Japanese Gedmatch results

[Thambi]

DODECAD K7b CALC

Japanese kits and results below with oracles in spoilers.

Kit A738395

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 70.84
2 Siberian 29.13
3 Southern 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Japanese (Dodecad) 0.35
2 Japanese (HGDP) 1.8
3 JPT30 (Behar) 2.37
4 Naga (Metspalu) 4.33
5 Korean (Dodecad) 4.97
6 Tu (HGDP) 6.75
7 Naxi (HGDP) 9.73
8 Mongola (HGDP) 11.12
9 Yizu (HGDP) 11.21
10 Xibo (HGDP) 13.5
11 CHB30 (Metspalu) 17.81
12 Chinese (Dodecad) 18.39
13 Hezhen (HGDP) 20.28
14 Tujia (HGDP) 22.87
15 Han (HGDP) 25.17
16 CHD30 (Metspalu) 25.32
17 Garo (Chaubey) 25.77
18 Burmanese (Chaubey) 26.36
19 Miaozu (HGDP) 27.92
20 Daur (HGDP) 28.03

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 98.8% Japanese (Dodecad) + 1.2% Daur (HGDP) @ 0.02
2 99.6% Japanese (Dodecad) + 0.4% Yakut (HGDP) @ 0.02
3 99.6% Japanese (Dodecad) + 0.4% Evenk (Rasmussen) @ 0.03
4 99.7% Japanese (Dodecad) + 0.3% Nganassan (Rasmussen) @ 0.03
5 63.4% Han (HGDP) + 36.6% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 0.03
6 55.5% Hezhen (HGDP) + 44.5% CHD30 (Metspalu) @ 0.03
7 59.1% She (HGDP) + 40.9% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 0.03
8 65.6% Tujia (HGDP) + 34.4% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 0.03
9 59.3% Hezhen (HGDP) + 40.7% CHS30 (SGVP) @ 0.03
10 57.9% Hezhen (HGDP) + 42.1% Miaozu (HGDP) @ 0.03
11 71% CHB30 (Metspalu) + 29% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 0.03
12 91.9% Japanese (HGDP) + 8.1% Hezhen (HGDP) @ 0.03
13 53.2% CHB30 (Metspalu) + 46.8% Hezhen (HGDP) @ 0.03
14 52.4% Chinese (Dodecad) + 47.6% Hezhen (HGDP) @ 0.03
15 55.4% Hezhen (HGDP) + 44.6% Han (HGDP) @ 0.03
16 89.5% JPT30 (Behar) + 10.5% Hezhen (HGDP) @ 0.03
17 80.3% Korean (Dodecad) + 19.7% Hezhen (HGDP) @ 0.03
18 59.8% Hezhen (HGDP) + 40.2% She (HGDP) @ 0.03
19 96% Japanese (HGDP) + 4% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 0.03
20 94.8% JPT30 (Behar) + 5.2% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 0.03


Kit M729098

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 71.43
2 Siberian 28.49
3 African 0.04
4 Southern 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Japanese (Dodecad) 0.54
2 Japanese (HGDP) 0.92
3 JPT30 (Behar) 1.49
4 Naga (Metspalu) 3.73
5 Korean (Dodecad) 4.09
6 Tu (HGDP) 6.77
7 Naxi (HGDP) 8.88
8 Yizu (HGDP) 10.36
9 Mongola (HGDP) 11.92
10 Xibo (HGDP) 14.35
11 CHB30 (Metspalu) 16.93
12 Chinese (Dodecad) 17.51
13 Hezhen (HGDP) 21.17
14 Tujia (HGDP) 21.98
15 Han (HGDP) 24.29
16 CHD30 (Metspalu) 24.44
17 Garo (Chaubey) 25.45
18 Burmanese (Chaubey) 26.06
19 Miaozu (HGDP) 27.03
20 CHS30 (SGVP) 28.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 98.9% Japanese (HGDP) + 1.1% Yakut (HGDP) @ 0.07
2 96.9% Japanese (HGDP) + 3.1% Daur (HGDP) @ 0.07
3 99% Japanese (HGDP) + 1% Evenk (Rasmussen) @ 0.07
4 98.6% JPT30 (Behar) + 1.4% Nganassan (Rasmussen) @ 0.08
5 98.7% Japanese (Dodecad) + 1.3% CDX30 (1000Genomes) @ 0.08
6 99.1% Japanese (HGDP) + 0.9% Nganassan (Rasmussen) @ 0.08
7 98.7% Japanese (Dodecad) + 1.3% Dai (HGDP) @ 0.08
8 98.9% Japanese (HGDP) + 1.1% Yukagir (Rasmussen) @ 0.08
9 98.3% JPT30 (Behar) + 1.7% Evenk (Rasmussen) @ 0.08
10 95.1% JPT30 (Behar) + 4.9% Daur (HGDP) @ 0.08
11 53.6% Hezhen (HGDP) + 46.4% CHD30 (Metspalu) @ 0.09
12 57.5% Hezhen (HGDP) + 42.5% CHS30 (SGVP) @ 0.09
13 98.2% Japanese (Dodecad) + 1.8% CHS30 (SGVP) @ 0.09
14 64.7% Han (HGDP) + 35.3% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 0.09
15 67% Tujia (HGDP) + 33% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 0.09
16 71.8% Chinese (Dodecad) + 28.2% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 0.09
17 97.9% Japanese (Dodecad) + 2.1% Han (HGDP) @ 0.09
18 50.9% Hezhen (HGDP) + 49.1% Tujia (HGDP) @ 0.09
19 54.7% Chinese (Dodecad) + 45.3% Hezhen (HGDP) @ 0.09
20 97.6% Japanese (Dodecad) + 2.4% Tujia (HGDP) @ 0.09


Kit T176751

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 72.28
2 Siberian 27.61
3 African 0.07
4 South_Asian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 JPT30 (Behar) 0.27
2 Japanese (HGDP) 0.36
3 Japanese (Dodecad) 1.79
4 Korean (Dodecad) 2.84
5 Naga (Metspalu) 3.11
6 Tu (HGDP) 7.03
7 Naxi (HGDP) 7.68
8 Yizu (HGDP) 9.15
9 Mongola (HGDP) 13.08
10 Xibo (HGDP) 15.58
11 CHB30 (Metspalu) 15.68
12 Chinese (Dodecad) 16.26
13 Tujia (HGDP) 20.73
14 Hezhen (HGDP) 22.42
15 Han (HGDP) 23.04
16 CHD30 (Metspalu) 23.19
17 Garo (Chaubey) 25.05
18 Burmanese (Chaubey) 25.68
19 Miaozu (HGDP) 25.78
20 CHS30 (SGVP) 27.37

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 98.9% Japanese (HGDP) + 1.1% Lahu (HGDP) @ 0.1
2 99% Japanese (HGDP) + 1% KHV30 (1000Genomes) @ 0.1
3 99.6% JPT30 (Behar) + 0.4% Buryat (Rasmussen) @ 0.11
4 99.1% Japanese (HGDP) + 0.9% Dai (HGDP) @ 0.11
5 99.6% JPT30 (Behar) + 0.4% Tuva (Rasmussen) @ 0.11
6 96.4% Japanese (HGDP) + 3.6% Yizu (HGDP) @ 0.11
7 99.1% Japanese (HGDP) + 0.9% CDX30 (1000Genomes) @ 0.11
8 98.4% JPT30 (Behar) + 1.6% Xibo (HGDP) @ 0.11
9 99.5% JPT30 (Behar) + 0.5% Mongol (Rasmussen) @ 0.11
10 99.7% JPT30 (Behar) + 0.3% Dolgan (Rasmussen) @ 0.11
11 98.2% JPT30 (Behar) + 1.8% Mongola (HGDP) @ 0.11
12 95.7% Japanese (HGDP) + 4.3% Naxi (HGDP) @ 0.11
13 99.7% JPT30 (Behar) + 0.3% Yukagir (Rasmussen) @ 0.11
14 99.7% JPT30 (Behar) + 0.3% Ket (Rasmussen) @ 0.11
15 97.3% Korean (Dodecad) + 2.7% Nganassan (Rasmussen) @ 0.11
16 99.6% JPT30 (Behar) + 0.4% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 0.12
17 99.7% JPT30 (Behar) + 0.3% Yakut (HGDP) @ 0.12
18 99.2% JPT30 (Behar) + 0.8% Daur (HGDP) @ 0.12
19 99.7% JPT30 (Behar) + 0.3% Evenk (Rasmussen) @ 0.12
20 99.7% JPT30 (Behar) + 0.3% Selkup (Rasmussen) @ 0.12


Kit MR7430427

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 73.6
2 Siberian 26.4

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Korean (Dodecad) 1.01
2 JPT30 (Behar) 1.59
3 Japanese (HGDP) 2.17
4 Naga (Metspalu) 3.14
5 Japanese (Dodecad) 3.61
6 Naxi (HGDP) 6.04
7 Yizu (HGDP) 7.47
8 Tu (HGDP) 7.84
9 CHB30 (Metspalu) 13.85
10 Chinese (Dodecad) 14.43
11 Mongola (HGDP) 14.83
12 Xibo (HGDP) 17.38
13 Tujia (HGDP) 18.9
14 Han (HGDP) 21.21
15 CHD30 (Metspalu) 21.36
16 Miaozu (HGDP) 23.95
17 Hezhen (HGDP) 24.25
18 Garo (Chaubey) 24.69
19 Burmanese (Chaubey) 25.35
20 CHS30 (SGVP) 25.54

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.2% Han (HGDP) + 30.8% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 0
2 93.1% JPT30 (Behar) + 6.9% CHD30 (Metspalu) @ 0
3 87.6% Japanese (Dodecad) + 12.4% CHS30 (SGVP) @ 0
4 85.5% Japanese (Dodecad) + 14.5% Han (HGDP) @ 0
5 90.8% Japanese (HGDP) + 9.2% CHD30 (Metspalu) @ 0
6 51.3% Hezhen (HGDP) + 48.7% CHS30 (SGVP) @ 0
7 96% Korean (Dodecad) + 4% Hezhen (HGDP) @ 0
8 50.3% Miaozu (HGDP) + 49.7% Hezhen (HGDP) @ 0
9 52% Hezhen (HGDP) + 48% She (HGDP) @ 0
10 56.2% Tujia (HGDP) + 43.8% Hezhen (HGDP) @ 0
11 86.5% Japanese (HGDP) + 13.5% CHB30 (Metspalu) @ 0
12 86.9% Japanese (Dodecad) + 13.1% Miaozu (HGDP) @ 0
13 84% Japanese (Dodecad) + 16% Tujia (HGDP) @ 0
14 63.6% CHB30 (Metspalu) + 36.4% Hezhen (HGDP) @ 0
15 53.2% CHD30 (Metspalu) + 46.8% Hezhen (HGDP) @ 0
16 86.9% Japanese (HGDP) + 13.1% Chinese (Dodecad) @ 0
17 90.1% JPT30 (Behar) + 9.9% Chinese (Dodecad) @ 0
18 93% JPT30 (Behar) + 7% Han (HGDP) @ 0
19 93.8% JPT30 (Behar) + 6.2% Miaozu (HGDP) @ 0
20 68.3% Korean (Dodecad) + 31.7% Japanese (HGDP) @ 0


Jomon influenced Japanese

Kit A243690

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 68.15
2 Siberian 26.5
3 South_Asian 5.35

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Naga (Metspalu) 4.4
2 Tu (HGDP) 4.99
3 Japanese (Dodecad) 6.22
4 Japanese (HGDP) 6.45
5 JPT30 (Behar) 6.63
6 Korean (Dodecad) 7.91
7 Naxi (HGDP) 9.86
8 Yizu (HGDP) 11.19
9 Mongola (HGDP) 11.67
10 Xibo (HGDP) 14.3
11 CHB30 (Metspalu) 18.8
12 Chinese (Dodecad) 19.34
13 Garo (Chaubey) 20.03
14 Burmanese (Chaubey) 20.66
15 Hezhen (HGDP) 21.28
16 Tujia (HGDP) 23.62
17 Han (HGDP) 25.86
18 CHD30 (Metspalu) 26
19 Miaozu (HGDP) 28.53
20 Daur (HGDP) 28.61

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92% Japanese (Dodecad) + 8% BONDA (Chaubey) @ 0.11
2 92% Japanese (Dodecad) + 8% Juang (Chaubey) @ 0.12
3 92.6% Japanese (Dodecad) + 7.4% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 0.38
4 92.7% Japanese (Dodecad) + 7.3% Savara (Chaubey) @ 0.4
5 92.8% Japanese (Dodecad) + 7.2% Ho (Chaubey) @ 0.45
6 93.9% Japanese (HGDP) + 6.1% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 0.51
7 93.8% Japanese (HGDP) + 6.2% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 0.55
8 93.4% Japanese (HGDP) + 6.6% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 0.62
9 93.1% Japanese (HGDP) + 6.9% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 0.65
10 93.8% JPT30 (Behar) + 6.2% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 0.73
11 93.6% JPT30 (Behar) + 6.4% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 0.79
12 92.6% Japanese (HGDP) + 7.4% Ho (Chaubey) @ 0.88
13 92.5% Japanese (HGDP) + 7.5% Savara (Chaubey) @ 0.93
14 93.3% JPT30 (Behar) + 6.7% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 0.93
15 92.5% Japanese (HGDP) + 7.5% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 0.94
16 93.4% Japanese (HGDP) + 6.6% Gond (Metspalu) @ 0.96
17 93% JPT30 (Behar) + 7% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 1.14
18 94% Japanese (HGDP) + 6% North_Kannadi (Behar) @ 1.16
19 93.3% JPT30 (Behar) + 6.7% Gond (Metspalu) @ 1.19
20 91.9% Japanese (HGDP) + 8.1% Juang (Chaubey) @ 1.2


Kit A641984

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 69.39
2 Siberian 26.31
3 South_Asian 4.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Naga (Metspalu) 2.83
2 Tu (HGDP) 4.91
3 Japanese (HGDP) 5.05
4 Japanese (Dodecad) 5.05
5 JPT30 (Behar) 5.17
6 Korean (Dodecad) 6.34
7 Naxi (HGDP) 8.53
8 Yizu (HGDP) 9.92
9 Mongola (HGDP) 12.23
10 Xibo (HGDP) 14.91
11 CHB30 (Metspalu) 17.47
12 Chinese (Dodecad) 18.02
13 Garo (Chaubey) 20.72
14 Burmanese (Chaubey) 21.37
15 Hezhen (HGDP) 21.94
16 Tujia (HGDP) 22.35
17 Han (HGDP) 24.61
18 CHD30 (Metspalu) 24.75
19 Miaozu (HGDP) 27.3
20 CHS30 (SGVP) 28.86

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.2% Japanese (HGDP) + 5.8% Ho (Chaubey) @ 0.04
2 94.1% Japanese (HGDP) + 5.9% Savara (Chaubey) @ 0.08
3 94% Japanese (HGDP) + 6% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 0.1
4 93.5% Japanese (HGDP) + 6.5% Juang (Chaubey) @ 0.3
5 93.5% Japanese (HGDP) + 6.5% BONDA (Chaubey) @ 0.31
6 94.6% Japanese (HGDP) + 5.4% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 0.34
7 94.5% JPT30 (Behar) + 5.5% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 0.42
8 95.2% JPT30 (Behar) + 4.8% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 0.43
9 95% JPT30 (Behar) + 5% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 0.45
10 94.7% JPT30 (Behar) + 5.3% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 0.47
11 76.7% Lahu (HGDP) + 23.3% Nganassan (Rasmussen) @ 0.52
12 94.1% JPT30 (Behar) + 5.9% Ho (Chaubey) @ 0.58
13 94% JPT30 (Behar) + 6% Savara (Chaubey) @ 0.62
14 93.9% JPT30 (Behar) + 6.1% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 0.63
15 94.9% Japanese (HGDP) + 5.1% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 0.68
16 94.7% JPT30 (Behar) + 5.3% Gond (Metspalu) @ 0.75
17 95.2% Japanese (HGDP) + 4.8% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 0.75
18 95.3% Japanese (HGDP) + 4.7% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 0.77
19 93.5% JPT30 (Behar) + 6.5% Juang (Chaubey) @ 0.84
20 93.4% JPT30 (Behar) + 6.6% BONDA (Chaubey) @ 0.85


Kit H671112

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 69.54
2 Siberian 26.65
3 South_Asian 3.81

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Naga (Metspalu) 2.6
2 Japanese (Dodecad) 4.47
3 Japanese (HGDP) 4.52
4 JPT30 (Behar) 4.66
5 Tu (HGDP) 4.88
6 Korean (Dodecad) 6
7 Naxi (HGDP) 8.55
8 Yizu (HGDP) 9.97
9 Mongola (HGDP) 11.97
10 Xibo (HGDP) 14.64
11 CHB30 (Metspalu) 17.46
12 Chinese (Dodecad) 18.02
13 Garo (Chaubey) 21.31
14 Hezhen (HGDP) 21.67
15 Burmanese (Chaubey) 21.95
16 Tujia (HGDP) 22.38
17 Han (HGDP) 24.65
18 CHD30 (Metspalu) 24.79
19 Miaozu (HGDP) 27.35
20 CHS30 (SGVP) 28.92

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.2% Japanese (HGDP) + 4.8% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 0.24
2 94.8% Japanese (HGDP) + 5.2% Ho (Chaubey) @ 0.27
3 94.7% Japanese (HGDP) + 5.3% Savara (Chaubey) @ 0.3
4 94.7% Japanese (HGDP) + 5.3% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 0.32
5 95.6% JPT30 (Behar) + 4.4% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 0.41
6 95.5% JPT30 (Behar) + 4.5% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 0.45
7 95.4% Japanese (HGDP) + 4.6% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 0.46
8 94.2% Japanese (HGDP) + 5.8% Juang (Chaubey) @ 0.5
9 95.6% Japanese (HGDP) + 4.4% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 0.5
10 95.8% Japanese (HGDP) + 4.2% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 0.51
11 94.2% Japanese (HGDP) + 5.8% BONDA (Chaubey) @ 0.51
12 95.2% JPT30 (Behar) + 4.8% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 0.53
13 95% JPT30 (Behar) + 5% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 0.63
14 73.7% KHV30 (1000Genomes) + 26.3% Nganassan (Rasmussen) @ 0.64
15 95.4% Japanese (HGDP) + 4.6% Gond (Metspalu) @ 0.69
16 59.1% Lahu (HGDP) + 40.9% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 0.73
17 89.6% Japanese (Dodecad) + 10.4% Khasi (Chaubey) @ 0.74
18 95.2% JPT30 (Behar) + 4.8% Gond (Metspalu) @ 0.75
19 76.6% Lahu (HGDP) + 23.4% Nganassan (Rasmussen) @ 0.79
20 94.7% JPT30 (Behar) + 5.3% Ho (Chaubey) @ 0.81


Kit MQ9143827

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 69.31
2 Siberian 27.07
3 South_Asian 3.6
4 Southern 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Naga (Metspalu) 2.9
2 Japanese (Dodecad) 4.2
3 Japanese (HGDP) 4.4
4 JPT30 (Behar) 4.61
5 Tu (HGDP) 4.83
6 Korean (Dodecad) 6.16
7 Naxi (HGDP) 8.97
8 Yizu (HGDP) 10.41
9 Mongola (HGDP) 11.49
10 Xibo (HGDP) 14.14
11 CHB30 (Metspalu) 17.85
12 Chinese (Dodecad) 18.42
13 Hezhen (HGDP) 21.16
14 Garo (Chaubey) 21.71
15 Burmanese (Chaubey) 22.34
16 Tujia (HGDP) 22.8
17 Han (HGDP) 25.07
18 CHD30 (Metspalu) 25.21
19 Miaozu (HGDP) 27.78
20 Daur (HGDP) 28.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.6% Japanese (Dodecad) + 5.4% BONDA (Chaubey) @ 0.37
2 95.9% Japanese (HGDP) + 4.1% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 0.37
3 94.6% Japanese (Dodecad) + 5.4% Juang (Chaubey) @ 0.38
4 95.8% Japanese (HGDP) + 4.2% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 0.42
5 95.5% Japanese (HGDP) + 4.5% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 0.49
6 58.4% Lahu (HGDP) + 41.6% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 0.53
7 95.1% Japanese (Dodecad) + 4.9% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 0.55
8 95.1% Japanese (Dodecad) + 4.9% Savara (Chaubey) @ 0.56
9 73.3% KHV30 (1000Genomes) + 26.7% Nganassan (Rasmussen) @ 0.59
10 95.3% Japanese (HGDP) + 4.7% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 0.59
11 95.2% Japanese (Dodecad) + 4.8% Ho (Chaubey) @ 0.6
12 90.3% Japanese (Dodecad) + 9.7% Khasi (Chaubey) @ 0.68
13 95.5% Japanese (HGDP) + 4.5% Gond (Metspalu) @ 0.7
14 95% Japanese (HGDP) + 5% Ho (Chaubey) @ 0.76
15 95.7% JPT30 (Behar) + 4.3% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 0.77
16 95.9% Japanese (HGDP) + 4.1% North_Kannadi (Behar) @ 0.79
17 94.9% Japanese (HGDP) + 5.1% Savara (Chaubey) @ 0.8
18 94.9% Japanese (HGDP) + 5.1% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 0.81
19 95.6% JPT30 (Behar) + 4.4% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 0.82
20 95.9% Japanese (HGDP) + 4.1% Hakkipikki (Metspalu) @ 0.83

[Coastal Elite]

It seems like Japanese heritage is easy to identify and is not easily confused with other East Asians. It would be interesting if a commercial testing service could show various regions of Japan because I think they are pretty vague at this point.

[Thambi]

It seems like Japanese heritage is easy to identify and is not easily confused with other East Asians. It would be interesting if a commercial testing service could show various regions of Japan because I think they are pretty vague at this point.

Main distinguishing factor for japanese is the presence of south asian/jomon influenced folks. Without that, they are fairly similar to koreans with slightly higher siberian. Japanese are basically Yayoi (Korean) mixed with jomon.

Some groups like Naga in northeast india can be fairly similar to japanese

[Kamal900]

It seems like Japanese heritage is easy to identify and is not easily confused with other East Asians. It would be interesting if a commercial testing service could show various regions of Japan because I think they are pretty vague at this point.

They ironically genetically cluster the closest to one of the peoples they despise the most, the Koreans. They seem to have partial Autronesian ancestry from SE Asia, and they seem to cluster with the Naga of all people - the native people of NE India.

[Coastal Elite]

Main distinguishing factor for japanese is the presence of south asian/jomon influenced folks. Without that, they are fairly similar to koreans with slightly higher siberian. Japanese are basically Yayoi (Korean) mixed with jomon.

Some groups like Naga in northeast india can be fairly similar to japanese

Yup, a Yayoi and Jomon mix although I believe the there is a great percentage of Yayoi than Jomon. I almost think that Jomon to Japanese is like WHG to Europeans.

[Thambi]

They ironically genetically cluster the closest to one of the peoples they despise the most, the Koreans. They seem to have partial Autronesian ancestry from SE Asia, and they seem to cluster with the Naga of all people - the native people of NE India.

you'd be surprised but there are pseudo korean/japanese looking people in NE india. Many northeast indians, tibetans, bhutanese, nepalis have similarities with northeast asians like koreans, japanese, northern chinese.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFxcUC9QlTI&t=240s

[Thambi]

Yup, a Yayoi and Jomon mix although I believe the there is a great percentage of Yayoi than Jomon. I almost think that Jomon to Japanese is like WHG to Europeans.

yup youre right, almost all of it is yayoi. with maybe 5-10% max jomon influence among some individuals.

[Kamal900]

you'd be surprised but there are pseudo korean/japanese looking people in NE india. Many northeast indians, tibetans, bhutanese, nepalis have similarities with northeast asians like koreans, japanese, northern chinese.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFxcUC9QlTI&t=240s

Oh. I always had the impression that they looked like Filipinos, lol.

[Thambi]

Oh. I always had the impression that they looked like Filipinos, lol.

It depends on the area and tribe. Nagas, Arunachalis, sikkimese (where that girl is from) look most NE asian shifted while rest of northeasterners look more like SE asians or chindians lol. NE indians can range from Korean to Indonesian to mainland indian.

[Smeagol]

I almost think that Jomon to Japanese is like WHG to Europeans.

It seems to be much less than that.

[Kamal900]

It seems to be much less than that.

It seems that the Japanese are just as Jomon as the British are to the ancient neolithic British peoples which is 10%.

[Smeagol]

It seems that the Japanese are just as Jomon as the British are to the ancient neolithic British peoples which is 10%.

Yeah. I wonder what the imperial family would score. They supposedly have a Jomon haplogroup.

[Kamal900]

Yeah. I wonder what the imperial family would score. They supposedly have a Jomon haplogroup.

And I wonder how closely affiliated the Ainu people are to the Jomon? They are the hairiest Mongoloids in Asia and they kinda have a pseudo-Caucasoid look on them as well. What I know is that the Jomon were paleo-Mongoloids like the Ainu today while the Yayoi were predominately neo-Mongoloid.

[Smeagol]

And I wonder how closely affiliated the Ainu people are to the Jomon? They are the hairiest Mongoloids in Asia and they kinda have a pseudo-Caucasoid look on them as well. What I know is that the Jomon were paleo-Mongoloids like the Ainu today while the Yayoi were predominately neo-Mongoloid.

I'm sure the Ainu are more Jomon than regular Japanese but I haven't seen any results from them.

[Adamastor]

And I wonder how closely affiliated the Ainu people are to the Jomon? They are the hairiest Mongoloids in Asia and they kinda have a pseudo-Caucasoid look on them as well. What I know is that the Jomon were paleo-Mongoloids like the Ainu today while the Yayoi were predominately neo-Mongoloid.

Ainus are genetically ''Australoids'', not paleo-Mongoloids. Some ancient types of Australoids converge phenotypically with Caucasoids. Actually the whole Caucasoid-Negroid-Mongoloid-Australoid division has been eroded by modern genetics.

I've seen Dravidian speaking groups from extreme South India who were classified as Caucasoid-Australoid hybrids by early anthropologists with features much more similar to Europeans than many Afghans and Pashtuns, who are supposed to be full ''Caucasoids''.

This old racial anthroppology is dead with the advent of modern genetics.

[Kamal900]

I'm sure the Ainu are more Jomon than regular Japanese but I haven't seen any results from them.

I wish they did. They look pretty interesting.
https://www.sapiens.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/01-A5X1N3-1-edited-1076x588.jpg
http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/9-Amazing-Things-About-the-Ainu-People-2.jpg
https://n4v5s9s7.stackpathcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/SF0272793.jpg

[Smeagol]

Actually the whole Caucasoid-Negroid-Mongoloid-Australoid division has been eroded by modern genetics.

Even if it's more complicated then that, these groups as defined by physical anthropology still all genetically cluster closer to each other than anything else.

[Kamal900]

Ainus are genetically ''Australoids'', not paleo-Mongoloids. Some ancient types of Australoids converge phenotypically with Caucasoids. Actually the whole Caucasoid-Negroid-Mongoloid-Australoid division has been eroded by modern genetics.

I've seen Dravidian speaking groups from extreme South India who were classified as Caucasoid-Australoid hybrids by early anthropologists with features much more similar to Europeans than many Afghans and Pashtuns, who are supposed to be full ''Caucasoids''.

This old racial anthroppology is dead with the advent of modern genetics.

Yeah, but Caucasoids or West-Eurasians are genetically the most similar to one another which includes Europeans and MENA's. Hmm, it doesn't say that the Ainu are genetically Austroloids or South Eurasians:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people#Autosomal_DNA

[Smeagol]

https://pastdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Nuria-Graham-resize-2.jpg

I don't think this one is an Ainu. Looks way too European.

[Kamal900]

I don't think this one is an Ainu. Looks way too European.

Oh, my bad. She's Spanish.

[Adamastor]

Even if it's more complicated then that, these groups as defined by physical anthropology still all genetically cluster closer to each other than anything else.

Almost no one is 100% anything if we go back enough in time. The distance between ANE and ''West Med'' type of ancestry is as high as the distance between modern South Italians and Bantus. Physical anthropology that doesn't consider genetics is basically worthless nowadays.

[Smeagol]

Almost no one is 100% anything if we go back enough in time. The distance between ANE and ''West Med'' type of ancestry is as high as the distance between modern South Italians and Bantus. Physical anthropology that doesn't consider genetics is basically worthless nowadays.

Genetic purity doesn't exist, but regardless, if you look at at a PCA plot of world populations it actually matches pretty well with the Caucasoid-Mongoloid-Negroid-Australoid division.

[Thambi]

I wish they did. They look pretty interesting.

Ainus were probably an intermediate between jomon and modern yayoi type japanese. I couldnt find any ainu kits but here are two jomon kits. they pretty much come out as 75% East asian like and 25% south asian like with burmese and some northeast indian groups being the closest among modern populations but with a great distance obviously.

Kit M592785

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 54.26
2 South_Asian 19.52
3 Siberian 16.28
4 Atlantic_Baltic 4.3
5 African 3.9
6 Southern 0.93
7 West_Asian 0.82

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Burmanese (Chaubey) 13.18
2 Garo (Chaubey) 14.03
3 Khasi (Chaubey) 17
4 Tu (HGDP) 23.46
5 PANIYA (Behar) 24.23
6 Naga (Metspalu) 26.06
7 Mongola (HGDP) 26.89
8 Naxi (HGDP) 28.16
9 Japanese (Dodecad) 28.51
10 Yizu (HGDP) 28.6
11 Japanese (HGDP) 28.67
12 JPT30 (Behar) 28.76
13 Xibo (HGDP) 28.85
14 Korean (Dodecad) 29.27
15 Cambodians (HGDP) 31.74
16 MAS30 (SGVP) 33.34
17 Hezhen (HGDP) 33.76
18 CHB30 (Metspalu) 34.67
19 Chinese (Dodecad) 35.01
20 Daur (HGDP) 37.74

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.7% PANIYA (Behar) + 23.3% Ket (Rasmussen) @ 3.75
2 77.5% PANIYA (Behar) + 22.5% Dolgan (Rasmussen) @ 4.19
3 76.5% PANIYA (Behar) + 23.5% Selkup (Rasmussen) @ 4.39
4 68.9% PANIYA (Behar) + 31.1% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 4.68
5 78.2% PANIYA (Behar) + 21.8% Yukagir (Rasmussen) @ 5.17
6 71.1% PANIYA (Behar) + 28.9% Tuva (Rasmussen) @ 5.35
7 65.9% PANIYA (Behar) + 34.1% Mongol (Rasmussen) @ 5.77
8 78.9% PANIYA (Behar) + 21.1% Evenk (Rasmussen) @ 5.86
9 77.7% PANIYA (Behar) + 22.3% Yakut (HGDP) @ 5.87
10 81.3% PANIYA (Behar) + 18.7% Nganassan (Rasmussen) @ 5.91
11 70.8% PANIYA (Behar) + 29.2% Buryat (Rasmussen) @ 5.98
12 62.3% Khasi (Chaubey) + 37.7% Mongola (HGDP) @ 6.19
13 64.1% Khasi (Chaubey) + 35.9% Xibo (HGDP) @ 6.4
14 87.2% Burmanese (Chaubey) + 12.8% Selkup (Rasmussen) @ 6.62
15 86.3% Garo (Chaubey) + 13.7% Selkup (Rasmussen) @ 6.78
16 87.4% Burmanese (Chaubey) + 12.6% Ket (Rasmussen) @ 6.83
17 68% Khasi (Chaubey) + 32% Hezhen (HGDP) @ 6.87
18 80% Garo (Chaubey) + 20% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.92
19 71.9% Tu (HGDP) + 28.1% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 6.93
20 72.1% Tu (HGDP) + 27.9% Savara (Chaubey) @ 6.95


Kit M978267

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 59.11
2 South_Asian 20.06
3 Siberian 16.71
4 Atlantic_Baltic 2.25
5 African 1.27
6 West_Asian 0.6

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Burmanese (Chaubey) 8.37
2 Garo (Chaubey) 8.63
3 Khasi (Chaubey) 17.52
4 Tu (HGDP) 20.74
5 PANIYA (Behar) 21.08
6 Naga (Metspalu) 22.51
7 Naxi (HGDP) 24.12
8 Yizu (HGDP) 24.46
9 Japanese (Dodecad) 25.42
10 Japanese (HGDP) 25.42
11 JPT30 (Behar) 25.44
12 Mongola (HGDP) 25.61
13 Korean (Dodecad) 25.71
14 Cambodians (HGDP) 27.71
15 Xibo (HGDP) 27.74
16 MAS30 (SGVP) 29.25
17 CHB30 (Metspalu) 30.46
18 Chinese (Dodecad) 30.78
19 Hezhen (HGDP) 33.15
20 Tujia (HGDP) 33.51

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.1% PANIYA (Behar) + 18.9% Evenk (Rasmussen) @ 0.72
2 80.6% PANIYA (Behar) + 19.4% Yukagir (Rasmussen) @ 0.74
3 80.1% PANIYA (Behar) + 19.9% Yakut (HGDP) @ 0.8
4 83.2% PANIYA (Behar) + 16.8% Nganassan (Rasmussen) @ 1.05
5 80.2% PANIYA (Behar) + 19.8% Dolgan (Rasmussen) @ 1.75
6 73.9% PANIYA (Behar) + 26.1% Buryat (Rasmussen) @ 1.78
7 74.3% PANIYA (Behar) + 25.7% Tuva (Rasmussen) @ 2.07
8 90.7% Garo (Chaubey) + 9.3% Selkup (Rasmussen) @ 2.25
9 90.9% Garo (Chaubey) + 9.1% Ket (Rasmussen) @ 2.44
10 76.7% Naxi (HGDP) + 23.3% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 2.89
11 75.3% Naxi (HGDP) + 24.7% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 2.91
12 59.4% Khasi (Chaubey) + 40.6% Japanese (Dodecad) @ 2.95
13 77.4% Naxi (HGDP) + 22.6% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 2.98
14 87.4% Garo (Chaubey) + 12.6% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 2.99
15 76.5% Yizu (HGDP) + 23.5% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 3.21
16 59.4% Khasi (Chaubey) + 40.6% Japanese (HGDP) @ 3.23
17 77.1% Yizu (HGDP) + 22.9% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 3.24
18 75.1% Naxi (HGDP) + 24.9% Gond (Metspalu) @ 3.35
19 59.5% Khasi (Chaubey) + 40.5% JPT30 (Behar) @ 3.37
20 75% Yizu (HGDP) + 25% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 3.37

[Adamastor]

Genetic purity doesn't exist, but regardless, if you look at at a PCA plot of world populations it actually matches pretty well with the Caucasoid-Mongoloid-Negroid-Australoid division.

More or less, but at which point these groups became what they are now is controversial. And of course a lot of things have changed since we discovered that many populations weren't what we thought they were.


Hmm, it doesn't say that the Ainu are genetically Austroloids or South Eurasians:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people#Autosomal_DNA

Wikipedia is thrash. Where do you think their South Asian comes from? Mars? I've seen results of people from Hokkaido with up to 20% South Asian. Pure Jomon were probably even more. South Asian in Dodecad is almost totally South Eurasian.

[Kamal900]

Genetic purity doesn't exist, but regardless, if you look at at a PCA plot of world populations it actually matches pretty well with the Caucasoid-Mongoloid-Negroid-Australoid division.

And with genetics, we can even determine when did these races split off from each other. While Caucasoid groups like Europeans and others split from one another during the early neolithic period, Blacks today split from the rest of humanity as early as 150,000 years ago if not earlier despite on the fact that the modern racial phenotype of Blacks did not exist until between 10,000 to 8,000 years ago where paleontologists had found the oldest Negroid skull was in today's Nigeria. The oldest known race war in history was a war between early Caucasoid ancestors of Europeans and and MENAs and the ancestors of modern day Blacks.


Work carried out at Liverpool John Moores University, the University of Alaska and New Orleans’ Tulane University indicates that they were part of the general sub-Saharan originating population – the ancestors of modern Black Africans.

The identity of their killers is however less easy to determine. But it is conceivable that they were people from a totally different racial and ethnic group – part of a North African/ Levantine/European people who lived around much of the Mediterranean Basin.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/saharan-remains-may-be-evidence-of-first-race-war-13000-years-ago-9603632.html

[Kamal900]

More or less, but at which point these groups became what they are now is controversial. And of course a lot of things have changed since we discovered that many populations weren't what we thought they were.



Wikipedia is thrash. Where do you think their South Asian comes from? Mars? I've seen results of people from Hokkaido with up to 20% South Asian. Pure Jomon were probably even more. South Asian in Dodecad is almost totally South Eurasian.

Maybe you need to read the article that had sources backing it up that you can read for yourself. The South Asian admixture in them could be an indication of long contacts with South Asia in ancient times rather than proving that they are racially different from other Mongoloids of Asia. Even the Tibeto-Burmese peoples also have South Asian admixture as well.

[Adamastor]

Maybe you need to read the article that had sources backing it up that you can read for yourself. The South Asian admixture in them could be an indication of long contacts with South Asia in ancient times rather than proving that they are racially different from other Mongoloids of Asia. Even the Tibeto-Burmese peoples also have South Asian admixture as well.

Which article? Some pseudo-scientifc stuff written by a ''journalist'' that isn't even knowledgeable about genetics? That ''study'' is so contradictory with what you wrote that it's risible. How the race war between ''blacks'' and ''caucasoids'' happened when Black phenotype didn't even existed? Actually we now know Sub-Saharan groups have basal Eurasian ancestry, or rather basal Eurasians were kind of SSA-like.

[Latinus]

you'd be surprised but there are pseudo korean/japanese looking people in NE india. Many northeast indians, tibetans, bhutanese, nepalis have similarities with northeast asians like koreans, japanese, northern chinese.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFxcUC9QlTI&t=240s

Damn, I wasn't aware of pseudo East Asian people in NE India, she looks extremely Korean!

[Leto]

Even if it's more complicated then that, these groups as defined by physical anthropology still all genetically cluster closer to each other than anything else.


Yeah, but Caucasoids or West-Eurasians are genetically the most similar to one another which includes Europeans and MENA's.
Yes, I've always said that intra-Caucasoid mixes usually look like either side but not undoubtedly mixed-race like Negroid-Europoid or Mongoloid-Europoid ones.
Daniel Brückner is half Algerian half German and looks absolutely Caucasoid
https://alchetron.com/cdn/daniel-brckner-2824a9eb-9bba-4d37-843f-9d7ea57c970-resize-750.jpeg

These racial terms are indeed very broad and people from the opposite sides of the spectrum don't look alike at all (Swedes vs. Assyrians for example) (not to mention huge cultural and mentality differences) but I still think they are valid in a number of cases.

[SharpFork]

yup youre right, almost all of it is yayoi. with maybe 5-10% max jomon influence among some individuals.

You sure it's only 5-10%? It seems ridiculously low considering there were non Japanese groups in Japan even in the second millennium AFAIK like the Emishi.

[Catarinense1998]

Interesting. So, japanese are just koreans with a bit of south asian admixture. This is why they look quite the same.

[Leto]

Interesting. So, japanese are just koreans with a bit of south asian admixture. This is why they look quite the same.
I don't think most Japs show any South Asian.

[Daos777]

I don't think most Japs show any South Asian.

How much south Asian do Iranians show on average?

[Leto]

How much south Asian do Iranians show on average?
Depends on the calculator. Usually 8-10% on Eurogenes K13/15, some can reach 15%. On Harappa and Dodecad K12b they get much less, 5% or less, I believe.

[Thambi]

I don't think most Japs show any South Asian.

On harappa, many japanese get 1-2% south indian. Its negligible but still there. I actually dont see any koreans getting any south asian but its not the case for japanese.

[Leto]

On harappa, many japanese get 1-2% south indian. Its negligible but still there. I actually dont see any koreans getting any south asian but its not the case for japanese.
I thought the Japanese were 100 percent Mongoloid, lol

[Rgvgjhvv]

Damn, I wasn't aware of pseudo East Asian people in NE India, she looks extremely Korean!

I can confirm.