Classify Iraqi, Persian and Pakistani

[21993]

https://i.imgflip.com/3eb3lw.gif
Full video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNMaht4osl4

[Bakha]

Asiatic alpine
Iranid + indo brachid
Nord indid / iranid + armenoid

[lameduck]

Iraqi is Asiatic Alpine

Iranian is gracile iranid

Paki is Nord Indid/gracile indid

[Kyp]

Iraqi girl is cute : Asiatic Alpine
Iranid, gracile version
North Indid

[Oghuz]

among crowds from three countries ... these three people are atypical in their respective nations.

[21993]

among crowds from three countries ... these three people are atypical in their respective nations.

I agree except for the Persian guy. In myopinion he looks Irano-Afghan and not that typical for Southern, Central and Eastern Iranians.

[Kyp]

I agree except for the Persian guy. In myopinion he looks Irano-Afghan and not that typical for Southern, Central and Eastern Iranians.

We don't know where he is from he once stated that he's from Teheran but his parents aren't, yet he didnt want to say where they're from

[Oghuz]

I agree except for the Persian guy. In myopinion he looks Irano-Afghan and not that typical for Southern, Central and Eastern Iranians.

Try fitting him in these crowds from all over Iran. Focus on the length of skull, nasal index and soft tissue proportions.

https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/OkwSYVdBSDIHdSDjQ478.Q--~B/aD02ODA7dz0xMDI0O3NtPTE7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/Part-PAR-SAPA981202030500-1-0-1.jpg
https://ak5.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/5388035/thumb/8.jpg
https://th.thgim.com/news/international/73v986/article26235793.ece/alternates/FREE_660/IRANREVOLUTIONANNIVERSARYTIMELINE
https://thearabweekly.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image_800x450_/public/2018-07/A1101.jpg
https://gdb.rferl.org/F0D04EF4-8BD5-43E0-AC58-B0CAE44D5916_w1023_r1_s.jpg
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b175ee76dcad2cd3b945504e34efe3c0
https://ak3.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/5387693/thumb/1.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Farewell_to_Body_of_Martyr_Mohsen_Hojaji_in_Mashha d_04_%282%29.jpg
https://gdb.rferl.org/508179B3-5381-4E39-9040-252EAC54A2F5_w408_r1_s.jpg
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/D979/production/_100237655_gettyimages-695311082.jpg
https://chrislettner.com/wp-content/uploads/iran-6700.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/946360222309928960/pu/img/m7EdoLu3RQRz9TVT.jpg

[lameduck]

among crowds from three countries ... these three people are atypical in their respective nations.

Girl fit the variations of Pak Punjabis,Pak Punjabis are not a stable near eastern west eurasian population. They have variation along cast,tribe ,social class,religion ,origin lines,if one look like one way ,other don't look that way,yes many paki Punjabis don't look like her but many also look like her(if that makes sense)

E.g here is an event from Central Punjab in Pakistan


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zmQGoB3oqX0

[Oghuz]

Girl fit the variations of Pak Punjabis,Pak Punjabis are not a stable near eastern west eurasian population. They have variation along cast,tribe ,social class,religion ,origin lines,if one look like one way ,other don't look that way,yes many paki Punjabis don't look like her but many also look like her(if that makes sense)

E.g here is an event from Central Punjab in Pakistan


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zmQGoB3oqX0

My statement was based upon crowd pics I have seen. Off-course you know your people better than me so you may be correct.

[21993]

We don't know where he is from he once stated that he's from Teheran but his parents aren't, yet he didnt want to say where they're from


Try fitting him in these crowds from all over Iran. Focus on the length of skull, nasal index and soft tissue proportions.

https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/OkwSYVdBSDIHdSDjQ478.Q--~B/aD02ODA7dz0xMDI0O3NtPTE7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/Part-PAR-SAPA981202030500-1-0-1.jpg
https://ak5.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/5388035/thumb/8.jpg
https://th.thgim.com/news/international/73v986/article26235793.ece/alternates/FREE_660/IRANREVOLUTIONANNIVERSARYTIMELINE
https://thearabweekly.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image_800x450_/public/2018-07/A1101.jpg
https://gdb.rferl.org/F0D04EF4-8BD5-43E0-AC58-B0CAE44D5916_w1023_r1_s.jpg
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b175ee76dcad2cd3b945504e34efe3c0
https://ak3.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/5387693/thumb/1.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Farewell_to_Body_of_Martyr_Mohsen_Hojaji_in_Mashha d_04_%282%29.jpg
https://gdb.rferl.org/508179B3-5381-4E39-9040-252EAC54A2F5_w408_r1_s.jpg
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/D979/production/_100237655_gettyimages-695311082.jpg
https://chrislettner.com/wp-content/uploads/iran-6700.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/946360222309928960/pu/img/m7EdoLu3RQRz9TVT.jpg

His DNA results are typical for a Northern Iranian in my opinion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgNA79RXKKg Starts at 2:00

[Thambi]

AA
East Iranid
NI/GI + AA

the iranian guy looks eastern shifed imo.

[Kyp]

Try fitting him in these crowds from all over Iran. Focus on the length of skull, nasal index and soft tissue proportions.


I think he fits with Persians. Not the most typical one but still..

[21993]

AA
East Iranid
NI/GI + AA

the iranian guy looks eastern shifed imo.

I agree that Iranian guy looks eastern shifted but his DNA results seem northern shifted I guess. Starts at 2:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgNA79RXKKg

[Oghuz]

I agree that Iranian guy looks eastern shifted but his DNA results seem northern shifted I guess. Starts at 2:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgNA79RXKKg

Geno and pheno doesn't have to match. Some time ago someone here posted an indian man with highest % steppe MLBA and he looked like a Bangladesh migrant in UAE.

[Kyp]

His DNA results are typical for a Northern Iranian in my opinion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgNA79RXKKg Starts at 2:00

Typical Central Persian result yes. (Northern Iranians like Azeri, Gilakis, Mazandaranis, Turkmen..) score a bit different
Interesting she scores more southasian than him. She is east iranian with minor turkmen influence and he is west/central iranian it seems.
I think @lameduck is right he is just a gracile Iranid

[lameduck]

My statement was based upon crowd pics I have seen. Off-course you know your people better than me so you may be correct.

In Pakistan you get mostly bearded mullahs protesting on streets lol but on more specialized searches you can see other angles of diversity as well e.g Pakistan cricket fans

https://www.google.com/search?q=pakistan+cricket+fans&safe=off&client=ms-android-huawei&prmd=inv&sxsrf=ACYBGNS2zRPgZZ0hFMKuYD_AfWfVkMbFHg:157199378 5767&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjs_MGZhbflAhULhlwKHbPnCnUQ_AUoAXoECA4QA Q&cshid=1571994003925&biw=360&bih=600


Pak Punjab University students search
https://www.google.com/search?q=pakistan+punjab+university+students&safe=off&client=ms-android-huawei&prmd=ivn&sxsrf=ACYBGNSbECYvSNNv8MQoWIlLgVuwyfFjew:157199405 9848&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjPwpqchrflAhXTgVwKHUe2AxcQ_AUoAXoECA8QA Q&biw=360&bih=600&dpr=3

[Thambi]

I agree that Iranian guy looks eastern shifted but his DNA results seem northern shifted I guess. Starts at 2:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgNA79RXKKg

yeah i've seen their results before. I'm not surprised by her results and her 5% central/northern asian but he gets 70% iranian and over quarter caucasus shift.

[21993]

Geno and pheno doesn't have to match. Some time ago someone here posted an indian man with highest % steppe MLBA and he looked like a Bangladesh migrant in UAE.

I agree, phenotype and genotype doesn’t always match but I think the guy still looks Irano-Afghan.

[Oghuz]

I think he fits with Persians. Not the most typical one but still..

Real Persians are supposed to be Iranid proper and this mans phenotype is not iranid. Crowds I posted are mostly Persians and Azeris. Persians, Lurs, Kurds are supposed to be more progressive skulled than Azeris who get altered by Caucasus mixing. IMO he will fit best among atypical most Turkmens of Caspian. His soft tissue proportions are very different but cranial measurements are still somewhat Iranic (meso to doli head and smaller mandibular angle).

[Oghuz]

In Pakistan you get mostly bearded mullahs protesting on streets lol but on more specialized searches you can see other angles of diversity as well e.g Pakistan cricket fans

https://www.google.com/search?q=pakistan+cricket+fans&safe=off&client=ms-android-huawei&prmd=inv&sxsrf=ACYBGNS2zRPgZZ0hFMKuYD_AfWfVkMbFHg:157199378 5767&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjs_MGZhbflAhULhlwKHbPnCnUQ_AUoAXoECA4QA Q&cshid=1571994003925&biw=360&bih=600


Pak Punjab University students search
https://www.google.com/search?q=pakistan+punjab+university+students&safe=off&client=ms-android-huawei&prmd=ivn&sxsrf=ACYBGNSbECYvSNNv8MQoWIlLgVuwyfFjew:157199405 9848&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjPwpqchrflAhXTgVwKHUe2AxcQ_AUoAXoECA8QA Q&biw=360&bih=600&dpr=3

Nice

[Thambi]

We don't know where he is from he once stated that he's from Teheran but his parents aren't, yet he didnt want to say where they're from

he's half azeri surprisingly. His wife is from Tabriz which is predominantly Azeri ethnically speaking but he doesnt mention that she's part azeri or something. neither does she but im not sure

Shahrzad = Tabriz(dad), Mashhad (mom)
Bahador = Hamedan (Azeri dad) and Qom (mom)

this is what he said in the comments section on his dna results video.
https://i.imgur.com/70yhqG8.png

[Negah]

he's half azeri surprisingly. His wife is from Tabriz which is predominantly Azeri ethnically speaking but he doesnt mention that she's part azeri or something. neither does she but im not sure

Shahrzad = Tabriz(dad), Mashhad (mom)
Bahador = Hamedan (Azeri dad) and Qom (mom)

this is what he said in the comments section on his dna results video.
https://i.imgur.com/70yhqG8.png


They are both half Azeri and Persian. Nice looking couple.

IMO the three people fit their respective countries rather well. Bahador may not be the most typical Iranian, he still looks very Iranian to me. Same thing about the Pakistani girl, I would not guess her as anything but Punjabi/Pakistani . The Iraqi girl can easily pass in Iran.

[lameduck]

some pictures from Pak Punjab

https://as1.ftcdn.net/jpg/01/51/05/90/500_F_151059060_tHuKKu0paXJIFqqb2Z6BwuOyK7JxBeCv.j pg

https://i.dawn.com/primary/2017/10/59f62c5f2bdfa.jpg

http://i.dawn.com/2013/04/chairman-pakistan-tehreek-e-insaaf-pti-imran-khan-murree-5.jpg

https://as2.ftcdn.net/jpg/01/47/56/87/500_F_147568741_DO790RfiZ1eM1FOmlBB1qS6tBaH22cR5.j pg

https://i.imgur.com/jVwkz0Y.png

https://i.imgur.com/Uk1oRcK.png

Pak Pashtun pictures

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ahAzS0JeBtg/Sd8w2Q6E9OI/AAAAAAAAAFI/2hIKCFqUdtE/s1600-h/zama+swat+navid.JPG
https://www.tnn.com.pk/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/bajour-go-fcr-go-raly-pic.jpg
https://i.dawn.com/primary/2019/08/5d59ba2a9c85a.jpg

[Negah]

^^ lameduck I know you are Pakistani but what is your ethnicity

[Ylla]

I think the first girl (in black) could pass as Balkan

[Kyp]

They are both half Azeri and Persian. Nice looking couple.

IMO the three people fit their respective countries rather well. Bahador may not be the most typical Iranian, he still looks very Iranian to me. Same thing about the Pakistani girl, I would not guess her as anything but Punjabi/Pakistani . The Iraqi girl can easily pass in Iran.

He scores 0% Central Asian his Azeri side must be very diluted, that's probably why he isn't associating with it more.

[Negah]

He scores 0% Central Asian his Azeri side must be very diluted, that's probably why he isn't associating with it more.

what do you mean by not associating more? So if he had more central Asian he would be associating more with azeris? Is that what you are implying?

[Kyp]

what do you mean by not associating more? So if he had more central Asian he would be associating more with azeris? Is that what you are implying?

He never mentioned to have anything to do with Azeris despite it being such a frequent topic in his videos.
Also in iran you can be Azeri with 1/26 ancestors being actually Azeri.

[Negah]

He never mentioned to have anything to do with Azeris despite it being such a frequent topic in his videos.

You should ask him why he doesn't. But that does not change the fact his father is an Azerbaijani from Hamadan. Also, ethnic identity in Iran is different than western standards.

My impression from his videos is that he tries to show the similarities between different groups.

[Kyp]

You should ask him why he doesn't. But that does not change the fact his father is an Azerbaijani from Hamadan.

My impression from his videos is that he tries to show the similarities between different groups.

Good for him.

[Negah]

Also in iran you can be Azeri with 1/26 ancestors being actually Azeri.

What do you mean by actual Azeri? 1/26 ancestors? Explain? I am confused.

[Kyp]

What do you mean by actual Azeri? 1/26 ancestors? Explain? I am confused.

If your father is Azeri you are Azeri by Iranian standards/culture I think you know that. If your father is iranian you're iranian and so on..

There is being Azeri. And having the majority of your ancestry from NW Iran/Azerbaijan. Two different things.

[Negah]

There is being Azeri. And having the majority of your ancestry from NW Iran/Azerbaijan. Two different things.

I see what you are saying now. You are talking about regions of Iran. I was all confused.

Back to your point. Hamadan is west Iran, not northwest Iran. He is half Hamadani (west Iranian) and half Qomi (Central Iranian).

His wife is half Tabrizi ( northwest Iranian) and half Mashadi (northeast Iranian).

[Kyp]

I see what you are saying now. You are talking about regions of Iran. I was all confused.

Back to your point. Hamadan is west Iran not northwest Iran. He is half Hamadani (west Iranian) and half Qomi (Central Iranian).

His wife is half Tabriz ( northwest Iranian) and half Mashadi (northeast Iranian).

I think my stands on the issue of iranian ethnic groups are very western influenced aswell.

[xtal]

Damn that Iraqi girl looks so good! She almost looks Circassian

[Babak]

Lol at these "Half tehrani" and " half tabrizi" shit. Iranians are all the same shit lmao

[Kamal900]

If your father is Azeri you are Azeri by Iranian standards/culture I think you know that. If your father is iranian you're iranian and so on..

There is being Azeri. And having the majority of your ancestry from NW Iran/Azerbaijan. Two different things.

Same thing in the Arab world too. If your father was an Arab then you're an Arab.

[Avicenna]

Lol at these "Half tehrani" and " half tabrizi" shit. Iranians are all the same shit lmao

Innit haha