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Kamal900
11-06-2019, 06:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcqBfQ9ya-Q

Alenka
11-06-2019, 06:48 PM
Are they all from the same country? Most of them have a rather 'classic Middle Eastern', perhaps Levantine look. But one looks kinda Sudanese in comparison. And also another one, maybe a North African-shifted look. I'm referring to the two guys in the thumbnail, those two stand out the most, I'd say.

Kamal900
11-06-2019, 06:49 PM
Are they all from the same country? Most of them have a rather 'classic Middle Eastern', perhaps Levantine look. But one looks kinda Sudanese in comparison.

No, they're from different countries.

Nassbean
11-06-2019, 06:58 PM
the moroccan guy said that one of his grandparent came from Ghana If i remember correctly this video why can't they take normal moroccan people

Leto
11-06-2019, 06:58 PM
Ridiculous video. Using MyHeritage to showcase that "pure ethnicities" don't exist is just stupid. Pretty much agitprop.

Kyp
11-06-2019, 07:03 PM
The Iraqi result is not that different from Persian results

Leto
11-06-2019, 07:05 PM
The Iraqi result is not that different from Persian results
He also looks the whitest of them all. The Moroccan and the Yemeni are very black.

happycow
11-06-2019, 07:06 PM
Yemeni dude looks practically negro lol

Nassbean
11-06-2019, 07:07 PM
He also looks the whitest of them all. The Moroccan and the Yemeni are very black.

the moroccan said that he has a black grandparent from Ghana ...

Kamal900
11-06-2019, 07:07 PM
The Iraqi result is not that different from Persian results

That's because many Iraqi Arabs have Iranian admixture in them which makes sense they had been under the Iranic world for many centuries before and even after Islam.

Samnium
11-06-2019, 07:07 PM
the moroccan guy said that one of his grandparent came from Ghana If i remember correctly this video why can't they take normal moroccan people

Yeah a "pure" berber won't score 12.5% SSA I think, not on 23andme atleast

Oghuz
11-06-2019, 07:08 PM
they look SSA influenced except for the Iraqi.

Not good representatives of Arabs.

Nassbean
11-06-2019, 07:08 PM
Yeah a "pure" berber won't score 12.5% SSA I think, not on 23andme atleast

Exactly I have easily 50 moroccan results here and none show such high amount

Kamal900
11-06-2019, 07:08 PM
Yeah a "pure" berber won't score 12.5% SSA I think, not on 23andme atleast

MyHeritage DNA results aren't very good even to this day. I would love to see their Gedmatch and G25 results.

Kyp
11-06-2019, 07:09 PM
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Kyp
11-06-2019, 07:11 PM
Exactly I have easily 50 moroccan results here and none show such high amount

Stop crying the point wasn't to show the most represantitive arab results. The Iraqi result isn't arabic either.

Nassbean
11-06-2019, 07:12 PM
Stop crying the point wasn't to show the most represantitive arab results. The Iraqi result isn't arabic either.

sure a video about arabs get dna test test isn't supposed to be representative...

Leto
11-06-2019, 07:12 PM
they look SSA influenced except for the Iraqi.

Not good representatives of Arabs.
Yemen, Egypt, etc. are not exactly white countries. The Egyptian girl is not super dark by the way.

Leto
11-06-2019, 07:13 PM
Stop crying the point wasn't to show the most represantitive arab results. The Iraqi result isn't arabic either.
The video is basically multiculti propaganda, can't you see it.

Kyp
11-06-2019, 07:16 PM
The video is basically multiculti propaganda, can't you see it.

I found it to be very interesting seeing the differences between the arab groups. I don't care for political messaging..

Leto
11-06-2019, 07:18 PM
I found it to be very interesting to see the differences between the arab groups. I don't care for politic messaging..
Yeah, it is interesting however the guy in the beginning explicitly prefaced it by mentioning nationalism or racism. They could've simply shown the results without inserting that stupid message. Not to mention that MyHeritage results are far too inaccurate to influence one's feelings or views.

TheMaestro
11-06-2019, 07:19 PM
MyHeritage irellevant as hell.

Adamm
11-06-2019, 07:21 PM
Yeah a "pure" berber won't score 12.5% SSA I think, not on 23andme atleast

23andMe knows how to differentiate between ancient SSA DNA and recent SSA DNA, all Berbers (also the pure ones) have SSA but from a very old string which was also carried by the Epipalaeolithic Iberomaurusian taforalt samples, it looks to me that MyHeritage does the same and they integrate this old stream of SSA into the general North African component. When a Berber has SSA on an autosomal DNA test like 23andMe and MyHeritage than this indicates recent SSA forefathers.

Kyp
11-06-2019, 07:21 PM
Yeah, it is interesting however the guy in the beginning explicitly prefaced it by mentioning nationalism or racism. They could've simple showed the results without inserting that stupid message. Not to mention that MyHeritage results are far too inaccurate to influence one's feelings or views.

i'm usually skipping the irrelevant suff

Samnium
11-06-2019, 07:24 PM
23andMe knows how to differentiate between ancient SSA DNA and recent SSA DNA, all Berbers (also the pure ones) have SSA but from a very old string which was also carried by the Epipalaeolithic Iberomaurusian taforalt samples, it looks to me that MyHeritage does the same and they integrate this old stream of SSA into the general North African component. When a Berber has SSA on an autosomal DNA test like 23andMe and MyHeritage than this indicates recent SSA forefathers.

Yep of course. This Moroccan is clearly very SSA influenced (and directly) and not in the way that you can find in some Inland morrocans definitely.

Kyp
11-06-2019, 07:35 PM
The iraqi guy scores as much Central Asian as my father, must be a Iraqi Turkmen

Abdelnour
11-06-2019, 07:42 PM
I remember Grab The Gauge arguing that Myheritage.com was the best DNA kit there is.

Kamal900
11-06-2019, 07:58 PM
I found it to be very interesting seeing the differences between the arab groups. I don't care for political messaging..

True..I mean, take a look at my genetic results:

East_Med 22.63%
Near_Eastern 22.51%
Arabian 12.4%
Armenian 6.84%
Italian 6.32%
South_Central_Asian 5.73%
North_Caucasian 5.56%
West_Caucasian 4.89%
North_African 3.77%
Northeast_African 3.16%
West_Med 2.79%
Basque 1.39%
East_Balkan 0.84%
Iberian 0.82%
Oceanian 0.18%
Central_Euro 0.13%
South_Asian 0.05%

Finished reading population data. 474 populations found.
36 components mode.

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Mixed Mode:
1 62.70% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 37.30% Late_Medieval_Iran_I1955 @ 4.904
2 63.48% BA_Sydon + 36.52% Late_Medieval_Iran_I1955 @ 5.894
3 65.82% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 34.18% EIA_F38_Iran @ 5.960
4 71.29% BA_Sydon + 28.71% CHL_Iran_I1661 @ 6.438
5 50.20% Late_Medieval_Iran_I1955 + 49.80% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 @ 6.775
6 69.73% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 30.27% MBA_Armenia_RISE423 @ 6.839
7 70.51% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 29.49% CHL_Armenia_I1407 @ 6.847
8 71.68% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 28.32% CHL_Iran_I1661 @ 6.936
9 68.95% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 31.05% CHL_Armenia_I1632 @ 7.032
10 71.29% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 28.71% CHL_Armenia_I1634 @ 7.069
11 75.98% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 24.02% EBA_Armenia_I1633 @ 7.240
12 66.21% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 33.79% MA2198_Anatolia_IA @ 7.313
13 68.55% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 31.45% Crimean_Goth_Ker_1 @ 7.363
14 78.32% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 21.68% DA243_Alan_Caucasus @ 7.376
15 63.87% BA_Sydon + 36.13% CHL_Iran_I1662 @ 7.520
16 67.38% BA_Sydon + 32.62% CHL_Iran_I1674 @ 7.529
17 70.51% BA_Sydon + 29.49% MBA_Armenia_RISE423 @ 7.596
18 74.02% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 25.98% LBA_Armenia_RISE397 @ 7.598
19 50.20% Late_Medieval_Iran_I1955 + 49.80% BA_Sydon @ 7.628
20 72.46% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 27.54% CHL_Iran_I1670 @ 7.695
21 73.63% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 26.37% CHL_Armenia_I1631 @ 7.714
22 75.98% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 24.02% EBA_Armenia_I1658 @ 7.908
23 74.80% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 25.20% EBA__Armenia_I1635 @ 7.924
24 67.77% BA_Sydon + 32.23% EIA_F38_Iran @ 7.953
25 77.54% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 22.46% BA_Armenia_RISE407 @ 8.117
26 75.98% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 24.02% LBA_Armenia_RISE412 @ 8.130
27 54.88% Egyptian_mumy_I_JK2888_ + 45.12% Late_Medieval_Iran_I1955 @ 8.252
28 79.88% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 20.12% DA224_Kazakhstan_250400AD @ 8.303
29 62.70% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 37.30% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 8.371
30 54.49% Egyptian_mumy_I_JK2888_ + 45.51% CHL_Iran_I1662 @ 8.411
31 75.59% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 24.41% CHL_Armenia_I1409 @ 8.416
32 53.32% I0867_Levant_PPNB + 46.68% CHL_Iran_I1662 @ 8.422
33 73.24% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 26.76% DA179_Kipchak @ 8.476
34 50.20% Late_Medieval_Iran_I1955 + 49.80% Egyptian_mumy_I_JK2888_ @ 8.505
35 64.65% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 35.35% CHL_Iran_I1662 @ 8.511
36 50.20% EIA_F38_Iran + 49.80% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 @ 8.519
37 50.20% CHL_Iran_I1662 + 49.80% I0867_Levant_PPNB @ 8.527
38 50.20% CHL_Iran_I1662 + 49.80% Egyptian_mumy_I_JK2888_ @ 8.597
39 69.34% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 30.66% CL25_south_Italian @ 8.597
40 55.27% Egyptian_mummy_III_jk2911_ + 44.73% EIA_F38_Iran @ 8.641

Least-squares method.

Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% BA_Sydon @ 14.140
2 100% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 @ 14.294
3 100% Egyptian_mumy_I_JK2888_ @ 19.502
4 100% I0867_Levant_PPNB @ 20.307
5 100% CL38_GreeksouthItalian @ 21.113
6 100% Egyptian_mummy_III_jk2911_ @ 21.421
7 100% CHL_Iran_I1662 @ 22.618
8 100% N_Levant_AinGhazal1 @ 22.631
9 100% CL30_GreeksouthItalian @ 22.912
10 100% Late_Medieval_Iran_I1955 @ 23.159
New populations: 86

Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 50% Late_Medieval_Iran_I1955 @ 6.726
2 50% BA_Sydon + 50% Late_Medieval_Iran_I1955 @ 7.584
3 50% EIA_F38_Iran + 50% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 @ 8.466
4 50% Egyptian_mumy_I_JK2888_ + 50% Late_Medieval_Iran_I1955 @ 8.487
5 50% CHL_Iran_I1662 + 50% I0867_Levant_PPNB @ 8.515
6 50% CHL_Iran_I1662 + 50% Egyptian_mumy_I_JK2888_ @ 8.581
7 50% BA_Sydon + 50% CHL_Iran_I1662 @ 8.856
8 50% Egyptian_mummy_III_jk2911_ + 50% Late_Medieval_Iran_I1955 @ 8.858
9 50% Egyptian_mummy_III_jk2911_ + 50% EIA_F38_Iran @ 8.945
10 50% CHL_Iran_I1662 + 50% N_Levant_AinGhazal1 @ 9.153

Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% BA_Sydon + 33% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 33% Late_Medieval_Iran_I1955 @ 4.325
2 33% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 33% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 33% Late_Medieval_Iran_I1955 @ 5.102
3 33% Egyptian_mumy_I_JK2888_ + 33% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 33% Late_Medieval_Iran_I1955 @ 5.188
4 33% BA_Sydon + 33% Egyptian_mumy_I_JK2888_ + 33% Late_Medieval_Iran_I1955 @ 5.244
5 33% Egyptian_mumy_I_JK2888_ + 33% EIA_F38_Iran + 33% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 @ 5.718
6 33% EIA_F38_Iran + 33% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 33% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 @ 5.969
7 33% BA_Sydon + 33% BA_Sydon + 33% Late_Medieval_Iran_I1955 @ 5.997
8 33% BA_Sydon + 33% CHL_Iran_I1661 + 33% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 @ 6.077
9 33% BA_Sydon + 33% EIA_F38_Iran + 33% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 @ 6.100
10 33% BA_Sydon + 33% Egyptian_mummy_III_jk2911_ + 33% Late_Medieval_Iran_I1955 @ 6.131

Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 25% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 25% Late_Medieval_Iran_I1955 @ 3.915
2 25% CHL_Iran_I1661 + 25% CL25_south_Italian + 25% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 25% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 @ 4.168
3 25% CHL_Iran_I1661 + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 25% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 @ 4.212
4 25% CHL_Iran_I1661 + 25% CL25_south_Italian + 25% Egyptian_mummy_III_jk2911_ + 25% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 @ 4.534
5 25% CHL_Iran_I1662 + 25% CL25_south_Italian + 25% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 25% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 @ 4.583
6 25% CL30_GreeksouthItalian + 25% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 25% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 25% Late_Medieval_Iran_I1955 @ 4.629
7 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% Egyptian_mummy_III_jk2911_ + 25% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 + 25% Late_Medieval_Iran_I1955 @ 4.680
8 25% CHL_Iran_I1661 + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% EBA_Jordan__I1730 + 25% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 @ 4.710
9 25% CHL_Iran_I1661 + 25% CL25_south_Italian + 25% EBA_Jordan__I1730 + 25% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 @ 4.847
10 25% CHL_Iran_I1661 + 25% CL38_GreeksouthItalian + 25% Egyptian_mummy_III_jk2911_ + 25% IA_LevantEgypt_Gladiator_3DRIF26 @ 4.855