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Leto
11-01-2019, 07:01 PM
Found this one in my lists of kits and thought it might be interesting to some you guys

From the province of Ascoli Piceno (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Ascoli_Piceno), Marche

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.14
2 North_Atlantic 22.34
3 West_Med 21.93
4 West_Asian 11.88
5 Baltic 10.93
6 Red_Sea 5.03
7 Northeast_African 0.7
8 Amerindian 0.63
9 Siberian 0.42

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Abruzzo 4
2 West_Sicilian 4.33
3 Tuscan 5.62
4 Greek_Thessaly 5.97
5 Central_Greek 6.38
6 East_Sicilian 6.76
7 South_Italian 8.71
8 Ashkenazi 10.25
9 North_Italian 11.58
10 Bulgarian 13.57
11 Sephardic_Jewish 14.26
12 Italian_Jewish 14.32
13 Algerian_Jewish 14.8
14 Romanian 14.93
15 Tunisian_Jewish 18.53
16 Serbian 18.72
17 Libyan_Jewish 18.97
18 Spanish_Extremadura 19.54
19 Portuguese 19.69
20 Spanish_Andalucia 20.54

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.8% Central_Greek + 22.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.34
2 75.9% Central_Greek + 24.1% Portuguese @ 1.35
3 76.9% Central_Greek + 23.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.46
4 77.1% Central_Greek + 22.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 1.55
5 53.4% Tuscan + 46.6% Central_Greek @ 1.63
6 75.9% Central_Greek + 24.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.64
7 78% Central_Greek + 22% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.67
8 78.4% East_Sicilian + 21.6% French @ 1.68
9 63.6% East_Sicilian + 36.4% North_Italian @ 1.71
10 65.1% Central_Greek + 34.9% North_Italian @ 1.76
11 77.6% Central_Greek + 22.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.77
12 78.5% Central_Greek + 21.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.78
13 77.1% East_Sicilian + 22.9% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.84
14 79.1% West_Sicilian + 20.9% Romanian @ 1.86
15 80% Central_Greek + 20% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.87
16 80.5% Central_Greek + 19.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.95
17 80.1% East_Sicilian + 19.9% Southwest_French @ 1.99
18 55.1% Tuscan + 44.9% East_Sicilian @ 2
19 82.9% West_Sicilian + 17.1% Serbian @ 2.01
20 81.1% Central_Greek + 18.9% Southwest_French @ 2.02


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.15
2 West_Med 18.46
3 North_Sea 15.62
4 Atlantic 14.26
5 West_Asian 12.16
6 Baltic 7.95
7 Red_Sea 5.23
8 Eastern_Euro 1.71
9 Northeast_African 0.74
10 Amerindian 0.41
11 Siberian 0.31

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 5.48
2 Italian_Abruzzo 6.1
3 Tuscan 6.21
4 East_Sicilian 6.82
5 Central_Greek 6.91
6 West_Sicilian 7.77
7 Ashkenazi 8.54
8 Greek 8.57
9 South_Italian 9.04
10 North_Italian 11.78
11 Italian_Jewish 12.73
12 Bulgarian 12.83
13 Romanian 14.07
14 Sephardic_Jewish 14.44
15 Algerian_Jewish 14.69
16 Serbian 16.77
17 Tunisian_Jewish 18.45
18 Portuguese 18.52
19 Libyan_Jewish 18.61
20 Spanish_Extremadura 18.72

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.3% South_Italian + 25.7% West_German @ 2.98
2 80.3% East_Sicilian + 19.7% West_German @ 3.1
3 75.2% Central_Greek + 24.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.2
4 78.4% East_Sicilian + 21.6% French @ 3.3
5 80.7% South_Italian + 19.3% West_Norwegian @ 3.3
6 80% South_Italian + 20% Norwegian @ 3.32
7 80% South_Italian + 20% Swedish @ 3.35
8 85.6% East_Sicilian + 14.4% West_Norwegian @ 3.38
9 83.5% East_Sicilian + 16.5% Southwest_English @ 3.41
10 85.2% East_Sicilian + 14.8% Norwegian @ 3.49
11 54.9% Greek_Thessaly + 45.1% Tuscan @ 3.52
12 78.4% Central_Greek + 21.6% French @ 3.54
13 72.2% South_Italian + 27.8% French @ 3.54
14 85.3% East_Sicilian + 14.7% Swedish @ 3.57
15 84.7% East_Sicilian + 15.3% North_Dutch @ 3.58
16 85.3% East_Sicilian + 14.7% Orcadian @ 3.58
17 76.1% East_Sicilian + 23.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.6
18 75.5% Central_Greek + 24.5% Portuguese @ 3.6
19 79.5% South_Italian + 20.5% North_Dutch @ 3.64
20 84.2% East_Sicilian + 15.8% Southeast_English @ 3.64


Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.21
2 Atlantic_Med 29.99
3 North_European 18.84
4 Southwest_Asian 9.97
5 Gedrosia 5.64
6 Northwest_African 2.15
7 East_African 0.53
8 East_Asian 0.33
9 Siberian 0.26
10 Southeast_Asian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 C_Italian (Dodecad) 5.05
2 Greek (Dodecad) 5.76
3 O_Italian (Dodecad) 5.97
4 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 7.9
5 Sicilian (Dodecad) 7.94
6 Tuscan (HGDP) 8.27
7 TSI30 (Metspalu) 9.28
8 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 10.15
9 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 10.16
10 N_Italian (Dodecad) 14.73
11 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 14.93
12 North_Italian (HGDP) 16.34
13 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 16.46
14 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 16.6
15 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 16.7
16 Romanians (Behar) 17.64
17 Cypriots (Behar) 23.14
18 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.4
19 Baleares (1000Genomes) 24.98
20 Turks (Behar) 25.95

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 18.5% German (Dodecad) @ 1.11
2 80.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 19.9% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.14
3 63.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 36.7% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.19
4 85.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 14.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.35
5 63.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 36.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.41
6 81.6% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 18.4% German (Dodecad) @ 1.56
7 84.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 15.8% Druze (HGDP) @ 1.61
8 85.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 14.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 1.64
9 80.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 19.9% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.72
10 80.2% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 19.8% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.72
11 85.4% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 14.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.76
12 86.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 13.7% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.83
13 85.4% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 14.6% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2
14 85.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 14.2% Polish (Dodecad) @ 2.08
15 57.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 42.9% French (HGDP) @ 2.11
16 75.6% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 24.4% French (HGDP) @ 2.14
17 79.5% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 20.5% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.21
18 83.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.9% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.23
19 82.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 17.8% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.25
20 83% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 17% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.26


MDLP K23b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 38.71
2 European_Early_Farmers 26.23
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 13.65
4 Near_East 9.24
5 North_African 3.64
6 South_Central_Asian 3.55
7 East_African 1.31
8 East_Siberian 1.28
9 Ancestral_Altaic 1
10 Amerindian 0.8
11 Melano_Polynesian 0.35
12 South_East_Asian 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 4.04
2 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 4.13
3 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 4.24
4 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 4.75
5 Kosovar ( ) 5.02
6 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 5.34
7 Ashkenazi ( ) 5.43
8 Sicilian_East ( ) 5.71
9 Greek_Northwest ( ) 5.82
10 Central_Greek ( ) 6.01
11 Sicilian_Center ( ) 6.2
12 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 6.61
13 Romanian_Jew ( ) 6.98
14 French_Jew ( ) 7.08
15 Italian_Abruzzo ( ) 7.72
16 Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 7.78
17 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 7.85
18 Italian_Jew ( ) 8.65
19 Greek_Athens ( ) 8.69
20 Sicilian_West ( ) 8.75

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.6% Greek ( ) + 13.4% Sardinian ( ) @ 1.98
2 54% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) + 46% Italian_South ( ) @ 1.98
3 57.4% Italian_South ( ) + 42.6% Italian_Tuscan ( ) @ 1.98
4 62.2% Italian_South ( ) + 37.8% Italian_Piedmont ( ) @ 2.04
5 53.2% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) + 46.8% Greek_Athens ( ) @ 2.16
6 78.3% Italian_South ( ) + 21.7% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) @ 2.18
7 83.7% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 16.3% Sardinian ( ) @ 2.21
8 86% Italian_South ( ) + 14% French_South ( ) @ 2.23
9 71.7% Italian_South ( ) + 28.3% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 2.25
10 88.6% Italian_South ( ) + 11.4% Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( ) @ 2.25
11 63.2% Greek_Athens ( ) + 36.8% Italian_Piedmont ( ) @ 2.28
12 89.9% Italian_South ( ) + 10.1% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 2.29
13 90.2% Italian_South ( ) + 9.8% Basque_French ( ) @ 2.29
14 58.3% Greek_Athens ( ) + 41.7% Italian_Tuscan ( ) @ 2.29
15 53.8% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) + 46.2% Greek ( ) @ 2.31
16 84.3% Italian_South ( ) + 15.7% Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS ( ) @ 2.32
17 84.8% Italian_South ( ) + 15.2% Spanish_Cantabria_IBS ( ) @ 2.33
18 56.2% Sicilian_Center ( ) + 43.8% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) @ 2.34
19 84.9% Italian_South ( ) + 15.1% Spanish_Aragon_IBS ( ) @ 2.34
20 62.7% Greek ( ) + 37.3% Italian_Piedmont ( ) @ 2.34


Eurogenes K36:

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 1.51 Pct
Armenian 6.51 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.81 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.83 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 4.69 Pct
East_Med 11.83 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 6.34 Pct
Iberian 12.74 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 17.50 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 12.37 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 4.01 Pct
North_Caucasian 6.55 Pct
North_Sea 2.87 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.78 Pct
West_Med 6.65 Pct

Adamastor
11-01-2019, 07:07 PM
These guys are truly Med, for comparison my first two main components on K13 and K15 are North_Atlantic and Atlantic. They got West Med and East Med in the first in two positions. Central/South Italians, Greeks and Albanians are really the most Mediterranean Europeans.

Samnium
11-01-2019, 07:08 PM
Marche seems to be more S. shifted than Tuscans (not only on gedmatch results but also other studies)

Enr1989
11-01-2019, 07:12 PM
I think the real Italic people are the one from Central Italy, the south is linked more with the East Mediterranean area and the North with the other side of the Alps.

Samnium
11-01-2019, 07:14 PM
I think the real Italic people are the one from Central Italy, the south is linked more with the East Mediterranean area and the North with the other side of the Alps.

True to a certain extent because you know the East Med continuum begin somewhere in Central Italy. N.Italians are southwestern/western people.

Enr1989
11-01-2019, 07:28 PM
True to a certain extent because you know the East Med continuum begin somewhere in Central Italy. N.Italians are southwestern/western people.

I meant there is a kind of "Italic" aesthetic that u find manly in central Italy that is very peculiar

Samnium
11-01-2019, 07:28 PM
I meant there is a kind of "Italic" aesthetic that u find manly in central Italy that is very peculiar

Totally agree.

Leto
11-01-2019, 07:38 PM
So this person is a pure italic? I have no idea myself.

Samnium
11-01-2019, 07:48 PM
So this person is a pure italic? I have no idea myself.

There is no such thing as pure "italic", the Proto-Italic tribes "mixed" with Neolithic people thousands of years ago.

Vid Flumina
11-01-2019, 07:50 PM
Iron Age Picene genomes about to be published and they're going to be quite different

Samnium
11-01-2019, 07:52 PM
Iron Age Picene genomes about to be published and they're going to be quite different

Ancient Italic samples I presume ?

Vid Flumina
11-01-2019, 07:56 PM
Ancient Italic samples I presume ?

Yes, it's a matter of weeks according to rumors

Adamastor
11-01-2019, 07:58 PM
Iron Age Picene genomes about to be published and they're going to be quite different

They will be like modern Tyroleans.

Samnium
11-01-2019, 08:02 PM
They will be like modern Tyroleans.

"Southern" Central Europe I think definitely like you said.

It's also possible that they will be a little bit more northern shifted, don't know really. What we are probably sure : they aren't scando as claimed by Nordicists.