted right. A third for sure was blonde. In Thessaloniki is going to be less because of Pontic Greeks.

KingOf
10-22-2019, 03:26 PM
Since when is light brown blonde hair? And yes, I noted right. A third for sure was blonde. In Thessaloniki is going to be less because of Pontic Greeks.

Western Macedonia has many Pontics especially Ptolemaida/Kozani

Sokoli
10-22-2019, 03:53 PM
"Albanian"?????... Since when are Albos blond and I don't know it?

There are Albanian speakers like him. We used them in movies to play Russian personages.

chociprasa
10-22-2019, 03:55 PM
Corded.

Zeno
10-22-2019, 04:44 PM
Western Macedonia has many Pontics especially Ptolemaida/Kozani


Very little in comparison to Thessaloniki.

Dorian
10-22-2019, 05:54 PM
Very little in comparison to Thessaloniki.

Majority of balkans reach 10% at most while increasing to 20 as you go up to central Europe ,get over it already.

Zeno
10-22-2019, 06:22 PM
Majority of balkans reach 10% at most while increasing to 20 as you go up to central Europe ,get over it already.

Light blond hair that is.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
10-22-2019, 06:30 PM
Evzone is something similar to a foreign legion?

Dorian
10-22-2019, 06:34 PM
Light blond hair that is.

Man gtfo with that light medium retardism,the majority of "light-ISH" hair in balkans is just lighter brown ,so simple.Light blond would be even lower ,give yourself some slaps to get your brain working.

Zeno
10-22-2019, 07:21 PM
Man gtfo with that light medium retardism,the majority of "light-ISH" hair in balkans is just lighter brown ,so simple.Light blond would be even lower ,give yourself some slaps to get your brain working.

"GtFo WiTh yOuR dEfiNiTiONs aNd SHIIIIEEET!"
Nope. I had cited statistical data in the "Cite Greek blonds" thread, which verified my claims. Do you have any? If you do, please don't hesitate, AND DO IT INSTEAD OF SHOUTING LIKE AN ΟΎΓΚΑΝΟΣ.

Dorian
10-22-2019, 08:02 PM
"GtFo WiTh yOuR dEfiNiTiONs aNd SHIIIIEEET!"
Nope. I had cited statistical data in the "Cite Greek blonds" thread, which verified my claims. Do you have any? If you do, please don't hesitate, AND DO IT INSTEAD OF SHOUTING LIKE AN ΟΎΓΚΑΝΟΣ.

None cares idiot ,whatever "scientists" conduct such "work" are not less prone to wrong methods or bias so appealing to "science" and "muh studies" won't make you more valid,we have eyes and we can see...get over your complex ,you look the complete opposite of the people that you worship and it's disgustingly pathetic.

catgeorge
10-22-2019, 08:13 PM
Evzone is something similar to a foreign legion?

Nope - Evzones are a disbanded special forces unit and to enter had to meet certain strict criterias. Now they are simply Presidential Guards.

http://www.greece-is.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/IMG_3703.jpg

catgeorge
10-22-2019, 08:16 PM
You trolling dude.
35% blonde without counting light brown in North Greece?
So light brown is gonna be more than 35% because it obviously is more common than any blonde shade combined.
I hope you take better notes in December.


Let him go, he's going to be very disappointed.

Daos777
10-22-2019, 08:24 PM
Nope - Evzones are a disbanded special forces unit and to enter had to meet certain strict criterias. Now they are simply Presidential Guards.

http://www.greece-is.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/IMG_3703.jpg

The pic is missing a brazzers logo

Renekton
10-22-2019, 08:38 PM
He doesn't look Greek....
Greeks are swarthy like Italians and Spaniards

catgeorge
10-22-2019, 08:40 PM
https://www.pappaspost.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Evzone1.jpg

http://blueskytv.gr/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/15a2948acd53c8.jpg

https://olympiada.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/episkepsi_erdogan_tsolias3.jpg

catgeorge
10-22-2019, 08:41 PM
He doesn't look Greek....
Greeks are swarthy like Italians and Spaniards

Thats nice honey - Aristotle said men with white skin are genetically women. Dance for me ladyboy.

Renekton
10-22-2019, 08:42 PM
https://www.pappaspost.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Evzone1.jpg

http://blueskytv.gr/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/15a2948acd53c8.jpg

https://olympiada.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/episkepsi_erdogan_tsolias3.jpg

Erdogan pass as Greek imo.

catgeorge
10-22-2019, 08:44 PM
Erdogan pass as Greek imo.

Fantastic, but you're still a woman.

Dorian
10-22-2019, 08:46 PM
Thats nice honey - Aristotle said men with white skin are genetically women. Dance for me ladyboy.

shqiptari sock ,he just clicked on my prof and thumbed down this :laugh:


hulu says only gypsies play clarinet in albania,is this true? the guy looks ultra-albo either way ,nothing gypsy...

catgeorge
10-22-2019, 08:48 PM
shqiptari sock ,he just clicked on my prof and thumbed down this :laugh:

Should have known Shiptars afraid to declare themselves - cowards .

Renekton
10-22-2019, 08:49 PM
Thats nice honey - Aristotle said men with white skin are genetically women. Dance for me ladyboy.

Dude why you so angry.... It's the truth...
Here in Germany we can't distinguish a Greek to a Turk.....

catgeorge
10-22-2019, 08:52 PM
Dude why you so angry.... It's the truth...
Here in Germany we can't distinguish a Greek to a Turk.....

Well what I said is the truth as well - you're a coward like a woman.

Renekton
10-22-2019, 08:55 PM
Well what I said is the truth as well - you're a coward like a woman.

I can beat you easily... Kiddo

Dorian
10-22-2019, 09:00 PM
I can beat you easily... Kiddo

We doubt that :laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V03KEYtAekg

catgeorge
10-22-2019, 09:03 PM
I can beat you easily... Kiddo

okay.

catgeorge
10-22-2019, 09:23 PM
Evzones patrolling the streets in 1925

http://www.excusemeareyougreek.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/20180907_084622-956x717.jpg

Vojnik
10-23-2019, 02:43 AM
Evzone is something similar to a foreign legion?

I’d say something like the Queens guard at Buckingham palace or the Popes Swiss Guards.

They are the national guard. Most countries have them for ceremonial purposes.

Zeno
10-23-2019, 08:23 AM
None cares idiot ,whatever "scientists" conduct such "work" are not less prone to wrong methods or bias so appealing to "science" and "muh studies" won't make you more valid,we have eyes and we can see...get over your complex ,you look the complete opposite of the people that you worship and it's disgustingly pathetic.

>I don't care about what science proved
>Instead, trust muh eyes
I thought you were the one telling me to back up my claims. And I did.

Zeno
10-23-2019, 08:24 AM
Let him go, he's going to be very disappointed.

Why that is? I have reinforced my claims.

catgeorge
10-23-2019, 08:36 AM
Why that is? I have reinforced my claims.

Oh please visit. Your dreams will be shattered though, when you realise Makedonia is not a Nordic haven for Greeks.

This is all you're going to see.

https://scontent.fmel8-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/29355075_2327476717478599_4030986930545099712_o.jp g?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQnrKZynFYNIQrdTqEF5_8ItRB9wRpjloUo2_zhkwTH AhapaOB0lWzudSl7JcyyfcBE&_nc_ht=scontent.fmel8-1.fna&oh=869a84e29dfe960d9662701fc5820ac0&oe=5E2B4048

Zeno
10-23-2019, 09:17 AM
Oh please visit. Your dreams will be shattered though, when you realise Makedonia is not a Nordic haven for Greeks.

This is all you're going to see.

https://scontent.fmel8-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/29355075_2327476717478599_4030986930545099712_o.jp g?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQnrKZynFYNIQrdTqEF5_8ItRB9wRpjloUo2_zhkwTH AhapaOB0lWzudSl7JcyyfcBE&_nc_ht=scontent.fmel8-1.fna&oh=869a84e29dfe960d9662701fc5820ac0&oe=5E2B4048

Ok.

Dorian
10-23-2019, 02:12 PM
>I don't care about what science proved
>Instead, trust muh eyes
I thought you were the one telling me to back up my claims. And I did.

>I care about "science"
>If I see something different ,I should get a new pair of eyes then or delude my dumb brain to confirm science because I'm unable to think for myself.

PARTA! (http://www.thegeneralist.org/2017/logical-fallacy-appeal-to-science-4316)


I tried to find that thread of yours and couldn't find it and it's a really boring subject to look further into anyways ,sample size ,kinds of samples(children for example) ,ideological leanings of the "scientists" and their own cognitive bias&the different taxonomies each uses skew results.
Here's a good idea ,before you visit the north buy a gopro camera or some accessory with a mini one attached,do your tourism ,make up and tell us of your "percentages" and theories and then upload for us to see what you saw ,put your scientific spirit into work.

Zeno
10-23-2019, 03:50 PM
>I care about "science"
>If I see something different ,I should get a new pair of eyes then or delude my dumb brain to confirm science because I'm unable to think for myself.

PARTA! (http://www.thegeneralist.org/2017/logical-fallacy-appeal-to-science-4316)


I tried to find that thread of yours and couldn't find it and it's a really boring subject to look further into anyways ,sample size ,kinds of samples(children for example) ,ideological leanings of the "scientists" and their own cognitive bias&the different taxonomies each uses skew results.
Here's a good idea ,before you visit the north buy a gopro camera or some accessory with a mini one attached,do your tourism ,make up and tell us of your "percentages" and theories and then upload for us to see what you saw ,put your scientific spirit into work.

It's the "Post Blonde Greeks" thread. And it wasn't only children. It was also one study of 1767 soldiers, one study of 4,800 Cretans (both minors and adults), one study in Lakonia with 3,000 people examined etc. And it's not only science. I go out a lot, despite my studies. And I've asked my friends and known ones who have nothing to do with anthropological matters. They've all told me that same number. Characteristically, they say "1/3 must be blonds with the other 2/3 being the classic μελαχροινός Greek". And they are not crazy. They have empirical experience.

catgeorge
10-23-2019, 04:09 PM
^ They exist but won't see it in major cities. North Greeks which is a proper term now I guess is heavily mixed with Anatolians but dopioi do exist as well you just have to know which these towns/villages are. Dopioi have light types and 1/3 although sounds on the high side is roughly correct

Renekton
10-23-2019, 05:51 PM
It's the "Post Blonde Greeks" thread. And it wasn't only children. It was also one study of 1767 soldiers, one study of 4,800 Cretans (both minors and adults), one study in Lakonia with 3,000 people examined etc. And it's not only science. I go out a lot, despite my studies. And I've asked my friends and known ones who have nothing to do with anthropological matters. They've all told me that same number. Characteristically, they say "1/3 must be blonds with the other 2/3 being the classic μελαχροινός Greek". And they are not crazy. They have empirical experience.

+1

Zeno
10-23-2019, 05:51 PM
^ They exist but won't see it in major cities. North Greeks which is a proper term now I guess is heavily mixed with Anatolians but dopioi do exist as well you just have to know which these towns/villages are. Dopioi have light types and 1/3 although sounds on the high side is roughly correct

Well, my third cousins, both girls, have their mum hailing ancestry from Kozani, a small village in the prefecture. They're both light eyed, like their both parents, but not blond, but their mother is. They've told me that many, many people there are light-haired and light-eyed. Both from the locals and the Pontic Greeks (even though Pontics make 1/3 of Macedonia barely).

Rgvgjhvv
10-23-2019, 06:20 PM
Well, my third cousins, both girls, have their mum hailing ancestry from Kozani, a small village in the prefecture. They're both light eyed, like their both parents, but not blond, but their mother is. They've told me that many, many people there are light-haired and light-eyed. Both from the locals and the Pontic Greeks (even though Pontics make 1/3 of Macedonia barely).

That is what we call "anecdotal evidence".

Rgvgjhvv
10-23-2019, 06:21 PM
Well, my third cousins, both girls, have their mum hailing ancestry from Kozani, a small village in the prefecture. They're both light eyed, like their both parents, but not blond, but their mother is. They've told me that many, many people there are light-haired and light-eyed. Both from the locals and the Pontic Greeks (even though Pontics make 1/3 of Macedonia barely).

That is what we call "anecdotal evidence".

Dorian
10-23-2019, 06:27 PM
It's the "Post Blonde Greeks" thread. And it wasn't only children. It was also one study of 1767 soldiers, one study of 4,800 Cretans (both minors and adults), one study in Lakonia with 3,000 people examined etc. And it's not only science. I go out a lot, despite my studies. And I've asked my friends and known ones who have nothing to do with anthropological matters. They've all told me that same number. Characteristically, they say "1/3 must be blonds with the other 2/3 being the classic μελαχροινός Greek". And they are not crazy. They have empirical experience.

I doubt you or your friends use these shade charts to classify,we've already said that what's perceived as "xanthos" here has different meaning,1/3 is absurd no matter If local or not when even south slavs can't be that much,as for the other thread just took a quick look and it seems others have refuted you.

Zeno
10-23-2019, 07:04 PM
I doubt you or your friends use these shade charts to classify,we've already said that what's perceived as "xanthos" here has different meaning,1/3 is absurd no matter If local or not when even south slavs can't be that much,as for the other thread just took a quick look and it seems others have refuted you.

When we say blonde, we don't include light brown. We call light brown "καστανό". Γιατί το ανοιχτό καστανό είναι καστανό. Όταν λέμε ξανθό, εννοούμε από σκούρο ξανθό έως ανοιχτό ξανθό. Τίποτε άλλο.

As for the refutation, the only one who tried to debate me with statistics also was Dawnbringer. But even his statistics from Greek schoolchildren in Bulgaria (that's the study he used to debate me) shows that 29% or 35% (I don't remember exactly) of Greek schoolchildren are light-haired.

Zeno
10-23-2019, 07:09 PM
That is what we call "anecdotal evidence".

Well, you don't want scientific evidence because "muh subjectivity of the anthropologists". Dorian asked for "empirical evidence" aka everyday experience and opinions of mine and the others in my personal environment. So, I did. And this empirical evidence matches the scientific findings. But now, you don't approve that still?

I think you're just trying to find a method which fits your argumentation. This is what my empirical (to you "anecdotal") and scientific evidence has showed to me. From then on, I can't say anything more.

Samnium
10-23-2019, 07:16 PM
I'm skeptical about that percentage of blondes, it's on par with Western Countries like France, parts of UK or the most northern of S.Balkan cluster (like Croatia)... Unless that percentage could be caused by genetic isolation (which in the case of Greece is unlikely at a country scale), it's impossible, simply not the genes for that.

KingOf
10-23-2019, 07:23 PM
Random students from Giannitsa...
I saw 4 who could qualify for blondes... so less than 1%.
Go 1080p for better view.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6dNVzzKc6U

Rgvgjhvv
10-23-2019, 07:31 PM
Well, you don't want scientific evidence because "muh subjectivity of the anthropologists". Dorian asked for "empirical evidence" aka everyday experience and opinions of mine and the others in my personal environment. So, I did. And this empirical evidence matches the scientific findings. But now, you don't approve that still?

I think you're just trying to find a method which fits your argumentation. This is what my empirical (to you "anecdotal") and scientific evidence has showed to me. From then on, I can't say anything more.

Muh Muh Muh My Sharona!

Dorian
10-23-2019, 07:33 PM
When we say blonde, we don't include light brown. We call light brown "καστανό". Γιατί το ανοιχτό καστανό είναι καστανό. Όταν λέμε ξανθό, εννοούμε από σκούρο ξανθό έως ανοιχτό ξανθό. Τίποτε άλλο.

As for the refutation, the only one who tried to debate me with statistics also was Dawnbringer. But even his statistics from Greek schoolchildren in Bulgaria (that's the study he used to debate me) shows that 29% or 35% (I don't remember exactly) of Greek schoolchildren are light-haired.

Not everyone uses your own way ,most have a broader definition of "xanthos" ,I've been called such myself and I don't consider me one.Most children If not born with jet-black hair will have some degree of blondness ,it's normal ,the ones who remain so in adult life can't be more 1-5% here.
Forget percentages and regions ,in the big picture there can't be 1 or 2(10-20%)millions of blondes here ,it's that simple=You can't fill a Thessaloniki with them ,the only tribes that could have brought your percentages in adults are Germanics neither Greeks nor Slavs.

Samnium
10-23-2019, 07:39 PM
Not everyone uses your own way ,most have a broader definition of "xanthos" ,I've been called such myself and I don't consider me one.Most children If not born with jet-black hair will have some degree of blondness ,it's normal ,the ones who remain so in adult life can't be more 1-5% here.
Forget percentages and regions ,in the big picture there can't be 1 or 2(10-20%)millions of blondes here ,it's that simple=You can't fill a Thessaloniki with them ,the only tribes that could have brought your percentages in adults are Germanics neither Greeks nor Slavs.

Not to mention that Greeks are in a parallel branch facing Central Italians (same northern "latitude") that aren't that blondes, if we want to talk about genes.

Dorian
10-23-2019, 07:44 PM
Not to mention that Greeks are in a parallel branch facing Central Italians (same northern "latitude") that aren't that blondes, if we want to talk about genes.

That seems irrelevant for me though,it's like you are saying the genes won't survive because of latitude?For me the genes don't survive because they are assimilated by a darker genetic pool resulting in the various shades.

Samnium
10-23-2019, 07:46 PM
That seems irrelevant for me though,it's like you are saying the genes won't survive because of latitude?For me the genes don't survive because they are assimilated by a darker genetic pool resulting in the various shades.

No I'm saying that Central Italians with the same amount of "Steppe" ancestry don't have such high percentages.

Dorian
10-23-2019, 07:57 PM
No I'm saying that Italian with the same level of "Steppe" ancestry don't have such percentages.

Oh ok ,makes sense...though I think "steppe" doesn't mean much when it comes to South populations ,it only indicates that a migration happened which brought light alleles ,If one region scores more than another it doesn't mean the first is going to be much lighter suddenly....it's well known now that autosomal doesn't equal phenotype.

Samnium
10-23-2019, 07:59 PM
Oh ok ,makes sense...though I think "steppe" doesn't mean much when it comes to South populations ,it only indicates that a migration happened which brought light alleles ,If one region scores more than another it doesn't mean the first is going to be much lighter suddenly....it's well known now that autosomal doesn't equal phenotype.

Yep but there is generally a strong correlation (it's not perfect there are some counter-examples) between Northern genes and blondism. That's why the number of 30% is very unlikely, same number as Central France or even parts of Britanny.

Zeno
10-24-2019, 04:34 AM
Random students from Giannitsa...
I saw 4 who could qualify for blondes... so less than 1%.
Go 1080p for better view.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6dNVzzKc6U

I saw more than 4. Plus, why are there so many gypsies?

Zeno
10-24-2019, 04:37 AM
Not everyone uses your own way ,most have a broader definition of "xanthos" ,I've been called such myself and I don't consider me one.Most children If not born with jet-black hair will have some degree of blondness ,it's normal ,the ones who remain so in adult life can't be more 1-5% here.
Forget percentages and regions ,in the big picture there can't be 1 or 2(10-20%)millions of blondes here ,it's that simple=You can't fill a Thessaloniki with them ,the only tribes that could have brought your percentages in adults are Germanics neither Greeks nor Slavs.

Ok whatever you say. That's what I experience and seen in studies.

Zeno
10-24-2019, 04:43 AM
Not everyone uses your own way ,most have a broader definition of "xanthos" ,I've been called such myself and I don't consider me one.Most children If not born with jet-black hair will have some degree of blondness ,it's normal ,the ones who remain so in adult life can't be more 1-5% here.
Forget percentages and regions ,in the big picture there can't be 1 or 2(10-20%)millions of blondes here ,it's that simple=You can't fill a Thessaloniki with them ,the only tribes that could have brought your percentages in adults are Germanics neither Greeks nor Slavs.

Not everyone, but almost everyone. Plus, what's your hair colour? Can you post a pic?

And for the big picture, it's certainly 1/3.

KingOf
10-24-2019, 12:02 PM
I saw more than 4. Plus, why are there so many gypsies?

At this point i don't believe you even live in Greece dude...

Dorian
10-24-2019, 01:06 PM
Not everyone, but almost everyone. Plus, what's your hair colour? Can you post a pic?

And for the big picture, it's certainly 1/3.

..

Zeno
10-24-2019, 02:10 PM
At this point i don't believe you even live in Greece dude...

I live in the eastern suburbs of Athens, where 96% of the 45,000 inhabitants are Greeks. Thank you for your concerns. It's not my fault I have observed this. I literally observe the people around me, especially after I discovered anthropology three years ago. And most people around me have the same beliefs. The minimum number I've heard about blondism in Greece from the people I've asked is 20%. Not my fault.

The Lawspeaker
10-30-2019, 01:11 AM
Dude why you so angry.... It's the truth...
Here in Germany we can't distinguish a Greek to a Turk.....

You're not German.

aherne
10-30-2019, 06:20 AM
He looks Scandinavian, thus extremely atypical. There are plenty of blond greeks, but they generally look Corded/"Indo-European" instead of Nordo-Faelid...

catgeorge
10-30-2019, 07:34 AM
I miss the rawness of Golden Dawn. He is welcome to sing it with us anytime.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5umvqiHVFg&t=45s

Zeno
10-30-2019, 12:12 PM
I miss the rawness of Golden Dawn. He is welcome to sing it with us anytime.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5umvqiHVFg&t=45s

Don't worry fren. Now that Koulis officially preaches μπόλιασμα, it'll come back...

Zeno
10-30-2019, 12:13 PM
He looks Scandinavian, thus extremely atypical. There are plenty of blond greeks, but they generally look Corded/"Indo-European" instead of Nordo-Faelid...

This. Exactly this. I've been telling the same thing. Greeks are blond in quite significant proportions. But his phenotype is atypical.

aherne
10-30-2019, 08:01 PM
But his phenotype is not atypical.

I think you wanted to say his phenotype IS atypical. I've been to greece many times and never saw someone looking remotely similar (except Germanic tourists).

Zeno
10-30-2019, 08:15 PM
I think you wanted to say his phenotype IS atypical. I've been to greece many times and never saw someone looking remotely similar (except Germanic tourists).

Yes you're right. I added a "not" in front of atypical by mistake. This phenotype IS atypical indeed.

contributor
10-30-2019, 09:26 PM
you're dissing this guy's looks too much

many guys with that facial structure in central Greece and Thessaly. They just happen to be more pigmented.

catgeorge
10-30-2019, 09:46 PM
you're dissing this guy's looks too much

many guys with that facial structure in central Greece and Thessaly. They just happen to be more pigmented.

He is half Greek so would have similarities with all Greeks but he is atypical for the atypicals. This is typical for Thessaly

https://storage.googleapis.com/sl-stateless/2019/02/4e8ed5e5-%CE%9D%CE%95%CE%9F%CE%99.jpg

contributor
10-30-2019, 09:49 PM
He is half Greek so would have similarities with all Greeks but he is atypical for the atypicals. This is typical for Thessaly

https://storage.googleapis.com/sl-stateless/2019/02/4e8ed5e5-%CE%9D%CE%95%CE%9F%CE%99.jpg

are u sure?

the lighter guys resemble him quite a bit, the keeper could be a relative of his.

catgeorge
10-30-2019, 09:52 PM
are u sure?

the lighter guys resemble him quite a bit, the keeper could be a relative of his.

I'm not 100% sure but even a light Greek can be spotted as Greek by outsiders.

Zeno
10-30-2019, 09:58 PM
He is half Greek so would have similarities with all Greeks but he is atypical for the atypicals. This is typical for Thessaly

https://storage.googleapis.com/sl-stateless/2019/02/4e8ed5e5-%CE%9D%CE%95%CE%9F%CE%99.jpg

He might be full Greek. We don't know for sure.

Samnium
10-30-2019, 10:07 PM
He might be full Greek. We don't know for sure.

He might be but it's rather strange that he hasn't any "med" feature even minimal...

catgeorge
10-30-2019, 10:15 PM
He might be but it's rather strange that he hasn't any "med" feature even minimal...

Doesnt have to be Med but general Old Balkanian features like Pontid, Alpine, Dinarid, CM obviously Med is the dominant phenotype in Greece

Samnium
10-30-2019, 10:20 PM
Doesnt have to be Med but general Old Balkanian features like Pontid, Alpine, Dinarid, CM obviously Med is the dominant phenotype in Greece

Yep obvious.

Zeno
10-31-2019, 12:41 PM
He might be but it's rather strange that he hasn't any "med" feature even minimal...

Well, the Nordid element here is 10-15%. But the pure Nordid element is at 5-8%. He probably belongs in that portion of the population. But the amount of light hair in general is way more than 15%, which means that blonds here are mostly not Nordid.

Norb
10-31-2019, 05:25 PM
Nordic

He looks like that nazi in Odin's avatar, so it's highly unlikely he's an ethnic Greek.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?205536-Max-Hansen-German-Soldier

Norb
10-31-2019, 05:29 PM
He looks Scandinavian, thus extremely atypical. There are plenty of blond greeks, but they generally look Corded/"Indo-European" instead of Nordo-Faelid...

Do you think he has MED? His eyes are not blue. Agree with other posts, there is something 'off' about his look..

Zeno
10-31-2019, 08:30 PM
Do you think he has MED? His eyes are not blue. Agree with other posts, there is something 'off' about his look..

You mean "off" from the Nordid phenotype? It doesn't look like it from this picture.

Norb
11-01-2019, 06:43 AM
You mean "off" from the Nordid phenotype? It doesn't look like it from this picture.
He has an 'off' look in general and for a supposedly Nordid also. There's more than meets the eye with him

catgeorge
11-01-2019, 07:06 AM
He has an 'off' look in general and for a supposedly Nordid also. There's more than meets the eye with him

You are right - it is forbidden to serve the Greek Evzones if you're not ethnic Greek

Zeno
11-01-2019, 12:30 PM
He has an 'off' look in general and for a supposedly Nordid also. There's more than meets the eye with him

You're saying he looks somehow Greek?

aherne
11-02-2019, 10:41 AM
are u sure?

the lighter guys resemble him quite a bit, the keeper could be a relative of his.
The keeper looks almost pure Corded. Hence, a generic Aryan / "Indo-European" appearance... You can find people of similar appearance all over Europe (from Ireland to Russia).

There is some resemblance, indeed, but all of these guys are compatible with Greek looks whereas OP guy is not (he has elements foreign to Greece: Faelid)

Zeno
11-02-2019, 11:38 AM
The keeper looks almost pure Corded. Hence, a generic Aryan / "Indo-European" appearance... You can find people of similar appearance all over Europe (from Ireland to Russia).

There is some resemblance, indeed, but all of these guys are compatible with Greek looks whereas OP guy is not (he has elements foreign to Greece: Faelid)

This. Many Corded types can be compatible to a degree with Greek looks. But this certain picture I posted as the OP, is not typical amongst our light types.