Classify Turks from Sakarya province and where they could fit better?

[Kivan]

What's the main types among them and where could they fit in?
I only used crowd/group photos of ordinary people, so no cherry picking.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUvTfZPY7Dw&t=225s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df_TyPXKHMw


https://www.asbu.edu.tr/sites/anasayfa.asbu.edu.tr/files/styles/buyu/public/2018-10/2_6.JPG?itok=x7GLot9N
http://panel.dogakoleji.k12.tr/dogakoleji_depo//Images/okul_user/SAKARYADOGA/IMG-20160411-WA0028_2016700.jpg
http://www.spor264.com/Content/img/-9a483991-a81e-40f8-ad70-8b75d322bccc.jpg
http://panel.dogakoleji.k12.tr/dogakoleji_depo/Images/okul_user/SAKARYADOGA/IMG-20160411-WA0105_201613.jpg
http://panel.dogakoleji.k12.tr/dogakoleji_depo//Images/haberler/basketbol/sakarya_doga/sakarya-doga-koleji-basketbol-sampiyonlugu%20(2)_2017860.jpg
http://www.arifiyehaber.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/AK-KADINLAR-MUSIAD-01.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WMKqFzXMJJE/maxresdefault.jpg
http://www.turkkadinlarbirligi.org/view/userfile/8%20ekim14ac7401085.jpg
http://www.turkkadinlarbirligi.org/view/userfile/hava1.jpg
http://serdivan.meb.gov.tr/meb_iys_dosyalar/2019_03/15162745_b.jpg
https://www.sakaryarehberim.com/pictures/ozelslayt/resim41079.jpg
http://www.medyadetay.com/images/haberler/2018/09/bahcesehir_koleji_sakaryada_ilk_ders_zilini_caldi_ h70375_a16e0.jpg
http://sakarya.gsb.gov.tr/Public/Images/IM/Sakarya/01204/1_201.jpg
http://www.sakaryabasket.com/wp-content/uploads/isik1.jpg
http://img-milliyet.mncdn.com/LocalArticle606x304/2019/01/29/fft261_mf32498436.Jpeg
https://i.dunya.com/1/670/377/files/2019/6/28/448712/448712.jpg?v=1561721205
https://www.kocaelizirve.com/upload/images//174426.jpg
https://static.daktilo.com/sites/74/uploads/2018/09/06/attachment-93881-0-34bdd27428cd4a38fa78f7397f6ab11f-1536224110.jpeg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcBKr6fWAAAWZYO.jpg
https://foto.sondakika.com/haber/2019/07/16/15-temmuz-darbe-tesebbusu-3-yilinda-sakarya-d-12248351_amp.jpg
https://img.sondakika.com/haber/165/universitedeki-mustafa-ceceli-konserinde-firt-7285165_x_o.jpg
http://sakarya.gsb.gov.tr/Public/Images/IM/Sakarya/01204/c9iexsiw0aaoov2.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Lre8ofb8o0Q/hqdefault.jpg
http://www.sakaryayenigun.com.tr/resimler/haberler/d_73f9bb5ac8ffee1ed9f14b04f0af6e4f.jpg
https://www.udef.org.tr/media/gallery/gallery/b1853.jpg
https://haberlutfen.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/sakaryada-gencler-iftar-sofrasinda-bulustu_d092b63.jpg
http://www.sakaryayenigun.com.tr/resimler/haberler/d_34bff6bd5995f497dc2e858879e88541.jpg
http://www.sakaryabarosu.org.tr/upload/haber/890/b435a27f15.jpg
http://sakarya.gsb.gov.tr/Public/Images/IM/Sakarya/01204/aticilik_30-01-2018_002.jpg
http://www.coknethaber.com/images/haberler/AZ11.jpg

[Kamal900]

South-Eastern Europe like Greece and Southern Italy. Few of them can pass in the Levant but that's about it.

[Dna8]

They only pass in West Asia and Europe, in my opinion - and they are recognizably West Asian, rather than European.

[Kyp]

At first I voted for Europe, but after second look they can only pass in West Asia as a whole.,
Overall I would say intermediate between Balkan and West Asia but with a distinctive look.

[ProudMan]

Turkish

[Dna8]

At first I voted for Europe, but after second look they can only pass in West Asia as a whole.,
Overall I would say intermediate between Balkan and West Asia but with a distinctive look.

Re: my own engagement with the Turko European Aesthetic Question:

I have no political interest in the matter - I am purely engaged with the aesthetics.

[The Blade]

Dinaro-Med, Alpine-Med, Litorid, Atlanto-Med, Iranid, Gracile Med, Dinarid, Asiatic and Euro Alpine, Atlantid, Norid, Taurid & Nordid.
They stand between Southern Europe (especially Balkans), Caucasus (Georgia rather than Armenia) and Iran.
Not Arabic looking, of course.

[21993]

They look like they are in Taurid, Mediterranid, Atlantid and Alpine range. Outside Turkey they might pass in Southeastern Europe and Caucasus as a whole.

[hotrod]

Intermediate with visible Mongoloid input

[Tooting Carmen]

Dinaro-Med, Alpine-Med, Litorid, Atlanto-Med, Iranid, Gracile Med, Dinarid, Asiatic and Euro Alpine, Atlantid, Norid, Taurid & Nordid.
They stand between Southern Europe (especially Balkans), Caucasus (Georgia rather than Armenia) and Iran.
Not Arabic looking, of course.

More-or-less.

[Bakha]

Mostly pontids, anatolids, eastern alpinids, litorids - all with different turanid input. Minority are exotic looking East med types. Women look less west asian than men.

[Latinus]

Intermediate between West Asia and Europe, mainly the Southern/Balkan countries.
In some sets they look very Euro, in others you perceive the Turanid/non-Euro caucasoid influence.

[Kivan]

At first I voted for Europe, but after second look they can only pass in West Asia as a whole.,
Overall I would say intermediate between Balkan and West Asia but with a distinctive look.

They look like what they are: Anatolian Turks.
The point of the poll was ask if they resemble more Europeans or Southwest Asians.


They look like they are in Taurid, Mediterranid, Atlantid and Alpine range. Outside Turkey they might pass in Southeastern Europe and Caucasus as a whole.

Thanks for the reply. I think they are mainly Mediterranid (Atlanto-Med being predominantly) with Alpinid, Dinaric, Armenoid and Nordid admixture. I think a small minority look Nordid/CM and Iranid.

[Tigranes]

They look like what they are: Anatolian Turks.

Thanks for the reply. I think they are mainly Mediterranid (Atlanto-Med being predominantly) with Alpinid, Dinaric, Armenoid and Nordid admixture. I think a small minority look Nordid/CM and Iranid.

People with such phenotypes in Turkey are likely to be Kurdish.

[Kutlu]

More Balkans imho but not sure

[Tigranes]

People with such phenotypes in Turkey are likely to be Kurdish.

I'm talking about these types:

https://abload.de/img/b262fcb3a88d76445a5d5ihjm8.jpg
https://abload.de/img/21615ff211c60b43d866avvklx.jpg
https://abload.de/img/rahime_leyla_genc9kk7m.jpg
https://abload.de/img/mazlum_yahya_musazadefcppo.jpg

[Bornoz]

My hometown
Vast majority of the city is actually Blacksea origin. Spesifically Giresun and Trabzon.
Other than that there are Caucasian(Circassian Georgian and Abkhazian mostly) Balkanite(Turk and Albanian) Eastern Anatolian(Kurdish) and native villages too. But as I said before, most of these people are from Blacksea region.

[Zeno]

What's the main types among them and where could they fit in?
I only used crowd/group photos of ordinary people, so no cherry picking.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUvTfZPY7Dw&t=225s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df_TyPXKHMw


https://www.asbu.edu.tr/sites/anasayfa.asbu.edu.tr/files/styles/buyu/public/2018-10/2_6.JPG?itok=x7GLot9N
http://panel.dogakoleji.k12.tr/dogakoleji_depo//Images/okul_user/SAKARYADOGA/IMG-20160411-WA0028_2016700.jpg
http://www.spor264.com/Content/img/-9a483991-a81e-40f8-ad70-8b75d322bccc.jpg
http://panel.dogakoleji.k12.tr/dogakoleji_depo/Images/okul_user/SAKARYADOGA/IMG-20160411-WA0105_201613.jpg
http://panel.dogakoleji.k12.tr/dogakoleji_depo//Images/haberler/basketbol/sakarya_doga/sakarya-doga-koleji-basketbol-sampiyonlugu%20(2)_2017860.jpg
http://www.arifiyehaber.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/AK-KADINLAR-MUSIAD-01.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WMKqFzXMJJE/maxresdefault.jpg
http://www.turkkadinlarbirligi.org/view/userfile/8%20ekim14ac7401085.jpg
http://www.turkkadinlarbirligi.org/view/userfile/hava1.jpg
http://serdivan.meb.gov.tr/meb_iys_dosyalar/2019_03/15162745_b.jpg
https://www.sakaryarehberim.com/pictures/ozelslayt/resim41079.jpg
http://www.medyadetay.com/images/haberler/2018/09/bahcesehir_koleji_sakaryada_ilk_ders_zilini_caldi_ h70375_a16e0.jpg
http://sakarya.gsb.gov.tr/Public/Images/IM/Sakarya/01204/1_201.jpg
http://www.sakaryabasket.com/wp-content/uploads/isik1.jpg
http://img-milliyet.mncdn.com/LocalArticle606x304/2019/01/29/fft261_mf32498436.Jpeg
https://i.dunya.com/1/670/377/files/2019/6/28/448712/448712.jpg?v=1561721205
https://www.kocaelizirve.com/upload/images//174426.jpg
https://static.daktilo.com/sites/74/uploads/2018/09/06/attachment-93881-0-34bdd27428cd4a38fa78f7397f6ab11f-1536224110.jpeg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcBKr6fWAAAWZYO.jpg
https://foto.sondakika.com/haber/2019/07/16/15-temmuz-darbe-tesebbusu-3-yilinda-sakarya-d-12248351_amp.jpg
https://img.sondakika.com/haber/165/universitedeki-mustafa-ceceli-konserinde-firt-7285165_x_o.jpg
http://sakarya.gsb.gov.tr/Public/Images/IM/Sakarya/01204/c9iexsiw0aaoov2.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Lre8ofb8o0Q/hqdefault.jpg
http://www.sakaryayenigun.com.tr/resimler/haberler/d_73f9bb5ac8ffee1ed9f14b04f0af6e4f.jpg
https://www.udef.org.tr/media/gallery/gallery/b1853.jpg
https://haberlutfen.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/sakaryada-gencler-iftar-sofrasinda-bulustu_d092b63.jpg
http://www.sakaryayenigun.com.tr/resimler/haberler/d_34bff6bd5995f497dc2e858879e88541.jpg
http://www.sakaryabarosu.org.tr/upload/haber/890/b435a27f15.jpg
http://sakarya.gsb.gov.tr/Public/Images/IM/Sakarya/01204/aticilik_30-01-2018_002.jpg
http://www.coknethaber.com/images/haberler/AZ11.jpg

Europe for the particular ones.
You're desperately trying to make Turks lighter than they are.
Yet, I'm the Nordicist here by some people...

[Kraftwerk]

Europe for the particular ones.
You're desperately trying to make Turks lighter than they are.
Yet, I'm the Nordicist here by some people...

Those photos look very random, I guess it's not cheery picking. Younger people and females from MENA look more Europoid than their men strangely. It must be about puberty giving MENA men exaggerated features such as hooknose, hairy ass etc.

[Bornoz]

Those photos look very random, I guess it's not cheery picking. Younger people and females from MENA look more Europoid than their men strangely. It must be about puberty giving MENA men exaggerated features such as hooknose, hairy ass etc.

We are not MENA people
We are our own thing basically and we are barely carrying genetic heritage of the region. That heritage is more evident in Southern European countries.
I know that we are being perceived as ''MENA'' due to religious and political stuff but you guys need to understand that genetics is completely a different thing.

[Kraftwerk]

We are not MENA people
We are our own thing basically and we are barely carrying genetic heritage of the region. That heritage is more evident in Southern European countries.
I know that we are being perceived as ''MENA'' due to religious and political stuff but you guys need to understand that genetics is completely a different thing.

This doesn't change the fact about that puberty thing. It may be a EEF, natufian, Iranian farmer thing.

[21993]

They look like what they are: Anatolian Turks.
The point of the poll was ask if they resemble more Europeans or Southwest Asians.



Thanks for the reply. I think they are mainly Mediterranid (Atlanto-Med being predominantly) with Alpinid, Dinaric, Armenoid and Nordid admixture. I think a small minority look Nordid/CM and Iranid.

You’re welcome :thumb001: Yes, I agree that they have some Dinarid, Armenoid, Nordid or CM vibes, even though those subraces’ pure forms are minority among them. As for the poll, I think they pass rather better in Europe as a whole.

[Oghuz]

they look like what they are.

Profile pics of a crowd tells the tale as always. They look like neither Europeans of any type or Iranics (except for few progressive skulls). They look like proper Turkish people.

[Kivan]

Intermediate between West Asia and Europe, mainly the Southern/Balkan countries.
In some sets they look very Euro, in others you perceive the Turanid/non-Euro caucasoid influence.
Thanks. How many(%) could pass in Brazil, in your opinion?


You’re welcome :thumb001: Yes, I agree that they have some Dinarid, Armenoid, Nordid or CM vibes, even though those subraces’ pure forms are minority among them. As for the poll, I think they pass rather better in Europe as a whole.
Yes, pure Dinarids or Nordids are not very common in Turkey.

[hurtuv]

Pan Southern European more or less. Rather light-shifted compared with other regions of the country. How far towards the south/SE of Turkey could they pass as crowds?