E-BY7450

[Gallop]

E-BY7450

BIG Y 700

This is my result.

For now there are no matches or origin; although contributing in the future to research and perhaps in the near future years will be news.

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1 From the Netherlands but 0 in coincidences and origins

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Interesting. Seems that the oldest sample avaible is to be found in the Funnelbeaker culture.

https://i.postimg.cc/7h5bR6Zs/Opera-Instant-neo-2019-10-23-144247-phylogeographer-com.png

[Artek]

You should consider uploading it to YFull.com, here is an blog entry on that site and an instruction on how to upload: https://ultimatefamilyhistorians.blogspot.com/2019/10/advantages-of-submitting-to-yfull.html

That branch at YFull: https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/

The Dutch guy is active on Anthrogenica (but I don't remember his nickname), he rumoured that his line might have been introduced by Spaniards.

[Gallop]

You should consider uploading it to YFull.com, here is an blog entry on that site and an instruction on how to upload: https://ultimatefamilyhistorians.blogspot.com/2019/10/advantages-of-submitting-to-yfull.html

That branch at YFull: https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/

The Dutch guy is active on Anthrogenica (but I don't remember his nickname), he rumoured that his line might have been introduced by Spaniards.


If I just loaded it on Yfull.com, I am waiting for an answer. I kept them up to date with the results.

[Gallop]

Interesting. Seems that the oldest sample avaible is to be found in the Funnelbeaker culture.

https://i.postimg.cc/7h5bR6Zs/Opera-Instant-neo-2019-10-23-144247-phylogeographer-com.png

Interesting. I have results for that area whit cm Bell Beacker Poland, Unetice Bohemia, Hallstat celtic... Tonight I pass the maps.

[Pine]

Interesting. Seems that the oldest sample avaible is to be found in the Funnelbeaker culture.

https://i.postimg.cc/7h5bR6Zs/Opera-Instant-neo-2019-10-23-144247-phylogeographer-com.png

The map is like that because almost everyone with it is Jewish, and particularly Ashkenazi.

[Gallop]

My match for DNA and ancestral origins. The same ones I had before making the Big Y. Seeing the list and following your feminine intuition where you think the theme of my BY7450 can go ...

Any approach while I receive the Yfull?

E-V22
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BigY 700
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[Pine]

My match for DNA and ancestral origins. The same ones I had before making the Big Y. Seeing the list and following your feminine intuition where you think the theme of my BY7450 can go ...

Any approach while I receive the Yfull?

E-V22
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qw_yQCZg3tQ/XbFda3x6AtI/AAAAAAAABKs/NyPJMFwUUP0DluIG8VYHyc8xjmnDPx4yQCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/YDNAaNCESTRY.JPEG

BigY 700
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ARnmuQhOefk/XbFaGjQtUnI/AAAAAAAABKg/wcfiMqPiNDgFti_22Ut1HFqGpMDpk1PdgCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/BIGYV22MISUCURSALm%25C3%25A1sgrandeSUCURSAL.JPEG

There aren't many options. You're either descended from a Sephardi, Arab, or a very early split. Most (if not all) of the European countries on there are Ashkenazim.

[Gallop]

^^

It may be that it is open to all possibilities, to what Yfull said. I understand when it may be Arabic or Jewish but about an early age when would we be talking?

[Pine]

^^

It may be that it is open to all possibilities, to what Yfull said. I understand when it may be Arabic or Jewish but about an early age when would we be talking?

May be a Bronze Age arrival into Europe, in which case your ancestor is some kinda Semite or Ancient Egyptian.

[Gallop]

May be a Bronze Age arrival into Europe, in which case your ancestor is some kinda Semite or Ancient Egyptian.


I thought it would be more than a hamita

[Gallop]

In the case of YDNA if it was a Jewish or Arab ancestor, I do not know how it could be that the thing is only in 4% of NA, which I can not know if it is by YDNA mitochondrial DNA. And in the case that it had been a Jew, it would be 0% sephardic or Askenazi. Nor have we considered the possibility of a Carthaginian.

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[Pine]

In the case of YDNA if it was a Jewish or Arab ancestor, I do not know how it could be that the thing is only in 4% of NA, which I can not know if it is by YDNA mitochondrial DNA. And in the case that it had been a Jew, it would be 0% sephardic or Askenazi. Nor have we considered the possibility of a Carthaginian.

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I said you may descend from an early Semite - that covers Carthaginians. Also, he would've lived so along ago, you shouldn't expect to find an autosomal trace of him.

[Gallop]

Yfull gave me E-BY7449_E-BY7449 * _ YF66572
I'm still with the Dutchman.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5QuKLAtmHGw/XcV17EST9SI/AAAAAAAABQw/WpuQFaLiiAMNHSj5e80cFx4YqJodHQy9wCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/yf66572.JPEG

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https://i.postimg.cc/7h5bR6Zs/Opera-Instant-neo-2019-10-23-144247-phylogeographer-com.png
This map would be valid for me then?

[Gallop]

BIG Y 700

In this picture downstream, upstream. Needless to say, I am the Spanish flag. They are all European countries less Jamaica than good was an English colony and you can expect anything; before it was Spanish by the way.

This strange journey to which historical account can attend ...




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[Pine]

Yfull gave me E-BY7449_E-BY7449 * _ YF66572
I'm still with the Dutchman.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5QuKLAtmHGw/XcV17EST9SI/AAAAAAAABQw/WpuQFaLiiAMNHSj5e80cFx4YqJodHQy9wCLcBGAsYHQ/s640/yf66572.JPEG

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https://i.postimg.cc/7h5bR6Zs/Opera-Instant-neo-2019-10-23-144247-phylogeographer-com.png
This map would be valid for me then?

No, the map is invalid for you - it's based on the overwhelming amount of Ashkenazi samples. That's why the final node is in Eastern Europe. You can see them on that YFull snapshot under E-BY7517.

[Gallop]

No, the map is invalid for you - it's based on the overwhelming amount of Ashkenazi samples. That's why the final node is in Eastern Europe. You can see them on that YFull snapshot under E-BY7517.

Thanks for answering!

So what conclusion do you draw? You can speak clearly without blunt.

[Pine]

Thanks for answering!

So what conclusion do you draw? You can speak clearly without blunt.

The fact that you're at the basal node doesn't help much in determining the ethnicity of your ancestor. I suppose it could suggest that your ancestor couldn't have then lived too far away from Spain - but Spain is right on the Mediterranean - everything is a swim away. We can eliminate Ashkenazi, but that was unlikely to begin with. Ask on Anthrogenica, many there understand this stuff much better. Almost everything I read here is wrong. An early split from other MENAs seems most likely.

[Gallop]

The fact that you're at the basal node doesn't help much in determining the ethnicity of your ancestor. I suppose it could suggest that your ancestor couldn't have then lived too far away from Spain - but Spain is right on the Mediterranean - everything is a swim away. We can eliminate Ashkenazi, but that was unlikely to begin with. Ask on Anthrogenica, many there understand this stuff much better. Almost everything I read here is wrong. An early split from other MENAs seems most likely.

Early separation refers to an era like Neolithic, bronze, iron. Do you see more likely that a Carthaginian or Roman imperial era for example?

[Pine]

Early separation refers to an era like Neolithic, bronze, iron. Do you see more likely that a Carthaginian or Roman imperial era for example?

I'm guessing prior to Carthaginians and possibly Late Neolithic. Really, ask on Anthrogenica.

[Gallop]

I'm guessing prior to Carthaginians and possibly Late Neolithic. Really, ask on Anthrogenica.

OK thank you very much.

[Pine]

OK thank you very much.

I'm not good at this when it gets that specific - you should ask on Anthrogenica.

[Gallop]

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I can't hide it any longer. I am not in favor of telling something without tangible evidence, but at this crucial moment I have no other possibility.

Although at the moment I cannot prove it in my paternal family there is an oral tradition that has been passed from generation to generation and that several elderly members of my paternal family have told me: We descend from a deserter of Napoleon's troops during the Napoleonic invasion in Spain .

We come from a French soldier from Napoleon who changed his last name. That's more or less how my old uncles have told me about my father and also a sister of his.

[Artek]

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I can't hide it any longer. I am not in favor of telling something without tangible evidence, but at this crucial moment I have no other possibility.

Although at the moment I cannot prove it in my paternal family there is an oral tradition that has been passed from generation to generation and that several elderly members of my paternal family have told me: We descend from a deserter of Napoleon's troops during the Napoleonic invasion in Spain .

We come from a French soldier from Napoleon who changed his last name. That's more or less how my old uncles have told me about my father and also a sister of his.

So we now have to wait for any French sample to come up. But as it was said by someone before - we can easily eliminate a possibility that your line was Northern African or Ashkenazi. I am quite sure it migrated from Levant but it is hard to specify the exact timeframe. May be with the Sea People, may be with the Roman Empire or Crusades. You may need patience to work it out but that's good you have done full sequence.

[Gallop]

The Y-DNA haplogroup family E is also common in West Asia as well as
in Africa. Its branch E1b1b developed in northeastern Africa and E1b1b’s
descendant branches settled mainly in West Asia, North Africa, and Europe.
Four participants with solidly confirmed Crimean Karaite ancestry were
found to belong to E1b1b1 or a descendant of it.
Sample K16’s Y-DNA belongs to E1b1b1 (E-L117). He is one step mutation from a man from France and an Italian from Sicily and two step mutations from one man each from Spain and the United Kingdom at the 25-
marker level. At the 12-marker level he is an exact match with two Ashkenazim from Poland, an Ashkenazi from Russia, two Ashkenazim from
Ukraine, two other people from Russia, two others from Poland, one other
from Ukraine, eleven from Germany, one from the Netherlands, one from
Italy, one from Cyprus, five from the United Kingdom (two of whom are
specified as England and one as Scotland), and one from Switzerland

Sample K09’s Y-DNA belongs to E1b1b1a1c (E-V22). At the 12-marker
level he is one step mutation from a Mizrahi from Iraq, a Saudi Arabian, an
Albanian, and one man from Belgium.


About the Khazars
http://www.karam.org.tr/Makaleler/909058854_5-%20Brook.pdf

[Pine]

The Y-DNA haplogroup family E is also common in West Asia as well as
in Africa. Its branch E1b1b developed in northeastern Africa and E1b1b’s
descendant branches settled mainly in West Asia, North Africa, and Europe.
Four participants with solidly confirmed Crimean Karaite ancestry were
found to belong to E1b1b1 or a descendant of it.
Sample K16’s Y-DNA belongs to E1b1b1 (E-L117). He is one step mutation from a man from France and an Italian from Sicily and two step mutations from one man each from Spain and the United Kingdom at the 25-
marker level. At the 12-marker level he is an exact match with two Ashkenazim from Poland, an Ashkenazi from Russia, two Ashkenazim from
Ukraine, two other people from Russia, two others from Poland, one other
from Ukraine, eleven from Germany, one from the Netherlands, one from
Italy, one from Cyprus, five from the United Kingdom (two of whom are
specified as England and one as Scotland), and one from Switzerland

Sample K09’s Y-DNA belongs to E1b1b1a1c (E-V22). At the 12-marker
level he is one step mutation from a Mizrahi from Iraq, a Saudi Arabian, an
Albanian, and one man from Belgium.


About the Khazars
http://www.karam.org.tr/Makaleler/909058854_5-%20Brook.pdf

Why are you linking Brooks' Karaim study? Also, his study disproves that Crimean Karaites are Khazars. Did you read it?

[Gallop]

^^

I am gathering all the information I find.

[Pine]

^^

I am gathering all the information I find.

Are you reading it or just gathering it?

[Gallop]

What do you think of my reference and the group I occupy?

[Pine]

What do you think of my reference and the group I occupy?

It's possible that you're an early Jewish split, but there isn't enough info yet. I saw a similar case for another clade today. One branch had a Dutchman and a Spaniard; the one next to it was Ashkenazi. Both branches were Middle Eastern in origin.

[Gallop]

Perhaps it is an entry through Central Asia and not the Middle East in the case of the Dutchman and me. The example of E-V22 mentioned in the article says that it is a mutation in Central Asia and that it maintains a distance of one step between several ethnic groups. On the map of Gedmatch I always keep a distance with everyone, I don't get the color red or in my country. What if it were an entry with the Indo-Europeans? perhaps the allocation of the past that relates E-V22 in Europe to Phoenicians and Jews is still too heavy.

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Function B:

Use this function if you come from two different populations

This function allows you to remove some of your ancestors from your results.
For example, you are certain that your mother is from northwestern France, but you do not know where your father came from.
Your mother represents 50% of your DNA, so you indicate 50 in the box of the percentage to be removed, then you select the corresponding population "France NorthWest", then you validate.
The results will give the similarity of 50% of your remaining DNA.

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With the normal function.

[Gallop]

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This map would somehow refute the family legend about our paternal origin in a deserter of Napoleon's troops and would throw down the hypothesis of a Phoenician origin through a Spanish for the Dutch hypothesis perhaps because it weighs too much on the guidelines that were marked for E-V22 in the past when all this of genetics began saying that it had to be in Europe of the Phoenicians or the Jews, and perhaps it is neither one thing nor the other.

[Pine]

How many times do I have to explain this: autosomal DNA will not help here, so those k36 oracles are no good.

[Gallop]

I can take it as a clue since the historical era to which I refer is relatively modern to have left a hint or trail in the Ydna.

[Adamm]

That haplogroup ended up in Iberia probably through Phoenicians/Rome//Moors.

[Kamal900]

There aren't many options. You're either descended from a Sephardi, Arab, or a very early split. Most (if not all) of the European countries on there are Ashkenazim.

Wouldn't be odd considering that the Jews that stayed had been assimilated to the general Iberian populace.

[Pine]

I can take it as a clue since the historical era to which I refer is relatively modern to have left a hint or trail in the Ydna.

That's false.

[Gallop]

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[Gallop]

Wouldn't be odd considering that the Jews that stayed had been assimilated to the general Iberian populace.

You are late, you have no idea what is behind all this, keep reading books from the 50s, 60s,70s. Stop masturbating too.

[Kamal900]

You are late, you have no idea what is behind all this, keep reading books from the 50s, 60s,70s. Stop masturbating too.

:confused:

[Gallop]

:confused:

It's a confusion, I'm sorry.

[Gallop]

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[Gallop]

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I really find it curious that by oral tradition my paternal family ensures that we descend by fatherly a French soldier defector of Napoleon's troops and I have obtained these results with Burgundy and other French regions and also the region of my partner in Yfull It would have been under Burgundy rule by the year 1400.

[Gallop]

More data as information. I am currently in negotiation with a genalogist and possibly at one time I can officially certify the origin of my DnaY lineage officially and I will be able to check if they conform to the family oral tradition so that I am aware of all the movements.


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wmKyhZk2imY/XgSPcBm556I/AAAAAAAABxw/m8ka1-ys2U8VTWA1CyO8NR-45M0HQlShACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/BY7566.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SrqtShPZUQw/XjW0mrTZCYI/AAAAAAAACnw/reVI737dzroG6Xve-DlT6c6YDekhmSg-ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/EBY7449tBY7566.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-71q6ZCGVaHA/XjBjzf08-4I/AAAAAAAACmw/EWO8q80POyYMEGLngAEcQ0zv2LzQGWAPACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Refinitivo.jpg

[Gallop]

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wmKyhZk2imY/XgSPcBm556I/AAAAAAAABxw/m8ka1-ys2U8VTWA1CyO8NR-45M0HQlShACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/BY7566.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0E5mceOxdDw/YDLCMD1Cw1I/AAAAAAAAF20/gVd5gFlitFoOx0UsUl7S8zmxvWb_fteuQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1273/Pap%25C3%25A1SpanishItalian.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Va-gPUkPRMU/YDLC1OVgNRI/AAAAAAAAF3A/0n8WyfrAKQoc5mHL06oMeRYpaVmxr5eiQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1335/Italian.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lSOXGNOOYBo/YDLaPp_XTHI/AAAAAAAAF3o/kNt0JoaZaUsFahPGWnWRtRVfXkqXnmL4ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1352/Espa%25C3%25B1olAbuelo.jpeg

Results of my father:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-w8C5QDouSqU/YDaBZ-29SKI/AAAAAAAAF6w/LATn2AqNe0sPFDMOH8heBrdDY1T_WatFwCLcBGAsYHQ/s808/European100x100.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Oeh_BNM9o88/YDLVV_xtKTI/AAAAAAAAF3I/aCjtDbcLgGodUj0SKmE0crobM5ycmsHQwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1280/100x100European.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1qc1iZDRyFQ/YDLB48D1QyI/AAAAAAAAF2o/5Lw128ti2JcK5IkjxFfqchfZpt5sss3agCLcBGAsYHQ/s792/Pap%25C3%25A1.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ejPb2qxcfzc/YDLYpvBa8AI/AAAAAAAAF3g/u044SqNLDBINkcXTI71QfzCLu5jc23GhQCLcBGAsYHQ/s781/broadly.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0E5mceOxdDw/YDLCMD1Cw1I/AAAAAAAAF20/gVd5gFlitFoOx0UsUl7S8zmxvWb_fteuQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1273/Pap%25C3%25A1SpanishItalian.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Va-gPUkPRMU/YDLC1OVgNRI/AAAAAAAAF3A/0n8WyfrAKQoc5mHL06oMeRYpaVmxr5eiQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1335/Italian.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Va-gPUkPRMU/YDLC1OVgNRI/AAAAAAAAF3A/0n8WyfrAKQoc5mHL06oMeRYpaVmxr5eiQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1335/Italian.jpeg
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lSOXGNOOYBo/YDLaPp_XTHI/AAAAAAAAF3o/kNt0JoaZaUsFahPGWnWRtRVfXkqXnmL4ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1352/Espa%25C3%25B1olAbuelo.jpeg

Photographic contribution:

These two are first my paternal great-grandfather and his brother in the second video.

As I have point number 4 and 3 empty in the dna line and in those points it does not mark full Italian Italian and it is not yet Spanish I would like to know if there is a possibility of a third country of origin of the man who came to Spain so I would like to know your opinion.


Paternal great-grandfather

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jkSRkQT5Nw

Brother of my paternal great-grandfather

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hy1my9zKro

[Pine]

you shouldn't expect to find an autosomal trace of your Y ancestor

[Gallop]

you shouldn't expect to find an autosomal trace of your Y ancestor

I did not say that

[gixajo]

Me acabo de enterar que hiciste el big Y.

[Gallop]

Me acabo de enterar que hiciste el big Y.


Sí hace la tira.

[Gallop]

Archivio della ricerca - Università degli studi di Napoli Federico II

Gli Italiani in Spagna nella guerra napoleonica (1807-1813).I fatti, i testimoni, l’ereditàAtti del IV convegno Internazionaledi “Spagna contemporanea”Novi Ligure, 22-24 ottobre 2004a cura diVittorio Scotti DouglasEdizioni dell’OrsoAlessandria

The Italians in Spain in the Napoleonic war (1807-1813). the facts, the witnesses, the inheritanceActs of the IV international conference of "Spain contemporary "Novi Ligure, 22-24 October 2004byVittorio Scotti DouglasEdizioni dell'OrsoAlessandria

https://core.ac.uk/reader/55068400

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0E5mceOxdDw/YDLCMD1Cw1I/AAAAAAAAF20/gVd5gFlitFoOx0UsUl7S8zmxvWb_fteuQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1273/Pap%25C3%25A1SpanishItalian.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Va-gPUkPRMU/YDLC1OVgNRI/AAAAAAAAF3A/0n8WyfrAKQoc5mHL06oMeRYpaVmxr5eiQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1335/Italian.jpeg

I am still puzzled by points 4 and 3, although maybe because in point 4 is the date where my ancestor would have arrived in Spain, but in that point he is not completely Italian, so previously his father or grandfather would have emigrated to another European country or in Italy he would have married a foreign woman, is the conclusion I am currently drawing.

[Tacitus]

More data as information. I am currently in negotiation with a genalogist and possibly at one time I can officially certify the origin of my DnaY lineage officially and I will be able to check if they conform to the family oral tradition so that I am aware of all the movements.


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wmKyhZk2imY/XgSPcBm556I/AAAAAAAABxw/m8ka1-ys2U8VTWA1CyO8NR-45M0HQlShACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/BY7566.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SrqtShPZUQw/XjW0mrTZCYI/AAAAAAAACnw/reVI737dzroG6Xve-DlT6c6YDekhmSg-ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/EBY7449tBY7566.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-71q6ZCGVaHA/XjBjzf08-4I/AAAAAAAACmw/EWO8q80POyYMEGLngAEcQ0zv2LzQGWAPACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Refinitivo.jpg




I am still puzzled by points 4 and 3, although maybe because in point 4 is the date where my ancestor would have arrived in Spain, but in that point he is not completely Italian, so previously his father or grandfather would have emigrated to another European country or in Italy he would have married a foreign woman, is the conclusion I am currently drawing.

I think if you're implying that your Y-DNA and Italian ancestry are connected, then perhaps your paternal ancestor was from a Corsican family who intermarried with the French, and then settled in Spain during/after the Napoleonic Wars.

[gixajo]

I think if you're implying that your Y-DNA and Italian ancestry are connected, then perhaps your paternal ancestor was from a Corsican family who intermarried with the French, and then settled in Spain during/after the Napoleonic Wars.

Maybe he is a descendant of Napoleon himself!!!;)

[Gallop]

I think if you're implying that your Y-DNA and Italian ancestry are connected, then perhaps your paternal ancestor was from a Corsican family who intermarried with the French, and then settled in Spain during/after the Napoleonic Wars.

Different hypotheses can be considered. I don't know E-V22 at what levels it is in Corsica and moreover I don't get Corsica in the results.

[Gallop]

Maybe he is a descendant of Napoleon himself!!!;)

Don't provoke me, my ego needs very little help to explode.

Since it is not usually nobles who marry foreign women, it could be a member of an Italian noble house.

Napoleon was also very short and we were not.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9bxSpbAQzOs/YDrTWn_T1pI/AAAAAAAAF74/xV5pRHR5SFMQLBnAE2rPBGDrHb9AjkIsgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1293/Altura.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ePjJR1vvVMs/YDsAB49DrqI/AAAAAAAAF9M/Y13yTJMHQfMySDOQnNQO4B6jnNW2efQQACLcBGAsYHQ/s1000/Neardentalensis.jpeg

[gixajo]

Don't provoke me, my ego needs very little help to explode.

Since it is not usually nobles who marry foreign women, it could be a member of an Italian noble house.

Napoleon was also very short and we were not.

G]

You don´t need to be married to have a child, and nobles at that times, and the nobles still less than any other...

Napoleon was not so short for his time, and more than 200 years later and several generations, even being too short could not affect any of his hypothetical nowadays descendants.

[Gallop]

May be a Bronze Age arrival into Europe, in which case your ancestor is some kinda Semite or Ancient Egyptian.

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 1.8146% / 0.01814626 | ADC: 0.25x RC
69.4 Basque_Spanish
14.0 North_Italy
9.2 Northwest_Caucasus
3.6 Western_North_Africa
2.4 South_Cushitic
0.8 North_Cushitic
0.6 French

To give an example of what I usually see in my amateur results. I tend to get more Cushitic. The most handsome, tallest, richest and longest-lived men on the planet.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IhPMIAAhB8o/YDrTbG0hgGI/AAAAAAAAF8Y/zujBqtLvVJAgIDHdnsk9bCvrhNHG9jdUQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1294/Telomeros.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-bNQMEUDdM0E/YDrTaZkKkWI/AAAAAAAAF8Q/fVx3F6ycFAgFjhjjD2d_lrK_QghRosvcgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1298/Longevidad.jpeg

I'm humble and understanding in real life and not at all pretentious, but if you light the fuse these things happen.

[Gallop]

I think if you're implying that your Y-DNA and Italian ancestry are connected, then perhaps your paternal ancestor was from a Corsican family who intermarried with the French, and then settled in Spain during/after the Napoleonic Wars.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SrqtShPZUQw/XjW0mrTZCYI/AAAAAAAACnw/reVI737dzroG6Xve-DlT6c6YDekhmSg-ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/EBY7449tBY7566.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VjdJDyCKr8s/X9Dja3ntKII/AAAAAAAAFJg/dWQc5N9w8zw9LgD8EDwv9BLuznlSdqP9ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1310/MapeYdnaEuropa.jpeg

The first map is old and now remains at sea.I forgot to tell you earlier that I have always had the intuition that it is not that way the entrance is on the totally opposite side.On an island I would go crazy, I wouldn't last more than 15 days. And it is also a result that looks for land and stays in the sea, it is not there, sorry.

These are my father's first matches

1. Scythian Southern Moldova
290 BC - Genetic Distance: 7.243 - scy305

2. Late Roman Mix Crypta Balbi
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 8.463 - R105

3. Early Medieval Andalusia
760 AD - Genetic Distance: 8.875 - I3585

4. Dolmen de Saint-Eugene Bronze Age France
1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.216 - EUG11

5. Copper Age Augsburg Bavaria
2250 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.42 - I5017

6. Iron Age Buerckelmatt Nordhouse France
750 BC - Genetic Distance: 9.477 - NOR2B6

7. Roman-Carthago Mix Empuries
150 AD - Genetic Distance: 9.776 - I8475

8. Early Bronze Age Mokrin Necropolis Serbia
1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 10.3 - MOK29

Its latest

650. Early Viking Age Ladby Grav Funen Denmark
800 AD - Genetic Distance: 27.2 - VK319

649. Medieval Tyrolian
590 AD - Genetic Distance: 27.19 - SZ5

648. Viking Denmark Revshale
1080 AD - Genetic Distance: 27.19 - Revshale16

647. Imperial Rome Centocelle
282 AD - Genetic Distance: 27.18 - R47

646. Medieval Netherlands Plague
1359 AD - Genetic Distance: 27.18 - Ber37

645. Viking Age Gotland Kopparsvik Sweden
975 AD - Genetic Distance: 27.16 - VK469

644. Grotte du Rouquet Moujan France
3080 BC - Genetic Distance: 27.15 - ROUQV

643. North Alpine Bronze Age
1812 BC - Genetic Distance: 27.11 - AITI_50

642. Viking St. Brice Massacre Oxford
1002 AD - Genetic Distance: 27.1 - VK149

641. Neolithic County Clare Ireland
3486 BC - Genetic Distance: 27.07 - PB675

640. Imperial Rome Centocelle
200 AD - Genetic Distance: 27.05 - R51

639. Halstatt
775 BC - Genetic Distance: 27.02 - DA112

[Gallop]

My research is complete with the addition of photographic files along with dna results.

E-BY7452
E-BY7449
E-BY7449*
YF66572

Paternal great-grandfather

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b82QU-0JmJc

Paternal grandfather

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyouvk3yBv0

[Gallop]

I have obtained a better copy of the family photograph and have been able to rescue some of the faces of my paternal great-grandfather's siblings.

I am doing my research work and apparently these photographs are raising blisters and they are trying by all means not to be published, what can it be due to, and I do not understand what is happening?

Can anyone know the reason?

My paternal great-grandfather's brothers and sister:

E-by7449 E-by7449* E-by7452 Yf66572


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1whtSiVYoY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTojedSNe3Q


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J-3xxP1at0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJm9LFiHVWk

I am going through real hell for posting these pictures on other sites, for some reason there are people interested in the images not being published

You have no idea what I had to go through to get here.

I am trying to have good information in my subclade thread so that it can be of use to others who match in the future as when I started there was nothing and was simply providing photographic files as input to the genetic results and apparently the pictures are more relevant than I could have imagined myself.

Ahora que te digo una cosa, no quieren caldo, pues dos tazas van a tener.

[Gallop]

I think if you're implying that your Y-DNA and Italian ancestry are connected, then perhaps your paternal ancestor was from a Corsican family who intermarried with the French, and then settled in Spain during/after the Napoleonic Wars.

I looked closely and that supposed Italian ancestor is not in the Y line in 23andMe so it must be another ancestor not related to the dna Y lineage.

[Gallop]

After so many surveys, movies, songs e.t.c. I need some genetics.


Then my Yfull will look like this.

Now that man why he is higher, has some meaning or may be because he has BigY 500 and my father and I have the BigY 700?


https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEg1rqbQjWL4sBd24Wdw95CEoJOTjL0TPKS9jcBp2DPTHu i1cWGOm4PvgdsH8Uxa3ycRrIWGf10ysFeJ-BxLIv0dMoCEluf_4KaOLXV3Ig62Sng-HSNa5f2520kzoAzqbt89rdTsetG74WOn_A--Kcpg1Ov9i9N7pDvdQXnP1rgfPKA58wY_yyvMMViS=s1198


https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiPA2uF8E25zAH03JxlC95NVfo0WjpS_WYIHFJcrN3DUk ckjPnzn-eQ-CKhS5Q-gNE4jq81RoKJ_5WZXe3BLquo4fWzYrrOZyioFwz6ihX_R5WJPJ KyOjDhjOBD3u0oUOgxf31srLEHxDIxQfc9ETvFqrltzdHl8WP2 a5UlGOSd_amTz7TDTZBdVIrq=s1214

Our line is 3360 years old if in each generation 50% of the lineage ethnicity is lost I have it much harder than others.

I admit suggestions seeing these dates and results, I promise not to resist.


https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEjy_wZpQc1r5sJF-GmrEKYRsAvH_nKJrP05UYMvUPyFHDXRE4xOLf6XAFWhrNCnTyp D7ELMeK8w_J5qGROgZWMFP60IGzhRb_TFvmfqpdbYMVSuq3HJ-Z8_9L5SBUZd-YGhWtM_YVYyC9fNbs7nIJHKShExyIh_EPVnV0kI4wIHJFE9QJ7 eHEepCujG=s1199

[Gallop]

You're not going to tell me anything...

[Gallop]

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEg1iW0bDS8prL3nyB3E4LWc-Iw6-NQImPlCK9Vda-K1AlYAJAmDbSt1A_G-yy23HJR89CIAwb6bD4K0vsOGIImgku5Uy3MUStiv-yzeGokFiC3hvAnVGoWdVnU1rteSREWbYx7e8nR7_WPneL5e6W4 urm2x_71ZDdpWWCmkKiSxY6wzidCHXLkdmTZD=s383

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgVjv7jucNaMx-Z9qcxKxQjoSwo0uLYLOw3ecJxoueCE0NBxvvGGvBzTmf1EewN0 gKKBpXGMSaBW2KPMjT3qAj7x0wSf7IVhiiLj23kilPhogbvom1 j4b5EIfWZrSJIrUBK6wznZnUM8lBE3Irfkvioq8uEAr8K78Rxq F7_aVuyJ5y3v0a1N7XNGSss=s1349

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hlI4rTzkSeo/YR5H9RPM4QI/AAAAAAAAGnQ/pGoTKbbgfpAjnXASgidjsj1KAcjhBSswwCLcBGAsYHQ/s475/mapaOverjisen.jpeg


Diagrams and map of my nearest location.

Spain is in red because there are two of us, my father and I. As can be seen in Yfull, haplogroup E in general is infinitely higher in number in the rest of Europe than in Spain.

My partner from Holland has been above and he has the BIg Y 500, we have the Big Y 700.

New situation, any ethnic-historical suggestions?

[Pine]

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEg1iW0bDS8prL3nyB3E4LWc-Iw6-NQImPlCK9Vda-K1AlYAJAmDbSt1A_G-yy23HJR89CIAwb6bD4K0vsOGIImgku5Uy3MUStiv-yzeGokFiC3hvAnVGoWdVnU1rteSREWbYx7e8nR7_WPneL5e6W4 urm2x_71ZDdpWWCmkKiSxY6wzidCHXLkdmTZD=s383

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEgVjv7jucNaMx-Z9qcxKxQjoSwo0uLYLOw3ecJxoueCE0NBxvvGGvBzTmf1EewN0 gKKBpXGMSaBW2KPMjT3qAj7x0wSf7IVhiiLj23kilPhogbvom1 j4b5EIfWZrSJIrUBK6wznZnUM8lBE3Irfkvioq8uEAr8K78Rxq F7_aVuyJ5y3v0a1N7XNGSss=s1349

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hlI4rTzkSeo/YR5H9RPM4QI/AAAAAAAAGnQ/pGoTKbbgfpAjnXASgidjsj1KAcjhBSswwCLcBGAsYHQ/s475/mapaOverjisen.jpeg


Diagrams and map of my nearest location.

Spain is in red because there are two of us, my father and I. As can be seen in Yfull, haplogroup E in general is infinitely higher in number in the rest of Europe than in Spain.

My partner from Holland has been above and he has the BIg Y 500, we have the Big Y 700.

New situation, any ethnic-historical suggestions?

Why did you test both yourself and your dad?

[Gallop]

Why did you test both yourself and your dad?

Man my father might be somewhat closer to the past than myself.


Well, what do you tell me, how do you see it?

[Pine]

Man my father might be somewhat closer to the past than myself.


Well, what do you tell me, how do you see it?

All of E-V22 looks really diverged right now on YFull due to probable missing samples. Fittingly, Egypt is really undersampled. Egyptians will likely fill the tree out, including your branch. Your ancestor would've most likely arrived in Roman times and possible later from the MENA area.

[Pine]

Spain is in red because there are two of us, my father and I. As can be seen in Yfull, haplogroup E in general is infinitely higher in number in the rest of Europe than in Spain.



Those are Jews, if you're inferring from the flags on YFull near your clade.

[Gallop]

Those are Jews, if you're inferring from the flags on YFull near your clade.

I was referring to E in general, in a general way, mine, his and the other one.

[Tongio]

Gallop I have one distant forebear(maternal grandfather of my great grandmother) that belonged to the lineage E-V22 he was of Azorean origin he os not on yfull tho only in ftdna his surname was Araújo Pereira.

[Gallop]

All of E-V22 looks really diverged right now on YFull due to probable missing samples. Fittingly, Egypt is really undersampled. Egyptians will likely fill the tree out, including your branch. Your ancestor would've most likely arrived in Roman times and possible later from the MENA area.


Well, I want what's mine then. I have been hearing for almost a decade that Egypt is undersampled, it is essential to do so.

[Pine]

Well, I want what's mine then. I've been hearing for almost a decade that Egypt is undersampled.

You're not the only one waiting.

[Gallop]

Gallop I have one distant forebear(maternal grandfather of my great grandmother) that belonged to the lineage E-V22 he was of Azorean origin he os not on yfull tho only in ftdna his surname was Araújo Pereira.


Have you already taken the test?

We have nothing to do with each other, I haven't felt any connection.


I allow myself these licenses :p

[Tongio]

Have you already taken the test?

We have nothing to do with each other, I haven't felt any connection.


I allow myself these licenses :p
Ok jajajaja.
In response to the first question,my y dna in another one (the one in my profile).My distant cousins took ftdna they are E-V22 >> E-BY7469 .They put it on our family tree, thats is why I know it . I thought this information might be interesting to you as this forebear of mine was born in 1716 in São Miguel, Azores ,of portuguese origin, so there it is another Iberian with a clade probably near to yours.

[Oneeye]

You're not the only one waiting.

As an E-BY8404 I find this thread pretty interesting.

Mine is extremely English in origin. A few distant hits in Bahrain... Roman Empire?

[Gallop]

Ok jajajaja.
In response to the first question,my y dna in another one (the one in my profile).My distant cousins took ftdna they are E-V22 >> E-BY7469 .They put it on our family tree, thats is why I know it . I thought this information might be interesting to you as this forebear of mine was born in 1716 in São Miguel, Azores ,of portuguese origin, so there it is another Iberian with a clade probably near to yours.


In the Azores (São Pedro (Vila do Porto) father have a match in FTDNA but it is because of my father's mitochondrial dna I imagine he will be related to Portugal, any day I send him a message to see if he knows anything about himself mt dna. Islands are not my thing, I can't stay on an island for more than 15 days.

[Gallop]

I love this thread:


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?354652-Classify-and-Pass-this-Man

[Ayetooey]

Interesting results Gallop.

[Gallop]

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEhbXRcH0xC4oBiTmB1aCL9d5f6wxRcSPWLj0g0A7yK3ld ZC_xpUXDJKAb9f4jRhIaYor92a9r96VVQmC_V_T8SXavOVXbKb aKQCUbxjudtCDRXFIO-g7NiVpSucAIURo9cGI_wRgGUI5PmTIMT3kQZZ6hfeZf88XKnYi Tg6rmeqMTMaCQRw8OTNAXdg=s1097

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEiN4CN3s7WE5gkNZ07VC5czrxTFHC9YEE4sGaOZe4SnQj awoAUsaqmPW2xA7burnrQ8Hssxy69_l5SObcgOK9w0Mh3rO_VW oKvYSRepwYzjkzRUMfjXW8toSMXJwICfkKRTGATaRrzVwEPJFI NtGzTW-ubMcDqSjelzWeccqTdXprCbfBJxJPhrygyy=s633


Aquí está la distribución de mi haplogrupo en Y full, no sé, pregúntales de qué religión son, yo soy católico, no voy a ir metiéndome en los asuntos de la gente, a mí qué me importa la religión que practican, hazlo tú que vas por los foros europeos echándole a los europeos en cara sus haplogrupos, cuando tendrías que estar aviniéndote con los de tu continente y aceptando tu indigenismo.

[Defcon2]

Why was Argentum banned?

[Gallop]

Me he enterado de esta información tarde y por casualidad, que decepción de mundo, que asco de mundo y aún y así me quieren poner pegas, hasta la polla!



The likely Roman

ROM059 E-BY7566 E1b-V22 ESP 2600 17 SNPs Big Y 500 or 700

https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7566/

[Gallop]

Father`s Results


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Using the new FTDNA function for DNA Y

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Napoleonic Spain is the term used to describe the Spanish territory occupied by the Napoleonic authorities during the Spanish War of Independence between 1808 and 1813.

Tralará la la la la lá

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Result of my father Roman Times

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Result of my father in Medieval times.

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Result of my father Roman Times

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Result of my father in Medieval times.

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el Sardo que nos suele salir muy a menudo lo deberia considerar parte de lo iberico?

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el Sardo que nos suele salir muy a menudo lo deberia considerar parte de lo iberico?

Es ibérico, eso lo consiguieron colar para españoles sí o sí, comiéndole la cabeza a las empresas de genética los italianos principalmente y otros europeos callaron e incluso les apoyaron, era una forma para los italianos de que Cerdeña no pareciera tan rara en Europa y a la vez que España se viera un poco más rara, es como matar dos pájaros, de un tiro. Lo hicieron cuando empezó todo esto y ahora a ver cómo nos lo quitamos de encima y no por nada sino porque todo el mundo sabe que es ibérico.

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Es ibérico, eso lo consiguieron colar para españoles sí o sí, comiéndole la cabeza a las empresas de genética los italianos principalmente y otros europeos callaron e incluso les apoyaron, era una forma para los italianos de que Cerdeña no pareciera tan rara en Europa y a la vez que España se viera un poco más rara, es como matar dos pájaros, de un tiro. Lo hicieron cuando empezó todo esto y ahora a ver cómo nos lo quitamos de encima y no por nada sino porque todo el mundo sabe que es ibérico.

Es que hay veces que obtengo incluso 30% y el otro dia encontre aqui en el foro una herramienta el cual podia eliminar mi iberico en mis coordenadas y solo pude eliminar lo iberico si eliminaba el "Sardo" y me quito todo lo iberico vamos que es muy iberico lo "sardo" ademas de que mejora las distancias en las calculadoras muchisimo mas si quito el sardo siempre por alguna razon soy 70-80% iberico y el resto Europa del este lo cual no tiene mucho sentido para mi

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Es que hay veces que obtengo incluso 30% y el otro dia encontre aqui en el foro una herramienta el cual podia eliminar mi iberico en mis coordenadas y solo pude eliminar lo iberico si eliminaba el "Sardo" y me quito todo lo iberico vamos que es muy iberico lo "sardo" ademas de que mejora las distancias en las calculadoras muchisimo mas si quito el sardo siempre por alguna razon soy 70-80% iberico y el resto Europa del este lo cual no tiene mucho sentido para mi


Hay herramientas donde la gente puede quitar esto o lo otro? xd, si es experimental como tú que lo dices, pero vaya de la playa.

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Fathe´ r Results

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DNA relatives
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Your DNA relative matches


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Well, it seems to be an early entry and the mutation that will result in my haplogroup occurs in the middle of the metal age. Spain marks two members because it's me and my father hehehe

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Appears in the Balkans 3750 BC
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My great-grandfather. Now I have two choices. The oral family tradition says that he is a deserter from Napoleon's troops and changed his surname, which would only be the case if he had been captured and forced to change his surname or if he had been a consul. Another hypothesis is that of a genealogist who told me that it could be a Catalan surname Castilianised in Malaga; although he also told me that he had not studied the surname in depth.
So here we are


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[Gallop]

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My paternal (DNA Y) great-grandfather second man from the left with his mother and all his brothers and sisters.
Do not replicate or publish this photograph without my permission ©


Haplogroup 1900 dc

"This haplogroup dates from the Modern Era which marks the beginning of worldwide contact through maritime travel. This time period is the most relevant for genealogy as it opens the possibility of identifying haplogroup progenitors through historical records"


Here the historical press tells us that from June 14, 1810 to December 24, 1811, 8,366 deserters from the French armies in Spain, who had enlisted under our flags, arrived in Gibraltar, a depository of foreign recruits.

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This information from the historical press confirms that desertions did occur, and in large numbers.

It also talks about prisoners of war.




This article from the historical press states that many of the many foreign soldiers who served in the French army deserted
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[Solitude]

Hay herramientas donde la gente puede quitar esto o lo otro? xd, si es experimental como tú que lo dices, pero vaya de la playa.

Gallop , try to triangulate with french people in myheritage , probably you will can , i can help you with that , if one of your ancestors is recent so probably you will can found them in a chromosome

[Gallop]

Gallop , try to triangulate with french people in myheritage , probably you will can , i can help you with that , if one of your ancestors is recent so probably you will can found them in a chromosome

In fact the French army was made up of many different nationalities, I have to keep checking the historical press as what I have found so far talks about foreign deserters from the French army.

[Gallop]

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E-BY7449 is surrounded by characters with identities that come from the same core, and yet it seems that E-BY7449 is Mr Nobody, the body has not yet been found?

[Gallop]

Only two western European surnames in my Y-DNA match at 12 markers.

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English: from Middle English more ‘moor, marsh, fen’ (Old English mōr), hence a topographic name for someone who lived in such a place, or a habitational name from any of various places called with this word, as for example Moore in Cheshire or More in Shropshire.

Less
English (of Norman origin): ethnic name from Old French more ‘Moor’, either someone from North Africa or, more often, a nickname for someone thought to resemble a Moor. Compare Morrell and Moreau .

Less
English (of Norman origin): from the Middle English personal name More (Old French More, Maur, Latin Maurus), originally denoting either ‘Moor’ or someone with a swarthy complexion (compare Morrell , Morrin , Morris , and sense 2 above). There was a 6th-century Christian saint of this name.