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Henkeboj
10-22-2019, 04:29 AM
would you consider him for white?

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Bakha
10-22-2019, 04:33 AM
No

Samnium
10-22-2019, 04:43 AM
In most of the pictures he is totally "off".

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Evrim
10-22-2019, 04:55 AM
Define white, a Norwegian, a Sicilian, a Russian are so different that I think whiteness is a social construct.
He looks Southern European or West Asian generally.

Samnium
10-22-2019, 05:18 AM
Define white, a Norwegian, a Sicilian, a Russian are so different that I think whiteness is a social construct.
He looks Southern European or West Asian generally.Could pass a Sicilian I agree, I see some traits that my sicilian uncle has. But I think it's one of the few regions where he can pass.

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lonewolfcypriot
10-22-2019, 05:29 AM
yes

Evrim
10-22-2019, 05:34 AM
Could pass a Sicilian I agree, I see some traits that my sicilian uncle has. But I think it's one of the few regions where he can pass.

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I think whites are so divergent that, it looks absurd to call from Lisbon to Vladivostok, Parma to Oslo all white. I have seen a Central French guy looking like him especially eyebrows. Caucasian genes are like mulatto genes. Two mainly Alpine French can have a Hallstatt Nordid children or two Nordics can have a borreby child who was genetically coded many generations ago by a borreby grandfather or mother.

Daos777
10-22-2019, 05:35 AM
In America he would be called a cracker so yes. That’s actually the new definition of what’s white.

Samnium
10-22-2019, 05:37 AM
I think whites are so divergent that, it looks absurd to call from Lisbon to Vladivostok, Parma to Oslo all white. I have seen a Central French guy looking like him especially eyebrows. Caucasian genes are like mulatto genes. Two mainly Alpine French can have a Hallstatt Nordid children or two Nordics can have a borreby child who was genetically coded many generations ago by a borreby grandfather or mother.There are features and phenotypes that simply don't exist in european autochtonous populations.

But I agree that you can look very similar to your grandfather or great-grandfather and not like your mother for example.
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Zroota
10-22-2019, 06:04 AM
Looks South Slavic.

So yes.

Dna8
10-22-2019, 06:20 AM
Yes I would.

Evrim
10-22-2019, 06:29 AM
There are features and phenotypes that simply don't exist in european autochtonous populations.

But I agree that you can look very similar to your grandfather or great-grandfather and not like your mother for example.
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I think whiteness is a social construct somehow. A Muslim, Bosnian with robust Nordic phenotype can be called sand nigger by stormfronters or WASPs, meanwhile a swarthy Serbian or Sicilian could be considered white. I think you got the gist. From biological stance, there is no white, but Caucasoid.

catgeorge
10-22-2019, 06:52 AM
If he is native to Europe then he is European.

Tigranes
10-22-2019, 07:57 AM
Not Caucasian

Zroota
10-22-2019, 10:15 AM
Not Caucasian
What do you mean? Because he actually passes as someone from the Caucasus (namely Georgian).

Tigranes
10-22-2019, 10:35 AM
What do you mean? Because he actually passes as someone from the Caucasus (namely Georgian).

I mean the Caucasian/Caucasoid, not Kavkaz.

21993
10-22-2019, 10:42 AM
He looks Balkan IMO so I would say yes. However, in USA, the might be mistaken for Latin American because most white Americans are descendants or Brits and Germans, who look a bit different from average Balkan person.

Blondie
10-22-2019, 10:44 AM
hmm maybe

nittionia
10-22-2019, 10:48 AM
I have never seen eyebrows like that


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Aspirin
10-22-2019, 11:18 AM
Mongoloid admixture, not fully white.

Dna8
10-22-2019, 08:43 PM
I have never seen eyebrows like that


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One lunch break in high school, another student quipped at my expense, "Bro, you have a mean* unibrow."

It was the first time in my life that I had been made formally aware of my severe eyebrow hair. The observation had been made playfully, but still I had felt embarrassed and shamed.

Like some dog having its nose rubbed in carpet it had urinated upon...

*Colloquial NZ Spectrum English: in this instance, "mean" is an adjective suggesting excellence.

Adamastor
10-22-2019, 08:50 PM
I think whiteness is a social construct somehow. A Muslim, Bosnian with robust Nordic phenotype can be called sand nigger by stormfronters or WASPs, meanwhile a swarthy Serbian or Sicilian could be considered white. I think you got the gist. From biological stance, there is no white, but Caucasoid.

And even races like ''Caucasoid'' and ''Mongoloid'' are becoming more and more obsolete with genetics. Old World human groups are all mixes between different types of archaic populations that weren't necessarily related.

Evrim
10-22-2019, 10:42 PM
And even races like ''Caucasoid'' and ''Mongoloid'' are becoming more and more obsolete with genetics. Old World human groups are all mixes between different types of archaic populations that weren't necessarily related.

I think it can't be. Bone density is averagely very different among Caucasians and Asians.
But, I believe Caucasoid race has smth with Australoids. All 1/4 black or asian 3/4 white people look mixed, but 1/4 Australoid 3/4 whites look white totally. This means they must be close to Caucasians somehow. Look at Dravidian man supposedly having Australoid admixture highly. He looks more Caucasoid boned than a Northern Indian guy.
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Indus/group_2.jpg

Adamastor
10-22-2019, 10:45 PM
I think it can't be. Bone density is averagely very different among Caucasians and Asians.
But, I believe Caucasoid race has smth with Australoids. All 1/4 black or asian 3/4 white people look mixed, but 1/4 Australoid 3/4 whites look white totally. This means they must be close to Caucasians somehow. Look at Dravidian man supposedly having Australoid admixture highly. He looks more Caucasoid boned than a Northern Indian guy.
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Images_Indus/group_2.jpg

These subjective perceptions about phenotypes aren't much scientific to begin with. I'm talking about genetics, not about pseudo-science.

Genetically a Northern European is closer to an Amerindian than to an ''Australoid''. Some Australoids just happen to have convergent features with some Caucasoids.

Tooting Carmen
10-22-2019, 10:47 PM
Borderline.

Samnium
10-22-2019, 10:49 PM
These subjective perceptions about phenotypes aren't much scientific to begin with. I'm talking about genetics, not about pseudo-science.

Genetically a Northern European is closer to an Amerindian than to an ''Australoid''. Some Australoids just happen to have convergent features with some Caucasoids.Also I can claim than even SSA have more in common with us about facial traits than Australoids could never have.

Australoids look alien, really, they are I think a different race.

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Kyp
10-22-2019, 11:06 PM
Also I can claim than even SSA have more in common with us about facial traits than Australoids could never have.

Australoids look alien, really, they are I think a different race.

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Could be just because of less media exposure of Australoids so their features seem more alien to us because we're not familiar with them

Evrim
10-22-2019, 11:06 PM
Also I can claim than even SSA have more in common with us about facial traits than Australoids could never have.

Australoids look alien, really, they are I think a different race.

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Which SSA, Western SSA is totally alien too. Some non Caucasoid SSA have Caucasoid nose, facial profile for example from Cameroon.

Ford
10-22-2019, 11:07 PM
Only if he's Anglo or North Caucasian.