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J. Ketch
11-11-2019, 04:53 PM
If we assume that Roman genetic influence in Germany and Gaul was made through Iron Age Italic-like people would the expected Roman influence be far bigger than what we would have estimated before?
Potentially, but what looks like Italic SW Euro influence could also be largely from undersampled Gauls/Celts, who were likely intermediate of NW and SW Europeans.

SharpFork
11-11-2019, 05:00 PM
Potentially, but what looks like Italic SW Euro influence could also be largely from undersampled Gauls/Celts, who were likely intermediate of NW and SW Europeans.
But if so many Italians from even before the Celtic expansion were this north-western, does it mean the Celts were quite more similar to them or that Celts themselves were more northern(the former seems more likely the case to me, supports a recent late bronze age Italo-Celtic?)

Calpurnius
11-11-2019, 05:02 PM
Can you add the two Etruscans RMPR473 and RMPR474b?

The northernmost Corsicans in your PCA are likely mixed with French.
Sure, here's the PCA with the sample names included:
https://i.imgur.com/LDb2zJZ.png

Calpurnius
11-11-2019, 05:03 PM
Single item distance to proto-Villanovan sample vs frequency of R1b-U152. Interesting.
https://i.imgur.com/Dj85ZvP.png
https://ilsizzi.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/r1b-u152.gif

trebil
11-11-2019, 05:11 PM
Sure, here's the PCA with the sample names included:
https://i.imgur.com/LDb2zJZ.png

thanks, what software are you using?

Calpurnius
11-11-2019, 05:17 PM
thanks, what software are you using?
The program is R(https://www.r-project.org/), dataset is Global25, to plot I use ggplot2, then libraries like dplyr to filter and process the data, prcomp to perform a pca on a subset of interest like in this case.

dududud
11-11-2019, 06:06 PM
Still gedmatch kit not available?

vbnetkhio
11-11-2019, 06:14 PM
R1 does, but that's the thing, his cultural affiliation is not Roman, he is from a proto-Villanovan context and he is the oldest of the iron age samples. I don't think his Balkan shift towards Croatia_IA is just some coincidence tbh. We'll see if the next paper coming has more geographically varied samples

but he isn't shifted towards Croatia_IA, he is practically identical to it, right? and from the same period(early iron age). wouldn't it make more sense that their similar admixture proportions are result of mixings which occurred independently of each other at the same time?

that wouldn't unusal, some Renaissance and MA populations are also almost identical to HRV_IA.


[1,] "HRV_IA" "0"
[2,] "ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0156"
[3,] "ITA_Etruscan" "0.0186"
[4,] "ITA_Rome_MA" "0.0198"
[5,] "ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity" "0.0213"
[6,] "Scythian_MDA" "0.0216"
[7,] "HUN_BA_o" "0.023"
[8,] "HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0233"
[9,] "HRV_MBA" "0.0242"
[10,] "ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA" "0.0244"
[11,] "Levant_LBN_MA_Mixed" "0.0245"
[12,] "Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE" "0.0249"
[13,] "ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA" "0.0253"
[14,] "ITA_Rome_Renaissance" "0.0274"
[15,] "ITA_Tivoli_Renaissance" "0.0277"
[16,] "ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA" "0.0279"
[17,] "BGR_IA" "0.028"
[18,] "HRV_EBA" "0.0281"
[19,] "IND_Roopkund_B" "0.0286"
[20,] "DEU_Roman" "0.0291"
[21,] "Bell_Beaker_ITA" "0.0294"
[22,] "DEU_Lech_BBC" "0.0297"
[23,] "Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.03"
[24,] "HUN_BA" "0.0302"
[25,] "ITA_Rome_Imperial" "0.0305"
[26,] "TZA_Zanzibar_Euro_outlier" "0.0305"
[27,] "Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES" "0.0306"
[28,] "ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0308"
[29,] "DEU_Lech_MBA" "0.0309"
[30,] "DEU_MA_ACD" "0.0309"

i lost some respect for Davidski for calling that guy an idiot, instead of just disagreeing with him and explaining his reasoning.

vbnetkhio
11-11-2019, 06:17 PM
this is 2way modelling for that sample



[1,] "ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0"
[2,] "38.1 % England_EMBA + 61.9 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0094"
[3,] "59.4 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 40.6 % SWE_IA" "0.0101"
[4,] "70.6 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 29.4 % KAZ_Satan_MLBA_Alakul" "0.0102"
[5,] "71.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 28.6 % KAZ_Solyanka_MLBA" "0.0105"
[6,] "74.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 25.6 % KAZ_Satan_MLBA_Alakul" "0.0106"
[7,] "62.2 % HUN_Prescythian_IA + 37.8 % UKR_N_o" "0.0108"
[8,] "37.4 % DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN + 62.6 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.011"
[9,] "71.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 28.5 % KAZ_Lisakovskiy_MLBA_Alakul" "0.011"
[10,] "70.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 29.5 % KAZ_Maitan_MLBA_Alakul" "0.0111"
[11,] "67.1 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 32.9 % KAZ_Ak_Moustafa_MLBA1" "0.0112"
[12,] "33.3 % England_EMBA + 66.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0113"
[13,] "74.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 25.3 % KAZ_Taldysay_MLBA1" "0.0114"
[14,] "73.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 26.1 % UZB_Kashkarchi_BA" "0.0115"
[15,] "42.1 % DEU_MA + 57.9 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0115"
[16,] "32.9 % DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN + 67.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0115"
[17,] "73.8 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 26.2 % KAZ_Mys_MLBA" "0.0116"
[18,] "54.8 % HRV_IA + 45.2 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0116"
[19,] "67.6 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 32.4 % KAZ_Lisakovskiy_MLBA_Alakul" "0.0117"
[20,] "71.8 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 28.2 % RUS_Srubnaya_MLBA" "0.0118"
[21,] "68.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 31.5 % SWE_Battle-Axe" "0.0118"
[22,] "70.8 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 29.2 % KAZ_Kairan_MLBA" "0.0119"
[23,] "72.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 27.9 % KAZ_Aktogai_MLBA" "0.012"
[24,] "49.7 % Corded_Ware_DEU + 50.3 % HUN_Starcevo_N" "0.012"
[25,] "71.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 28.1 % RUS_Krasnoyarsk_MLBA" "0.0121"
[26,] "36.5 % England_Roman + 63.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0121"
[27,] "41.2 % England_Roman + 58.8 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0121"
[28,] "74.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 25.7 % KAZ_Dali_MLBA" "0.0122"
[29,] "64.4 % HUN_BA_o + 35.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0122"
[30,] "67.8 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 32.2 % RUS_Srubnaya_MLBA" "0.0122"
[31,] "38 % DEU_Alberstedt_LN + 62 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0123"
[32,] "71.8 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 28.2 % RUS_Sintashta_MLBA" "0.0123"
[33,] "73.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 26.9 % RUS_Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA" "0.0123"
[34,] "72.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 27.1 % RUS_Tagar" "0.0123"
[35,] "35.6 % Bell_Beaker_Scotland + 64.4 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0123"
[36,] "61.7 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 38.3 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0123"
[37,] "37.1 % DEU_MA + 62.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0124"
[38,] "31.2 % Bell_Beaker_Scotland + 68.8 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0124"
[39,] "74.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 25.3 % KAZ_Karagash_MLBA" "0.0125"
[40,] "30.9 % Bell_Beaker_England + 69.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0125"
[41,] "32.3 % DEU_Unetice_EBA + 67.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0125"
[42,] "73.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 26.1 % RUS_Mezhovskaya" "0.0126"
[43,] "72.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 27.8 % KAZ_Zevakinskiy_BA" "0.0126"
[44,] "68.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 31.5 % Scotland_CA_EBA" "0.0126"
[45,] "70.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 29.5 % POL_Chopice_Wesele_Culture" "0.0126"
[46,] "42.6 % HUN_Prescythian_IA + 57.4 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0126"
[47,] "69.5 % HUN_BA_o + 30.5 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0126"
[48,] "68 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 32 % KAZ_Solyanka_MLBA" "0.0127"
[49,] "76.8 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 23.2 % RUS_Priobrazhenka_LBA" "0.0127"
[50,] "62.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 37.7 % HUN_Prescythian_IA" "0.0127"
[51,] "74.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 25.9 % Sarmatian_KAZ" "0.0127"
[52,] "30.9 % CZE_EBA + 69.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0128"
[53,] "29.7 % Bell_Beaker_NLD + 70.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0128"
[54,] "73 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 27 % Sarmatian_RUS_Urals" "0.0128"
[55,] "71.3 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 28.7 % KAZ_Taldysay_MLBA1" "0.0128"
[56,] "66.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 33.5 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0128"
[57,] "37.3 % Bell_Beaker_CZE + 62.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0128"
[58,] "32.6 % England_MBA + 67.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0128"
[59,] "51 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 49 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0128"
[60,] "33.8 % Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale + 66.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0129"
[61,] "73.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 26.4 % KAZ_Kyzlbulak_MLBA1" "0.0129"
[62,] "56.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 43.9 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0129"
[63,] "62.3 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 37.7 % SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna" "0.0129"
[64,] "32.6 % CZE_Bilina_BA + 67.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.013"
[65,] "71.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 28.1 % KAZ_Ak_Moustafa_MLBA1" "0.013"
[66,] "69 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 31 % UKR_Dereivka_I_En2" "0.013"
[67,] "67.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 32.5 % POL_Unetice_EBA" "0.013"
[68,] "51.5 % RUS_Srubnaya_MLBA + 48.5 % UKR_N_o" "0.013"
[69,] "74 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 26 % KAZ_Shoendykol_MLBA_Fedorovo" "0.013"
[70,] "74.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 25.8 % KAZ_Nomad_IA" "0.0131"
[71,] "31.6 % England_CA_EBA + 68.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0131"
[72,] "44.1 % GRC_Minoan_Lassithi + 55.9 % SWE_IA" "0.0131"
[73,] "43.7 % HUN_Starcevo_N + 56.3 % SWE_Battle-Axe" "0.0131"
[74,] "74.8 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 25.2 % TJK_Dashti_Kozy_BA" "0.0131"
[75,] "27.6 % Corded_Ware_CZE + 72.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0132"
[76,] "64.6 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 35.4 % SWE_Battle-Axe" "0.0132"
[77,] "74.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 25.1 % KAZ_Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA" "0.0132"
[78,] "73.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 26.3 % KAZ_Chanchar2_LBA" "0.0132"
[79,] "67 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 33 % KAZ_Maitan_MLBA_Alakul" "0.0132"
[80,] "75.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 24.7 % UZB_Kokcha_BA" "0.0132"
[81,] "75.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 24.6 % KAZ_Bylkyldak_MLBA" "0.0132"
[82,] "49.1 % Sarmatian_KAZ + 50.9 % UKR_N_o" "0.0133"
[83,] "32.3 % CZE_Unetice_EBA + 67.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0133"
[84,] "69.3 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 30.7 % RUS_Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA" "0.0133"
[85,] "47.6 % HUN_Starcevo_N + 52.4 % RUS_Srubnaya_MLBA" "0.0133"
[86,] "35.1 % Bell_Beaker_England + 64.9 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0134"
[87,] "77.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 22.8 % KAZ_Georgievsky_LBA" "0.0134"
[88,] "25.4 % Corded_Ware_DEU + 74.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0134"
[89,] "63.4 % HUN_Prescythian_IA + 36.6 % HUN_Starcevo_N" "0.0134"
[90,] "30.1 % DNK_MN_B + 69.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0134"
[91,] "67.1 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 32.9 % KAZ_Kairan_MLBA" "0.0134"
[92,] "11 % EGY_Hellenistic + 89 % HRV_IA" "0.0134"
[93,] "72.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 27.4 % UKR_Sredny_Stog_II_En" "0.0134"
[94,] "57.9 % BGR_C + 42.1 % KAZ_Satan_MLBA_Alakul" "0.0134"
[95,] "65.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 34.9 % SWE_IA" "0.0134"
[96,] "47.5 % KAZ_Taldysay_MLBA1 + 52.5 % UKR_N_o" "0.0135"
[97,] "26.8 % Corded_Ware_POL + 73.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0135"
[98,] "45.8 % DEU_MA_ACD + 54.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0135"
[99,] "42.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad + 57.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0135"
[100,] "37.1 % CZE_Bilina_BA + 62.9 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0135"
[101,] "42.5 % DEU_Alberstedt_LN + 57.5 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0135"
[102,] "68.2 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 31.8 % RUS_Krasnoyarsk_MLBA" "0.0135"
[103,] "70.8 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 29.2 % KAZ_Dali_MLBA" "0.0135"
[104,] "73.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 26.6 % UKR_Dereivka_I_En2" "0.0135"
[105,] "36.5 % DEU_Unetice_EBA + 63.5 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0135"
[106,] "75.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 24.1 % RUS_Karasuk" "0.0135"
[107,] "37.1 % England_MBA + 62.9 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0135"
[108,] "48.8 % Corded_Ware_DEU + 51.2 % UKR_N_o" "0.0135"
[109,] "65.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 34.5 % Scythian_UKR" "0.0136"
[110,] "58.6 % BGR_Middle_C + 41.4 % Corded_Ware_DEU" "0.0136"
[111,] "43.4 % DEU_Lech_BBC + 56.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0136"
[112,] "37.1 % UKR_N_o + 62.9 % Yamnaya_BGR" "0.0136"
[113,] "27 % HRV_EBA + 73 % HRV_IA" "0.0136"
[114,] "37.4 % Bell_Beaker_FRA_C + 62.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0136"
[115,] "82.3 % HRV_IA + 17.7 % HUN_Prescythian_IA" "0.0136"
[116,] "68.5 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 31.5 % KAZ_Aktogai_MLBA" "0.0136"
[117,] "29.7 % Bell_Beaker_FRA + 70.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0136"
[118,] "85.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 14.8 % RUS_Karelia_HG" "0.0136"
[119,] "67.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 32.7 % SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna" "0.0136"
[120,] "18.8 % BGR_Varna_En3 + 81.2 % HRV_IA" "0.0136"
[121,] "74.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 25.1 % RUS_Poltavka_o" "0.0136"
[122,] "48.4 % KAZ_Dali_MLBA + 51.6 % UKR_N_o" "0.0136"
[123,] "51.5 % HUN_Starcevo_N + 48.5 % KAZ_Satan_MLBA_Alakul" "0.0137"
[124,] "74.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 25.4 % Saka_Kazakh_steppe_o2" "0.0137"
[125,] "34.1 % Bell_Beaker_POL + 65.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0137"
[126,] "69.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 30.4 % IRL_BA" "0.0137"
[127,] "53.1 % England_EMBA + 46.9 % GRC_Minoan_Lassithi" "0.0137"
[128,] "50.5 % Sarmatian_RUS_Urals + 49.5 % UKR_N_o" "0.0137"
[129,] "63.1 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 36.9 % POL_Unetice_EBA" "0.0137"
[130,] "29.5 % Corded_Ware_DEU + 70.5 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0137"
[131,] "42.7 % BGR_C + 57.3 % HUN_Prescythian_IA" "0.0137"
[132,] "71.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 28.3 % MDA_Cimmerian" "0.0137"
[133,] "43.3 % Bell_Beaker_CHE + 56.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0137"
[134,] "33.8 % Bell_Beaker_NLD + 66.2 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0138"
[135,] "37.3 % BGR_N + 62.7 % HUN_Prescythian_IA" "0.0138"
[136,] "37.5 % Bell_Beaker_Bavaria + 62.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0138"
[137,] "34.5 % HRV_Cardial_N + 65.5 % HUN_Prescythian_IA" "0.0138"
[138,] "68.1 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 31.9 % RUS_Sintashta_MLBA" "0.0138"
[139,] "85.4 % HUN_BA_o + 14.6 % UKR_N_o" "0.0138"
[140,] "76.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 23.8 % KAZ_Zevakinskiy_LBA" "0.0138"
[141,] "7 % BRA_Botocudo + 93 % HRV_IA" "0.0138"
[142,] "68.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 31.3 % Scotland_MBA" "0.0139"
[143,] "90.5 % HRV_IA + 9.5 % Saka_Tian_Shan_o" "0.0139"
[144,] "37.2 % HUN_LBK_MN + 62.8 % HUN_Prescythian_IA" "0.0139"
[145,] "37.8 % Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA + 62.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0139"
[146,] "20.8 % Anatolia_IA_low_res + 79.2 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0139"
[147,] "59.2 % HUN_Starcevo_N + 40.8 % RUS_Catacomb" "0.0139"
[148,] "70.6 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 29.4 % KAZ_Mys_MLBA" "0.0139"
[149,] "55.5 % SWE_Battle-Axe + 44.5 % UKR_N_o" "0.0139"
[150,] "93.8 % HRV_IA + 6.2 % TON_2500BP" "0.0139"
[151,] "42.1 % GRC_Peloponnese_N + 57.9 % SWE_IA" "0.0139"
[152,] "84.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 15.4 % RUS_Sidelkino_HG" "0.0139"
[153,] "79.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 20.1 % RUS_Sintashta_MLBA_o2" "0.0139"
[154,] "71.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 28.4 % NLD_BA" "0.0139"
[155,] "32.8 % HRV_EBA + 67.2 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0139"
[156,] "62.7 % HUN_Prescythian_IA + 37.3 % HUN_Sopot_LN" "0.0139"
[157,] "74.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 25.3 % Sarmatian_RUS_Caspian_steppe" "0.0139"
[158,] "67 % BGR_Middle_C + 33 % RUS_Catacomb" "0.0139"
[159,] "83.8 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 16.2 % RUS_Khvalynsk_En" "0.014"
[160,] "25.2 % DEU_MA_o + 74.8 % HUN_BA_o" "0.014"
[161,] "36.2 % HRV_Sopot_MN + 63.8 % HUN_Prescythian_IA" "0.014"
[162,] "74.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 25.4 % KAZ_Chanchar_LBA" "0.014"
[163,] "35 % CZE_EBA + 65 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.014"
[164,] "76.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 23.3 % KAZ_Zevakinskiy_MLBA" "0.014"
[165,] "10.5 % England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o + 89.5 % HRV_IA" "0.014"
[166,] "51.9 % Corded_Ware_DEU + 48.1 % HRV_Cardial_N" "0.014"
[167,] "48.1 % BGR_Krepost_N + 51.9 % SWE_IA" "0.014"
[168,] "42.3 % BGR_C + 57.7 % Yamnaya_BGR" "0.014"
[169,] "56.7 % BGR_C + 43.3 % Corded_Ware_DEU" "0.014"
[170,] "62.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 37.3 % Yamnaya_BGR" "0.0141"
[171,] "73 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 27 % Scythian_Aldy_Bel_IA" "0.0141"
[172,] "33.6 % Corded_Ware_Proto-Unetice_POL + 66.4 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0141"
[173,] "72.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 27.3 % KAZ_Katon_Karagay_LBA" "0.0141"
[174,] "49 % Corded_Ware_DEU + 51 % HUN_LBK_MN" "0.0141"
[175,] "87.8 % HRV_IA + 12.2 % IRN_Ganj_Dareh_Historic" "0.0141"
[176,] "33.7 % England_IA + 66.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0141"
[177,] "54.8 % GRC_Peloponnese_N + 45.2 % KAZ_Satan_MLBA_Alakul" "0.0141"
[178,] "73.5 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 26.5 % KAZ_Georgievsky_LBA" "0.0141"
[179,] "89.4 % HRV_IA + 10.6 % Scythian_Aldy_Bel_IA" "0.0141"
[180,] "70.9 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 29.1 % UZB_Kashkarchi_BA" "0.0141"
[181,] "67.8 % BGR_Middle_C + 32.2 % RUS_Afanasievo" "0.0141"
[182,] "90.3 % HRV_IA + 9.7 % KAZ_Tasbas_IA" "0.0141"
[183,] "94.2 % HRV_IA + 5.8 % VUT_2900BP_all" "0.0141"
[184,] "90.8 % HRV_IA + 9.2 % KAZ_Satan_MLBA_Alakul" "0.0141"
[185,] "21.1 % DEU_MA_ACD + 78.9 % HRV_IA" "0.0141"
[186,] "89.9 % HRV_IA + 10.1 % RUS_Tagar" "0.0141"
[187,] "93.5 % HRV_IA + 6.5 % PYF_150BP" "0.0141"
[188,] "28.4 % BGR_IA + 71.6 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0141"
[189,] "67.2 % HRV_IA + 32.8 % ITA_Rome_MA" "0.0141"
[190,] "62.6 % HUN_Tiszapolgar_ECA + 37.4 % RUS_Catacomb" "0.0141"
[191,] "78.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 21.5 % KAZ_Kairan_MLBA_o" "0.0142"
[192,] "88.5 % HRV_IA + 11.5 % RUS_Sunghir_MA" "0.0142"
[193,] "93.8 % HRV_IA + 6.2 % KAZ_Kazakh_steppe_EMBA" "0.0142"
[194,] "81.1 % HRV_IA + 18.9 % ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA_o" "0.0142"
[195,] "66.3 % HUN_Prescythian_IA + 33.7 % ROU_N" "0.0142"
[196,] "85.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 14.9 % RUS_Samara_HG" "0.0142"
[197,] "27.9 % HRV_MBA + 72.1 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0142"
[198,] "31 % England_Saxon + 69 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0142"
[199,] "90.3 % HRV_IA + 9.7 % KAZ_Pazyryk_IA" "0.0142"
[200,] "38.1 % Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale + 61.9 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0142"
[201,] "78.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 21.9 % RUS_Krasnoyarsk_MLBA_o" "0.0142"
[202,] "87.2 % HRV_IA + 12.8 % RUS_Nomad_MA" "0.0142"
[203,] "14.7 % Anatolia_IA + 85.3 % HRV_IA" "0.0142"
[204,] "81.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 18.4 % RUS_Potapovka_MLBA_o" "0.0142"
[205,] "50.2 % RUS_Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA + 49.8 % UKR_N_o" "0.0142"
[206,] "91.7 % HRV_IA + 8.3 % RUS_Ingria_IA" "0.0142"
[207,] "93.6 % HRV_IA + 6.4 % RUS_Kurma_EBA_o" "0.0142"
[208,] "89.9 % HRV_IA + 10.1 % KAZ_Zevakinskiy_BA" "0.0142"
[209,] "15.6 % Baltic_EST_Comb_Ceramic_low_res + 84.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0142"
[210,] "52.1 % KAZ_Ak_Moustafa_MLBA1 + 47.9 % UKR_N_o" "0.0143"
[211,] "35.8 % England_CA_EBA + 64.2 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0143"
[212,] "59.4 % HUN_BA_o + 40.6 % ITA_Etruscan" "0.0143"
[213,] "15 % GRC_Peloponnese_N + 85 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0143"
[214,] "60.2 % HUN_Prescythian_IA + 39.8 % HUN_Tiszapolgar_ECA" "0.0143"
[215,] "76.8 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 23.2 % Saka_Tian_Shan_o" "0.0143"
[216,] "66.3 % HUN_Prescythian_IA + 33.7 % MKD_N" "0.0143"
[217,] "89.7 % HRV_IA + 10.3 % KAZ_Nomad_MA" "0.0143"
[218,] "36.7 % CZE_Unetice_EBA + 63.3 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0143"
[219,] "93.9 % HRV_IA + 6.1 % KAZ_Kanai_MBA" "0.0143"
[220,] "54.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 45.5 % ITA_Rome_Renaissance" "0.0143"
[221,] "63.6 % HUN_Prescythian_IA + 36.4 % SRB_N" "0.0143"
[222,] "90.8 % HRV_IA + 9.2 % KAZ_Nomad_IA" "0.0143"
[223,] "73.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 26.6 % KAZ_Kangju" "0.0143"
[224,] "26.3 % Corded_Ware_Baltic + 73.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0143"
[225,] "75.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 24.9 % KAZ_Tasbas_IA" "0.0143"
[226,] "12.7 % Bell_Beaker_CZE_o + 87.3 % HRV_IA" "0.0143"
[227,] "89.6 % HRV_IA + 10.4 % KAZ_Karakhanid" "0.0143"
[228,] "62 % HUN_ALPc_Tiszadob_MN + 38 % RUS_Afanasievo" "0.0143"
[229,] "45.7 % Corded_Ware_DEU + 54.3 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN" "0.0143"
[230,] "65.1 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 34.9 % Wales_CA_EBA" "0.0143"
[231,] "48.4 % KAZ_Satan_MLBA_Alakul + 51.6 % SRB_N" "0.0143"
[232,] "80.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 19.6 % KAZ_Maitan_MLBA_Alakul_o" "0.0143"
[233,] "62 % BGR_Middle_C + 38 % DEU_Karsdorf_LN" "0.0143"
[234,] "70 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 30 % Wales_CA_EBA" "0.0143"
[235,] "68.6 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 31.4 % KAZ_Zevakinskiy_BA" "0.0144"
[236,] "86.6 % HRV_IA + 13.4 % SWE_IA" "0.0144"
[237,] "72 % HRV_IA + 28 % ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity" "0.0144"
[238,] "16.5 % BGR_C + 83.5 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0144"
[239,] "90.3 % HRV_IA + 9.7 % UKR_Sredny_Stog_II_En" "0.0144"
[240,] "93.8 % HRV_IA + 6.2 % RUS_Potapovka_MLBA_o" "0.0144"
[241,] "41.8 % Bell_Beaker_CZE + 58.2 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0144"
[242,] "29.6 % ARM_Areni_C + 70.4 % ITA_Etruscan" "0.0144"
[243,] "11.8 % Anatolia_Ottoman + 88.2 % HRV_IA" "0.0144"
[244,] "92.2 % HRV_IA + 7.8 % KGZ_Nomad_MA" "0.0144"
[245,] "90.9 % HRV_IA + 9.1 % KAZ_Chanchar2_LBA" "0.0144"
[246,] "93.4 % HRV_IA + 6.6 % RUS_Kurma_EBA" "0.0144"
[247,] "37.7 % RUS_Vonyuchka_En + 62.3 % UKR_N_o" "0.0144"
[248,] "90.7 % HRV_IA + 9.3 % Sarmatian_RUS_Urals" "0.0144"
[249,] "81.7 % HRV_IA + 18.3 % Scythian_HUN" "0.0144"
[250,] "91.3 % HRV_IA + 8.7 % KAZ_Mys_MLBA" "0.0144"
[251,] "92.6 % HRV_IA + 7.4 % RUS_Krasnoyarsk_MLBA_o" "0.0144"
[252,] "91.5 % HRV_IA + 8.5 % RUS_Altai_IA" "0.0144"
[253,] "73 % HRV_IA + 27 % Scythian_MDA" "0.0144"
[254,] "88.2 % HUN_BA_o + 11.8 % MKD_N" "0.0144"
[255,] "73.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 26.9 % Hun_Tian_Shan" "0.0144"
[256,] "13.5 % BGR_N + 86.5 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0144"
[257,] "47.6 % KAZ_Satan_MLBA_Alakul + 52.4 % UKR_N_o" "0.0145"
[258,] "73.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 26.9 % Scythian_Zevakino_Chilikta_IA" "0.0145"
[259,] "94.6 % HRV_IA + 5.4 % MYS_Historical" "0.0145"
[260,] "89.1 % HRV_IA + 10.9 % SWE_Battle-Axe" "0.0145"
[261,] "87.3 % HRV_IA + 12.7 % Scythian_UKR" "0.0145"
[262,] "57.6 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 42.4 % Yamnaya_BGR" "0.0145"
[263,] "94.1 % HRV_IA + 5.9 % RUS_Baikal_EBA" "0.0145"
[264,] "27.3 % Bell_Beaker_Rhine-Main + 72.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0145"
[265,] "66.7 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 33.3 % POL_Chopice_Wesele_Culture" "0.0145"
[266,] "94.5 % HRV_IA + 5.5 % TZN_PN_o" "0.0145"
[267,] "70 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 30 % KAZ_Kyzlbulak_MLBA1" "0.0145"
[268,] "90.2 % HRV_IA + 9.8 % MDA_Cimmerian" "0.0145"
[269,] "22.2 % IRN_Ganj_Dareh_Historic + 77.8 % ITA_Etruscan" "0.0145"
[270,] "47.8 % HUN_MA_Szolad + 52.2 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0145"
[271,] "60 % HUN_Starcevo_N + 40 % RUS_Afanasievo" "0.0145"
[272,] "11.5 % England_EMBA + 88.5 % HRV_IA" "0.0145"
[273,] "93.9 % HRV_IA + 6.1 % RUS_Okunevo_BA" "0.0145"
[274,] "8.1 % FIN_Levanluhta_IA + 91.9 % HRV_IA" "0.0145"
[275,] "69.5 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 30.5 % RUS_Tagar" "0.0145"
[276,] "14.9 % ARM_Areni_C + 85.1 % HRV_IA" "0.0145"
[277,] "96 % HRV_IA + 4 % VUT_2350BP" "0.0145"
[278,] "74.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 25.8 % RUS_Petrovka_MLBA" "0.0145"
[279,] "91.2 % HRV_IA + 8.8 % KAZ_Wusun" "0.0145"
[280,] "59.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 40.1 % Levant_LBN_MA_Euro" "0.0145"
[281,] "94.2 % HRV_IA + 5.8 % RUS_Karasuk_o" "0.0145"
[282,] "91.5 % HRV_IA + 8.5 % Sarmatian_KAZ" "0.0145"
[283,] "29.6 % England_LBA + 70.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0145"
[284,] "95.2 % HRV_IA + 4.8 % KAZ_Mereke_MBA" "0.0145"
[285,] "90.8 % HRV_IA + 9.2 % KAZ_Lisakovskiy_MLBA_Alakul" "0.0145"
[286,] "12 % CZE_Early_Slav + 88 % HRV_IA" "0.0145"
[287,] "90.7 % HRV_IA + 9.3 % IRN_Hajji_Firuz_BA" "0.0145"
[288,] "91.7 % HRV_IA + 8.3 % MNG_Hovsgol_BA_o2" "0.0145"
[289,] "59 % HUN_Prescythian_IA + 41 % HUN_Tisza_LN" "0.0145"
[290,] "61.3 % CZE_N + 38.7 % RUS_Catacomb" "0.0145"
[291,] "95.8 % HRV_IA + 4.2 % JPN_Jomon" "0.0145"
[292,] "15.7 % GRC_Minoan_Odigitria_low_res + 84.3 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0145"
[293,] "92.3 % HRV_IA + 7.7 % KAZ_Zevakinskiy_LBA" "0.0145"
[294,] "50.7 % HUN_Starcevo_N + 49.3 % KAZ_Dali_MLBA" "0.0145"
[295,] "37.4 % CZE_MN + 62.6 % HUN_Prescythian_IA" "0.0145"
[296,] "86.1 % HRV_IA + 13.9 % Yamnaya_BGR" "0.0145"
[297,] "80.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 19.4 % Yamnaya_UKR" "0.0145"
[298,] "61.2 % HUN_ALPc_Tiszadob_MN + 38.8 % RUS_Catacomb" "0.0145"
[299,] "93.8 % HRV_IA + 6.2 % KAZ_Maitan_MLBA_Alakul_o" "0.0145"
[300,] "93.7 % HRV_IA + 6.3 % MNG_Hovsgol_BA_low_res" "0.0145"
[301,] "48.6 % DEU_Lech_BBC + 51.4 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0146"
[302,] "91.1 % HRV_IA + 8.9 % KAZ_Kimak" "0.0146"
[303,] "90.5 % HRV_IA + 9.5 % KAZ_Maitan_MLBA_Alakul" "0.0146"
[304,] "91.8 % HRV_IA + 8.2 % RUS_Chalmny-Varre" "0.0146"
[305,] "90.9 % HRV_IA + 9.1 % Hun_Tian_Shan" "0.0146"
[306,] "13.3 % DEU_MA + 86.7 % HRV_IA" "0.0146"
[307,] "91.7 % HRV_IA + 8.3 % RUS_Mezhovskaya" "0.0146"
[308,] "53.8 % HUN_Starcevo_N + 46.2 % KAZ_Georgievsky_LBA" "0.0146"
[309,] "91 % HRV_IA + 9 % RUS_Krasnoyarsk_MLBA" "0.0146"
[310,] "54.1 % BGR_C + 45.9 % RUS_Srubnaya_MLBA" "0.0146"
[311,] "36.4 % DEU_LBK_N + 63.6 % HUN_Prescythian_IA" "0.0146"
[312,] "92.3 % HRV_IA + 7.7 % KAZ_Taldysay_MLBA1" "0.0146"
[313,] "91.7 % HRV_IA + 8.3 % Saka_Kazakh_steppe" "0.0146"
[314,] "15.3 % GRC_Minoan_Lassithi + 84.7 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0146"
[315,] "91.1 % HRV_IA + 8.9 % KAZ_Solyanka_MLBA" "0.0146"
[316,] "39.5 % GRC_Peloponnese_N + 60.5 % HUN_Prescythian_IA" "0.0146"
[317,] "86.8 % HRV_IA + 13.2 % Ostrogothic_Crimea_ACD" "0.0146"
[318,] "94.2 % HRV_IA + 5.8 % KEN_400BP" "0.0146"
[319,] "91.9 % HRV_IA + 8.1 % Saka_Kazakh_steppe_o2" "0.0146"
[320,] "92 % HRV_IA + 8 % UZB_Kashkarchi_BA" "0.0146"
[321,] "90.4 % HRV_IA + 9.6 % Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA" "0.0146"
[322,] "9.7 % Corded_Ware_Proto-Unetice_POL + 90.3 % HRV_IA" "0.0146"
[323,] "81.2 % HRV_IA + 18.8 % IND_Roopkund_B" "0.0146"
[324,] "94.7 % HRV_IA + 5.3 % KEN_Pastoral_N_o" "0.0146"
[325,] "30.7 % Corded_Ware_POL + 69.3 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0146"
[326,] "95.5 % HRV_IA + 4.5 % Levant_Natufian" "0.0146"
[327,] "88.5 % HUN_BA_o + 11.5 % ROU_N" "0.0146"
[328,] "40.2 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN + 59.8 % HUN_Prescythian_IA" "0.0146"
[329,] "92.5 % HRV_IA + 7.5 % RUS_Karasuk" "0.0146"
[330,] "7.9 % EGY_Late_Period + 92.1 % HRV_IA" "0.0146"
[331,] "92.1 % HRV_IA + 7.9 % Hun_Tian_Shan_o" "0.0146"
[332,] "30.1 % DNK_BA + 69.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0146"
[333,] "96.8 % HRV_IA + 3.2 % MWI_Fingira_2500BP" "0.0146"
[334,] "91.5 % HRV_IA + 8.5 % Saka_Tian_Shan" "0.0146"
[335,] "93.4 % HRV_IA + 6.6 % KAZ_Kairan_MLBA_o" "0.0146"
[336,] "96.2 % HRV_IA + 3.8 % RUS_Tyumen_HG" "0.0146"
[337,] "12.9 % Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res + 87.1 % HRV_IA" "0.0146"
[338,] "91.4 % HRV_IA + 8.6 % KAZ_Aktogai_MLBA" "0.0146"
[339,] "95.6 % HRV_IA + 4.4 % KAZ_Dali_EBA" "0.0146"
[340,] "71.8 % HRV_IA + 28.2 % ITA_Etruscan" "0.0146"
[341,] "45.3 % KAZ_Georgievsky_LBA + 54.7 % UKR_N_o" "0.0146"
[342,] "95.2 % HRV_IA + 4.8 % KEN_LSA" "0.0147"
[343,] "63.4 % HUN_Tiszapolgar_ECA + 36.6 % RUS_Afanasievo" "0.0147"
[344,] "88.6 % HRV_IA + 11.4 % Levant_LBN_MA_NE" "0.0147"
[345,] "73.7 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 26.3 % RUS_Priobrazhenka_LBA" "0.0147"
[346,] "95.1 % HRV_IA + 4.9 % RUS_Lola" "0.0147"
[347,] "87 % HUN_BA_o + 13 % HUN_LBK_MN" "0.0147"
[348,] "95.4 % HRV_IA + 4.6 % RUS_Srubnaya_MLBA_o" "0.0147"
[349,] "96.1 % HRV_IA + 3.9 % RUS_Sosonivoy_HG" "0.0147"
[350,] "96.5 % HRV_IA + 3.5 % RUS_AfontovaGora3" "0.0147"
[351,] "18.6 % Baltic_EST_Comb_Ceramic_low_res + 81.4 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0147"
[352,] "52.1 % BGR_Middle_C + 47.9 % SWE_Battle-Axe" "0.0147"
[353,] "93.8 % HRV_IA + 6.2 % RUS_Ust_Ida_LN" "0.0147"
[354,] "93.2 % HRV_IA + 6.8 % RUS_Priobrazhenka_LBA" "0.0147"
[355,] "73.5 % HUN_BA_o + 26.5 % ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA" "0.0147"
[356,] "96.7 % HRV_IA + 3.3 % MWI_Hora_9000BP" "0.0147"
[357,] "92.4 % HRV_IA + 7.6 % KAZ_Dali_MLBA" "0.0147"
[358,] "93.4 % HRV_IA + 6.6 % Levant_JOR_EBA" "0.0147"
[359,] "95.7 % HRV_IA + 4.3 % KAZ_Kumsay_EBA" "0.0147"
[360,] "82.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 17.4 % Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke" "0.0147"
[361,] "91.5 % HRV_IA + 8.5 % Scythian_Zevakino_Chilikta_IA" "0.0147"
[362,] "93.5 % HRV_IA + 6.5 % MNG_Hovsgol_BA" "0.0147"
[363,] "50.3 % HUN_Starcevo_N + 49.7 % KAZ_Mys_MLBA" "0.0147"
[364,] "92.7 % HRV_IA + 7.3 % KAZ_Taldysay_MLBA2" "0.0147"
[365,] "37.9 % HUN_Lengyel_LN + 62.1 % HUN_Prescythian_IA" "0.0147"
[366,] "96.9 % HRV_IA + 3.1 % MWI_Fingira_6100BP" "0.0147"
[367,] "83.4 % HRV_IA + 16.6 % ITA_Rome_Imperial" "0.0147"
[368,] "95.6 % HRV_IA + 4.4 % RUS_MA1" "0.0147"
[369,] "95.6 % HRV_IA + 4.4 % RUS_Steppe_Maykop" "0.0147"
[370,] "13 % CZE_MN + 87 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0147"
[371,] "90.7 % HRV_IA + 9.3 % KAZ_Karluk" "0.0147"
[372,] "13.2 % HRV_Starcevo_LN + 86.8 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0147"
[373,] "90.3 % HRV_IA + 9.7 % UKR_Cimmerian" "0.0147"
[374,] "91.9 % HRV_IA + 8.1 % UKR_Dereivka_I_En2" "0.0147"
[375,] "90.3 % HRV_IA + 9.7 % Levant_LBN_Roman" "0.0147"
[376,] "20.7 % Anatolia_Barcin_C + 79.3 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0147"
[377,] "94.6 % HRV_IA + 5.4 % RUS_Catacomb" "0.0147"
[378,] "24 % CZE_Starounetice_EBA + 76 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0147"
[379,] "38.4 % CZE_N + 61.6 % HUN_Prescythian_IA" "0.0147"
[380,] "91.8 % HRV_IA + 8.2 % KAZ_Kangju" "0.0147"
[381,] "83.7 % HRV_IA + 16.3 % Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES" "0.0147"
[382,] "91.7 % HRV_IA + 8.3 % RUS_Srubnaya_MLBA" "0.0147"
[383,] "94.6 % HRV_IA + 5.4 % RUS_Ust_Ida_EBA" "0.0147"
[384,] "91.6 % HRV_IA + 8.4 % RUS_Sintashta_MLBA" "0.0147"
[385,] "94 % HRV_IA + 6 % RUS_Baikal_MA" "0.0147"
[386,] "9.3 % ARM_LBA + 90.7 % HRV_IA" "0.0147"
[387,] "45.2 % BGR_C + 54.8 % SWE_IA" "0.0147"
[388,] "94.3 % HRV_IA + 5.7 % RUS_Sintashta_MLBA_o2" "0.0147"
[389,] "91.4 % HRV_IA + 8.6 % KAZ_Kairan_MLBA" "0.0147"
[390,] "94.9 % HRV_IA + 5.1 % Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash" "0.0147"
[391,] "95 % HRV_IA + 5 % TZA_Luxmanda_3100BP" "0.0147"
[392,] "76.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 23.4 % Sarmatian_RUS_Pokrovka" "0.0147"
[393,] "78.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 21.9 % RUS_Potapovka_MLBA" "0.0148"
[394,] "95.6 % HRV_IA + 4.4 % RUS_Khvalynsk_En" "0.0148"
[395,] "96.2 % HRV_IA + 3.8 % TZA_Zanzibar_1300BP" "0.0148"
[396,] "93.6 % HRV_IA + 6.4 % RUS_Potapovka_MLBA" "0.0148"
[397,] "8.7 % ARM_Lchashen_MBA + 91.3 % HRV_IA" "0.0148"
[398,] "96.2 % HRV_IA + 3.8 % KAZ_Botai" "0.0148"
[399,] "92.7 % HRV_IA + 7.3 % TJK_Dashti_Kozy_BA" "0.0148"
[400,] "87.6 % HRV_IA + 12.4 % HUN_MA" "0.0148"
[401,] "90.9 % HRV_IA + 9.1 % KAZ_Kipchak" "0.0148"
[402,] "52.3 % HUN_LBK_MN + 47.7 % KAZ_Satan_MLBA_Alakul" "0.0148"
[403,] "89.9 % HRV_IA + 10.1 % POL_Unetice_EBA" "0.0148"
[404,] "90.4 % HRV_IA + 9.6 % USA_colonial_period" "0.0148"
[405,] "94.9 % HRV_IA + 5.1 % RUS_Afanasievo" "0.0148"
[406,] "6.6 % Baltic_LTU_BA + 93.4 % HRV_IA" "0.0148"
[407,] "83.8 % HRV_IA + 16.2 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0148"
[408,] "97.1 % HRV_IA + 2.9 % MWI_Chencherere_5200BP" "0.0148"
[409,] "76.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 23.6 % KAZ_Taldysay_MLBA2" "0.0148"
[410,] "12.3 % DEU_Alberstedt_LN + 87.7 % HRV_IA" "0.0148"
[411,] "13.2 % CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany + 86.8 % HRV_IA" "0.0148"
[412,] "15.1 % Gepidian_SRB_ACD + 84.9 % HRV_IA" "0.0148"
[413,] "91.6 % HRV_IA + 8.4 % Levant_Canaanite_MBA" "0.0148"
[414,] "87.6 % HUN_BA_o + 12.4 % SRB_N" "0.0148"
[415,] "95.9 % HRV_IA + 4.1 % RUS_Sintashta_MLBA_o3" "0.0148"
[416,] "96.2 % HRV_IA + 3.8 % RUS_Sintashta_MLBA_o1" "0.0148"
[417,] "93.8 % HRV_IA + 6.2 % RUS_Kubano-Tersk_Late" "0.0148"
[418,] "92.4 % HRV_IA + 7.6 % RUS_Petrovka_MLBA" "0.0148"
[419,] "91.5 % HRV_IA + 8.5 % TJK_Ksirov_H_Kushan" "0.0148"
[420,] "92.9 % HRV_IA + 7.1 % KAZ_Alpamsa_MLBA_Alakul" "0.0148"
[421,] "93 % HRV_IA + 7 % KAZ_Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA" "0.0148"
[422,] "94.9 % HRV_IA + 5.1 % RUS_Poltavka" "0.0148"
[423,] "7.7 % Corded_Ware_Baltic + 92.3 % HRV_IA" "0.0148"
[424,] "51.6 % KAZ_Lisakovskiy_MLBA_Alakul + 48.4 % UKR_N_o" "0.0148"
[425,] "6.6 % Baltic_EST_IA + 93.4 % HRV_IA" "0.0148"
[426,] "96.1 % HRV_IA + 3.9 % RUS_Samara_HG" "0.0148"
[427,] "15.1 % Bell_Beaker_CHE + 84.9 % HRV_IA" "0.0148"
[428,] "91 % HRV_IA + 9 % HUN_Avar_Szolad" "0.0148"
[429,] "93 % HRV_IA + 7 % KAZ_Karagash_MLBA" "0.0148"
[430,] "95.3 % HRV_IA + 4.7 % Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke" "0.0148"
[431,] "96.2 % HRV_IA + 3.8 % RUS_Karelia_HG" "0.0148"
[432,] "94.6 % HRV_IA + 5.4 % RUS_Ust_Belaya" "0.0148"
[433,] "95.8 % HRV_IA + 4.2 % KAZ_Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA_o" "0.0148"
[434,] "96.6 % HRV_IA + 3.4 % VUT_2000BP" "0.0148"
[435,] "93.8 % HRV_IA + 6.2 % KAZ_Georgievsky_LBA" "0.0148"
[436,] "59.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 40.7 % Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL" "0.0148"
[437,] "93.5 % HRV_IA + 6.5 % KAZ_Zevakinskiy_MLBA" "0.0148"
[438,] "85.4 % HRV_IA + 14.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad" "0.0148"
[439,] "5.2 % Baltic_LVA_BA + 94.8 % HRV_IA" "0.0148"
[440,] "90.1 % HRV_IA + 9.9 % SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna" "0.0148"
[441,] "75.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 24.7 % POL_EBA" "0.0148"
[442,] "4.1 % ETH_4500BP + 95.9 % HRV_IA" "0.0148"
[443,] "93.8 % HRV_IA + 6.2 % RUS_Baikal_N" "0.0148"
[444,] "92.4 % HRV_IA + 7.6 % IRN_Hajji_Firuz_IA" "0.0148"
[445,] "55 % England_EMBA + 45 % GRC_Peloponnese_N" "0.0148"
[446,] "7 % Corded_Ware_DEU + 93 % HRV_IA" "0.0148"
[447,] "87.3 % HUN_BA_o + 12.7 % ITA_Grotta_Continenza_N" "0.0149"
[448,] "94.8 % HRV_IA + 5.2 % Yamnaya_UKR" "0.0149"
[449,] "74.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 25.8 % Saka_Tian_Shan" "0.0149"
[450,] "93.6 % HRV_IA + 6.4 % KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro" "0.0149"
[451,] "92.8 % HRV_IA + 7.2 % KAZ_Shoendykol_MLBA_Fedorovo" "0.0149"
[452,] "85 % HRV_IA + 15 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0149"
[453,] "95.5 % HRV_IA + 4.5 % KEN_Early_Pastoral_N" "0.0149"
[454,] "95.7 % HRV_IA + 4.3 % KEN_Pastoral_N" "0.0149"

vbnetkhio
11-11-2019, 06:18 PM
part 2


[455,] "85.5 % HUN_BA_o + 14.5 % HUN_Tisza_LN" "0.0149"
[456,] "95.1 % HRV_IA + 4.9 % Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia" "0.0149"
[457,] "65.3 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 34.7 % IRL_BA" "0.0149"
[458,] "5.1 % Baltic_LTU_Late_Antiquity_low_res + 94.9 % HRV_IA" "0.0149"
[459,] "5 % Baltic_EST_BA + 95 % HRV_IA" "0.0149"
[460,] "95.4 % HRV_IA + 4.6 % RUS_Progress_En" "0.0149"
[461,] "91.8 % HRV_IA + 8.2 % POL_Chopice_Wesele_Culture" "0.0149"
[462,] "23.1 % BGR_MLBA + 76.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0149"
[463,] "92.8 % HRV_IA + 7.2 % RUS_Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA" "0.0149"
[464,] "87.8 % HUN_BA_o + 12.2 % HUN_Starcevo_N" "0.0149"
[465,] "95.8 % HRV_IA + 4.2 % USA_Alaska_TrailCreek_9000BP" "0.0149"
[466,] "6 % DEU_Karsdorf_LN + 94 % HRV_IA" "0.0149"
[467,] "93.1 % HRV_IA + 6.9 % Sarmatian_RUS_Caspian_steppe" "0.0149"
[468,] "95.3 % HRV_IA + 4.7 % Yamnaya_RUS_Samara" "0.0149"
[469,] "95.1 % HRV_IA + 4.9 % RUS_Bolshoy_Oleni_Ostrov" "0.0149"
[470,] "94.5 % HRV_IA + 5.5 % RUS_Lokomotiv_N" "0.0149"
[471,] "93 % HRV_IA + 7 % KAZ_Kyzlbulak_MLBA1" "0.0149"
[472,] "51.6 % HUN_Starcevo_N + 48.4 % KAZ_Taldysay_MLBA1" "0.0149"
[473,] "51.1 % DEU_MA_ACD + 48.9 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0149"
[474,] "87.7 % HUN_BA_o + 12.3 % HUN_Vinca_MN" "0.0149"
[475,] "93.9 % HRV_IA + 6.1 % Levant_ISR_C" "0.0149"
[476,] "82 % HRV_IA + 18 % Levant_LBN_MA_Mixed" "0.0149"
[477,] "22 % DEU_Karsdorf_LN + 78 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0149"
[478,] "95.6 % HRV_IA + 4.4 % RUS_Vonyuchka_En" "0.0149"
[479,] "56.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 43.8 % Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES" "0.0149"
[480,] "93.7 % HRV_IA + 6.3 % Sarmatian_RUS_Caucasus" "0.0149"
[481,] "48.8 % Corded_Ware_DEU + 51.2 % HUN_Sopot_LN" "0.0149"
[482,] "92.7 % HRV_IA + 7.3 % UKR_Srubnaya_MLBA" "0.0149"
[483,] "82.7 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 17.3 % RUS_Karelia_HG" "0.0149"
[484,] "95.8 % HRV_IA + 4.2 % KEN_Pastoral_N_Elmenteitan" "0.0149"
[485,] "93.6 % HRV_IA + 6.4 % KGZ_Turk" "0.0149"
[486,] "5.1 % Corded_Ware_Baltic_early + 94.9 % HRV_IA" "0.0149"
[487,] "11.9 % HRV_Sopot_MN + 88.1 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0149"
[488,] "11.2 % HRV_Cardial_N + 88.8 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0149"
[489,] "12.1 % DEU_LBK_N + 87.9 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0149"
[490,] "95.1 % HRV_IA + 4.9 % KAZ_Golden_Horde_Asian" "0.0149"
[491,] "11.9 % Anatolia_Barcin_N + 88.1 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0149"
[492,] "93.6 % HRV_IA + 6.4 % UZB_Kokcha_BA" "0.0149"
[493,] "92.5 % HRV_IA + 7.5 % Scythian_RUS_Urals" "0.0149"
[494,] "85.9 % HUN_BA_o + 14.1 % SRB_Starcevo_N" "0.0149"
[495,] "7.3 % Corded_Ware_CZE + 92.7 % HRV_IA" "0.0149"
[496,] "93.5 % HRV_IA + 6.5 % RUS_Poltavka_o" "0.0149"
[497,] "94.8 % HRV_IA + 5.2 % RUS_Shamanka_N" "0.0149"
[498,] "95.3 % HRV_IA + 4.7 % RUS_Kubano-Tersk" "0.0149"
[499,] "94.7 % HRV_IA + 5.3 % KAZ_Kyzlbulak_MLBA2" "0.0149"
[500,] "50.1 % BGR_C + 49.9 % SWE_Battle-Axe" "0.0149"
[501,] "93.7 % HRV_IA + 6.3 % RUS_Yana_UP" "0.0149"
[502,] "10.5 % England_Roman + 89.5 % HRV_IA" "0.0149"
[503,] "95.3 % HRV_IA + 4.7 % RUS_Shamanka_EBA" "0.0149"
[504,] "8.4 % DNK_BA + 91.6 % HRV_IA" "0.0149"
[505,] "92.6 % HRV_IA + 7.4 % KAZ_Ak_Moustafa_MLBA1" "0.0149"
[506,] "59.9 % HUN_BA_o + 40.1 % ITA_Rome_MA" "0.015"
[507,] "94.7 % HRV_IA + 5.3 % KAZ_Nomad_HP" "0.015"
[508,] "31.3 % Corded_Ware_CZE + 68.7 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.015"
[509,] "15.1 % BGR_IA + 84.9 % HRV_IA" "0.015"
[510,] "94.6 % HRV_IA + 5.4 % RUS_Steppe_Maykop_o" "0.015"
[511,] "42.1 % Bell_Beaker_FRA_C + 57.9 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.015"
[512,] "87.7 % HRV_IA + 12.3 % Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE" "0.015"
[513,] "95.5 % HRV_IA + 4.5 % RUS_Kolyma_Meso" "0.015"
[514,] "95.2 % HRV_IA + 4.8 % RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N" "0.015"
[515,] "93.3 % HRV_IA + 6.7 % MNG_XiongNu_WE" "0.015"
[516,] "64.2 % HUN_BA_o + 35.8 % ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity" "0.015"
[517,] "37.7 % HRV_Starcevo_LN + 62.3 % HUN_Prescythian_IA" "0.015"
[518,] "95.7 % HRV_IA + 4.3 % KGZ_Aigyrzhal_BA" "0.015"
[519,] "96 % HRV_IA + 4 % TZN_PN" "0.015"
[520,] "98.2 % HRV_IA + 1.8 % MAR_Iberomaurusian" "0.015"
[521,] "92.9 % HRV_IA + 7.1 % KAZ_Katon_Karagay_LBA" "0.015"
[522,] "59.4 % HUN_Prescythian_IA + 40.6 % SRB_Starcevo_N" "0.015"
[523,] "82 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 18 % Yamnaya_RUS_Samara" "0.015"
[524,] "91.5 % HRV_IA + 8.5 % KAZ_Turk" "0.015"
[525,] "97.9 % HRV_IA + 2.1 % ZAF_1200BP" "0.015"
[526,] "94.1 % HRV_IA + 5.9 % Sarmatian_RUS_Pokrovka" "0.015"
[527,] "36.7 % HUN_LBK_MN + 63.3 % Yamnaya_BGR" "0.015"
[528,] "4.8 % Canary_Islands_Guanche + 95.2 % HRV_IA" "0.015"
[529,] "87.7 % HUN_BA_o + 12.3 % HUN_Sopot_LN" "0.015"
[530,] "50.1 % Corded_Ware_DEU + 49.9 % HRV_Sopot_MN" "0.015"
[531,] "92.2 % HRV_IA + 7.8 % RUS_Alan_MA" "0.015"
[532,] "94 % HRV_IA + 6 % TKM_IA" "0.015"
[533,] "62.1 % CZE_N + 37.9 % RUS_Afanasievo" "0.015"
[534,] "93.4 % HRV_IA + 6.6 % Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2" "0.015"
[535,] "44.3 % HUN_LBK_MN + 55.7 % SWE_Battle-Axe" "0.015"
[536,] "5.8 % Baltic_EST_MA + 94.2 % HRV_IA" "0.015"
[537,] "92.8 % HRV_IA + 7.2 % IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C" "0.015"
[538,] "96.6 % HRV_IA + 3.4 % RUS_Sidelkino_HG" "0.015"
[539,] "16.4 % BGR_Krepost_N + 83.6 % HUN_BA_o" "0.015"
[540,] "19.7 % Corded_Ware_Baltic_early + 80.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.015"
[541,] "50 % HUN_Starcevo_N + 50 % Sarmatian_KAZ" "0.015"
[542,] "75.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 24.3 % RUS_Chalmny-Varre" "0.015"
[543,] "13 % DEU_Lech_MBA + 87 % HRV_IA" "0.015"
[544,] "81.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 18.4 % RUS_Catacomb" "0.015"
[545,] "28.3 % Corded_Ware_Proto-Unetice_POL + 71.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.015"
[546,] "38.6 % Bell_Beaker_POL + 61.4 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.015"
[547,] "8.4 % CZE_Unetice_EBA + 91.6 % HRV_IA" "0.015"
[548,] "95.4 % HRV_IA + 4.6 % IND_Great_Andamanese_100BP" "0.015"
[549,] "10.7 % Anatolia_Barcin_C + 89.3 % HRV_IA" "0.015"
[550,] "7.4 % ARM_MBA + 92.6 % HRV_IA" "0.015"
[551,] "93.4 % HRV_IA + 6.6 % KAZ_Molaly_LBA" "0.015"
[552,] "97.7 % HRV_IA + 2.3 % VUT_1200BP" "0.015"
[553,] "97.6 % HRV_IA + 2.4 % VUT_150BP" "0.015"
[554,] "94 % HRV_IA + 6 % Yamnaya_UKR_Ozera_o" "0.015"
[555,] "92.5 % HRV_IA + 7.5 % UZB_Sappali_Tepe_BA_o" "0.015"
[556,] "74.6 % HUN_BA_o + 25.4 % ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA" "0.015"
[557,] "81.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 18.4 % RUS_Poltavka" "0.015"
[558,] "36.7 % AUT_LBK_N + 63.3 % HUN_Prescythian_IA" "0.015"
[559,] "12.1 % Anatolia_Boncuklu_N + 87.9 % HUN_BA_o" "0.015"
[560,] "95.2 % HRV_IA + 4.8 % Levant_PPNB" "0.015"
[561,] "98.7 % HRV_IA + 1.3 % ZAF_2100BP" "0.015"
[562,] "35.5 % England_Saxon + 64.5 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0151"
[563,] "95.2 % HRV_IA + 4.8 % Levant_PPNC" "0.0151"
[564,] "88.5 % HUN_BA_o + 11.5 % HUN_Koros_N" "0.0151"
[565,] "23.2 % DEU_Lech_MBA + 76.8 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0151"
[566,] "96.7 % HRV_IA + 3.3 % USA_Ancient_Beringian" "0.0151"
[567,] "87.5 % HUN_BA_o + 12.5 % HUN_Lengyel_LN" "0.0151"
[568,] "9.9 % GRC_N + 90.1 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0151"
[569,] "96 % HRV_IA + 4 % TKM_Gonur1_BA_o" "0.0151"
[570,] "94.6 % HRV_IA + 5.4 % KAZ_Georgievsky2_LBA" "0.0151"
[571,] "94.4 % HRV_IA + 5.6 % Saka_Kazakh_steppe_o1" "0.0151"
[572,] "74.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 25.4 % KAZ_Wusun" "0.0151"
[573,] "7.5 % CZE_EBA + 92.5 % HRV_IA" "0.0151"
[574,] "89.9 % HRV_IA + 10.1 % IND_Roopkund_B_o" "0.0151"
[575,] "36 % HUN_Starcevo_N + 64 % Yamnaya_BGR" "0.0151"
[576,] "8 % DEU_Unetice_EBA + 92 % HRV_IA" "0.0151"
[577,] "53.6 % BGR_C + 46.4 % KAZ_Ak_Moustafa_MLBA1" "0.0151"
[578,] "13.5 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN + 86.5 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0151"
[579,] "50.4 % GRC_Peloponnese_N + 49.6 % KAZ_Ak_Moustafa_MLBA1" "0.0151"
[580,] "94.8 % HRV_IA + 5.2 % PAK_Gogdara_IA" "0.0151"
[581,] "95.4 % HRV_IA + 4.6 % LAO_Hoabinhian" "0.0151"
[582,] "70.7 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 29.3 % RUS_Mezhovskaya" "0.0151"
[583,] "86.3 % HRV_IA + 13.7 % ITA_Tivoli_Renaissance" "0.0151"
[584,] "97.7 % HRV_IA + 2.3 % VUT_1100BP" "0.0151"
[585,] "5.9 % CHN_Shirenzigou_IA + 94.1 % HRV_IA" "0.0151"
[586,] "94 % HRV_IA + 6 % Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps" "0.0151"
[587,] "18.8 % GRC_Mycenaean + 81.2 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0151"
[588,] "7.9 % DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN + 92.1 % HRV_IA" "0.0151"
[589,] "88 % HRV_IA + 12 % ITA_Collegno_MA_o1" "0.0151"
[590,] "98.8 % HRV_IA + 1.2 % ZAF_2000BP" "0.0151"
[591,] "95.2 % HRV_IA + 4.8 % SWE_LN_low_res" "0.0151"
[592,] "52 % IRN_Hajji_Firuz_BA + 48 % UKR_N_o" "0.0151"
[593,] "94.1 % HRV_IA + 5.9 % PAK_Udegram_MA_Ghaznavid" "0.0151"
[594,] "9.6 % Bell_Beaker_CZE + 90.4 % HRV_IA" "0.0151"
[595,] "10.9 % HRV_Impressa_N + 89.1 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0151"
[596,] "97.8 % HRV_IA + 2.2 % VUT_2500BP" "0.0151"
[597,] "68.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 31.6 % RUS_Nomad_MA" "0.0151"
[598,] "94.6 % HRV_IA + 5.4 % KAZ_Bylkyldak_MLBA" "0.0151"
[599,] "90.5 % HRV_IA + 9.5 % ITA_Etruscan_o" "0.0151"
[600,] "71.4 % HUN_BA_o + 28.6 % Levant_LBN_MA_Mixed" "0.0151"
[601,] "7.5 % England_Saxon + 92.5 % HRV_IA" "0.0151"
[602,] "6.8 % Bell_Beaker_NLD + 93.2 % HRV_IA" "0.0151"
[603,] "83.7 % HUN_BA_o + 16.3 % ITA_Rome_Latini_IA" "0.0151"
[604,] "4.1 % Anatolia_Kumtepe_N_low_res + 95.9 % HRV_IA" "0.0151"
[605,] "85.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 14.9 % RUS_Sintashta_MLBA_o3" "0.0151"
[606,] "94.7 % HRV_IA + 5.3 % RUS_Ust_Ishim" "0.0151"
[607,] "52.8 % KAZ_Maitan_MLBA_Alakul + 47.2 % UKR_N_o" "0.0151"
[608,] "94.3 % HRV_IA + 5.7 % KAZ_Chanchar_LBA" "0.0151"
[609,] "47 % HUN_Starcevo_N + 53 % KAZ_Ak_Moustafa_MLBA1" "0.0151"
[610,] "9.7 % Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA + 90.3 % HRV_IA" "0.0151"
[611,] "63.9 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN + 36.1 % RUS_Afanasievo" "0.0151"
[612,] "94.1 % HRV_IA + 5.9 % Levant_ISR_MLBA" "0.0151"
[613,] "8.7 % Anatolia_IA_low_res + 91.3 % HRV_IA" "0.0151"
[614,] "86.9 % HRV_IA + 13.1 % ITA_Rome_Renaissance" "0.0151"
[615,] "39.1 % RUS_Afanasievo + 60.9 % UKR_N_o" "0.0151"
[616,] "96.5 % HRV_IA + 3.5 % KEN_Pastoral_IA" "0.0151"
[617,] "37.4 % HRV_Starcevo_LN + 62.6 % Yamnaya_BGR" "0.0151"
[618,] "7 % Bell_Beaker_Scotland + 93 % HRV_IA" "0.0151"
[619,] "8 % Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale + 92 % HRV_IA" "0.0151"
[620,] "95.2 % HRV_IA + 4.8 % KAZ_Hun-Sarmatian" "0.0151"
[621,] "6.8 % DNK_MN_B + 93.2 % HRV_IA" "0.0151"
[622,] "84.8 % HRV_IA + 15.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0151"
[623,] "48.8 % KAZ_Mys_MLBA + 51.2 % UKR_N_o" "0.0151"
[624,] "95.7 % HRV_IA + 4.3 % IND_Roopkund_A" "0.0151"
[625,] "38.4 % BGR_Varna_En3 + 61.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0152"
[626,] "98.5 % HRV_IA + 1.5 % MAR_EN" "0.0152"
[627,] "48.1 % BGR_C + 51.9 % England_EMBA" "0.0152"
[628,] "4.1 % DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier2 + 95.9 % HRV_IA" "0.0152"
[629,] "6.9 % Bell_Beaker_England + 93.1 % HRV_IA" "0.0152"
[630,] "95.3 % HRV_IA + 4.7 % PAK_Aligrama_H" "0.0152"
[631,] "7.4 % CZE_Bilina_BA + 92.6 % HRV_IA" "0.0152"
[632,] "11.7 % AUT_LBK_N + 88.3 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0152"
[633,] "3.1 % Baltic_EST_Comb_Ceramic_low_res + 96.9 % HRV_IA" "0.0152"
[634,] "83 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 17 % RUS_Vonyuchka_En" "0.0152"
[635,] "36 % DEU_Lech_EBA + 64 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0152"
[636,] "51.6 % RUS_Krasnoyarsk_MLBA + 48.4 % UKR_N_o" "0.0152"
[637,] "13.5 % BGR_Late_C + 86.5 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0152"
[638,] "63.2 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN + 36.8 % RUS_Catacomb" "0.0152"
[639,] "20.1 % Bell_Beaker_ITA + 79.9 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0152"
[640,] "98.3 % HRV_IA + 1.7 % VUT_2300BP_all" "0.0152"
[641,] "38.4 % CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany + 61.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0152"
[642,] "95.3 % HRV_IA + 4.7 % PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H" "0.0152"
[643,] "54.7 % DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN + 45.3 % GRC_Peloponnese_N" "0.0152"
[644,] "11.3 % DEU_Lech_BBC + 88.7 % HRV_IA" "0.0152"
[645,] "93.2 % HRV_IA + 6.8 % Scotland_CA_EBA" "0.0152"
[646,] "96.1 % HRV_IA + 3.9 % UZB_Bustan_BA_o1" "0.0152"
[647,] "89.7 % HRV_IA + 10.3 % Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL" "0.0152"
[648,] "8.9 % Bell_Beaker_Bavaria + 91.1 % HRV_IA" "0.0152"
[649,] "39.8 % RUS_Catacomb + 60.2 % UKR_N_o" "0.0152"
[650,] "5.5 % Corded_Ware_POL + 94.5 % HRV_IA" "0.0152"
[651,] "94.9 % HRV_IA + 5.1 % POL_EBA" "0.0152"
[652,] "7.1 % England_MBA + 92.9 % HRV_IA" "0.0152"
[653,] "95.6 % HRV_IA + 4.4 % PAK_Katelai_IA" "0.0152"
[654,] "6.1 % DEU_Welzin_BA + 93.9 % HRV_IA" "0.0152"
[655,] "7.6 % England_IA + 92.4 % HRV_IA" "0.0152"
[656,] "95.7 % HRV_IA + 4.3 % PAK_Barikot_MA" "0.0152"
[657,] "98.2 % HRV_IA + 1.8 % VUT_150BP_all" "0.0152"
[658,] "98.2 % HRV_IA + 1.8 % VUT_500BP_all" "0.0152"
[659,] "6.2 % Bell_Beaker_FRA + 93.8 % HRV_IA" "0.0152"
[660,] "84.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 15.1 % RUS_Steppe_Maykop" "0.0152"
[661,] "70.6 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 29.4 % KAZ_Shoendykol_MLBA_Fedorovo" "0.0152"
[662,] "94.9 % HRV_IA + 5.1 % Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kalavan" "0.0152"
[663,] "94.5 % HRV_IA + 5.5 % RUS_Maykop" "0.0152"
[664,] "48.9 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 51.1 % ITA_Rome_Renaissance" "0.0152"
[665,] "90.9 % HRV_IA + 9.1 % Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE" "0.0152"
[666,] "95.7 % HRV_IA + 4.3 % PAK_Loebanr_IA" "0.0152"
[667,] "95.2 % HRV_IA + 4.8 % KAZ_Turk_o" "0.0152"
[668,] "5.5 % Bell_Beaker_Rhine-Main + 94.5 % HRV_IA" "0.0152"
[669,] "95.3 % HRV_IA + 4.7 % RUS_Maykop_Late" "0.0152"
[670,] "30.1 % DEU_Halberstadt_LBA + 69.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0152"
[671,] "72.8 % ITA_Etruscan + 27.2 % Yamnaya_BGR" "0.0152"
[672,] "96.7 % HRV_IA + 3.3 % PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o" "0.0152"
[673,] "96.4 % HRV_IA + 3.6 % MNG_Hovsgol_BA_o1" "0.0152"
[674,] "64 % HUN_Tisza_LN + 36 % RUS_Catacomb" "0.0152"
[675,] "6.4 % England_CA_EBA + 93.6 % HRV_IA" "0.0152"
[676,] "94.3 % HRV_IA + 5.7 % NLD_BA" "0.0152"
[677,] "94.9 % HRV_IA + 5.1 % IRN_Hasanlu_IA" "0.0152"
[678,] "87.1 % HUN_BA_o + 12.9 % HUN_Tiszapolgar_ECA" "0.0152"
[679,] "52.5 % HUN_Sopot_LN + 47.5 % KAZ_Satan_MLBA_Alakul" "0.0152"
[680,] "63.5 % HUN_Prescythian_IA + 36.5 % HUN_Vinca_MN" "0.0152"
[681,] "48.9 % HUN_Starcevo_N + 51.1 % RUS_Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA" "0.0153"
[682,] "96.1 % HRV_IA + 3.9 % PAK_Aligrama_IA" "0.0153"
[683,] "96.5 % HRV_IA + 3.5 % UKR_Catacomb" "0.0153"
[684,] "95.9 % HRV_IA + 4.1 % PAK_Udegram_IA" "0.0153"
[685,] "4.4 % BGR_MLBA + 95.6 % HRV_IA" "0.0153"
[686,] "97.1 % HRV_IA + 2.9 % RUS_Magadan_BA" "0.0153"
[687,] "82.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 17.8 % RUS_Afanasievo" "0.0153"
[688,] "96.1 % HRV_IA + 3.9 % RUS_Saltovo-Mayaki_low_res" "0.0153"
[689,] "97.9 % HRV_IA + 2.1 % USA_AK_Athabaskan_1100BP" "0.0153"
[690,] "87.9 % HRV_IA + 12.1 % Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE" "0.0153"
[691,] "96.2 % HRV_IA + 3.8 % RUS_North_Caucasus_MBA" "0.0153"
[692,] "92.9 % HRV_IA + 7.1 % HUN_LBA" "0.0153"
[693,] "96.4 % HRV_IA + 3.6 % RUS_Darkveti-Meshoko_En" "0.0153"
[694,] "95.6 % HRV_IA + 4.4 % UZB_Dzharkutan2_BA" "0.0153"
[695,] "96.7 % HRV_IA + 3.3 % RUS_LBA" "0.0153"
[696,] "95.8 % HRV_IA + 4.2 % PAK_Barikot_H" "0.0153"
[697,] "9.3 % DEU_MA_o + 90.7 % HRV_IA" "0.0153"
[698,] "97.8 % HRV_IA + 2.2 % USA_AK_Neo-Aleut" "0.0153"
[699,] "98.4 % HRV_IA + 1.6 % VUT_1300BP_all" "0.0153"
[700,] "39.9 % RUS_Poltavka + 60.1 % UKR_N_o" "0.0153"
[701,] "93.3 % HRV_IA + 6.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o2" "0.0153"
[702,] "93.4 % HRV_IA + 6.6 % SVK_Poprad_MA" "0.0153"
[703,] "75.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 24.1 % KAZ_Alpamsa_MLBA_Alakul" "0.0153"
[704,] "6.6 % Bell_Beaker_POL + 93.4 % HRV_IA" "0.0153"
[705,] "74.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 25.9 % KAZ_Molaly_LBA" "0.0153"
[706,] "94.4 % HRV_IA + 5.6 % IRL_BA" "0.0153"
[707,] "5.4 % England_LBA + 94.6 % HRV_IA" "0.0153"
[708,] "95.9 % HRV_IA + 4.1 % PAK_Singoor_MA" "0.0153"
[709,] "3.6 % CHN_Tianyuan + 96.4 % HRV_IA" "0.0153"
[710,] "25.9 % FIN_Levanluhta_IA_o + 74.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0153"
[711,] "80.2 % HUN_BA_o + 19.8 % ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o" "0.0153"
[712,] "30.6 % FIN_Levanluhta_IA_o + 69.4 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0153"
[713,] "83.8 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 16.2 % RUS_Lola" "0.0153"
[714,] "96.3 % HRV_IA + 3.7 % PAK_Barikot_IA" "0.0153"
[715,] "96.7 % HRV_IA + 3.3 % UZB_Bustan_BA" "0.0153"
[716,] "30.4 % Corded_Ware_Baltic + 69.6 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0153"
[717,] "7.5 % DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3 + 92.5 % HRV_IA" "0.0153"
[718,] "96.5 % HRV_IA + 3.5 % PAK_Loebanr_IA_o" "0.0153"
[719,] "6.9 % Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA + 93.1 % HRV_IA" "0.0153"
[720,] "82.8 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 17.2 % RUS_Progress_En" "0.0153"
[721,] "98.1 % HRV_IA + 1.9 % USA_AK_Paleo-Aleut" "0.0153"
[722,] "98.5 % HRV_IA + 1.5 % USA_WA_Kennewick" "0.0153"
[723,] "7.1 % Bell_Beaker_FRA_C + 92.9 % HRV_IA" "0.0153"
[724,] "97.1 % HRV_IA + 2.9 % TKM_Gonur2_BA" "0.0153"
[725,] "94.4 % HRV_IA + 5.6 % UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky" "0.0153"
[726,] "96.8 % HRV_IA + 3.2 % Iberia_Central_CA_Afr" "0.0153"
[727,] "1.2 % CHL_Kaweskar_1000BP + 98.8 % HRV_IA" "0.0153"
[728,] "6.8 % DEU_Lech_EBA + 93.2 % HRV_IA" "0.0153"
[729,] "96.8 % HRV_IA + 3.2 % UZB_Sappali_Tepe2_BA" "0.0153"
[730,] "91.6 % HRV_IA + 8.4 % HUN_BA" "0.0153"
[731,] "96.3 % HRV_IA + 3.7 % Kura-Araxes_RUS_Velikent" "0.0153"
[732,] "1.2 % ARG_LagunaChica_6800BP + 98.8 % HRV_IA" "0.0153"
[733,] "98.8 % HRV_IA + 1.2 % USA_San_Nicolas_L" "0.0154"
[734,] "1.6 % CAN_6000BP + 98.4 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[735,] "65 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 35 % Scotland_CA_EBA" "0.0154"
[736,] "94.4 % HRV_IA + 5.6 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0154"
[737,] "97.6 % HRV_IA + 2.4 % TJK_Sarazm_En" "0.0154"
[738,] "39.8 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN + 60.2 % Yamnaya_BGR" "0.0154"
[739,] "62 % BGR_IA + 38 % SWE_IA" "0.0154"
[740,] "98.7 % HRV_IA + 1.3 % USA_NM_Chaco" "0.0154"
[741,] "1.5 % CAN_BigBar_5700BP + 98.5 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[742,] "97.3 % HRV_IA + 2.7 % IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2" "0.0154"
[743,] "4.1 % FIN_Levanluhta_IA_o + 95.9 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[744,] "35.5 % HUN_Koros_N + 64.5 % HUN_Prescythian_IA" "0.0154"
[745,] "96.9 % HRV_IA + 3.1 % UZB_Bustan_BA_o2" "0.0154"
[746,] "98.8 % HRV_IA + 1.2 % USA_Anzick" "0.0154"
[747,] "98.3 % HRV_IA + 1.7 % RUS_Old_Bering_Ekven" "0.0154"
[748,] "96.9 % HRV_IA + 3.1 % PAK_Butkara_H" "0.0154"
[749,] "95 % HRV_IA + 5 % Scotland_MBA" "0.0154"
[750,] "97.3 % HRV_IA + 2.7 % UZB_Dzharkutan1_BA" "0.0154"
[751,] "98.9 % HRV_IA + 1.1 % USA_Island_Chumash_SanMiguel" "0.0154"
[752,] "98.8 % HRV_IA + 1.2 % USA_San_Francisco_May" "0.0154"
[753,] "23.4 % FIN_Levanluhta_IA + 76.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0154"
[754,] "1.1 % BLZ_SakiTzul_7400BP + 98.9 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[755,] "82.1 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 17.9 % RUS_Sidelkino_HG" "0.0154"
[756,] "98.8 % HRV_IA + 1.2 % MEX_Pericues" "0.0154"
[757,] "96.5 % HRV_IA + 3.5 % RUS_Maykop_Novosvobodnaya" "0.0154"
[758,] "1.1 % BHS_Taino + 98.9 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[759,] "98.9 % HRV_IA + 1.1 % USA_Mainland_Chumash" "0.0154"
[760,] "1.1 % CHL_Yamana_1000BP + 98.9 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[761,] "98.9 % HRV_IA + 1.1 % USA_Spirit_Cave_11000BP" "0.0154"
[762,] "97.2 % HRV_IA + 2.8 % VNM_BA_DongSonCulture" "0.0154"
[763,] "97.4 % HRV_IA + 2.6 % TKM_Parkhai_LBA_o" "0.0154"
[764,] "74.5 % HUN_BA_o + 25.5 % Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE" "0.0154"
[765,] "98.9 % HRV_IA + 1.1 % USA_San_Catalina_Island" "0.0154"
[766,] "99 % HRV_IA + 1 % PER_LaGalgada_4100BP" "0.0154"
[767,] "97.7 % HRV_IA + 2.3 % TKM_Parkhai_MBA" "0.0154"
[768,] "1 % CHL_Conchali_700BP + 99 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[769,] "9.6 % Anatolia_Pinarbasi_HG + 90.4 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0154"
[770,] "5.6 % Anatolia_Ovaoren_EBA + 94.4 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[771,] "51.8 % RUS_Sintashta_MLBA + 48.2 % UKR_N_o" "0.0154"
[772,] "5.1 % BGR_Krepost_N + 94.9 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[773,] "56.8 % GRC_Minoan_Lassithi + 43.2 % KAZ_Satan_MLBA_Alakul" "0.0154"
[774,] "98.9 % HRV_IA + 1.1 % USA_San_Nicolas_E" "0.0154"
[775,] "98.9 % HRV_IA + 1.1 % USA_Lovelock_Cave_1850BP" "0.0154"
[776,] "1 % CHL_PuntaSantaAna_7300BP + 99 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[777,] "97 % HRV_IA + 3 % PAK_Butkara_IA" "0.0154"
[778,] "95.5 % HRV_IA + 4.5 % Wales_CA_EBA" "0.0154"
[779,] "96.1 % HRV_IA + 3.9 % SWE_LN" "0.0154"
[780,] "1 % CHL_Ayayema_5100BP + 99 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[781,] "1 % BRA_Moraes_5800BP + 99 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[782,] "1.3 % CAN_400BP + 98.7 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[783,] "1 % ARG_Fuego_Patagonian + 99 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[784,] "1 % CHL_LosRieles_5100BP + 99 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[785,] "1 % CHL_PicaOcho_700BP + 99 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[786,] "1 % CHL_LosRieles_10900BP + 99 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[787,] "1.1 % BRA_Sumidouro_10100BP + 98.9 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[788,] "1 % CHL_Fuego_Patagonian + 99 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[789,] "82.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 17.5 % Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash" "0.0154"
[790,] "98.2 % HRV_IA + 1.8 % UKR_Meso" "0.0154"
[791,] "99 % HRV_IA + 1 % PER_Cuncaicha_9000BP" "0.0154"
[792,] "99 % HRV_IA + 1 % USA_Lovelock_Cave_600BP" "0.0154"
[793,] "4.4 % DEU_Halberstadt_LBA + 95.6 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[794,] "1 % ARG_ArroyoSeco2_7700BP + 99 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[795,] "98.5 % HRV_IA + 1.5 % RUS_Old_Bering_Uelen" "0.0154"
[796,] "99.1 % HRV_IA + 0.9 % PER_Cuncaicha_4200BP" "0.0154"
[797,] "1 % BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP + 99 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[798,] "75.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 24.8 % Saka_Kazakh_steppe" "0.0154"
[799,] "97.5 % HRV_IA + 2.5 % ZAF_400BP" "0.0154"
[800,] "99 % HRV_IA + 1 % PER_RioUncallane_1800BP" "0.0154"
[801,] "0.9 % ARG_Aconcagua_500BP + 99.1 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[802,] "94.3 % HRV_IA + 5.7 % Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE" "0.0154"
[803,] "99.1 % HRV_IA + 0.9 % PER_Laramate_900BP" "0.0154"
[804,] "96.1 % HRV_IA + 3.9 % UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine" "0.0154"
[805,] "99.1 % HRV_IA + 0.9 % PER_Lauricocha_8600BP" "0.0154"
[806,] "99.1 % HRV_IA + 0.9 % PER_Lauricocha_3500BP" "0.0154"
[807,] "97.7 % HRV_IA + 2.3 % TKM_Gonur1_BA" "0.0154"
[808,] "51.4 % KAZ_Satan_MLBA_Alakul + 48.6 % MKD_N" "0.0154"
[809,] "98 % HRV_IA + 2 % TKM_Geoksyur_En" "0.0154"
[810,] "99.1 % HRV_IA + 0.9 % PER_Lauricocha_5800BP" "0.0154"
[811,] "99.1 % HRV_IA + 0.9 % PER_Cuncaicha_3300BP" "0.0154"
[812,] "99 % HRV_IA + 1 % USA_Island_Chumash_SanCruz" "0.0154"
[813,] "11.5 % HUN_Balaton_Lasinja_CA + 88.5 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0154"
[814,] "93.8 % HRV_IA + 6.2 % Levant_LBN_MA_Euro" "0.0154"
[815,] "97.9 % HRV_IA + 2.1 % TKM_Namazga_Tepe_En" "0.0154"
[816,] "0.9 % BLZ_MayahakCabPek_9300BP + 99.1 % HRV_IA" "0.0154"
[817,] "40.6 % HUN_Tisza_LN + 59.4 % Yamnaya_BGR" "0.0154"
[818,] "48.6 % HUN_Starcevo_N + 51.4 % Sarmatian_RUS_Urals" "0.0154"
[819,] "97.3 % HRV_IA + 2.7 % IRN_Seh_Gabi_C" "0.0154"
[820,] "94.4 % HRV_IA + 5.6 % Iberia_North_IA" "0.0154"
[821,] "11.7 % CZE_N + 88.3 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0154"
[822,] "97.9 % HRV_IA + 2.1 % TKM_Sumbar_LBA" "0.0154"
[823,] "58 % DEU_MA + 42 % GRC_Minoan_Lassithi" "0.0154"
[824,] "97.6 % HRV_IA + 2.4 % TZA_Pemba_600BP" "0.0154"
[825,] "64.5 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 35.5 % Scotland_MBA" "0.0155"
[826,] "6 % DEU_Roman + 94 % HRV_IA" "0.0155"
[827,] "20.9 % HUN_BA + 79.1 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0155"
[828,] "35.6 % HRV_Sopot_MN + 64.4 % Yamnaya_BGR" "0.0155"
[829,] "95 % HRV_IA + 5 % ITA_Collegno_MA_o2" "0.0155"
[830,] "98.5 % HRV_IA + 1.5 % LAO_LN_BA" "0.0155"
[831,] "97.1 % HRV_IA + 2.9 % Kura-Araxes_ARM_Talin" "0.0155"
[832,] "98.4 % HRV_IA + 1.6 % TKM_Parkhai_En" "0.0155"
[833,] "99.2 % HRV_IA + 0.8 % USA_Mainland_Chumash_NewCuyama" "0.0155"
[834,] "98.3 % HRV_IA + 1.7 % VNM_N_all" "0.0155"
[835,] "98.1 % HRV_IA + 1.9 % UZB_Sappali_Tepe_BA" "0.0155"
[836,] "1.3 % Baltic_LVA_MN + 98.7 % HRV_IA" "0.0155"
[837,] "98.1 % HRV_IA + 1.9 % VNM_BA_all" "0.0155"
[838,] "93.7 % HRV_IA + 6.3 % ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA" "0.0155"
[839,] "97.2 % HRV_IA + 2.8 % HUN_Mako_EBA" "0.0155"
[840,] "0.7 % BRA_Laranjal_6700BP + 99.3 % HRV_IA" "0.0155"
[841,] "3.4 % Anatolia_Isparta_EBA + 96.6 % HRV_IA" "0.0155"
[842,] "98.7 % HRV_IA + 1.3 % IND_Roopkund_C" "0.0155"
[843,] "35.8 % Anatolia_Barcin_N + 64.2 % HUN_Prescythian_IA" "0.0155"
[844,] "98.6 % HRV_IA + 1.4 % UZB_Bustan_En" "0.0155"
[845,] "98.1 % HRV_IA + 1.9 % RUS_Kostenki14" "0.0155"
[846,] "98.1 % HRV_IA + 1.9 % KEN_IA_Deloraine" "0.0155"
[847,] "98.8 % HRV_IA + 1.2 % NOR_Meso" "0.0155"
[848,] "98.9 % HRV_IA + 1.1 % NOR_N_HG" "0.0155"
[849,] "98.2 % HRV_IA + 1.8 % RUS_Sunghir" "0.0155"
[850,] "82.7 % HUN_BA_o + 17.3 % ITA_Etruscan_o" "0.0155"
[851,] "98.3 % HRV_IA + 1.7 % MAR_LN" "0.0155"
[852,] "98.4 % HRV_IA + 1.6 % IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C" "0.0155"
[853,] "12 % HUN_ALPc_Szakalhat_MN + 88 % HUN_BA_o" "0.0155"
[854,] "98.3 % HRV_IA + 1.7 % PAK_Arkotkila_IA" "0.0155"
[855,] "98.5 % HRV_IA + 1.5 % TKM_Namazga_Tepe_En_o" "0.0155"
[856,] "98.8 % HRV_IA + 1.2 % LAO_BA" "0.0155"
[857,] "98.9 % HRV_IA + 1.1 % UKR_N" "0.0155"
[858,] "98.8 % HRV_IA + 1.2 % TKM_Tepe_Anau_En" "0.0155"
[859,] "98.7 % HRV_IA + 1.3 % UKR_Dereivka_I_En1" "0.0155"
[860,] "60.2 % HUN_Sopot_LN + 39.8 % RUS_Catacomb" "0.0155"
[861,] "73.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 26.6 % Scythian_RUS_Urals" "0.0155"
[862,] "97.8 % HRV_IA + 2.2 % SWE_BA" "0.0155"
[863,] "54.6 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 45.4 % Levant_LBN_MA_Euro" "0.0155"
[864,] "98.5 % HRV_IA + 1.5 % MNG_XiongNu" "0.0155"
[865,] "2.4 % Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N + 97.6 % HRV_IA" "0.0155"
[866,] "3.2 % GRC_Mycenaean + 96.8 % HRV_IA" "0.0155"
[867,] "98.8 % HRV_IA + 1.2 % VNM_LN" "0.0155"
[868,] "0.9 % GEO_CHG + 99.1 % HRV_IA" "0.0155"
[869,] "97 % HRV_IA + 3 % Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1" "0.0155"
[870,] "98.9 % HRV_IA + 1.1 % IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1" "0.0155"
[871,] "1.8 % DNK_LN + 98.2 % HRV_IA" "0.0155"
[872,] "96.5 % HRV_IA + 3.5 % ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA" "0.0155"
[873,] "98.2 % HRV_IA + 1.8 % Scythian_MDA_o2" "0.0155"
[874,] "96.2 % HRV_IA + 3.8 % ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA" "0.0155"
[875,] "34.4 % HRV_Impressa_N + 65.6 % HUN_Prescythian_IA" "0.0155"
[876,] "73.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 26.5 % IRN_Hajji_Firuz_BA" "0.0155"
[877,] "99.3 % HRV_IA + 0.7 % MYS_LN" "0.0155"
[878,] "99.3 % HRV_IA + 0.7 % IRN_Wezmeh_N" "0.0155"
[879,] "50.8 % HUN_Koros_N + 49.2 % KAZ_Satan_MLBA_Alakul" "0.0155"
[880,] "2.4 % BGR_EBA + 97.6 % HRV_IA" "0.0155"
[881,] "1.7 % BGR_Varna_En2 + 98.3 % HRV_IA" "0.0155"
[882,] "0.8 % BEL_GoyetQ116-1 + 99.2 % HRV_IA" "0.0155"
[883,] "44.8 % Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N + 55.2 % SWE_IA" "0.0155"
[884,] "97.6 % HRV_IA + 2.4 % ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o" "0.0155"
[885,] "99.1 % HRV_IA + 0.9 % TKM_Gonur3_BA" "0.0155"
[886,] "98.5 % HRV_IA + 1.5 % Iberia_Southwest_BA_Afr" "0.0155"
[887,] "99.5 % HRV_IA + 0.5 % IRN_Tepe_Abdul_Hosein_N" "0.0155"
[888,] "87.2 % HUN_BA_o + 12.8 % HUN_Protoboleraz_LCA" "0.0155"
[889,] "1.5 % BGR_Beli_Breyag_EBA + 98.5 % HRV_IA" "0.0155"
[890,] "0.7 % CZE_Vestonice16 + 99.3 % HRV_IA" "0.0155"
[891,] "1.4 % BGR_Middle_C + 98.6 % HRV_IA" "0.0155"
[892,] "0.4 % Baltic_EST_Narva + 99.6 % HRV_IA" "0.0155"
[893,] "99.5 % HRV_IA + 0.5 % IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N" "0.0155"
[894,] "99.5 % HRV_IA + 0.5 % RUS_Yana_MA" "0.0155"
[895,] "98.7 % HRV_IA + 1.3 % Iberia_Northeast_RomP" "0.0155"
[896,] "79.1 % HUN_BA_o + 20.9 % ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA" "0.0155"
[897,] "98 % HRV_IA + 2 % HRV_MBA" "0.0155"
[898,] "98.9 % HRV_IA + 1.1 % Iberia_Northwest_CA_Stp" "0.0155"
[899,] "0.6 % CZE_Starounetice_EBA + 99.4 % HRV_IA" "0.0155"
[900,] "59.2 % HUN_Starcevo_N + 40.8 % RUS_Poltavka" "0.0156"
[901,] "99.7 % HRV_IA + 0.3 % TKM_Parkhai_EBA" "0.0156"
[902,] "99.5 % HRV_IA + 0.5 % HRV_Starcevo_LN" "0.0156"
[903,] "99.7 % HRV_IA + 0.3 % THA_IA" "0.0156"
[904,] "0.3 % Bell_Beaker_England_EBA + 99.7 % HRV_IA" "0.0156"
[905,] "99.8 % HRV_IA + 0.2 % IRN_HotuIIIb_Meso" "0.0156"
[906,] "99.8 % HRV_IA + 0.2 % IRN_Seh_Gabi_LN" "0.0156"
[907,] "99.8 % HRV_IA + 0.2 % TKM_Parkhai_LBA" "0.0156"
[908,] "99.9 % HRV_IA + 0.1 % ROU_Meso" "0.0156"
[909,] "99.9 % HRV_IA + 0.1 % UKR_N_o" "0.0156"
[910,] "0.1 % Bell_Beaker_HUN + 99.9 % HRV_IA" "0.0156"
[911,] "99.9 % HRV_IA + 0.1 % TZA_Zanzibar_Euro_outlier" "0.0156"
[912,] "0 % GRC_Peloponnese_N + 100 % HRV_IA" "0.0156"
[913,] "HRV_IA" "0.0156"

andre
11-11-2019, 06:20 PM
I think I8206 from Empuries in Iberia is a good candidate. Here's a 4 way one adding that sample. Interesting the amount in Umbria, Galli senones perhaps?
https://i.imgur.com/umCV7ST.png
Put some hellenic sample if you can..like mycenean

Samnium
11-11-2019, 06:21 PM
Where do you have the G25 coordinates of each sample ? I have only those of the global 25 official pdf.

Leto
11-11-2019, 06:21 PM
i lost some respect for Davidski for calling that guy an idiot, instead of just disagreeing with him and explaining his reasoning.
He is the Lord of GEDmatch and Eurogenes, he thinks he is allowed to dismiss anyone he disagrees with as an idiot.

Calpurnius
11-11-2019, 06:30 PM
but he isn't shifted towards Croatia_IA, he is practically identical to it, right? and from the same period(early iron age). wouldn't it make more sense that their similar admixture proportions are result of mixings which occurred independently of each other at the same time?

Very similar yes, though precisely because they are from a similar period and geographically quite close I'd say it's just not a coincidence. I think we simply need confirmed Osco-Umbrian samples to get a better idea about Italics as a whole, especially from near the adriatic coast and the whole eastern side of Italy.

Also, has anyone noticed how "northern" those mesolithic Italians samples appear? They seem even more north than Villabruna, wonder how the rest of WHGs model with them.

Samnium
11-11-2019, 06:38 PM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643534784760381442/unknown.png

Note : The Piedmonte average of G25 is not representative at all, a bordering province with Liguria that was taken as average and indeed it's very close to Liguria average.

vbnetkhio
11-11-2019, 06:43 PM
Where do you have the G25 coordinates of each sample ? I have only those of the global 25 official pdf.

there are 4 ancient sheets now. individual samples, averages, and those 2 but unscaled.

trebil
11-11-2019, 06:51 PM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643534784760381442/unknown.png

Note : The Piedmonte average of G25 is not representative at all, a bordering province with Liguria that was taken as average and indeed it's very close to Liguria average.

Neither the average of Liguria is representative, based on only one sample and too much northern shifted.

Samnium
11-11-2019, 06:53 PM
Neither the average of Liguria is representative, based on only one sample and too much northern shifted.

Yes Liguria is very northern shifted, they are on par with Marche or Tuscany IMO.

The piedmontese sample and the ligurian sample are probably from the same area.

trebil
11-11-2019, 06:55 PM
Yes Liguria is very northern shifted, they are on par with Marche or Tuscany IMO.

More with northern Tuscan than with Marche. Instead Liguria there is more similar to what Piedmont should be and Piedmont is more similar to what western Liguria should be.

Samnium
11-11-2019, 06:58 PM
More with northern Tuscan than with Marche. Instead Liguria there is more similar to what Piedmont should be and Piedmont is more similar to what western Liguria should be.

Well depend if you talk about southern or northern Marche...

I think that all the "locations" below Alessandria and western compared to this city are more on the ligurian average. However I really doubt that Cuneo, Asti, il Canavese (just before the Valle d'Aosta) are similar to the ligurian average (and actually results prove the contrary).

Peterski
11-11-2019, 07:02 PM
Sample R435 Roman Republic, 600-200 BC, Similitude Map:

https://i.imgur.com/ERHPOCz.png

^^^
That one was based on 107,000 SNPs.

I've managed to get some more SNPs now. Differences are minor:

116,000 SNPs from BAM file:

https://i.imgur.com/X1bVnrA.png

117,000 SNPs from VCF file:

https://i.imgur.com/qVGngNF.png

I guess we should stick to this version which has the most SNPs.

Calpurnius
11-11-2019, 07:04 PM
Put some hellenic sample if you can..like mycenean
https://i.imgur.com/CBPHmAd.png
though at this point the total of samples used in the sources is 6 and overfitting may be an issue; I used the Empuries2 average sample for ancient Greek

Karol Klačansky
11-11-2019, 07:08 PM
https://i.imgur.com/CBPHmAd.png
though at this point the total of samples used in the sources is 6 and overfitting may be an issue; I used the Empuries2 average sample for ancient GreekCan you add Sicily?

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Calpurnius
11-11-2019, 07:16 PM
Can you add Sicily?

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Right. I also added Corsicans.
https://i.imgur.com/IlnIYSV.png
EDIT: Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1 is the Celtic proxy, I forgot to change the name.

dududud
11-11-2019, 07:28 PM
Right. I also added Corsicans.
https://i.imgur.com/IlnIYSV.png
EDIT: Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1 is the Celtic proxy, I forgot to change the name.

Add sardegna

trebil
11-11-2019, 07:30 PM
Right. I also added Corsicans.
EDIT: Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1 is the Celtic proxy, I forgot to change the name.

Try to put also the Sardinians.

Voskos
11-11-2019, 07:50 PM
Why is there an iron age Latin with 50% levantine affinity?

Calpurnius
11-11-2019, 07:58 PM
I could add Sardinians but obviously the fit with those and without a heavy neolithic source would be poor. Adding copper age Italians would improve it but I think with a total of 7 sources the overfit is heavy for the rest.
In any case, Sardinians just like in the paper about Nuragics fit fairly well as something like 65% copper age Italy, the rest being ~25% Italic + ~10%Mycenaean

trebil
11-11-2019, 08:06 PM
I could add Sardinians but obviously the fit with those and without a heavy neolithic source would be poor. Adding copper age Italians would improve it but I think with a total of 7 sources the overfit is heavy for the rest.
In any case, Sardinians just like in the paper about Nuragics fit fairly well as something like 65% copper age Italy, the rest being ~25% Italic + ~10%Mycenaean

yes this is obvious but it was to see how this model works and if it's really accurate


how can be sardinians 65% copper age Italy, the rest being ~25% Italic + ~10%Mycenaean?

Samnium
11-11-2019, 08:25 PM
New model for S.Italian regions, I used Imperial roman samples, Rome Ardea and Rome Latini. I added other elements to fit with the populations like Guanche, DEU_MA and ARM_MBA.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643559709609033733/unknown.png

I obtain a very good fit with Campania ! (0.5487%)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643559861040185344/unknown.png

Other regions :

Sicily East

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/490551642446495772/643559898482999361/unknown.png

Sicily West

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643559946624958475/unknown.png

Calabria

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643560004175265810/unknown.png

Calabria can be modelized as 80% Imperial Roman, followed by Campania. This can confirm what I've said for Campania having retained Imperial era profile.

andre
11-11-2019, 08:33 PM
New model for S.Italian regions, I used Imperial roman samples, Rome Ardea and Rome Latini. I added other elements to fit with the populations like Guanche, DEU_MA and ARM_MBA.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643559709609033733/unknown.png

I obtain a very good fit with Campania ! (0.5487%)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643559861040185344/unknown.png

Other regions :

Sicily East

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/490551642446495772/643559898482999361/unknown.png

Sicily West

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643559946624958475/unknown.png

Calabria

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643560004175265810/unknown.png

Calabria can be modelized as 80% Imperial Roman, followed by Campania. This can confirm what I've said for Campania having retained Imperial era profile.
Roman Imperial it’s basically italic mixed with hellenic and some levantine admix?

vbnetkhio
11-11-2019, 08:35 PM
2way oracle for HRV_IA


[,1] [,2]
[1,] "HRV_IA" "0"
[2,] "67.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 32.8 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0102"
[3,] "24.8 % CZE_Starounetice_EBA + 75.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0105"
[4,] "59.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 40.9 % Levant_LBN_MA_Euro" "0.0108"
[5,] "30.8 % DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN + 69.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0108"
[6,] "37 % Bell_Beaker_FRA_C + 63 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0108"
[7,] "42.6 % DEU_Lech_BBC + 57.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0111"
[8,] "35.5 % Bell_Beaker_CZE + 64.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0115"
[9,] "70.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 29.7 % Scotland_CA_EBA" "0.0115"
[10,] "31 % England_MBA + 69 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0115"
[11,] "69.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 30.6 % Scotland_MBA" "0.0115"
[12,] "33.2 % Bell_Beaker_POL + 66.8 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0116"
[13,] "29.2 % Bell_Beaker_Scotland + 70.8 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0116"
[14,] "33.9 % England_Roman + 66.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0116"
[15,] "29 % Bell_Beaker_England + 71 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0116"
[16,] "30 % England_CA_EBA + 70 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0117"
[17,] "31.9 % Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale + 68.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0117"
[18,] "51.2 % BGR_C + 48.8 % DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN" "0.0118"
[19,] "58.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 41.3 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0119"
[20,] "55.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 44.7 % ITA_Rome_Renaissance" "0.0119"
[21,] "30.7 % CZE_Bilina_BA + 69.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0119"
[22,] "36.2 % Bell_Beaker_Bavaria + 63.8 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.012"
[23,] "70.8 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 29.2 % IRL_BA" "0.012"
[24,] "29.9 % DEU_Unetice_EBA + 70.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.012"
[25,] "70.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 29.5 % Wales_CA_EBA" "0.012"
[26,] "62.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 37.4 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1" "0.0122"
[27,] "27.5 % Bell_Beaker_NLD + 72.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0123"
[28,] "34.7 % DEU_Alberstedt_LN + 65.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0123"
[29,] "36 % Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA + 64 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0124"
[30,] "28.5 % CZE_EBA + 71.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0124"
[31,] "64.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 35.3 % Iberia_Central_CA_Stp" "0.0124"
[32,] "27.9 % Bell_Beaker_FRA + 72.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0126"
[33,] "32.1 % England_IA + 67.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0126"
[34,] "39.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad + 60.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0126"
[35,] "24.4 % Bell_Beaker_England_EBA + 75.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0127"
[36,] "28 % DNK_MN_B + 72 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0127"
[37,] "60.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 39.7 % Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL" "0.0127"
[38,] "35.5 % DEU_Lech_EBA + 64.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0127"
[39,] "23.8 % Corded_Ware_DEU_o + 76.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0128"
[40,] "46.3 % BGR_C + 53.7 % Yamnaya_BGR" "0.0128"
[41,] "59.7 % BGR_C + 40.3 % Corded_Ware_DEU" "0.0128"
[42,] "24.9 % Corded_Ware_POL + 75.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0128"
[43,] "75.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 24.7 % KAZ_Solyanka_MLBA" "0.0128"
[44,] "56.5 % BGR_C + 43.5 % KAZ_Ak_Moustafa_MLBA1" "0.0128"
[45,] "73.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 26.8 % NLD_BA" "0.0129"
[46,] "29.7 % DEU_Halberstadt_LBA + 70.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0129"
[47,] "28.3 % England_LBA + 71.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0129"
[48,] "29.7 % CZE_Unetice_EBA + 70.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0129"
[49,] "40.4 % Bell_Beaker_CHE + 59.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0129"
[50,] "24.3 % Bell_Beaker_ITA + 75.7 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0131"
[51,] "28.9 % England_EMBA + 71.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0131"
[52,] "50.3 % DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN + 49.7 % GRC_Minoan_Lassithi" "0.0131"
[53,] "60.9 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 39.1 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0132"
[54,] "47.6 % Corded_Ware_DEU + 52.4 % HUN_Starcevo_N" "0.0132"
[55,] "74.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 25.6 % KAZ_Kairan_MLBA" "0.0132"
[56,] "74.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 25.4 % KAZ_Maitan_MLBA_Alakul" "0.0132"
[57,] "56.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 43.8 % ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA" "0.0132"
[58,] "73.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 26.4 % POL_Chopice_Wesele_Culture" "0.0132"
[59,] "75.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 24.6 % RUS_Srubnaya_MLBA" "0.0132"
[60,] "76.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 23.8 % RUS_Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA" "0.0133"
[61,] "28.6 % HRV_MBA + 71.4 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0133"
[62,] "77.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 22.3 % KAZ_Bylkyldak_MLBA" "0.0133"
[63,] "32.8 % DEU_MA + 67.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0133"
[64,] "73.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 26.7 % Scythian_MDA_o2" "0.0133"
[65,] "16.8 % Iberia_North_BA + 83.2 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0133"
[66,] "75.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 24.3 % KAZ_Lisakovskiy_MLBA_Alakul" "0.0134"
[67,] "74.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 25.1 % KAZ_Ak_Moustafa_MLBA1" "0.0134"
[68,] "27.6 % ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA + 72.4 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0135"
[69,] "28.8 % England_Saxon + 71.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0135"
[70,] "52.8 % DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN + 47.2 % GRC_Peloponnese_N" "0.0135"
[71,] "11.7 % ITA_Monte_San_Biagio_CA + 88.3 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0135"
[72,] "25.6 % Bell_Beaker_Rhine-Main + 74.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0135"
[73,] "44.5 % Corded_Ware_DEU + 55.5 % CZE_N" "0.0135"
[74,] "17.6 % Iberia_Central_CA_Stp + 82.4 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0135"
[75,] "82.7 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan + 17.3 % ITA_Rome_Latini_IA" "0.0136"
[76,] "14 % Iberia_Central_BA + 86 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0136"
[77,] "75.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 24.6 % RUS_Sintashta_MLBA" "0.0136"
[78,] "18.4 % Iberia_East_IA + 81.6 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0136"
[79,] "24.6 % Corded_Ware_CZE + 75.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0137"
[80,] "71.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 28.9 % POL_Unetice_EBA" "0.0137"
[81,] "11.4 % IRL_MN + 88.6 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0137"
[82,] "14 % Iberia_Southeast_BA + 86 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0137"
[83,] "24.8 % FIN_Levanluhta_IA_o + 75.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0137"
[84,] "9.8 % Iberia_MN + 90.2 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0137"
[85,] "76.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 23.4 % KAZ_Kyzlbulak_MLBA1" "0.0137"
[86,] "47.9 % GRC_Minoan_Lassithi + 52.1 % SWE_IA" "0.0137"
[87,] "36 % DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3 + 64 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0137"
[88,] "9.2 % Iberia_Northeast_CA + 90.8 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0137"
[89,] "12.3 % Bell_Beaker_Iberia + 87.7 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0137"
[90,] "10.2 % Iberia_Central_CA + 89.8 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0137"
[91,] "26.3 % DNK_LN + 73.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0137"
[92,] "36.6 % ITA_Etruscan + 63.4 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0138"
[93,] "76 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 24 % KAZ_Aktogai_MLBA" "0.0138"
[94,] "9.4 % Iberia_North_MLN + 90.6 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0138"
[95,] "77.8 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 22.2 % UZB_Kashkarchi_BA" "0.0138"
[96,] "57.4 % BGR_C + 42.6 % RUS_Srubnaya_MLBA" "0.0138"
[97,] "64.1 % CZE_N + 35.9 % RUS_Catacomb" "0.0138"
[98,] "76.8 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 23.2 % KAZ_Chanchar_LBA" "0.0138"
[99,] "77.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 22.1 % KAZ_Karagash_MLBA" "0.0138"
[100,] "73.1 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 26.9 % SWE_Battle-Axe" "0.0138"
[101,] "14.7 % BGR_Dzhulyunitsa_N + 85.3 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0138"
[102,] "61.8 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 38.2 % Iberia_North_IA" "0.0138"
[103,] "11.3 % Corded_Ware_CZE_o + 88.7 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0138"
[104,] "78.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 21.4 % KAZ_Taldysay_MLBA1" "0.0138"
[105,] "25.1 % ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA + 74.9 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0138"
[106,] "11.8 % HUN_LCA + 88.2 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0138"
[107,] "9.3 % Iberia_North_CA + 90.7 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0138"
[108,] "8.9 % Iberia_Southwest_CA + 91.1 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0139"
[109,] "44.5 % SRB_Starcevo_N + 55.5 % Yamnaya_BGR" "0.0139"
[110,] "79.4 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan + 20.6 % TZA_Zanzibar_Euro_outlier" "0.0139"
[111,] "41.9 % Corded_Ware_DEU + 58.1 % SRB_Starcevo_N" "0.0139"
[112,] "74.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 25.7 % SWE_LN" "0.0139"
[113,] "9.6 % Iberia_Northeast_MLN + 90.4 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0139"
[114,] "70.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 29.3 % SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna" "0.0139"
[115,] "13.3 % Iberia_Southwest_BA + 86.7 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0139"
[116,] "90 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan + 10 % Scotland_N_o" "0.0139"
[117,] "37.3 % GRC_Minoan_Lassithi + 62.7 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0139"
[118,] "22.3 % ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA + 77.7 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0139"
[119,] "9.6 % Iberia_Southeast_CA + 90.4 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0139"
[120,] "12.2 % HUN_Baden_LCA + 87.8 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0139"
[121,] "64.8 % CZE_N + 35.2 % RUS_Afanasievo" "0.0139"
[122,] "10.2 % Iberia_N + 89.8 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0139"
[123,] "36.8 % DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN + 63.2 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2" "0.0139"
[124,] "13.5 % Iberia_Northeast_BA + 86.5 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.014"
[125,] "86.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 13.1 % NOR_Meso" "0.014"
[126,] "47.5 % GRC_Minoan_Lassithi + 52.5 % Scotland_LBA" "0.014"
[127,] "56.2 % DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN + 43.8 % HUN_Starcevo_N" "0.014"
[128,] "12.6 % Bell_Beaker_FRA_lowSteppe + 87.4 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.014"
[129,] "9.8 % DEU_Esperstedt_MN + 90.2 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.014"
[130,] "89.9 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan + 10.1 % Scotland_N" "0.014"
[131,] "9.7 % England_N + 90.3 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.014"
[132,] "68.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 31.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o2" "0.014"
[133,] "88.5 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan + 11.5 % ITA_Ripabianca_di_Monterado_N" "0.014"
[134,] "78 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 22 % KAZ_Dali_MLBA" "0.014"
[135,] "76 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 24 % RUS_Krasnoyarsk_MLBA" "0.014"
[136,] "88.1 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan + 11.9 % POL_Globular_Amphora" "0.014"
[137,] "9.2 % FRA_MN + 90.8 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.014"
[138,] "78.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 21.8 % UZB_Kokcha_BA" "0.014"
[139,] "77.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 22.8 % KAZ_Shoendykol_MLBA_Fedorovo" "0.0141"
[140,] "17 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1 + 83 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0141"
[141,] "8.7 % Iberia_Southwest_MLN + 91.3 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0141"
[142,] "90.5 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan + 9.5 % Wales_N" "0.0141"
[143,] "9.1 % Iberia_Southeast_MLN + 90.9 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0141"
[144,] "49.5 % England_EMBA + 50.5 % GRC_Minoan_Lassithi" "0.0141"
[145,] "88.1 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan + 11.9 % UKR_Globular_Amphora" "0.0141"
[146,] "47.3 % Bell_Beaker_Scotland + 52.7 % BGR_C" "0.0142"
[147,] "88.8 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan + 11.2 % POL_TRB" "0.0142"
[148,] "11.2 % CZE_Bilina_N_Baalberge + 88.8 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0142"
[149,] "25.8 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 74.2 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0142"
[150,] "55.3 % DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN + 44.7 % HUN_LBK_MN" "0.0142"
[151,] "21.4 % BGR_MLBA + 78.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0142"
[152,] "38.7 % BGR_C + 61.3 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0142"
[153,] "18.6 % ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o + 81.4 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0142"
[154,] "9.8 % Iberia_Southwest_EN + 90.2 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0142"
[155,] "10.1 % HRV_Vucedol + 89.9 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0142"
[156,] "23.5 % Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE + 76.5 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0142"
[157,] "43.2 % Corded_Ware_DEU + 56.8 % HUN_Tiszapolgar_ECA" "0.0142"
[158,] "88.2 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan + 11.8 % SRB_Starcevo_N" "0.0143"
[159,] "75.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 24.5 % KAZ_Katon_Karagay_LBA" "0.0143"
[160,] "44.9 % ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA + 55.1 % Scythian_MDA" "0.0143"
[161,] "77.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 22.8 % POL_EBA" "0.0143"
[162,] "56.6 % DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN + 43.4 % HUN_Koros_N" "0.0143"
[163,] "59.6 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 40.4 % Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES" "0.0143"
[164,] "10.4 % HUN_Balaton_Lasinja_CA + 89.6 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0143"
[165,] "12.5 % Baltic_LVA_MN + 87.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0143"
[166,] "77.8 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 22.2 % RUS_Poltavka_o" "0.0143"
[167,] "11.6 % BGR_Late_C + 88.4 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0143"
[168,] "10.1 % ITA_Grotta_Continenza_N + 89.9 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0143"
[169,] "52.1 % BGR_C + 47.9 % Wales_CA_EBA" "0.0143"
[170,] "19.3 % DEU_Roman + 80.7 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0143"
[171,] "9.9 % Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA_o + 90.1 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0143"
[172,] "49.7 % Corded_Ware_DEU + 50.3 % HRV_Cardial_N" "0.0143"
[173,] "78.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 21.8 % KAZ_Mys_MLBA" "0.0143"
[174,] "9.9 % Anatolia_Boncuklu_N + 90.1 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0143"
[175,] "10.4 % CZE_N + 89.6 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0144"
[176,] "40.1 % DEU_MA_ACD + 59.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0144"
[177,] "65.3 % HUN_Tiszapolgar_ECA + 34.7 % RUS_Catacomb" "0.0144"
[178,] "16.4 % BGR_EBA + 83.6 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0144"
[179,] "9.6 % ITA_Grotta_Continenza_CA + 90.4 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0144"
[180,] "86.9 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan + 13.1 % ITA_Villanovan" "0.0144"
[181,] "9.2 % HUN_ALPc_MN + 90.8 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0144"
[182,] "69.9 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan + 30.1 % ITA_Rome_MA" "0.0144"
[183,] "14.2 % Bell_Beaker_HUN + 85.8 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0144"
[184,] "22.1 % Corded_Ware_DEU + 77.9 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1" "0.0144"
[185,] "69 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 31 % SVK_Poprad_MA" "0.0144"
[186,] "89.6 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan + 10.4 % POL_BKG_N" "0.0144"
[187,] "11.8 % BGR_C + 88.2 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0144"
[188,] "49 % BGR_C + 51 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0144"
[189,] "78.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 21.7 % KAZ_Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA" "0.0144"
[190,] "8.7 % HUN_Hunyadihalom_MCHA + 91.3 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0145"
[191,] "87.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 12.8 % UKR_N" "0.0145"
[192,] "90.4 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan + 9.6 % UKR_Trypillia" "0.0145"
[193,] "8.9 % DEU_Baalberge_MN + 91.1 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0145"
[194,] "10.4 % HUN_Tiszapolgar_ECA + 89.6 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0145"
[195,] "9.3 % HUN_Bu_kk_MN + 90.7 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0145"
[196,] "11.4 % Anatolia_Kumtepe_N + 88.6 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0145"
[197,] "90.6 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan + 9.4 % ITA_Remedello_BA" "0.0145"
[198,] "90.8 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan + 9.2 % SWE_TRB" "0.0145"
[199,] "78.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 + 21.7 % TJK_Dashti_Kozy_BA" "0.0145"
[200,] "50.9 % Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2 + 49.1 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0145"

Calpurnius
11-11-2019, 08:37 PM
yes this is obvious but it was to see how this model works and if it's really accurate


how can be sardinians 65% copper age Italy, the rest being ~25% Italic + ~10%Mycenaean?
why not? it's well known Sardinians are the closest to ancient European farmers and copper age Italians are basically that, EEF, but as the paper about Nuragics had shown, there is also a certain amount of recent Italian input(which obviously is itself in large part EEF too)
you can see it in the PCA I posted before too: https://i.imgur.com/LDb2zJZ.png
compared to Copper age ones Sardinians are shifted towards Italy

Slavic Italian
11-11-2019, 08:43 PM
New model for S.Italian regions, I used Imperial roman samples, Rome Ardea and Rome Latini. I added other elements to fit with the populations like Guanche, DEU_MA and ARM_MBA.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643559709609033733/unknown.png

I obtain a very good fit with Campania ! (0.5487%)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643559861040185344/unknown.png

Other regions :

Sicily East

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/490551642446495772/643559898482999361/unknown.png

Sicily West

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643559946624958475/unknown.png

Calabria

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643560004175265810/unknown.png

Calabria can be modelized as 80% Imperial Roman, followed by Campania. This can confirm what I've said for Campania having retained Imperial era profile.

So Calabria is the heart of the Romans? Many of my ancestors are from Calabria.

Karol Klačansky
11-11-2019, 08:48 PM
So Calabria is the heart of the Romans? Many of my ancestors are from Calabria.Lombardy is the home of the real Romans.Calabria is the bastion of levantese imports.

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trebil
11-11-2019, 08:52 PM
New model for S.Italian regions, I used Imperial roman samples, Rome Ardea and Rome Latini. I added other elements to fit with the populations like Guanche, DEU_MA and ARM_MBA.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643559709609033733/unknown.png

I obtain a very good fit with Campania ! (0.5487%)


With your model, even Aosta Valley in the Alps has Rome Imperial Age ancestry and the most Italic are Sardinians who have almost nothing to do with Italics and represent the EEF part of the Italics. Also Swiss French and Swiss Germans can have a bit of Rome Imperial age ancestry.

Of course you will always find at the top of the list Calabria and other regions of the south Italy but this model doesn't make so much sense.

https://i.imgur.com/EmHc82U.png

dududud
11-11-2019, 08:53 PM
why not? it's well known Sardinians are the closest to ancient European farmers and copper age Italians are basically that, EEF, but as the paper about Nuragics had shown, there is also a certain amount of recent Italian input(which obviously is itself in large part EEF too)
you can see it in the PCA I posted before too: https://i.imgur.com/LDb2zJZ.png
compared to Copper age ones Sardinians are shifted towards Italy

Some, in truth, because it is not uniform: there are several clusters within the sardo cluster, including that of Ogliastra, and Barbagia.

Calpurnius
11-11-2019, 08:56 PM
Some, in truth, because it is not uniform: there are several clusters within the sardo cluster, including that of Ogliastra, and Barbagia.
Indeed, the HGDP ones though should be pretty close to those from the interior. In another study I recall those from Arzana to be even more isolated. Would be nice to have some more Sardinians in G25.

trebil
11-11-2019, 09:06 PM
why not? it's well known Sardinians are the closest to ancient European farmers and copper age Italians are basically that, EEF, but as the paper about Nuragics had shown, there is also a certain amount of recent Italian input(which obviously is itself in large part EEF too)
you can see it in the PCA I posted before too: https://i.imgur.com/LDb2zJZ.png
compared to Copper age ones Sardinians are shifted towards Italy


Because Italics were IE speaking, and any resemblence between Sardinians and Italics is due predominantly to the EEF part of Italics.

Samnium
11-11-2019, 09:10 PM
With your model, even Aosta Valley in the Alps has Rome Imperial Age ancestry and the most Italic are Sardinians who have almost nothing to do with Italics and represent the EEF part of the Italics. Also Swiss French and Swiss Germans can have a bit of Rome Imperial age ancestry.

Of course you will always find at the top of the list Calabria and other regions of the south Italy but this model doesn't make so much sense.

https://i.imgur.com/EmHc82U.png

You shouldn't use Sardinia for this model it's definitely not adapted, but if you see the PCA there are quite a few samples amongst italics and etruscans who are not here that are drifiting toward Sardinia.

You should remind that Aosta Valley was a roman "stronghold" and was romanized since earlier times. Aosta is maybe the best example of that roman presence.

Switzerland, as well as other parts of France might having a bit of Roman Imperial.

By the way my model get extremely low distances with the targets and make sense historically.

Samnium
11-11-2019, 09:18 PM
Lombardy is the home of the real Romans.Calabria is the bastion of levantese imports.

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Not true, Aegean ancestry is not Levantine but an intermediate between W.Europe and Levantine.

Also I would add that the calabrian average is extremely outlying and doesn't represent at all what Calabria is genetically. Same for Sicilian samples.

trebil
11-11-2019, 09:27 PM
You shouldn't use Sardinia for this model it's definitely not adapted, but if you see the PCA there are quite a few samples amongst italics and etruscans who are not here that are drifiting toward Sardinia.

You should remind that Aosta Valley was a roman "stronghold" and was romanized since earlier times. Aosta is maybe the best example of that roman presence.

Switzerland, as well as other parts of France might having a bit of Roman Imperial.

By the way my model get extremely low distances with the targets and make sense historically.

If you put also ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity many regions get no ITA_Rome_Imperial.


https://i.imgur.com/DnCnwlo.png

Samnium
11-11-2019, 09:34 PM
If you put also ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity many regions get no ITA_Rome_Imperial.


https://i.imgur.com/DnCnwlo.png

It's because Rome_Late_Antiquity is a very strange "sample" era with outliers in NW Euro, and globaly samples that are in between S.Italian cluster and central italian one. It contains "Rome_Imperial"

vbnetkhio
11-11-2019, 09:41 PM
there are no bronze age samples?

Samnium
11-11-2019, 09:45 PM
there are no bronze age samples?

Nope. Unfortunately. A great gap between Copper Age sardinian-like Romans and Imperial romans.

trebil
11-11-2019, 09:46 PM
It's because Rome_Late_Antiquity is a very strange "sample" era with outliers in NW Euro, and globaly samples that are in between S.Italian cluster and central italian one. It contains "Rome_Imperial"

The average of Rome_Late_Antiquity plots with Lazio and central Italy and with nMonte you're using the average, not all samples of Rome_Late_Antiquity.

https://i.imgur.com/yk1CFjh.jpg

Dick
11-11-2019, 09:49 PM
Anyone know exactly who these samples are


Distance: 3.3992% / 0.03399153
38.6 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1288
30.2 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR61
13.4 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL53
6.8 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR67
5.6 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL146
5.4 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR62


0.04359843 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR61
0.04374595 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1288
0.04404189 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1219
0.04515509 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR62
0.04675767 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL53
0.04942810 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL47
0.05250097 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL63
0.05286389 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1220
0.05334307 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR106
0.05337714 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1224
0.05346255 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR108
0.05358596 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1221
0.05470127 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR55
0.05477772 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL102
0.05737740 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL57
0.05864145 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.05897688 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL94
0.06001490 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR105
0.06166357 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1286
0.06290474 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR33
0.06457272 ITA_Etruscan:RMPR474b
0.06519533 ITA_Proto-Villanovan:RMPR1
0.06634332 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR110
0.06692206 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL87
0.06804054 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL23

Samnium
11-11-2019, 09:50 PM
Distances to the various samples averages of the study (comparing to italian averages) :

Villanovian
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643582749487398955/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643571621214552064/unknown.png


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643571690068115466/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643571951062876198/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643571851791958016/unknown.png (MA = Middle Ages)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643571761123819520/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643571576109006849/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643571500166938624/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643571446354018342/unknown.png

Samnium
11-11-2019, 09:51 PM
Anyone know exactly who these samples are


Distance: 3.3992% / 0.03399153
38.6 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1288
30.2 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR61
13.4 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL53
6.8 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR67
5.6 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL146
5.4 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR62


0.04359843 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR61
0.04374595 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1288
0.04404189 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1219
0.04515509 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR62
0.04675767 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL53
0.04942810 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL47
0.05250097 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL63
0.05286389 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1220
0.05334307 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR106
0.05337714 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1224
0.05346255 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR108
0.05358596 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1221
0.05470127 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR55
0.05477772 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL102
0.05737740 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL57
0.05864145 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.05897688 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL94
0.06001490 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR105
0.06166357 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1286
0.06290474 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR33
0.06457272 ITA_Etruscan:RMPR474b
0.06519533 ITA_Proto-Villanovan:RMPR1
0.06634332 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR110
0.06692206 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL87
0.06804054 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL23

Where did you find these separate samples ? I seek them lol.

Samnium
11-11-2019, 09:52 PM
The average of Rome_Late_Antiquity plots with Lazio and central Italy and with nMonte you're using the average, not all samples of Rome_Late_Antiquity.

https://i.imgur.com/yk1CFjh.jpg

Yes it's the average. I would like to use separate individuals but I don't know where they are.

Edit : found it

Dick
11-11-2019, 09:55 PM
Where did you find these separate samples ? I seek them lol.


ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA:RMPR851,0.133173,0.156392,0.04 4123,-0.010336,0.046778,-0.004741,0.008225,0.004154,0.023725,0.044283,-0.004222,0.01109,-0.02215,-0.011147,-0.006243,-0.006099,0.002738,-0.000127,0.004902,-0.004252,-0.009109,0.004328,-0.003081,-0.009519,-0.002874
ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA_o:RMPR850,0.103579,0.14319,-0.014708,-0.065892,0.004924,-0.020917,0.002115,-0.003,0.005318,0.012757,0.009256,0.009142,-0.006541,0.007982,-0.001493,-0.01127,-0.014603,-0.00266,0.012444,-0.003252,-0.00262,-0.009521,-0.000493,-0.005784,0.003832
ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA:RMPR1021,0.126344,0.1 53345,0.035072,-0.014858,0.052317,-0.013387,-0.00094,0.003461,0.020452,0.04155,0.004222,0.01004 1,-0.013528,-0.008808,0.007465,-0.015646,-0.011995,-0.003041,0.004902,-0.012631,0.007861,0.006306,-0.007641,-0.001325,0.008023
ITA_Collegno_MA:CL102,0.134311,0.141159,0.048649,0 .015181,0.041546,0.01255,0.00235,0.001846,0.003068 ,0.017859,-0.001786,0.006744,-0.014569,-0.003303,0.008415,0.010607,0.01017,0.005828,0.0057 82,0.008129,0.00861,-0.002968,-0.006902,0.013857,-0.004431
ITA_Collegno_MA:CL121,0.108132,0.152329,0.000754,-0.036822,0.019388,-0.022032,0.000235,-0.003692,0.000205,0.028793,-0.005846,0.01109,-0.011447,0.00055,0.000814,-0.006762,-0.009257,0.004814,-0.003394,-0.01013,-0.004991,0.003091,0.004437,0.00241,-0.007664
ITA_Collegno_MA:CL145,0.132035,0.139128,0.060339,0 .067507,0.041854,0.018686,0.0094,0.01223,0.001023,-0.009841,0.000812,0.006594,-0.00446,-0.001239,0.02918,-0.006364,-0.029336,0.004561,0.010056,0.003752,0.006489,0.010 263,-0.002465,0.017231,0.002634
ITA_Collegno_MA:CL146,0.129758,0.131003,0.063356,0 .05491,0.040931,0.015897,0.003525,0.010384,0.00102 3,-0.006925,-0.002761,0.004346,-0.017988,-0.007982,0.026873,0.001193,-0.0103,0.003294,0.010056,0.011255,0.006239,0.00432 8,0.003944,0.017954,0.000838
ITA_Collegno_MA:CL151,0.134311,0.129988,0.065242,0 .062016,0.042777,0.019522,0.00846,0.014307,-0.002045,-0.005467,-0.004384,-0.001499,-0.010704,-0.010046,0.035694,-0.007292,-0.023469,0.006841,0.005656,0.008879,0.008235,0.008 903,0.002465,0.016629,-0.001796
ITA_Collegno_MA:CL23,0.114961,0.142174,0.026776,-0.008398,0.02462,0.000558,-0.00282,-0.006231,0.011249,0.017495,-0.001949,0.006594,-0.01442,-0.010322,0.000543,-0.009679,-0.018254,-0.002534,0.005405,-0.01088,0.000125,-0.000371,0.001232,0.004458,-0.000958
ITA_Collegno_MA:CL36,0.117238,0.150298,0.025267,-0.018088,0.027082,-0.006414,-0.00658,-0.010384,0.004704,0.0277,0.00065,0.001349,-0.016353,-0.002615,-0.003122,-0.009149,-0.018515,0.000253,0.005531,-0.003627,0.004866,0,0.003204,0.002892,0.005029
ITA_Collegno_MA:CL47,0.130897,0.145221,0.047894,0. 010336,0.035699,0.001394,0.00564,-0.001385,0.009613,0.007472,-0.001786,0.007194,-0.009812,0.005092,0.008415,-0.005701,0.000913,0.000887,0.000628,0.000625,0.004 367,0.008285,-0.001479,0.015303,0.007305
ITA_Collegno_MA:CL53,0.140002,0.139128,0.021873,0. 022287,0.033852,0.012829,0.00987,0.000692,0.006749 ,0.008565,-0.004384,0.012439,-0.009366,0.000138,-0.000136,0.004243,0.010561,0.00076,0.006285,-0.003502,0.000624,-0.001607,-0.003204,0.00241,-0.002395
ITA_Collegno_MA:CL57,0.119514,0.14319,0.038466,0.0 10013,0.028005,0.001673,0.00987,-0.003,0.007363,0.01057,-0.006496,0.014387,-0.013082,0.00289,0.008958,-0.00769,-0.017863,-0.00038,-0.004274,-0.000875,0.000374,-0.002844,-0.004314,0.008676,0.002155
ITA_Collegno_MA:CL63,0.124067,0.145221,0.049026,0. 024548,0.040623,0.011156,0.00423,0.005077,0.003272 ,0.005832,-0.001137,-0.00045,-0.009663,-0.000413,0.006786,-0.003978,-0.019036,-0.001647,0.002263,-0.009004,0.004866,0.006554,-0.001602,0.005181,0.004311
ITA_Collegno_MA:CL83,0.132035,0.133034,0.065242,0. 036499,0.0437,0.025379,0.00846,0.003461,0.005931,0 .000182,-0.01023,0.002548,-0.016799,-0.000413,0.027008,0.001856,-0.007693,0.009502,0.006034,0.005628,0.008859,0.004 204,-0.002342,0.014098,-0.002874
ITA_Collegno_MA:CL84,0.133173,0.136081,0.07203,0.0 42636,0.049548,0.019801,0.005875,0.006923,0.010431 ,0,-0.008444,0.005545,-0.011447,-0.011973,0.023887,0.007823,-0.005476,0.003801,0.005782,0.004502,0.005865,0.002 226,-0.008134,0.013978,0.000838
ITA_Collegno_MA:CL87,0.127482,0.142174,0.054682,0. 031977,0.048009,0.016455,-0.00188,0.00923,0.003068,0.010934,-0.008119,0.006294,-0.017839,-0.009083,0.02253,0.016309,0.007693,0.006334,0.0076 68,0.003377,0.012104,0.004946,-0.008627,0.006868,-0.001916
ITA_Collegno_MA:CL92,0.135449,0.132019,0.070144,0. 04845,0.037238,0.013945,0.00799,0.020307,0.005522, 0.002551,-0.013478,-0.001649,-0.005798,-0.004404,0.02348,0.005171,-0.023208,0.005321,0.004777,-0.003502,0.008735,0.008903,-0.00493,0.003615,0.001078
ITA_Collegno_MA:CL93,0.132035,0.140143,0.066373,0. 05491,0.041238,0.014223,0.00846,0.013846,-0.002659,-0.007472,-0.008444,0.003747,-0.011893,-0.01156,0.03678,0.013259,-0.005737,0.002407,0.002263,0.001751,0.018093,0.009 892,-0.000739,0.009399,0.005149
ITA_Collegno_MA:CL94,0.120652,0.141159,0.037712,0. 00969,0.038776,0.00753,-0.00047,-0.000231,0.010635,0.029704,0.00065,0.004346,-0.015163,-0.009358,-0.002172,-0.005834,0.002477,-0.003041,0.001006,-0.003001,0.003369,0.011252,-0.00037,-0.001687,0.003712
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1:CL25,0.105855,0.151314,-0.029415,-0.052972,0.001846,-0.015897,-0.00282,-0.004615,0.001227,0.016583,0.006496,0.007643,-0.010258,0.004266,-0.004343,-0.004243,0.009518,-0.006081,0.011187,0.002126,-0.004492,0.009398,0.001479,-0.002048,0
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1:CL30,0.113823,0.150298,-0.026398,-0.056848,0.008001,-0.015897,0.005875,0.001846,0.006136,0.015308,0.010 068,0.000599,-0.004757,0.003303,-0.0019,0.000133,0.005085,0.002787,0.004525,-0.001251,-0.001248,-0.008903,0.009983,-0.00253,-0.003233
ITA_Collegno_MA_o1:CL38,0.101303,0.144205,-0.018856,-0.055556,0.007386,-0.016455,-0.00846,-0.008538,-0.004704,0.014397,0.004709,0.009591,-0.00996,-0.005643,-0.014251,0.000928,0.010561,0,-0.002263,0.001251,0.001123,0.006306,-0.002095,0.010001,0.008023
ITA_Collegno_MA_o2:CL31,0.087644,0.022342,-0.00264,-0.044251,0.025235,-0.008646,-0.00094,-0.003923,0.004704,0.015855,-0.024358,0.005395,-0.007879,-0.001376,-0.004614,-0.001591,0.000652,0.003294,-0.003017,-0.004252,0.012478,0.004451,-0.003697,-0.005181,-0.000718
ITA_Etruscan:RMPR473,0.125205,0.158423,0.035449,-0.019703,0.046162,-0.002789,0,-0.002769,0.026384,0.041368,-0.002923,0.012739,-0.018583,-0.007707,-0.0057,-0.017634,-0.010431,0.004054,0.010056,-0.002126,-0.004742,-0.00136,-0.003328,0.002289,-0.003473
ITA_Etruscan:RMPR474b,0.122929,0.151314,0.036581,-0.009044,0.036314,-0.00251,0.00235,-0.003461,0.013908,0.027882,-0.003573,0.01154,-0.013677,-0.004129,-0.003664,0.00411,0.004824,0.010135,0.013073,-0.002626,-0.004742,0.005317,-0.000493,-0.003133,-0.002634
ITA_Etruscan_o:RMPR475b,0.073985,0.158423,0.013953 ,-0.047158,0.04647,-0.018686,-0.018096,0.004384,0.043359,0.043737,0.003573,0.006 294,-0.006838,-0.007019,-0.00285,-0.01538,0.000782,-0.007855,-0.008925,-0.002501,-0.015223,-0.005317,0.000123,-0.009278,0.001557
ITA_Grotta_Continenza_CA:RMPR4,0.125205,0.180764,0 .029415,-0.070414,0.068013,-0.026216,-0.00047,-0.003923,0.050313,0.090754,0.000325,0.012289,-0.029286,-0.005092,-0.02348,-0.005701,0.011474,0.00076,0.01081,-0.007003,-0.003868,0.000742,-0.012078,-0.021328,-0.000718
ITA_Grotta_Continenza_CA:RMPR5,0.124067,0.188888,0 .037712,-0.070091,0.072629,-0.031515,-0.00094,-0.000462,0.052767,0.098225,-0.004384,0.01169,-0.027354,-0.001789,-0.02443,-0.011138,-0.002086,0.004307,0.00993,-0.012006,0.001872,-0.00272,-0.013311,-0.018075,-0.003952
ITA_Grotta_Continenza_N:RMPR2,0.121791,0.182795,0. 00792,-0.083334,0.057241,-0.047133,-0.011986,-0.012923,0.042745,0.088567,0.009094,0.017235,-0.020812,-0.010046,-0.036237,0.001856,0.035073,0.002154,0.003897,-0.005378,-0.013227,0.00507,-0.007518,-0.007591,-0.013412
ITA_Grotta_Continenza_N:RMPR3,0.113823,0.183811,0. 00792,-0.09367,0.053548,-0.041834,-0.011045,-0.004615,0.04295,0.088931,0.012991,0.012739,-0.026759,-0.007019,-0.032709,-0.015646,0.016298,0.006714,0.012947,-0.015257,-0.011854,0.006183,-0.000739,0.002892,-0.007544
ITA_Grotta_Continenza_N:RMPR6,0.126344,0.17264,0.0 46009,-0.039083,0.083708,-0.01757,-0.00658,0.003231,0.061153,0.085833,-0.001786,0.019183,-0.023934,-0.016102,-0.015744,0.010607,0.025816,0.001014,0.006788,-0.006628,0.010981,-0.000371,-0.006409,-0.034583,0.001796
ITA_Grotta_Continenza_N:RMPR8,0.118376,0.18178,0.0 11691,-0.082042,0.05601,-0.044065,-0.00235,-0.006692,0.0407,0.086562,-0.002273,0.008842,-0.023934,-0.00289,-0.033387,-0.016309,-0.000522,-0.003294,0.007793,-0.016508,-0.007362,0.00915,-0.003204,-0.006627,0.003592
ITA_Grotta_Continenza_N:RMPR9,0.118376,0.186857,0. 00264,-0.095931,0.050779,-0.04267,-0.00282,-0.009923,0.045813,0.0831,0.006008,0.01109,-0.024083,0.004266,-0.039359,-0.012066,0.018123,-0.001647,0.010307,-0.011881,-0.012104,0.005441,-0.00037,0.001807,0.000239
ITA_Grotta_Continenza_N:RMPR10,0.124067,0.180764,0 .015839,-0.094639,0.056626,-0.047133,0.000705,-0.001154,0.043155,0.084011,0.013478,0.015286,-0.025124,-0.010735,-0.035016,-0.013524,0.022556,0.001647,0.011439,-0.014257,-0.011105,-0.000371,0,-0.008073,0.005029
ITA_Monte_San_Biagio_CA:RMPR1014,0.122929,0.179749 ,0.031301,-0.060401,0.073244,-0.032351,-0.007285,-0.003231,0.047654,0.092394,0.006171,0.014537,-0.024826,-0.001927,-0.019679,-0.002784,0.011474,-0.001014,0.007793,-0.01013,0.008984,0.012242,-0.007148,-0.032776,0.001317
ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA:RMPR435b,0.125205,0.147252 ,0.045254,0.005814,0.044931,0.005578,-0.00094,0.003461,0.023725,0.039363,-0.004547,0.008992,-0.021407,-0.014726,0.012893,-0.001989,-0.001043,0.006208,0.003017,-0.003252,0.004742,0.002844,-0.006286,-0.000241,-0.002036
ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:RMPR437b,0.117238,0.1563 92,-0.003771,-0.04845,0.01908,-0.01757,-0.001175,-0.004154,0.002659,0.029704,0.001786,0.006145,-0.012487,-0.003028,-0.013301,0.005171,0.017993,-0.00266,-0.002765,-0.002126,0.001248,0.005935,-0.001232,0.004579,0.000958
ITA_Proto-Villanovan:RMPR1,0.121791,0.144205,0.030547,-0.011951,0.024004,-0.008925,0.002585,-0.002538,0.004909,0.021868,0.005521,0.005695,-0.013825,-0.001239,-0.005429,-0.013524,-0.01017,0.003674,0.004777,-0.011631,-0.007237,0.000371,-0.002958,0.005422,-0.006227
ITA_Remedello_BA:RISE486,0.113823,0.169593,0.02790 7,-0.047804,0.080323,-0.025379,-0.013631,0.001385,0.059925,0.071801,0.00406,0.0137 88,-0.012933,-0.003991,-0.016422,-0.017767,-0.002999,0.012035,0.000754,-0.006503,0.001996,-0.003339,-0.02354,-0.027835,-0.007664
ITA_Remedello_BA:RISE487,0.124067,0.162485,0.04110 6,-0.045866,0.075706,-0.025658,-0.0094,0.011769,0.05154,0.096403,-0.010068,0.01079,-0.031367,-0.016652,-0.017779,-0.000663,0.013038,0.00266,0.017095,-0.018384,0.009733,0.008779,-0.019596,-0.018436,-0.004431
ITA_Remedello_BA:RISE489,0.121791,0.173656,0.04110 6,-0.062662,0.07663,-0.028726,-0.00564,0.004384,0.059925,0.079637,-0.006171,0.017534,-0.030773,-0.013212,-0.021172,-0.008353,0.00691,0.004561,0.015712,-0.006003,-0.003743,-0.003462,-0.012941,-0.026992,-0.007903
ITA_Ripabianca_di_Monterado_N:RMPR16,0.118376,0.17 4671,0.016216,-0.068153,0.065551,-0.043228,0.002115,0.001154,0.039269,0.088202,0.001 624,0.016635,-0.030029,-0.008257,-0.024158,-0.001856,0.020601,0.010895,0.013324,-0.006378,-0.000624,0.01014,-0.014173,-0.015785,0.003952
ITA_Ripabianca_di_Monterado_N:RMPR17,0.119514,0.18 0764,0.018479,-0.076228,0.063396,-0.03514,-0.001645,-0.00923,0.038655,0.078726,0.003085,0.012589,-0.018285,0.003853,-0.026873,0.00053,0.01343,0.000507,0.006536,-0.001626,0.004617,0.002968,-0.003451,-0.010242,-0.002275
ITA_Ripabianca_di_Monterado_N:RMPR18,0.126344,0.17 6702,0.003394,-0.088502,0.047701,-0.036535,-0.001175,0.004615,0.046836,0.083282,0.003085,0.017 534,-0.034043,0.00055,-0.033523,-0.008751,0.008475,-0.00114,0.009427,-0.011005,-0.007861,0.004451,-0.002958,-0.021208,-0.003712
ITA_Ripabianca_di_Monterado_N:RMPR19,0.132035,0.17 5687,0.009428,-0.072998,0.063704,-0.034861,-0.006345,-0.001615,0.038041,0.086198,-0.001949,0.004646,-0.027354,-0.011147,-0.02253,0.002387,0.026338,0.004181,0.007542,0.0048 77,-0.007736,-0.00272,-0.009613,-0.018798,0.00012
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR37,0.126344,0.150298,0.06033 9,0.010982,0.05878,-0.007251,0.009635,0.002538,0.030065,0.03827,-0.002436,0.01094,-0.016055,-0.021744,0.007193,0.015646,0.015385,-0.00114,-0.004651,0.012756,0.013227,-0.005935,-0.00912,-0.008555,-0.007185
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR38,0.101303,0.15436,-0.044877,-0.081396,-0.019696,-0.029284,-0.00282,-0.006461,-0.011658,0.016766,0.001624,-0.00045,-0.004608,0.003991,-0.008415,-0.01074,-0.01004,0.001267,0.003142,-0.004127,-0.000125,0.001731,-0.000123,0.000964,0.000599
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR39,0.106994,0.14319,-0.022627,-0.064277,0.003385,-0.020917,-0.00235,-0.005307,-0.005318,0.026424,0.006983,0.004046,-0.004906,-0.001376,-0.011265,-0.002254,0.008084,0.001014,0.001131,0.004752,-0.001248,-0.001113,-0.002218,-0.003856,-0.000359
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR40,0.103579,0.152329,-0.025267,-0.063631,0.000615,-0.016733,0.000235,-0.005077,-0.009817,0.029704,0.00406,0.001199,-0.011298,0.002752,-0.016558,0.001326,0.001434,0.000253,0.000754,-0.009254,-0.005366,0.002473,-0.012818,0.00241,0.001078
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR41,0.094473,0.138112,-0.035449,-0.072675,0.005232,-0.0251,-0.003525,-0.009461,0.002863,0.021686,0.005521,0.001649,0.000 297,0.003441,-0.005429,-0.001061,0.000913,-0.004561,-0.000126,-0.004127,-0.005615,0.000371,0.001109,-0.002169,0.001796
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR42,0.0774,0.145221,-0.059585,-0.089148,-0.010463,-0.027331,-0.004935,-0.006461,0.009204,0.008747,0.004872,-0.004946,0.013379,0.00289,-0.008958,0.005569,-0.002608,0.002914,0.003017,0.002626,-0.000624,0.008285,0.003328,0.000964,-0.003473
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR43,0.112685,0.15436,-0.033941,-0.067507,0.001539,-0.025658,0.002115,-0.006692,-0.007976,0.029158,0.005034,0.009142,-0.014123,0.004542,-0.020494,0.000663,0.017341,0.003294,0.003394,-0.002501,-0.010731,0.010881,-0.000493,0.008917,-0.001916
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR44,0.118376,0.165531,-0.026398,-0.072998,0.00677,-0.019522,0.00188,-0.006231,-0.003886,0.032438,0.005521,0.005545,-0.013379,0.000413,-0.013436,-0.00305,0.015255,-0.001647,0.000126,-0.004627,0,0.000247,0.001479,0.007471,0.000599
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR45,0.084229,0.151314,-0.026776,-0.063631,0.020927,-0.028726,-0.006345,0.000231,0.01718,0.024966,-0.004384,0.002248,-0.001635,0.003028,-0.008958,-0.016971,-0.011083,-0.006461,-0.002263,-0.013882,-0.007861,-0.002597,-0.002711,-0.003615,0.006945
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR47,0.104717,0.148267,-0.008297,-0.044251,0.008617,-0.018407,-0.00047,-0.006461,0.003068,0.019317,0.002273,0.004796,-0.006987,-0.009083,-0.003257,0.001591,0.007693,0.000887,-0.003268,0.004252,-0.006863,0.002473,0.003574,-0.005663,-0.00012
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR49,0.106994,0.15436,-0.004525,-0.040375,0.015387,-0.020638,0.00329,-0.002769,-0.001023,0.015126,0.004872,0.006744,-0.014271,0.002064,-0.008822,0.003447,0.006389,-0.00152,0.00352,-0.005628,0.001123,0.001237,0.000246,-0.006989,0.001916
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR50,0.099026,0.147252,-0.023381,-0.050711,0.007078,-0.007809,-0.000235,-0.002308,-0.003272,0.01385,0.003248,0.000599,0.001338,0.0063 31,-0.002443,-0.011668,-0.009388,0.009882,0.006159,-0.008379,0.000125,0.006183,0.002588,0.003012,0.003 233
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR51,0.110408,0.146236,-0.01961,-0.04845,0.012925,-0.028447,0.001175,-0.011769,0.001841,0.025331,0.001299,0.003297,-0.00996,0.001101,-0.003122,-0.009281,-0.011343,0.004814,0.010182,-0.003877,0.000374,0.005688,0.003697,0.005784,-0.003592
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR66,0.111547,0.158423,-0.033564,-0.068799,0.002154,-0.024821,-0.001175,-0.002308,-0.015544,0.0277,0.010555,-0.002098,-0.002081,0.006468,-0.02253,-0.016441,-0.006258,0.001394,0.002891,-0.015382,-0.004243,0.001855,-0.0053,0.00241,0.004071
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR67,0.079676,0.133034,-0.056945,-0.060078,-0.024928,-0.013387,0.00282,-0.008077,-0.01309,-0.004738,0.009906,-0.004646,0.007433,-0.004954,-0.0095,0.012994,0.008475,0.001774,-0.001508,-0.001,-0.001373,-0.002102,0.002711,-0.002289,0.008981
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR68,0.091058,0.145221,-0.062225,-0.076228,-0.024928,-0.019243,-0.002115,-0.011769,-0.014521,-0.003098,0.003735,0.002248,0.005352,-0.000963,-0.002579,-0.005304,-0.011995,-0.003167,0.005154,-0.006878,0.004991,-0.000866,0.001109,-0.001566,0.002874
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR69,0.119514,0.147252,-0.015085,-0.053618,0.005539,-0.015339,-0.00235,-0.006,-0.019634,0.027518,-0.001461,0.008842,-0.013677,-0.005367,-0.019544,0.005304,0.032205,0.001014,0.008547,0.003 502,-0.004742,0.002844,-0.007765,-0.004217,-0.004431
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR70,0.093335,0.156392,-0.04186,-0.082688,-0.007386,-0.0251,-0.006345,-0.007846,0.009408,0.009294,0.004709,-0.005545,0.007284,-0.004542,-0.008007,0.000663,0.003912,-0.00114,0.001006,0.002501,-0.010606,0.005441,-0.001849,-0.006868,0.000958
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR71,0.10927,0.160454,-0.043746,-0.070091,-0.007694,-0.03012,-0.00188,-0.008538,-0.013908,0.020775,0.001624,0.003897,-0.012487,0.004954,-0.018729,-0.013392,0.009648,0.00076,0.002765,0.003752,-0.004118,-0.00779,0.000616,0.007109,-0.003952
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR72,0.114961,0.147252,-0.033941,-0.072352,-0.002462,-0.030678,0.008695,-0.008077,-0.006545,0.028976,0.007307,0.006594,0.001338,0.002 615,-0.013436,-0.004508,0.008475,0.003294,0.005908,-0.001,-0.000125,0.007172,-0.007518,0.001928,0.007185
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR73,0.088782,0.152329,-0.032432,-0.065892,0.000615,-0.019243,-0.006345,-0.005538,0.006545,0.022415,0.000812,-0.004796,0.003419,-0.007982,-0.001357,0.016441,0.015125,-0.002787,-0.002137,0.007128,-0.008111,-0.001113,-0.003328,0.001566,0.006586
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR75,0.097888,0.153345,-0.035072,-0.072029,-0.001846,-0.031515,0.003995,-0.011538,0.001432,0.016583,0.003248,-0.000899,-0.005649,0.007156,-0.018865,0.001326,0.004563,0.000127,0.000503,-0.008004,0.002995,-0.002349,-0.00419,-0.005302,0.007784
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR76,0.09675,0.144205,-0.0445,-0.068153,-0.010771,-0.016733,-0.005875,-0.006692,-0.00859,0.00893,0.005684,0.000599,0.007433,-0.007844,-0.012893,0.005569,0.023469,-0.005321,-0.001131,0.008004,-0.005865,0.004822,-0.005176,0.006748,-0.000599
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR78,0.114961,0.157407,-0.031678,-0.079781,0.001231,-0.030678,-0.002585,-0.009,-0.010022,0.016948,0.001461,0.006594,-0.009217,0.008945,-0.014251,-0.01896,-0.000522,0.001014,0.009679,-0.005753,-0.009858,0.000495,-0.00419,-0.000964,0.006347
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR80,0.066017,0.156392,-0.014331,-0.070091,0.019696,-0.032072,-0.010105,-0.002769,0.031497,0.02442,-0.002111,0.000599,0.004162,-0.009221,-0.00095,-0.006099,-0.002738,-0.005828,-0.01986,-0.008504,-0.00574,-0.012365,0.010106,-0.001807,-0.002275
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR81,0.106994,0.156392,-0.028284,-0.060724,0.004308,-0.02761,0,0.003,-0.001432,0.023691,0.005359,-0.001948,-0.001338,-0.00578,-0.008822,-0.00053,0.012256,0.00228,0.006913,-0.003502,-0.009733,0.000866,0.002465,-0.001205,-0.000239
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR111,0.127482,0.158423,0.0135 76,-0.032946,0.026159,-0.008088,0.00517,-0.001385,0.000614,0.037358,0.000162,0.01109,-0.009366,-0.006606,-0.010179,0.007823,0.010822,-0.005194,0.010684,0.003252,-0.007487,-0.006925,-0.004807,-0.002048,0.008742
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ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116,0.126344,0.140143,0.0527 97,0.019703,0.044624,0.001673,0.00282,0.008307,0.0 18816,0.019681,-0.000487,0.005845,-0.013528,-0.010459,0.009365,0.003447,-0.000391,0,0.000628,-0.004752,0.002246,0.002597,-0.006286,-0.000964,0.00455
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR123,0.106994,0.14319,-0.029793,-0.056202,0.009848,-0.02761,0.008695,-0.006461,-0.012271,0.024784,0.006008,0.003297,-0.007284,-0.000826,-0.011401,0.008088,0.014081,-0.004434,0.001131,-0.007003,0.000499,0.001484,-0.002835,0.001687,0.000838
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR125,0.114961,0.152329,-0.009805,-0.050711,0.007694,-0.012271,0.00329,-0.005307,-0.00409,0.018588,0.002273,0.001499,-0.013974,-0.013212,-0.007193,0.009546,0.02034,0.005194,0.003771,0.0017 51,0.002121,0.003215,-0.006162,-0.005302,0.001916
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR126,0.100164,0.149283,-0.040729,-0.076228,-0.005232,-0.021196,0.000705,-0.008307,-0.003886,0.02934,0.005521,0.003897,-0.003865,0.001514,-0.008958,-0.002254,0.00691,-0.001647,0.001508,-0.008254,-0.00025,0.006183,-0.003697,0.002289,0.000359
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR128,0.113823,0.151314,-0.032809,-0.052326,-0.008001,-0.021196,0.002115,-0.012461,-0.016771,0.016401,0.005359,0.007343,-0.006095,0.013349,-0.017101,-0.012861,-0.005998,0.003674,0.000503,-0.011631,-0.001497,0.000989,0.00493,-0.002771,-0.008502
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ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR132,0.025041,0.139128,-0.011314,-0.073321,0.02462,-0.031515,-0.016686,0.002769,0.050926,0.028247,0.00406,-3e-04,0.005946,-0.008257,0.003257,-0.009281,0.002738,-0.002914,-0.021494,-0.000375,-0.010107,-0.019908,0.008627,-0.007712,0.003712
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ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR31,0.135449,0.139128,0 .064865,0.045866,0.048932,0.01004,0.00188,0.00923, 0.01084,0.005467,0.001949,0.004796,-0.002676,-0.012524,0.017508,0.019093,0.008605,0.000253,0.006 536,0.011255,0.00861,0.007296,-0.003451,0.014339,-0.004311
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR32,0.104717,0.152329,-0.007542,-0.044251,0.01908,-0.016176,-0.004935,-0.004615,0.001841,0.02442,-0.000974,0.003897,-0.006541,-0.00578,-0.003936,-0.005171,0.00678,-0.004434,-0.008422,0.002626,-0.000749,-0.00507,0.002465,-0.013616,-0.001197
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR33,0.121791,0.149283,0 .024136,-0.010982,0.037238,-0.000558,-0.00047,0.006,0.01718,0.023873,-0.003085,0.002248,-0.010406,-0.001927,-0.001629,-0.00716,-0.000391,0.002027,0.005405,-0.005753,-0.003868,0.000124,-0.005793,0.005543,-0.009101
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR34,0.100164,0.152329,-0.021496,-0.060724,0.006463,-0.021475,0.000235,-0.000923,-0.002045,0.020046,0.003085,0.002698,-0.005352,0.001789,-0.0076,-0.004773,0.009127,0.003927,-0.002765,-0.002876,-0.005989,0.005935,0.003574,-0.002289,-0.000718
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR35,0.103579,0.152329,-0.010936,-0.044574,0.011694,-0.019243,0.00047,-0.006461,0.005318,0.024784,0.002761,0.002098,-0.000743,-0.004542,-0.010858,-0.001856,0.008866,0.00038,0.001885,0.000625,-0.006988,-0.001607,0.002218,-0.009158,0.000718
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR36,0.112685,0.157407,0 .003771,-0.022933,0.024004,-0.01004,0.006815,-0.005077,-0.001023,0.019317,0.007145,0.001649,-0.010555,-0.007432,0.000543,0.002254,0.000391,-0.00114,0.002388,-0.007379,0.00287,0.002968,-0.000493,0.003615,-0.002155
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR104,0.120652,0.162485, 0.033941,-0.057817,0.072937,-0.023985,-0.004935,0.004384,0.047859,0.084193,-0.002436,0.013338,-0.02438,-0.019542,-0.015336,-0.000398,0.018254,-0.003547,0.004274,-0.010255,-0.006863,-0.009769,-0.012695,-0.022413,0.002994
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR105,0.118376,0.146236, 0.032055,-0.002584,0.0397,-0.004183,0.00235,0.001154,0.013908,0.017495,0.0029 23,0.001349,-0.006095,-0.000688,0.003393,-0.005967,-0.013038,-0.006968,0.000251,-0.002626,0.00025,0.000866,-0.001725,-0.005061,0.004071
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR106,0.120652,0.137096, 0.044877,0.037145,0.036622,0.006414,-0.00188,0.003231,0.003068,0.006378,-0.003248,0.008093,-0.008474,-0.010459,0.011129,0.004906,-0.002999,0.002154,0.013701,-0.007504,0.012228,0.009398,0.000616,0.004699,-0.005748
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR107,0.114961,0.148267,-0.006411,-0.031654,0.024312,-0.020359,-0.00705,-0.004154,0.010635,0.025513,-0.000487,0.002398,-0.004757,0.004129,-0.006786,-0.006895,0.007562,-0.00228,-0.000126,0.005503,-0.002995,-0.002226,0.007641,0.005422,-0.000599
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR108,0.12862,0.141159,0 .041106,0.004199,0.044316,0.001673,0.000235,-0.011307,0.005522,0.012028,-0.002273,0.004046,-0.002676,-0.010872,0.005429,0.008221,0.001304,0.000633,0.003 017,0.001376,-0.000125,0.002349,-0.003328,0.003856,-0.000958
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR109,0.119514,0.148267, 0.036958,-0.012597,0.0397,-0.000558,0.001175,0.00923,0.018407,0.020593,-0.004222,0.013938,-0.015163,-0.0139,0.004343,0.001591,0.011995,0.002154,0.00502 8,-0.002126,0.004991,0.006801,-0.003328,0.012532,-0.004071
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR110,0.125205,0.142174, 0.035449,-0.005491,0.034776,-0.004741,-0.002115,0.002769,0.021475,0.032256,0.002761,0.010 94,-0.017691,-0.004266,0.00475,0,0.005737,0.005828,0.009679,0.00 6878,-0.010357,0.004946,0.002095,-0.001446,0.003233
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR117,0.105855,0.148267,-0.014331,-0.040698,0.010463,-0.014781,-0.003055,-0.011307,0.005522,0.016037,-0.002273,0.008992,-0.012339,0.003028,-0.013029,0.003978,0.004042,0.004181,0.004651,-0.013256,-0.004991,-0.001978,-0.005053,0.003735,-0.005149
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR118,0.108132,0.145221, 0.000754,-0.0323,0.022773,-0.020359,-0.00376,0.005538,0.003068,0.021504,-0.001624,-0.000599,-0.015015,-0.006055,0,0.008088,0.02021,0.000507,0.003268,0.00 6128,-0.003743,0.004822,0.00037,0.003856,0.001078
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR120,0.108132,0.151314, 0.011314,-0.039406,0.017234,-0.009203,-0.004465,-0.010153,0.009613,0.022962,-0.000162,0.004946,-0.003419,0.00055,-0.0076,-0.005967,-0.015385,0.007475,0.005531,-0.001251,0.003494,0.006801,0.002218,-0.001325,0.004191
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR121,0.113823,0.152329, 0.000377,-0.030685,0.019696,-0.008367,0.00188,-0.004846,0.005522,0.024055,-0.006008,0.011839,-0.011447,0.002202,-0.013029,-0.007823,-0.011604,0.003041,0.010307,-0.009755,-0.000125,-0.00136,0.005669,-0.00012,-0.011017
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR122,0.101303,0.150298, 0,-0.045866,0.016003,-0.019801,-0.00423,-0.002077,0.00634,0.028976,0.005684,0.007194,-0.010852,0.00523,-0.008822,-0.009546,-0.009779,-0.004687,0.002137,-0.004002,-0.003494,-0.004081,0.002218,0.002651,-0.000239
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR130,0.100164,0.151314,-0.036204,-0.063954,-0.002154,-0.022869,0,-0.010615,0.003681,0.026789,0.009094,-0.002847,-0.002825,-0.000275,-0.005293,-0.010209,0.001825,0.00076,-0.002137,-0.002626,0.004367,0.001731,-0.012325,-0.003374,-0.002754
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR133,0.108132,0.14319,-0.024513,-0.056202,0.004924,-0.019243,0.00705,0.000692,-0.002045,0.028793,0.00682,0.005095,-0.0055,-0.00289,-0.011943,0.012994,0.022556,-0.003674,0.004651,-0.005628,-0.007237,-0.002473,-0.001849,0.008917,0.004191
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR134,0.09675,0.150298,-0.028661,-0.059109,0.006463,-0.02008,-0.00705,-0.006231,-0.003681,0.022051,-0.001137,0.002997,0.005054,0.00234,-0.005429,-0.004375,0.000391,0,-0.005405,-0.001501,-0.001996,0.003091,-0.003697,0.002169,-0.002515
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR136,0.105855,0.148267,-0.012068,-0.042959,0.011079,-0.01506,-0.001645,-0.006231,-0.000614,0.015126,0.006171,0.004796,-0.004757,0.003441,-0.007329,-0.000398,0.004303,0.002914,0.005908,-0.003627,0.000873,0.005193,-0.001109,0.000843,0.004311
ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR137,0.106994,0.15436,-0.020365,-0.053618,0.011079,-0.010319,0.001175,-0.007846,-0.005931,0.029887,0.006008,0.005395,-0.015312,-0.006881,-0.016694,0.003447,0.006128,0.003294,0.001508,-0.008004,-0.007237,-0.000247,-0.002958,-0.00253,-0.00467
ITA_Rome_Latini_IA:RMPR1016,0.127482,0.148267,0.03 4695,-0.017442,0.043085,-0.005578,-0.002115,-0.003231,0.024952,0.051391,-0.001461,0.013488,-0.034043,-0.010184,-0.008415,0.011535,0.018515,-0.003674,0.005405,0.004377,0.003244,-0.001731,0.002588,-0.006266,-0.007544
ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR52,0.101303,0.144205,-0.003771,-0.045866,0.016926,-0.011156,-0.00658,-0.005077,0.007567,0.030069,0.004872,0.001649,-0.009514,-0.007294,-0.010993,-0.018563,-0.008214,0.00228,0.002891,-0.012881,-0.00025,0.010263,0.001602,-0.008917,0.001078
ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR53,0.10927,0.145221,-0.012068,-0.041344,0.013849,-0.020359,-0.002115,-0.008077,0.01084,0.019681,0.001137,0.001499,-0.003717,0.005505,-0.012486,-0.009679,-0.010431,-0.002534,0.001257,-0.006003,0.006239,0.004081,0.002465,-0.00241,0.001796
ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR54,0.114961,0.144205,-0.013199,-0.044574,0.016926,-0.013108,0.00094,-0.006231,0.007158,0.017495,-0.003085,0.002847,-0.004906,-0.000826,-0.00475,0.001193,0.006389,-0.001774,0.01257,-0.007003,0,0.004204,0.001356,0.001325,-0.002515
ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR55,0.124067,0.140143,0.027153,-0.009044,0.030775,0.00251,-0.001645,-0.001846,0.005931,0.022233,0,0.003897,-0.006541,0.001927,-0.000679,0.006364,0.01017,-0.003927,0.005908,-0.002751,-0.00861,0.000495,-0.004683,0.004338,-0.00012
ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR56,0.106994,0.147252,-0.004903,-0.052326,0.013849,-0.017012,-0.00094,-0.009461,-0.001023,0.012939,0.001299,0.003147,-0.008474,0.001651,-0.015879,0.003447,0.00326,-0.001014,-0.000628,-0.008129,-0.000749,-0.001113,-0.003328,0.008676,0.003353
ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR57,0.112685,0.149283,-0.011691,-0.031331,0.017542,-0.015897,-0.00329,0.000923,-0.000818,0.020046,0.002436,0.003297,-0.012339,0,-0.010586,-0.006364,-0.004563,-0.000127,0.005782,-0.004502,0.004742,0.002226,-0.005053,-0.004458,0.000479
ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR58,0.104717,0.150298,-0.00792,-0.046512,0.017234,-0.016455,-0.00282,-0.004615,0.003681,0.013303,-0.000812,0.001349,-0.010258,-0.004404,-0.003529,0.00053,0.00678,-0.001774,-0.000377,-0.002251,0.003993,0.004081,0.001849,0.003976,0.001 317
ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR59,0.10927,0.149283,0.000754,-0.03553,0.01908,-0.01255,0.00235,-0.003923,0.003681,0.019681,-0.000162,-0.004796,-0.004906,0.003441,-0.014251,-0.016839,-0.011474,0.005954,-0.001257,-0.005753,0.005615,0.004081,-0.011216,-0.007109,0.001796
ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR60,0.106994,0.148267,0,-0.02907,0.013233,-0.008646,0.00705,-0.001846,0.010226,0.011299,-0.003735,0.001049,-0.003717,0.004679,-0.002714,-0.007425,-0.016037,0.000127,0.002011,-0.005878,-0.006613,-0.002844,-0.001479,0.001566,-0.00012
ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR61,0.124067,0.144205,0.039975,0.00 5814,0.036622,-0.000279,0.00329,0.005307,0.016771,0.018406,-0.003248,0.003897,-0.000595,0.005092,-0.005565,-0.010342,-0.004955,0.003801,0.005154,-0.001376,-0.001248,-0.005688,0.004067,0.005181,-0.00491
ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR62,0.126344,0.137096,0.043369,0.02 9393,0.039392,0.004183,0.00376,0.005769,0.009817,0 .006196,-0.001137,0.000599,-0.00773,-0.010872,0.004614,0.008221,0.014864,0.003547,0.008 422,-0.007879,0.008111,0.004204,-0.001725,0.008073,0.006826
ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR63,0.117238,0.147252,0.042238,0.00 646,0.051086,-0.009761,-0.00094,0.000692,0.027406,0.031162,-0.002923,0.004646,-0.016055,-0.009221,0.006107,0.009016,0.011995,0.000127,-0.004902,0.010505,-0.002745,-0.001113,0.000493,0.00253,0.005269
ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR64,0.106994,0.14319,-0.006411,-0.041667,0.008925,-0.023148,0.004935,-0.005307,0.000205,0.01877,0.004384,0.007493,-0.004906,-0.005643,-0.003393,0.003182,-0.000913,0.003674,0.000503,-0.007003,0,-0.000371,0.000616,0.004217,-0.002994
ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR65,0.110408,0.145221,-0.012068,-0.046835,0.014772,-0.021196,0.00094,-0.003923,0.000614,0.020957,0.003248,0.006294,-0.009366,-0.003853,-0.013436,0.009281,0.014603,0.002787,-0.002765,-0.000125,-0.00262,-0.000618,-0.000739,0.007953,-0.001796
ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1283,0.110408,0.153345,0.002263,-0.033592,0.029852,-0.007809,0.000235,0.002538,0.013703,0.025695,-0.00065,0,-0.013825,-0.000826,-0.011808,0.001458,0.004694,-0.004561,0.003268,-0.002126,0.003369,0.003957,-0.001725,0.000602,-0.002036
ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1285,0.113823,0.151314,0.011691,-0.033915,0.028005,-0.010877,-0.006345,-0.004615,0.018816,0.031709,-0.002436,0.003147,-0.015609,0.002064,0,-0.010475,-0.007953,0.003801,0.007668,-0.007879,0.000374,0.010881,-0.0053,-0.004097,-0.000599
ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1286,0.134311,0.133034,0.058077,0. 037468,0.035699,0.015618,0.00799,0.009461,-0.001636,-0.001458,-0.01023,0.004346,-0.010704,-0.01101,0.019544,0.016441,0.007432,0.000633,0.0005 03,0.007504,0.002496,0.011623,-0.006286,0.013134,-0.007065
ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1287,0.1161,0.152329,0.012445,-0.030685,0.033545,-0.010319,-0.00329,-0.001615,0.007363,0.031709,0.004384,0.006894,-0.016204,-0.000138,-0.00665,-0.009414,-0.005607,0.000127,0.00264,-0.01088,0,0.003462,-0.002958,0.009399,-0.001796
ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1288,0.118376,0.138112,0.05506,0.0 26486,0.048932,0.009482,0.00705,0.007384,0.005727, 0.00164,-0.008444,0.001948,-0.005798,0.002064,0.009093,0.004641,0.004042,-0.002027,0.006285,0.004377,0.00574,0.006059,0.0009 86,0.00976,-0.004431
ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1289,0.122929,0.142174,0.043746,0. 004522,0.044624,0.000279,-0.005405,0.000231,0.029247,0.033896,-0.000974,0.010491,-0.022894,-0.011973,0.010858,0.008486,0.01356,-0.005828,0.002137,0.007879,0.006239,0.00371,-0.001232,0.002169,-0.003353
ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1290,0.10927,0.145221,0,-0.039083,0.015695,-0.013945,0.00047,-0.001385,0.00859,0.023873,0.00406,0.007044,-0.003122,0.000138,-0.007329,0.006497,0.001565,-0.002534,-0.004902,-0.003252,-0.003868,0.005688,0.001356,0.011929,-0.00012
ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1219,0.121791,0.140143,0. 048271,0.031331,0.038161,0.010319,0.00188,0.006461 ,0.010022,0.002369,-0.003248,0.003297,-0.015461,0.007294,0.007329,0.003182,0.000652,-0.000253,0.003645,0.00075,0.007612,0.010758,0.0061 62,0.007591,-0.00491
ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1220,0.120652,0.145221,0. 039598,0.018734,0.03693,0.013387,-0.007285,-0.000462,0.007976,0.010387,-0.008282,0.005245,-0.010704,-0.005367,0.014115,0.002121,-0.002477,-0.004307,0,-0.003627,0.008859,-0.002968,0.00493,0.007953,0
ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1221,0.119514,0.138112,0. 025644,0.018411,0.038161,-0.003347,0.00235,0.005769,0.006749,0.019499,-0.004872,0.007943,-0.00773,-0.011698,0.004072,-0.004243,-0.004694,0.006461,0.001885,-0.001126,0.004367,0.006925,-0.002095,0.003494,0.002994
ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1224,0.12862,0.146236,0.0 42238,0.022287,0.044008,0.01255,0.002115,0.003923, 0.010226,0.019864,-0.004709,0.007943,-0.011596,-0.007707,0.009093,0.007425,-0.000782,0.002154,0.002891,0.003126,0.000499,-0.000371,-0.002342,0.003374,0.000958
ITA_Tivoli_Renaissance:RMPR969,0.111547,0.147252,0 .001886,-0.030362,0.01508,-0.012271,0,0.001154,0.0045,0.021504,0.007957,0.002 847,-0.009663,-0.011285,-0.005157,0.010872,0.013038,0.004181,0.001383,0.001 376,-0.003743,0.001978,-0.000739,0.003735,0
ITA_Tivoli_Renaissance:RMPR970,0.108132,0.14319,0. 004903,-0.025517,0.019696,-0.001952,-0.004935,-0.006,0.004704,0.012028,0.002273,0.003297,-0.009217,-0.002752,-0.002443,-0.001856,0.014081,-0.004687,-0.000628,0.004752,-0.006863,0.005812,0.001725,0.004458,0.003592
ITA_Tivoli_Renaissance:RMPR973,0.108132,0.147252,-0.003017,-0.043605,0.010771,-0.015618,-0.00423,-0.000923,0,0.023508,-0.004384,0.006145,-0.00996,-0.004679,-0.006515,0.003713,0.011735,0.004181,0.006034,-0.003752,0.001248,-0.002102,0.00419,0.006507,-0.006107
ITA_Villanovan:RMPR1015,0.12862,0.155376,0.04186,-0.022933,0.054164,-0.007251,-0.00188,-0.002077,0.023929,0.039545,0.00747,0.004946,-0.016501,-0.018854,-0.006107,0.011005,0.025686,0.003421,0.002263,0.004 877,0.005366,0.003957,-0.008381,-0.007591,-0.002874

vbnetkhio
11-11-2019, 09:57 PM
Nope. Unfortunately. A great gap between Copper Age sardinian-like Romans and Imperial romans.

maybe we could assume that bronze age Etruscans were already like the Iron age ones?
because this first sensible 2-way model for that earliest iron age sample:
[242,] "29.6 % ARM_Areni_C + 70.4 % ITA_Etruscan" "0.0144"

he is like Etruscans + the early indo-european from Armenia

vbnetkhio
11-11-2019, 09:57 PM
Where did you find these separate samples ? I seek them lol.

http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/
they are here, "Global25 datasheet ancient" (or "Global25 datasheet ancient scaled" if you prefer scaled)

Samnium
11-11-2019, 10:24 PM
Empire era romans distances (100 closest modern populations) :

RMPR1551

Distance to:
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1551
0.10279828
Turkish_South
0.10538840
Turkish_Aydin
0.10611491
Turkish_Balikesir
0.10695166
Turkish_Southwest
0.10892745
Turkish_North
0.10974247
Turkish_Northwest
0.11480321
Turkmen
0.12028444
Turkish_Central
0.12555669
Roma
0.12755247
Turkish_Adana
0.12820086
Azeri
0.13024803
Turkish_Istanbul
0.13087730
Abazin
0.13100597
Kabardin
0.13190980
Turkish_Azer
0.13233931
Turkish_Kayseri
0.13254574
Karachay
0.13317762
Tatar_Lipka
0.13347365
Iranian_Seyyed
0.13483541
Kumyk
0.13498474
Parsi_Pakistan
0.13520645
Cherkes
0.13529957
Parsi_India
0.13576782
Circassian
0.13595447
Iranian_Bandari
0.13600868
Azeri_Dagestan
0.13681413
Balkar
0.13781326
Tajik_Shugnan
0.13841171
Iranian_Fars
0.13963170
Tajik_Rushan
0.13978859
Tajik_Ishkashim
0.13994608
Tajik_Yagnobi
0.14017653
North_Ossetian
0.14173781
Syrian
0.14416892
Turkish_Balkans
0.14587652
Ezid
0.14632179
Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.14638528
Iranian_Lor
0.14835133
Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.14885076
Ingushian
0.15053466
Ossetian
0.15067470
Tatar_Kazan
0.15132224
Adygei
0.15281507
Uthmankhel
0.15302289
Uzbek
0.15306194
Pashtun
0.15351365
Palestinian
0.15443045
Chechen
0.15452421
Kurdish
0.15452567
BedouinA
0.15453152
Tarkalani
0.15495918
Lebanese_Muslim
0.15502962
Kho_Singanali
0.15516418
Makrani
0.15618184
Iranian_Mazandarani
0.15653718
Yusufzai
0.15945926
Egyptian
0.15946525
Tabasaran
0.15964669
Ashkenazi_Jew
0.16057607
Tatar_Mishar
0.16125627
Burusho
0.16263708
Balochi
0.16275661
Kamboj
0.16294427
Lak
0.16323386
Libyan_Jew
0.16323437
Karaite_Egypt
0.16330855
Brahui
0.16367839
Syrian_Jew
0.16373103
Avar
0.16417989
Georgian_Jew
0.16438780
Moroccan_Jew
0.16456535
Abkhasian
0.16481732
Lebanese_Druze
0.16490299
Kaitag
0.16506488
Sephardic_Jew
0.16587878
Kalash
0.16628794
Tunisian_Jew
0.16649379
Maltese
0.16691168
Iranian_Jew
0.16695108
Jatt_Pathak
0.16739638
Romaniote_Jew
0.16742551
Druze
0.16745692
Ror
0.16746510
Assyrian
0.16825409
Kubachinian
0.16875678
Darginian
0.16927416
Italian_Calabria
0.16946793
Sicilian_West
0.16967790
Italian_Jew
0.16981700
Besermyan
0.17051817
Sicilian_East
0.17056343
Greek_Phokaia
0.17110725
Armenian
0.17134345
Kohistani
0.17150860
Italian_South
0.17167270
Greek_Crete
0.17283493
Libyan
0.17431131
Greek_Kos
0.17435169
Italian_Basilica
0.17447249
Iraqi_Jew


RMPR67

Distance to:
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR67
0.10111891
Turkish_South
0.10353405
Turkish_Southwest
0.10546500
Turkish_Aydin
0.10790104
Turkish_Balikesir
0.10943964
Turkish_Northwest
0.11020327
Turkmen
0.11157491
Turkish_North
0.12187001
Turkish_Central
0.12370698
Roma
0.12714990
Turkish_Adana
0.12803725
Azeri
0.12936979
Iranian_Bandari
0.12994565
Iranian_Seyyed
0.13100704
Turkish_Istanbul
0.13116723
Parsi_Pakistan
0.13117587
Parsi_India
0.13188336
Tajik_Shugnan
0.13313758
Tatar_Lipka
0.13362236
Turkish_Kayseri
0.13452316
Tajik_Ishkashim
0.13531868
Tajik_Rushan
0.13541723
Tajik_Yagnobi
0.13561904
Turkish_Azer
0.13566898
Iranian_Fars
0.13791567
Azeri_Dagestan
0.13803091
Abazin
0.13844421
Kabardin
0.13860382
Kumyk
0.14024173
Karachay
0.14040683
Syrian
0.14235228
Cherkes
0.14294134
Turkish_Balkans
0.14326871
Circassian
0.14384226
Balkar
0.14400205
Ezid
0.14436927
Iranian_Lor
0.14497489
Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.14517302
Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.14531672
Makrani
0.14698153
Tatar_Kazan
0.14758366
Uthmankhel
0.14801330
Tarkalani
0.14812159
Pashtun
0.14879347
North_Ossetian
0.14899288
Kho_Singanali
0.14978238
Uzbek
0.14999690
Palestinian
0.15103443
Yusufzai
0.15113319
BedouinA
0.15173861
Kurdish
0.15363210
Lebanese_Muslim
0.15394795
Balochi
0.15437990
Brahui
0.15446468
Iranian_Mazandarani
0.15585640
Burusho
0.15611039
Ingushian
0.15612932
Egyptian
0.15813876
Kamboj
0.15896477
Tatar_Mishar
0.15899515
Adygei
0.15960938
Chechen
0.15970434
Ashkenazi_Jew
0.15987512
Ossetian
0.16111418
Jatt_Pathak
0.16140478
Libyan_Jew
0.16143441
Tabasaran
0.16214840
Moroccan_Jew
0.16271804
Ror
0.16312924
Kalash
0.16361797
Syrian_Jew
0.16370486
Georgian_Jew
0.16373257
Karaite_Egypt
0.16392792
Lebanese_Druze
0.16509495
Iranian_Jew
0.16539141
Sephardic_Jew
0.16554013
Tunisian_Jew
0.16564203
Lak
0.16595306
Druze
0.16610568
Maltese
0.16640491
Besermyan
0.16647825
Kohistani
0.16658992
Avar
0.16664773
Assyrian
0.16764893
Libyan
0.16770040
Romaniote_Jew
0.16888574
Kaitag
0.16926606
Italian_Jew
0.16936883
Italian_Calabria
0.16972031
Khatri
0.17045105
Sicilian_West
0.17112315
Punjabi_Jatt
0.17191907
Sindhi
0.17193034
Greek_Phokaia
0.17194796
Kashmiri_Pandit
0.17208546
Darginian
0.17209425
Kubachinian
0.17236250
Tunisian
0.17266774
Greek_Crete
0.17281311
Italian_South
0.17291601
Iraqi_Jew


RMPR68


Distance to:
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR68
0.10040306
Turkish_South
0.10325634
Turkish_Aydin
0.10375243
Turkish_Southwest
0.10496985
Turkish_Balikesir
0.10820662
Turkish_North
0.10839534
Turkish_Northwest
0.11156905
Turkmen
0.11865509
Turkish_Central
0.12438346
Turkish_Adana
0.12469383
Roma
0.12488593
Azeri
0.12837130
Iranian_Seyyed
0.12917777
Turkish_Istanbul
0.12934927
Iranian_Bandari
0.13014648
Turkish_Azer
0.13026201
Parsi_Pakistan
0.13033003
Turkish_Kayseri
0.13065757
Parsi_India
0.13372939
Tatar_Lipka
0.13378043
Iranian_Fars
0.13423206
Tajik_Shugnan
0.13483012
Azeri_Dagestan
0.13540418
Kabardin
0.13612354
Tajik_Yagnobi
0.13615587
Abazin
0.13688423
Syrian
0.13692687
Tajik_Rushan
0.13703422
Kumyk
0.13723798
Tajik_Ishkashim
0.13737411
Karachay
0.13974623
Cherkes
0.14046100
Circassian
0.14117694
Balkar
0.14186986
Iranian_Lor
0.14216265
Ezid
0.14319075
Turkish_Balkans
0.14333819
Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.14381699
Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.14535995
North_Ossetian
0.14685938
Makrani
0.14723525
Palestinian
0.14811710
BedouinA
0.14965507
Uthmankhel
0.15010056
Pashtun
0.15012440
Tatar_Kazan
0.15024815
Kurdish
0.15038648
Lebanese_Muslim
0.15093452
Tarkalani
0.15126863
Uzbek
0.15229557
Iranian_Mazandarani
0.15241042
Kho_Singanali
0.15262477
Egyptian
0.15308411
Ingushian
0.15351556
Yusufzai
0.15533962
Balochi
0.15595051
Brahui
0.15615596
Ossetian
0.15655540
Adygei
0.15657230
Ashkenazi_Jew
0.15768271
Chechen
0.15807040
Libyan_Jew
0.15870143
Burusho
0.15945220
Moroccan_Jew
0.15947567
Karaite_Egypt
0.15975871
Syrian_Jew
0.16008206
Kamboj
0.16063485
Tabasaran
0.16065579
Lebanese_Druze
0.16076876
Tatar_Mishar
0.16083043
Georgian_Jew
0.16157514
Iranian_Jew
0.16158532
Sephardic_Jew
0.16180906
Tunisian_Jew
0.16310510
Druze
0.16383229
Kalash
0.16385202
Maltese
0.16392115
Assyrian
0.16437154
Romaniote_Jew
0.16445773
Jatt_Pathak
0.16462639
Lak
0.16537760
Ror
0.16553922
Avar
0.16560338
Libyan
0.16626444
Italian_Jew
0.16679159
Kaitag
0.16700350
Italian_Calabria
0.16758582
Sicilian_West
0.16888890
Kohistani
0.16912076
Iraqi_Jew
0.16928688
Besermyan
0.16949699
Sicilian_East
0.16950695
Armenian
0.16972240
Greek_Phokaia
0.16982096
Greek_Crete
0.16984600
Abkhasian
0.17006994
Italian_South
0.17029319
Tunisian
0.17058304
Kubachinian
0.17078508
Lebanese_Christian
0.17085409
Darginian


RMPR38


Distance to:
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR38
0.10027200
Turkish_South
0.10168929
Turkish_Aydin
0.10264374
Turkish_Southwest
0.10313007
Turkish_Balikesir
0.10692461
Turkish_North
0.10705696
Turkish_Northwest
0.11388473
Turkmen
0.11811551
Turkish_Central
0.12450456
Roma
0.12457299
Turkish_Adana
0.12717465
Azeri
0.12810781
Turkish_Istanbul
0.12989344
Turkish_Kayseri
0.13158396
Turkish_Azer
0.13305992
Tatar_Lipka
0.13317039
Iranian_Seyyed
0.13559127
Parsi_Pakistan
0.13589881
Parsi_India
0.13633323
Kabardin
0.13678673
Iranian_Bandari
0.13724997
Abazin
0.13739898
Syrian
0.13759104
Azeri_Dagestan
0.13804539
Iranian_Fars
0.13860289
Karachay
0.13863253
Kumyk
0.14044931
Tajik_Shugnan
0.14081832
Turkish_Balkans
0.14104383
Cherkes
0.14144878
Tajik_Yagnobi
0.14169669
Circassian
0.14250913
Tajik_Rushan
0.14301367
Balkar
0.14326332
Tajik_Ishkashim
0.14494072
Ezid
0.14536354
Iranian_Lor
0.14616432
Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.14744293
Palestinian
0.14756366
North_Ossetian
0.14795449
Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.14842211
BedouinA
0.14975923
Lebanese_Muslim
0.15025183
Tatar_Kazan
0.15225406
Egyptian
0.15315919
Kurdish
0.15351939
Uzbek
0.15388845
Ashkenazi_Jew
0.15510798
Ingushian
0.15571626
Makrani
0.15577574
Libyan_Jew
0.15612300
Uthmankhel
0.15636683
Pashtun
0.15684785
Moroccan_Jew
0.15710354
Iranian_Mazandarani
0.15753738
Adygei
0.15762263
Tarkalani
0.15763154
Ossetian
0.15843041
Karaite_Egypt
0.15855754
Sephardic_Jew
0.15864756
Syrian_Jew
0.15890655
Tunisian_Jew
0.15891202
Kho_Singanali
0.15978212
Lebanese_Druze
0.15992484
Yusufzai
0.16020984
Chechen
0.16028374
Maltese
0.16035540
Tatar_Mishar
0.16150494
Romaniote_Jew
0.16203417
Georgian_Jew
0.16222717
Druze
0.16300384
Iranian_Jew
0.16312914
Italian_Jew
0.16326706
Italian_Calabria
0.16370673
Balochi
0.16394437
Tabasaran
0.16406284
Sicilian_West
0.16433021
Brahui
0.16463484
Libyan
0.16482190
Burusho
0.16489358
Assyrian
0.16576667
Sicilian_East
0.16627494
Kamboj
0.16628476
Greek_Phokaia
0.16673945
Italian_South
0.16695218
Greek_Crete
0.16853259
Lak
0.16861979
Tunisian
0.16899609
Italian_Basilica
0.16911323
Avar
0.16922350
Greek_Kos
0.16951526
Lebanese_Christian
0.16956267
Italian_Campania
0.16972782
Armenian
0.16975063
Cypriot
0.16992682
Iraqi_Jew
0.17011583
French_Corsica_o
0.17020095
Besermyan
0.17028089
Kaitag
0.17042726
Jatt_Pathak
0.17072595
Abkhasian


RMPR132


Distance to:
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR132
0.12238822
Turkish_Southwest
0.12288594
Turkish_Aydin
0.12335590
Turkish_Balikesir
0.12384397
Turkish_South
0.12669263
Turkish_Northwest
0.13053974
Turkmen
0.13172916
Turkish_North
0.13574512
Roma
0.14012487
Turkish_Central
0.14210480
Tatar_Lipka
0.14476483
Turkish_Adana
0.14576810
Turkish_Istanbul
0.14894041
Tunisian
0.15069950
Libyan
0.15084282
Turkish_Balkans
0.15085461
Egyptian
0.15105682
Turkish_Kayseri
0.15118920
Azeri
0.15179716
Moroccan_North
0.15199322
Syrian
0.15213617
Berber_Tunisia_Sen
0.15356144
BedouinA
0.15544581
Algerian
0.15563234
Palestinian
0.15625741
Iranian_Seyyed
0.15628787
Turkish_Azer
0.15645211
Tatar_Kazan
0.15671286
Parsi_Pakistan
0.15705049
Parsi_India
0.15745113
Moroccan_Jew
0.15848632
Libyan_Jew
0.15870602
Iranian_Bandari
0.15973110
Kabardin
0.15993917
Tajik_Shugnan
0.16105370
Ashkenazi_Jew
0.16136307
Iranian_Fars
0.16174743
Tunisian_Jew
0.16180810
Tajik_Rushan
0.16180999
Azeri_Dagestan
0.16226567
Berber_Tunisia_Chen
0.16233350
Abazin
0.16249280
Kumyk
0.16250555
Tajik_Yagnobi
0.16298573
Karachay
0.16307268
Lebanese_Muslim
0.16326764
Tajik_Ishkashim
0.16478684
Maltese
0.16509191
Uzbek
0.16515736
Cherkes
0.16529586
Mozabite
0.16530621
Sephardic_Jew
0.16544973
Spanish_Canarias
0.16579192
Circassian
0.16582214
Tatar_Mishar
0.16627059
Ezid
0.16714149
Moroccan
0.16805382
Balkar
0.16824733
Iranian_Lor
0.16867319
Syrian_Jew
0.16870852
Sicilian_West
0.16890094
Italian_Jew
0.16909135
French_Corsica_o
0.16921355
Romaniote_Jew
0.16951060
Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.16958438
Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.17086486
Karaite_Egypt
0.17094828
Italian_Calabria
0.17198699
North_Ossetian
0.17340599
Sicilian_East
0.17350657
Lebanese_Druze
0.17424368
Pashtun
0.17452378
Kurdish
0.17469537
Uthmankhel
0.17514282
Italian_South
0.17545992
Druze
0.17580958
Tarkalani
0.17609802
Makrani
0.17647035
Besermyan
0.17692405
Italian_Basilica
0.17698590
Italian_Campania
0.17723824
Kho_Singanali
0.17749377
Yusufzai
0.17767271
Greek_Phokaia
0.17783250
Greek_Crete
0.17823497
Berber_MAR_ERR
0.17899674
Spanish_Galicia
0.17927474
Italian_Apulia
0.17933513
Italian_Molise
0.17955947
Portuguese
0.17976940
Ingushian
0.17979004
Italian_Abruzzo
0.17997893
Gagauz
0.18028305
Adygei
0.18035647
Greek_Kos
0.18059541
Greek_Smyrna
0.18062098
Burusho
0.18082752
Georgian_Jew
0.18100983
Iranian_Jew
0.18116885
Lebanese_Christian
0.18120096
Cypriot

RMPR116

Distance to:
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.11694346
Turkish_Balikesir
0.11787753
Tatar_Lipka
0.11906321
Turkish_Southwest
0.11960035
Turkish_South
0.12020385
Turkish_Aydin
0.12075853
Turkmen
0.12197927
Turkish_Northwest
0.12760721
Tatar_Kazan
0.12826584
Turkish_North
0.12969718
Roma
0.13661383
Tatar_Mishar
0.13681408
Turkish_Balkans
0.13913669
Tajik_Shugnan
0.13985874
Turkish_Central
0.14019937
Tajik_Rushan
0.14041492
Turkish_Istanbul
0.14361804
Tajik_Ishkashim
0.14564776
Turkish_Adana
0.14585342
Tajik_Yagnobi
0.14739416
Besermyan
0.15101740
Kabardin
0.15201531
Turkish_Kayseri
0.15224892
Azeri
0.15261656
Abazin
0.15312483
Kumyk
0.15362463
Uzbek
0.15442076
Karachay
0.15579593
Cherkes
0.15628778
Parsi_Pakistan
0.15656589
Azeri_Dagestan
0.15673334
Turkish_Azer
0.15679689
Parsi_India
0.15708478
Komi
0.15737871
Circassian
0.15744229
Iranian_Bandari
0.15748524
Iranian_Seyyed
0.15800071
Balkar
0.15995856
Spanish_Canarias
0.15997933
Udmurt
0.16120663
Iranian_Fars
0.16206239
Pashtun
0.16239588
Uthmankhel
0.16251311
Kho_Singanali
0.16276408
Syrian
0.16305891
Chuvash
0.16350180
Ashkenazi_Jew
0.16367926
Tarkalani
0.16383337
French_Corsica_o
0.16488837
North_Ossetian
0.16566895
Yusufzai
0.16600499
Jatt_Pathak
0.16647854
Maori
0.16658430
Spanish_Galicia
0.16659709
Bashkir
0.16668538
Maltese
0.16683164
Sicilian_West
0.16692963
Ezid
0.16750367
Ror
0.16773353
Gagauz
0.16851206
Portuguese
0.16858157
Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.16866673
Moroccan_Jew
0.16899233
Burusho
0.17006657
Moldavian
0.17010911
Spanish_Murcia
0.17011304
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.17014101
Ingushian
0.17022488
Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.17035245
Bulgarian
0.17039557
Romanian
0.17063376
Iranian_Lor
0.17091223
Mordovian
0.17141406
Spanish_Extremadura
0.17199240
Swiss_Italian
0.17206879
Kamboj
0.17217407
Italian_Calabria
0.17227338
Italian_Liguria
0.17229062
Sicilian_East
0.17230609
Tabasaran
0.17254181
Libyan_Jew
0.17268335
Sephardic_Jew
0.17268537
Palestinian
0.17273032
French_Provence
0.17276215
Chechen
0.17279175
Albanian
0.17281867
Greek_Phokaia
0.17295885
Adygei
0.17296204
Makrani
0.17305701
Italian_South
0.17387015
Spanish_Alacant
0.17403860
Spanish_Andalucia
0.17421251
Lebanese_Muslim
0.17431547
Greek
0.17457915
Italian_Molise
0.17489719
BedouinA
0.17499558
Spanish_Eivissa
0.17507980
Italian_Jew
0.17513652
Italian_Basilica
0.17518110
Montenegrin
0.17575937
Spanish_Baleares

Calpurnius
11-11-2019, 10:28 PM
Tried to quickly see how good these Italian mesolithic HGs fit other HGs since they plot as more extreme WHGs than what was available until now. Indeed some of the fits are quite good, Villabruna only 1.9% distance.
https://i.imgur.com/PwgmjCU.png

vbnetkhio
11-11-2019, 10:32 PM
etruscan 2way oracle


[,1] [,2]
[1,] "ITA_Etruscan" "0"
[2,] "52.3 % England_EMBA + 47.7 % HUN_Vinca_MN" "0.0089"
[3,] "46.3 % Anatolia_Barcin_N + 53.7 % England_EMBA" "0.0091"
[4,] "39.8 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN + 60.2 % HUN_MA_Szolad" "0.0091"
[5,] "60.6 % England_Roman + 39.4 % HRV_Cardial_N" "0.0091"
[6,] "58.7 % England_Roman + 41.3 % HRV_Sopot_MN" "0.0092"
[7,] "39.8 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN + 60.2 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0093"
[8,] "48 % BGR_C + 52 % England_Roman" "0.0093"
[9,] "32.8 % HRV_Cardial_N + 67.2 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0094"
[10,] "59.1 % England_Roman + 40.9 % HUN_Starcevo_N" "0.0094"
[11,] "60.1 % DEU_MA + 39.9 % HRV_Cardial_N" "0.0095"
[12,] "55.3 % DEU_Alberstedt_LN + 44.7 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN" "0.0096"
[13,] "47.8 % AUT_LBK_N + 52.2 % England_EMBA" "0.0097"
[14,] "54.5 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN + 45.5 % SWE_Battle-Axe" "0.0097"
[15,] "53.3 % Bell_Beaker_England + 46.7 % HUN_Starcevo_N" "0.0097"
[16,] "52.7 % DEU_MA + 47.3 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN" "0.0097"
[17,] "41.2 % Anatolia_Barcin_N + 58.8 % England_Roman" "0.0097"
[18,] "52.7 % BGR_Late_C + 47.3 % England_EMBA" "0.0097"
[19,] "53.2 % BGR_C + 46.8 % England_EMBA" "0.0097"
[20,] "55.1 % England_CA_EBA + 44.9 % HUN_Starcevo_N" "0.0098"
[21,] "48.7 % CZE_MN + 51.3 % England_EMBA" "0.0098"
[22,] "39.2 % Corded_Ware_DEU + 60.8 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN" "0.0098"
[23,] "59.2 % England_Roman + 40.8 % HUN_Koros_N" "0.0099"
[24,] "41.8 % HRV_Cardial_N + 58.2 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0099"
[25,] "46.1 % England_EMBA + 53.9 % ROU_C" "0.0099"
[26,] "43.8 % HRV_Sopot_MN + 56.2 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0099"
[27,] "58.1 % England_Roman + 41.9 % HUN_LBK_MN" "0.01"
[28,] "34.5 % HRV_Sopot_MN + 65.5 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.01"
[29,] "55.7 % England_EMBA + 44.3 % HRV_Cardial_N" "0.01"
[30,] "42.6 % AUT_LBK_N + 57.4 % England_Roman" "0.01"
[31,] "53.6 % England_EMBA + 46.4 % HRV_Sopot_MN" "0.0101"
[32,] "46.9 % Bell_Beaker_Scotland + 53.1 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN" "0.0101"
[33,] "53.3 % England_Roman + 46.7 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN" "0.0101"
[34,] "36.7 % HUN_BA_o + 63.3 % ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA" "0.0101"
[35,] "43.4 % HUN_Starcevo_N + 56.6 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0101"
[36,] "35.4 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN + 64.6 % ITA_Rome_Renaissance" "0.0101"
[37,] "54.3 % HUN_ALPc_Szakalhat_MN + 45.7 % SWE_Battle-Axe" "0.0102"
[38,] "56.1 % England_Roman + 43.9 % HUN_Lengyel_LN" "0.0102"
[39,] "45.1 % AUT_LBK_N + 54.9 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0102"
[40,] "43.6 % Anatolia_Barcin_N + 56.4 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0102"
[41,] "42.7 % CZE_N + 57.3 % DEU_Alberstedt_LN" "0.0103"
[42,] "56.1 % England_MBA + 43.9 % HUN_Starcevo_N" "0.0103"
[43,] "54.1 % England_EMBA + 45.9 % HUN_Koros_N" "0.0103"
[44,] "48.9 % ITA_Ripabianca_di_Monterado_N + 51.1 % SWE_IA" "0.0103"
[45,] "50.6 % BGR_C + 49.4 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0103"
[46,] "54.1 % BGR_Middle_C + 45.9 % England_Saxon" "0.0103"
[47,] "42.1 % DEU_LBK_N + 57.9 % England_Roman" "0.0103"
[48,] "36.9 % HUN_Lengyel_LN + 63.1 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0104"
[49,] "54.5 % Bell_Beaker_Scotland + 45.5 % HRV_Cardial_N" "0.0104"
[50,] "39.5 % HUN_ALPc_Szakalhat_MN + 60.5 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0104"
[51,] "58.2 % DEU_MA + 41.8 % HRV_Sopot_MN" "0.0104"
[52,] "32.6 % HRV_Cardial_N + 67.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad" "0.0104"
[53,] "44.4 % HUN_LBK_MN + 55.6 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0104"
[54,] "61.1 % DEU_Alberstedt_LN + 38.9 % HUN_Starcevo_N" "0.0104"
[55,] "47.4 % Bell_Beaker_England + 52.6 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN" "0.0104"
[56,] "52.9 % Bell_Beaker_England + 47.1 % HRV_Sopot_MN" "0.0104"
[57,] "55.6 % DEU_MA + 44.4 % ITA_Grotta_Continenza_N" "0.0104"
[58,] "44.9 % Corded_Ware_CZE + 55.1 % CZE_N" "0.0104"
[59,] "57.5 % England_Roman + 42.5 % HUN_Vinca_MN" "0.0105"
[60,] "45.1 % HUN_Vinca_MN + 54.9 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0105"
[61,] "47.3 % DEU_LBK_N + 52.7 % England_EMBA" "0.0105"
[62,] "47.2 % ITA_Grotta_Continenza_N + 52.8 % SWE_IA" "0.0105"
[63,] "66.4 % ITA_Grotta_Continenza_CA + 33.6 % RUS_Catacomb" "0.0105"
[64,] "49.2 % England_Saxon + 50.8 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN" "0.0105"
[65,] "48.6 % BGR_C + 51.4 % DEU_MA" "0.0105"
[66,] "55 % Bell_Beaker_England + 45 % HRV_Cardial_N" "0.0105"
[67,] "46.4 % HUN_Lengyel_LN + 53.6 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0106"
[68,] "51.6 % Bell_Beaker_NLD + 48.4 % HUN_Starcevo_N" "0.0106"
[69,] "58.1 % HUN_ALPc_Szakalhat_MN + 41.9 % RUS_Srubnaya_MLBA" "0.0106"
[70,] "43.3 % HUN_Koros_N + 56.7 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0106"
[71,] "50.1 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN + 49.9 % SWE_IA" "0.0106"
[72,] "53.5 % England_Roman + 46.5 % HUN_ALPc_Szakalhat_MN" "0.0106"
[73,] "35.2 % DEU_LBK_N + 64.8 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0106"
[74,] "37.7 % BGR_C + 62.3 % DEU_Lech_BBC" "0.0107"
[75,] "56.6 % England_EMBA + 43.4 % MKD_N" "0.0107"
[76,] "59 % ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA + 41 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0107"
[77,] "49.3 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN + 50.7 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0107"
[78,] "46 % Bell_Beaker_England + 54 % BGR_C" "0.0107"
[79,] "42.7 % BGR_Middle_C + 57.3 % HUN_MA_Szolad" "0.0107"
[80,] "40.8 % BGR_C + 59.2 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0107"
[81,] "58.5 % ITA_Collegno_MA + 41.5 % ROU_C" "0.0107"
[82,] "63.2 % ITA_Collegno_MA + 36.8 % ITA_Grotta_Continenza_N" "0.0107"
[83,] "34 % HUN_Starcevo_N + 66 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0107"
[84,] "52.5 % CZE_N + 47.5 % SWE_Battle-Axe" "0.0107"
[85,] "35.6 % AUT_LBK_N + 64.4 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0107"
[86,] "51.9 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN + 48.1 % IRL_BA" "0.0107"
[87,] "50.9 % England_EMBA + 49.1 % HUN_Lengyel_LN" "0.0108"
[88,] "47.1 % CZE_EBA + 52.9 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN" "0.0108"
[89,] "51 % England_EMBA + 49 % ITA_Grotta_Continenza_N" "0.0108"
[90,] "39.2 % Corded_Ware_DEU + 60.8 % HUN_ALPc_Szakalhat_MN" "0.0108"
[91,] "34.2 % Anatolia_Barcin_N + 65.8 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0108"
[92,] "51.1 % BGR_C + 48.9 % England_MBA" "0.0108"
[93,] "45.6 % Bell_Beaker_Scotland + 54.4 % BGR_C" "0.0108"
[94,] "56 % England_Roman + 44 % GRC_Peloponnese_N" "0.0108"
[95,] "52.4 % Bell_Beaker_Scotland + 47.6 % HRV_Sopot_MN" "0.0108"
[96,] "54.8 % England_CA_EBA + 45.2 % HRV_Sopot_MN" "0.0108"
[97,] "70.5 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan + 29.5 % POL_Globular_Amphora" "0.0108"
[98,] "35 % HUN_LBK_MN + 65 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0108"
[99,] "53 % England_Roman + 47 % SRB_Starcevo_N" "0.0108"
[100,] "42.8 % BGR_Middle_C + 57.2 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0108"
[101,] "66 % HUN_MA_Szolad + 34 % HUN_Starcevo_N" "0.0108"
[102,] "52.1 % BGR_C + 47.9 % England_CA_EBA" "0.0108"
[103,] "35.6 % HUN_Vinca_MN + 64.4 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0108"
[104,] "45.7 % Bell_Beaker_NLD + 54.3 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN" "0.0108"
[105,] "53.1 % CZE_EBA + 46.9 % HUN_Starcevo_N" "0.0108"
[106,] "33.6 % Corded_Ware_Baltic_early + 66.4 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN" "0.0109"
[107,] "44.8 % HUN_Sopot_LN + 55.2 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0109"
[108,] "37.6 % CZE_N + 62.4 % HUN_MA_Szolad" "0.0109"
[109,] "39.3 % HUN_ALPc_Szakalhat_MN + 60.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad" "0.0109"
[110,] "58.5 % Bell_Beaker_POL + 41.5 % HUN_Starcevo_N" "0.0109"
[111,] "33.9 % HUN_Koros_N + 66.1 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0109"
[112,] "55.1 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN + 44.9 % POL_Chopice_Wesele_Culture" "0.0109"
[113,] "52.3 % Bell_Beaker_England + 47.7 % HUN_LBK_MN" "0.0109"
[114,] "47.7 % England_EMBA + 52.3 % SRB_Starcevo_N" "0.0109"
[115,] "51.3 % BGR_C + 48.7 % CZE_Bilina_BA" "0.0109"
[116,] "42.4 % BGR_N + 57.6 % England_Roman" "0.0109"
[117,] "50.2 % England_MBA + 49.8 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN" "0.0109"
[118,] "42.9 % Corded_Ware_CZE + 57.1 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN" "0.0109"
[119,] "34.3 % HRV_Sopot_MN + 65.7 % HUN_MA_Szolad" "0.0109"
[120,] "67 % ITA_Grotta_Continenza_CA + 33 % RUS_Afanasievo" "0.0109"
[121,] "36.4 % CZE_MN + 63.6 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0109"
[122,] "44.7 % DEU_LBK_N + 55.3 % Scotland_LBA" "0.011"
[123,] "56.7 % England_EMBA + 43.3 % ROU_N" "0.011"
[124,] "50.5 % BGR_Middle_C + 49.5 % England_IA" "0.011"
[125,] "55.6 % DEU_Alberstedt_LN + 44.4 % HUN_ALPc_Szakalhat_MN" "0.011"
[126,] "38.3 % BGR_Middle_C + 61.7 % ITA_Rome_Renaissance" "0.011"
[127,] "49.2 % England_CA_EBA + 50.8 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN" "0.011"
[128,] "58.2 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN + 41.8 % RUS_Srubnaya_MLBA" "0.011"
[129,] "61.7 % Bell_Beaker_CZE + 38.3 % HUN_Starcevo_N" "0.011"
[130,] "55.7 % England_MBA + 44.3 % HRV_Sopot_MN" "0.011"
[131,] "50.7 % Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale + 49.3 % BGR_C" "0.011"
[132,] "76.1 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan + 23.9 % Scotland_N_o" "0.011"
[133,] "52.8 % Bell_Beaker_Scotland + 47.2 % HUN_Starcevo_N" "0.011"
[134,] "46.9 % HRV_Cardial_N + 53.1 % SWE_Battle-Axe" "0.011"
[135,] "57.8 % England_MBA + 42.2 % HRV_Cardial_N" "0.011"
[136,] "53.1 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN + 46.9 % Wales_CA_EBA" "0.011"
[137,] "62.8 % DEU_Alberstedt_LN + 37.2 % HRV_Cardial_N" "0.0111"
[138,] "42.6 % DEU_LBK_N + 57.4 % DEU_MA" "0.0111"
[139,] "54.4 % CZE_N + 45.6 % KAZ_Kairan_MLBA" "0.0111"
[140,] "58.1 % Bell_Beaker_POL + 41.9 % UKR_N_o" "0.0111"
[141,] "41.6 % Anatolia_Barcin_N + 58.4 % DEU_MA" "0.0111"
[142,] "58.7 % DEU_MA + 41.3 % HUN_Koros_N" "0.0111"
[143,] "57.8 % England_Roman + 42.2 % HUN_Sopot_LN" "0.0111"
[144,] "43.4 % CZE_MN + 56.6 % England_Roman" "0.0111"
[145,] "41.6 % Corded_Ware_DEU + 58.4 % ITA_Grotta_Continenza_CA" "0.0111"
[146,] "49.1 % HUN_Starcevo_N + 50.9 % POL_Chopice_Wesele_Culture" "0.0111"
[147,] "58.4 % HUN_BA_o + 41.6 % ITA_Rome_Latini_IA" "0.0111"
[148,] "54.9 % HUN_ALPc_Szakalhat_MN + 45.1 % POL_Chopice_Wesele_Culture" "0.0111"
[149,] "49 % HRV_Sopot_MN + 51 % SWE_Battle-Axe" "0.0111"
[150,] "56.8 % England_CA_EBA + 43.2 % HRV_Cardial_N" "0.0111"
[151,] "45.9 % BGR_C + 54.1 % DEU_Alberstedt_LN" "0.0111"
[152,] "60.8 % DEU_Alberstedt_LN + 39.2 % HRV_Sopot_MN" "0.0111"
[153,] "63.3 % Bell_Beaker_Bavaria + 36.7 % HUN_Starcevo_N" "0.0111"
[154,] "60.2 % ITA_Collegno_MA + 39.8 % SRB_Starcevo_N" "0.0111"
[155,] "35.4 % BGR_N + 64.6 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0112"
[156,] "50.7 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN + 49.3 % SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna" "0.0112"
[157,] "53 % England_EMBA + 47 % HUN_LBK_MN" "0.0112"
[158,] "61.7 % England_Roman + 38.3 % MKD_N" "0.0112"
[159,] "50 % BGR_Middle_C + 50 % England_Roman" "0.0112"
[160,] "49.1 % HUN_ALPc_Szakalhat_MN + 50.9 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0112"
[161,] "63.7 % DEU_Lech_BBC + 36.3 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN" "0.0112"
[162,] "28.5 % HRV_Cardial_N + 71.5 % ITA_Rome_Renaissance" "0.0112"
[163,] "36.4 % HRV_Starcevo_LN + 63.6 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0112"
[164,] "54.1 % England_CA_EBA + 45.9 % HUN_LBK_MN" "0.0112"
[165,] "47.6 % BGR_N + 52.4 % England_EMBA" "0.0112"
[166,] "41 % Corded_Ware_DEU + 59 % CZE_N" "0.0112"
[167,] "50.8 % England_EMBA + 49.2 % GRC_Peloponnese_N" "0.0112"
[168,] "40.2 % Iberia_East_IA + 59.8 % ITA_Proto-Villanovan" "0.0112"
[169,] "39.5 % HUN_Baden_LCA + 60.5 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0112"
[170,] "51.3 % England_Roman + 48.7 % ROU_C" "0.0112"
[171,] "55.6 % DEU_MA + 44.4 % HUN_Lengyel_LN" "0.0112"
[172,] "59.7 % ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA + 40.3 % ITA_Rome_MA" "0.0112"
[173,] "53.3 % Bell_Beaker_NLD + 46.7 % HRV_Cardial_N" "0.0113"
[174,] "44 % CZE_MN + 56 % DEU_MA" "0.0113"
[175,] "36.2 % HUN_ALPc_I_MN + 63.8 % ITA_Collegno_MA" "0.0113"
[176,] "46 % HUN_Starcevo_N + 54 % IRL_BA" "0.0113"
[177,] "56.2 % England_Roman + 43.8 % ITA_Grotta_Continenza_N" "0.0113"
[178,] "55.1 % England_MBA + 44.9 % HUN_LBK_MN" "0.0113"
[179,] "69 % DEU_Lech_BBC + 31 % HUN_Starcevo_N" "0.0113"
[180,] "46.6 % GRC_Peloponnese_N + 53.4 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0113"
[181,] "36.5 % HUN_ALPc_Tiszadob_MN + 63.5 % HUN_MA_Szolad" "0.0113"
[182,] "44.5 % HRV_Sopot_MN + 55.5 % SWE_IA" "0.0113"
[183,] "55.3 % BGR_Middle_C + 44.7 % IRL_BA" "0.0113"
[184,] "51.2 % Bell_Beaker_NLD + 48.8 % HRV_Sopot_MN" "0.0113"
[185,] "53 % CZE_N + 47 % POL_Chopice_Wesele_Culture" "0.0113"
[186,] "52.7 % Bell_Beaker_POL + 47.3 % HUN_ALPc_Szatmar_MN" "0.0113"
[187,] "57 % BGR_Middle_C + 43 % NLD_BA" "0.0114"
[188,] "54.6 % Bell_Beaker_CZE + 45.4 % BGR_C" "0.0114"
[189,] "52.4 % DEU_MA + 47.6 % SRB_Starcevo_N" "0.0114"
[190,] "57.1 % CZE_N + 42.9 % RUS_Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA" "0.0114"
[191,] "58.7 % England_IA + 41.3 % HUN_Starcevo_N" "0.0114"
[192,] "39.1 % BGR_C + 60.9 % Levant_LBN_MA_Euro" "0.0114"
[193,] "58.5 % England_Roman + 41.5 % SRB_N" "0.0114"
[194,] "49.8 % Bell_Beaker_Scotland + 50.2 % HUN_Lengyel_LN" "0.0114"
[195,] "51.3 % ROU_C + 48.7 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0114"
[196,] "55.9 % Scotland_LBA + 44.1 % SRB_N" "0.0114"
[197,] "40.7 % ROU_N + 59.3 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0114"
[198,] "60.3 % ITA_Collegno_MA + 39.7 % POL_BKG_N" "0.0114"
[199,] "35.3 % GRC_Peloponnese_N + 64.7 % Levant_LBN_MA_Euro" "0.0114"
[200,] "44.9 % BGR_N + 55.1 % Scotland_LBA" "0.0114"

Samnium
11-11-2019, 10:33 PM
What I've noticed for these "outliers" is that they are very close to Turkish averages but more distant to Levant and other oriental locations. They show also Caucasian populations (as Azeris and Circassians) in a high position in the list.

It's very possible that these are Anatolian Greeks.

Vid Flumina
11-11-2019, 10:39 PM
Plenty of Late Antiquity, Medieval and Renaissance samples in my top 100, has anyone looked into them yet? Y-DNA?


Distance to: VFlumina_scaled
0.03480643 HRV_MBA:I4332
0.03499102 Bell_Beaker_POL:I6582
0.03545054 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ27
0.03628166 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ45
0.03634389 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I4945
0.03656436 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR55
0.03662395 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL102
0.03696915 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I4885
0.03748070 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR109
0.03779700 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR108
0.03818648 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:E09538
0.03925294 ITA_Etruscan:RMPR474b
0.03927847 DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.04007547 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ18
0.04015676 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12163
0.04039873 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR62
0.04050055 HRV_MBA:I4331
0.04070479 Scythian_HUN:DA195
0.04140786 DEU_Lech_BBC:UNTA58_68Sk1
0.04160730 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1224
0.04217411 DEU_Roman:FN_2
0.04223482 DEU_Lech_EBA:POST_50
0.04229017 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL94
0.04286661 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ28
0.04297747 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I4886
0.04384281 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL53
0.04388707 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5520
0.04418487 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1221
0.04449358 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ5
0.04508871 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I3588
0.04560847 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ3
0.04591286 HUN_BA:I7043
0.04641746 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1289
0.04692842 Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10852
0.04694844 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR110
0.04710346 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1220
0.04729959 BGR_EBA:I2165
0.04757478 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12031
0.04763805 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR63
0.04769499 DEU_Lech_EBA:POST_44
0.04782502 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR33
0.04784448 DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.04832099 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.04836177 HUN_MA:DA199
0.04879089 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5017
0.04882479 DEU_MA_ACD:STR_310
0.04891826 Levant_LBN_MA_Euro:SI-40
0.04902661 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5529
0.04903702 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37
0.04913113 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I4896
0.04914584 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I6591
0.04918818 DEU_Lech_EBA:UNTA85_1412
0.04937357 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8203
0.04948167 Iberia_East_IA:I3324
0.04977050 Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES:I3777
0.05009145 HUN_BA:I7040
0.05024983 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL47
0.05107136 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR61
0.05120337 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ43
0.05126441 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1288
0.05255886 ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA:RMPR435b
0.05267387 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR106
0.05285931 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5524
0.05313885 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I7275
0.05325575 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL87
0.05335636 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1219
0.05383338 DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.05392970 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ36
0.05415501 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ23
0.05420917 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I7214
0.05425727 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR105
0.05456572 Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10895
0.05463892 HRV_EBA:I3499
0.05465123 UKR_Cimmerian:MJ12
0.05538357 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12032
0.05545575 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12162
0.05554561 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ37
0.05701182 ITA_Villanovan:RMPR1015
0.05727518 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA:I5015
0.05737330 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL23
0.05744554 HRV_IA:I3313
0.05747787 ITA_Rome_Latini_IA:RMPR1016
0.05752900 Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I12516
0.05759041 ITA_Proto-Villanovan:RMPR1
0.05761766 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I3590
0.05762644 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8209
0.05793162 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8214
0.05801255 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL57
0.05807224 Iberia_North_IA:I3759
0.05814120 Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10853
0.05816085 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I7278
0.05820008 TZA_Zanzibar_Euro_outlier:I0588
0.05883141 DEU_MA_ACD:NW_54
0.05885946 Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.05928902 England_CA_EBA:I2462
0.05936844 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR36
0.05955821 Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10892
0.06017838 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ32
0.06018447 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12034
0.06033314 ITA_Tivoli_Renaissance:RMPR970

Samnium
11-11-2019, 10:41 PM
Plenty of Late Antiquity, Medieval and Renaissance samples in my top 100, has anyone looked into them yet? Y-DNA?


Distance to: VFlumina_scaled
0.03480643 HRV_MBA:I4332
0.03499102 Bell_Beaker_POL:I6582
0.03545054 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ27
0.03628166 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ45
0.03634389 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I4945
0.03656436 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR55
0.03662395 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL102
0.03696915 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I4885
0.03748070 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR109
0.03779700 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR108
0.03818648 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:E09538
0.03925294 ITA_Etruscan:RMPR474b
0.03927847 DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.04007547 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ18
0.04015676 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12163
0.04039873 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR62
0.04050055 HRV_MBA:I4331
0.04070479 Scythian_HUN:DA195
0.04140786 DEU_Lech_BBC:UNTA58_68Sk1
0.04160730 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1224
0.04217411 DEU_Roman:FN_2
0.04223482 DEU_Lech_EBA:POST_50
0.04229017 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL94
0.04286661 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ28
0.04297747 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I4886
0.04384281 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL53
0.04388707 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5520
0.04418487 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1221
0.04449358 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ5
0.04508871 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I3588
0.04560847 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ3
0.04591286 HUN_BA:I7043
0.04641746 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1289
0.04692842 Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10852
0.04694844 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR110
0.04710346 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1220
0.04729959 BGR_EBA:I2165
0.04757478 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12031
0.04763805 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR63
0.04769499 DEU_Lech_EBA:POST_44
0.04782502 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR33
0.04784448 DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.04832099 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.04836177 HUN_MA:DA199
0.04879089 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5017
0.04882479 DEU_MA_ACD:STR_310
0.04891826 Levant_LBN_MA_Euro:SI-40
0.04902661 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5529
0.04903702 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37
0.04913113 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I4896
0.04914584 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I6591
0.04918818 DEU_Lech_EBA:UNTA85_1412
0.04937357 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8203
0.04948167 Iberia_East_IA:I3324
0.04977050 Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES:I3777
0.05009145 HUN_BA:I7040
0.05024983 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL47
0.05107136 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR61
0.05120337 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ43
0.05126441 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1288
0.05255886 ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA:RMPR435b
0.05267387 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR106
0.05285931 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5524
0.05313885 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I7275
0.05325575 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL87
0.05335636 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1219
0.05383338 DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.05392970 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ36
0.05415501 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ23
0.05420917 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I7214
0.05425727 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR105
0.05456572 Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10895
0.05463892 HRV_EBA:I3499
0.05465123 UKR_Cimmerian:MJ12
0.05538357 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12032
0.05545575 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12162
0.05554561 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ37
0.05701182 ITA_Villanovan:RMPR1015
0.05727518 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA:I5015
0.05737330 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL23
0.05744554 HRV_IA:I3313
0.05747787 ITA_Rome_Latini_IA:RMPR1016
0.05752900 Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I12516
0.05759041 ITA_Proto-Villanovan:RMPR1
0.05761766 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I3590
0.05762644 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8209
0.05793162 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8214
0.05801255 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL57
0.05807224 Iberia_North_IA:I3759
0.05814120 Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10853
0.05816085 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I7278
0.05820008 TZA_Zanzibar_Euro_outlier:I0588
0.05883141 DEU_MA_ACD:NW_54
0.05885946 Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.05928902 England_CA_EBA:I2462
0.05936844 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR36
0.05955821 Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10892
0.06017838 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ32
0.06018447 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12034
0.06033314 ITA_Tivoli_Renaissance:RMPR970

Go there, dozens of members have analyzed the Y-DNA of these samples :

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?18871-Ancient-Rome-A-genetic-crossroads-of-Europe-and-the-Mediterranean

vbnetkhio
11-11-2019, 10:48 PM
Plenty of Late Antiquity, Medieval and Renaissance samples in my top 100, has anyone looked into them yet? Y-DNA?


Distance to: VFlumina_scaled
0.03480643 HRV_MBA:I4332
0.03499102 Bell_Beaker_POL:I6582
0.03545054 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ27
0.03628166 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ45
0.03634389 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I4945
0.03656436 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR55
0.03662395 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL102
0.03696915 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I4885
0.03748070 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR109
0.03779700 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR108
0.03818648 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:E09538
0.03925294 ITA_Etruscan:RMPR474b
0.03927847 DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.04007547 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ18
0.04015676 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12163
0.04039873 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR62
0.04050055 HRV_MBA:I4331
0.04070479 Scythian_HUN:DA195
0.04140786 DEU_Lech_BBC:UNTA58_68Sk1
0.04160730 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1224
0.04217411 DEU_Roman:FN_2
0.04223482 DEU_Lech_EBA:POST_50
0.04229017 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL94
0.04286661 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ28
0.04297747 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I4886
0.04384281 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL53
0.04388707 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5520
0.04418487 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1221
0.04449358 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ5
0.04508871 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I3588
0.04560847 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ3
0.04591286 HUN_BA:I7043
0.04641746 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1289
0.04692842 Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10852
0.04694844 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR110
0.04710346 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1220
0.04729959 BGR_EBA:I2165
0.04757478 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12031
0.04763805 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR63
0.04769499 DEU_Lech_EBA:POST_44
0.04782502 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR33
0.04784448 DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.04832099 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.04836177 HUN_MA:DA199
0.04879089 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5017
0.04882479 DEU_MA_ACD:STR_310
0.04891826 Levant_LBN_MA_Euro:SI-40
0.04902661 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5529
0.04903702 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37
0.04913113 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I4896
0.04914584 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I6591
0.04918818 DEU_Lech_EBA:UNTA85_1412
0.04937357 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8203
0.04948167 Iberia_East_IA:I3324
0.04977050 Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES:I3777
0.05009145 HUN_BA:I7040
0.05024983 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL47
0.05107136 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR61
0.05120337 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ43
0.05126441 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1288
0.05255886 ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA:RMPR435b
0.05267387 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR106
0.05285931 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5524
0.05313885 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I7275
0.05325575 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL87
0.05335636 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1219
0.05383338 DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.05392970 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ36
0.05415501 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ23
0.05420917 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I7214
0.05425727 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR105
0.05456572 Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10895
0.05463892 HRV_EBA:I3499
0.05465123 UKR_Cimmerian:MJ12
0.05538357 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12032
0.05545575 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12162
0.05554561 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ37
0.05701182 ITA_Villanovan:RMPR1015
0.05727518 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA:I5015
0.05737330 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL23
0.05744554 HRV_IA:I3313
0.05747787 ITA_Rome_Latini_IA:RMPR1016
0.05752900 Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I12516
0.05759041 ITA_Proto-Villanovan:RMPR1
0.05761766 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I3590
0.05762644 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8209
0.05793162 Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8214
0.05801255 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL57
0.05807224 Iberia_North_IA:I3759
0.05814120 Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10853
0.05816085 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I7278
0.05820008 TZA_Zanzibar_Euro_outlier:I0588
0.05883141 DEU_MA_ACD:NW_54
0.05885946 Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.05928902 England_CA_EBA:I2462
0.05936844 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR36
0.05955821 Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10892
0.06017838 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ32
0.06018447 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12034
0.06033314 ITA_Tivoli_Renaissance:RMPR970

this is the official table



SampleArchaeological ID and NotesmtDNAY-chrSiteCultural AffiliationDatePeriod according to archaeological contextPeriod Label for Analyses
R11Grotta Continenza; -2; 31C; 2; 8; same individualU5b1+16189+@16192I-M436Grotta Continenza10100 - 9816 calBCEUpper Paleolithic/NeolithicMesolithic
R7Grotta Continenza; 1993U5b1+16189+@16192I-M223Grotta Continenza8821 - 8642 calBCEUpper Paleolithic/NeolithicMesolithic
R15Continenza 2009; 4BB; t.21/23U5b3I-M223Grotta Continenza7284 - 7065 calBCECastelnovian MesolithicMesolithic
R2Grotta Continenza; Taglio; 15-17K1a2--Grotta Continenza6066 - 6002 calBCEEarly NeolithicNeolithic
R3Grotta Continenza - RimossoN1a1a1--Grotta Continenza5836 - 5723 calBCEUpper Paleolithic/NeolithicNeolithic
R8Grotta Continenza; Rimosso; 1979-80; H1 rip.K1a3--Grotta Continenza5832 - 5715 calBCEUpper Paleolithic/NeolithicNeolithic
R10Grotta Continenza - RimossoT2c1+146--Grotta Continenza5717 - 5641 calBCEUpper Paleolithic/NeolithicNeolithic
R9Grotta Continenza; 0 2-3-4; tg.4; 1979K1a4a1G-L91Grotta Continenza5607 - 5485 calBCEEarly NeolithicNeolithic
R18Ripa Biance; MonteroloH2a--Ripabianca di Monterado5465 - 5232 calBCENeolithicNeolithic
R19Ripa Biance; MonteroloU5b3a1J-L26Ripabianca di Monterado5345 - 5221 calBCENeolithicNeolithic
R17Ripa Biance; MonteroloU8b1bJ-M304Ripabianca di Monterado5324 - 5223 calBCENeolithicNeolithic
R16Ripa Biance; MonteroloU5b2b3--Ripabianca di Monterado5301 - 5214 calBCENeolithicNeolithic
R6Grotta Continenza; Ind 3; female; Rimosso lgtg-80K1a1R-M343Grotta Continenza5242 - 5177 calBCEUpper Paleolithic/NeolithicNeolithic
R24Su Crocefissu; T.15; 6.4; IND. 12U8b1b1--Su Crocefissu3626 - 3374 calBCECopper (Chalcolithic) and Bronze Age(not included in analyses)
R1014Monte San Biagio Ind. B, ind. B, R. petrous, 2.5.18N1a1a1a3H-L901Monte San BiagioRinaldone Gaudo3500 - 2500 BCEEneolithicCopper Age
R4Grotta Continenza - RimossoK1a+195G-F1193Grotta Continenza2950 - 2880 calBCEUpper Paleolithic/NeolithicCopper Age
R5Grotta Continenza; BC; 7-89; Tg.10I1--Grotta Continenza2902 - 2877 calBCEUpper Paleolithic/NeolithicCopper Age
R25Su Crocefissu; T.16; b.2; CRANIO 2J1c3--Su Crocefissu3500 - 900 BCECopper (Chalcolithic) and Bronze Age(not included in analyses)
R26Su Crocefissu; T.16; e1; ind. 2H1j9I-CTS616Su Crocefissu3500 - 900 BCECopper (Chalcolithic) and Bronze Age(not included in analyses)
R27Su Crocefissu; T.c2 b2; Ind. 5 t.altiH1e1aI-M223Su Crocefissu3500 - 900 BCECopper (Chalcolithic) and Bronze Age(not included in analyses)
R28Su Crocefissu; T.c2 b2; Ind. 5 t.altiK1a+195--Su Crocefissu3500 - 900 BCECopper (Chalcolithic) and Bronze Age(not included in analyses)
R29Su Crocefissu; T.c2 b2; Ind. 5 t.altiJ2b1aG-PF3359Su Crocefissu3500 - 900 BCECopper (Chalcolithic) and Bronze Age(not included in analyses)
R22Su Crocefissu; T.16; c.2; IND. DHV0a--Su Crocefissu2010 - 1881 calBCECopper (Chalcolithic) and Bronze Age(not included in analyses)
R1Martin sicuro; Bronzo Finale; Protovillanovia; No; Inv. Pisa 254U5a2b--MartinsicuroProtovillanovia930 - 839 calBCELate Bronze Age/Early Iron AgeIron/Republic
R1015Veio Grotta Gramiccia T. 373K1a4--Veio Grotta GramicciaVillanovan900 - 800 BCEIron AgeIron/Republic
R1016Castel di Decima Tomba no. 206, R petrousH1aj1aR-M269Castel di DecimaLatini900 - 700 BCEIron Age AIron/Republic
R850Ardea, T101 II, L. petrous, 2.5.2018T2c1fT-L208ArdeaLatini800 - 500 BCEIron AgeIron/Republic
R851Ardea, antiquity, T26B, R. petrous, 2.5.2018H2aR-P311ArdeaLatini800 - 500 BCEIron AgeIron/Republic
R1021Boville Ernica T. 1. L. petrous, 2.5.18U4a1aR-PF7589Boville ErnicaLatini700 - 600 BCEIron Age BIron/Republic
R473Civitavecchia, La Mattonara, T. 3U5a1--CivitavecchiaEtruscan700 - 600 BCEIron Age/Roman RepublicIron/Republic
R474Civitavecchia, La Mattonara, T. 4HJ-M12CivitavecchiaEtruscan700 - 600 BCEIron Age/Roman RepublicIron/Republic
R475Civitavecchia, La Mattonara, T. 6AT2b32--CivitavecchiaEtruscan700 - 600 BCEIron Age/Roman RepublicIron/Republic
R435Palestrina Colombella; T. 19H11aR-P312Palestrina ColombellaLatin, Prenestini Tribe600 - 200 BCEIron Age/Roman RepublicIron/Republic
R437Palestina SelciataH10R-P312Palestrina SelciataLatin, Prenestini Tribe400 - 200 BCEIron Age/Roman RepublicIron/Republic
R42SCR; 67; Isola SacraU1a1--Isola SacraRoman Imperial22 - 120 calCEImperial RomeImperial
R80Viale Rossini; US 201U6a5--Viale Rossini (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial23 - 130 calCEImperial RomeImperial
R39SCR; 444; Isola SacraJ2b1c1--Isola SacraRoman Imperial68 - 130 calCEImperial RomeImperial
R436Palestrina Antina; I - II ADU5b3a--Palestrina AntinaRoman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R111burial 45HR-PF7589Via Paisiello (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R113burial 79H26a1E-V12Via Paisiello (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R114burial 114U1b1--Via Paisiello (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R115burial 132U4J-M92Via Paisiello (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R116Via Paisiello; US 491U3a2J-Z631Via Paisiello (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R131Via Paisiello; US 491T1a12G-FGC5089Via Paisiello (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R75Viale Rossini; US 120H14a--Viale Rossini (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R76Viale Rossini; US 121T2c1aJ-L26Viale Rossini (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R78Viale Rossini; US 152 (sample and label were wet when bag arrived)D4j11--Viale Rossini (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R81Viale Rossini; US 206K1b1cJ-M304Viale Rossini (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R1551Monterotondo Imperial T.7 L.petrous 2.5.18HJ-L26MonterotondoRoman Imperial55 - 211 calCEImperialImperial
R835T.16A R.petrous, 2.5.2018H2a5J-P58Civitanova MarcheRoman Imperial27 BCE - 300 CEImperialImperial
R836T.19C, L. petrous, 2.5.2018H5n--Civitanova MarcheRoman Imperial27 BCE - 300 CEImperialImperial
R1547Monterotondo Imperial T.1 R petrous 2.5.18K1a7J-CTS5368MonterotondoRoman Imperial27 BCE - 300 CEImperialImperial
R1548Monterotondo Imperial T.10 L. petrous 2.5.18H2aR-F1345MonterotondoRoman Imperial27 BCE - 300 CEImperialImperial
R1549Monterotondo Imperial T.2A R. petrous 2.5.18U5b2b3J-CTS5368MonterotondoRoman Imperial27 BCE - 300 CEImperialImperial
R1550Monterotondo Imperial T.5A 2.5.18T2c1cJ-M67MonterotondoRoman Imperial27 BCE - 300 CEImperialImperial
R1239T2a1bR-M269Casale del dolce Roman Imperial77- 213 calCEImperial Rome/Late AntiquityImperial
R66t. 6; Anas; PetrosaT2R-M207ANAS (Azienda Nazionale Autonoma delle Strada)Roman Imperial100-300 CEImperial RomeImperial
R67t. 15; Anas; PetrosaT2c1--ANAS (Azienda Nazionale Autonoma delle Strada)Roman Imperial100-300 CEImperial RomeImperial
R68t. 34; Anas; PetrosaU7a4a1aJ-L26ANAS (Azienda Nazionale Autonoma delle Strada)Roman Imperial100-300 CEImperial RomeImperial
R69t. 44; Anas; PetrosaX2l--ANAS (Azienda Nazionale Autonoma delle Strada)Roman Imperial100-300 CEImperial RomeImperial
R70t. 71; Anas; PetrosaT1aG-P303ANAS (Azienda Nazionale Autonoma delle Strada)Roman Imperial100-300 CEImperial RomeImperial
R71Anas; Setl. H; T. 79H5+709--ANAS (Azienda Nazionale Autonoma delle Strada)Roman Imperial100-300 CEImperial RomeImperial
R72t. 83; Anas; PetrosaT2g--ANAS (Azienda Nazionale Autonoma delle Strada)Roman Imperial100-300 CEImperial RomeImperial
R73Anas; Setl. H; T. 88J2a1a1a--ANAS (Azienda Nazionale Autonoma delle Strada)Roman Imperial100-300 CEImperial RomeImperial
R50Centocelle; ADL 2355; T.24H5J-M172CentocelleRoman Imperial135 - 244 calCEImperial RomeImperial
R12525T2k--Casale del dolce Roman Imperial0 - 400 CEImperial Rome/Late AntiquityImperial
R12865HV+16311J-CTS5368Casale del dolce Roman Imperial0 - 400 CEImperial Rome/Late AntiquityImperial
R132Marcellino & Pietro; AR0a2jG-Z3428Marcellino & PietroRoman Imperial136 - 326 calCELate AntiquityImperial
R49Centocelle; ADL 2000; US 2335; T. 20H1u--CentocelleRoman Imperial0 - 400 CEImperial RomeImperial
R51Centocelle; ADL; 2616U3b1--CentocelleRoman Imperial0 - 400 CEImperial RomeImperial
R37SCR; 426; Isola SacraU6a6a1--Isola SacraRoman Imperial1 - 400 CEImperial RomeImperial
R38SCR; 711; Isola SacraT2d2--Isola SacraRoman Imperial1 - 400 CEImperial RomeImperial
R40SCR; 479; Isola SacraK1a4a--Isola SacraRoman Imperial1 - 400 CEImperial RomeImperial
R41SCR; 306; Isola SacraH5a1--Isola SacraRoman Imperial1 - 400 CEImperial RomeImperial
R43SCR; 148; Isola SacraH7f--Isola SacraRoman Imperial1 - 400 CEImperial RomeImperial
R44SCR; 201; Isola SacraT2J-M304Isola SacraRoman Imperial1 - 400 CEImperial RomeImperial
R45SCR; 510; Isola SacraU3b1--Isola SacraRoman Imperial1 - 400 CEImperial RomeImperial
R1543Mazzano Romano Cranio 3H1eT-Z709Mazzano RomanoRoman Imperial1 - 400 CEImperialImperial
R1544Mazzano Romano T.1J1c--Mazzano RomanoRoman Imperial1 - 400 CEImperialImperial
R1545Mazzano Romana Tomba Camera Cranio 1H8cG-CTS9909Mazzano RomanoRoman Imperial1 - 400 CEImperialImperial
R47Centocelle; ADL 2000; US 2288; T 16J1c1cG-M406CentocelleRoman Imperial232 - 333 calCEImperial RomeImperial
R12627U6a7c1--Casale del dolce Roman Imperial240 - 334 calCEImperial Rome/Late AntiquityImperial
R130Marcellino & Pietro; C7H107J-L818Marcellino & Pietro300 - 500 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R133Marcellino & Pietro; BHV1a3--Marcellino & Pietro300 - 500 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R134Marcellino & Pietro; C2K1a4c1--Marcellino & Pietro300 - 500 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R136Marcellino & Pietro; C5T2d2J-L70Marcellino & Pietro300 - 500 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R137Marcellino & Pietro; C6U5b2a1a--Marcellino & Pietro300 - 500 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R31Mausoleo di Augusto; 2010; US 4093 = 4100K1c1R-Z302Mausoleo di Augusto332 - 419 calCELate Antiquity/Early MedievalLateAntiquity
R35Celio; Limite Sud; AMB XXIIH32--Celio400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R36Celio AT1a1R-Z145Celio400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R105T53T1aJ-M267Crypta Balbi400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R106754-2J2a1a1a2--Crypta Balbi400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R107754-1T2hE-V13Crypta Balbi400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R108754-3T2b+150G-Z726Crypta Balbi400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R109XII 130 BISH1ba--Crypta Balbi400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R110XII 127H1eI-M253Crypta Balbi400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R30Mausoleo di Augusto; 2010; US 4115/BL4a2G-CTS796Mausoleo di Augusto300 - 700 CELate Antiquity/Early MedievalLateAntiquity
R32Mausoleo di Augusto; 2010; US 4018H2a1I-CTS616Mausoleo di Augusto300 - 700 CELate Antiquity/Early MedievalLateAntiquity
R33Mausoleo di Augusto; 2010; US 4112K1aR-P312Mausoleo di Augusto300 - 700 CELate Antiquity/Early MedievalLateAntiquity
R34Mausoleo di Augusto; 2010; US 4112H+195+146J-M410Mausoleo di Augusto300 - 700 CELate Antiquity/Early MedievalLateAntiquity
R117110/352T2bJ-M410San Ercolano400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R118215/22H1e1aH-P96San Ercolano400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R1201072/82I1cT-L446San Ercolano400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R1211112/38H17--San Ercolano400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R1221119-1130/39J1c+16261--San Ercolano400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R104754-4U5b3a1aI-PF4088Crypta Balbi400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R1283Palazzo della Cancelleria US 294 65 AH12J-M12Cancelleria771 - 947 calCEMedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R60VM 10; MON 3885T2c1--Villa Magna820 - 990 calCEEarly MedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R59VM 3864N1b1aE-V12Villa Magna820 - 990 calCEEarly MedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R63VM 09; BII; 4274K1a2aI-M423Villa Magna970 - 1010 calCECentral Medieval AMedieval/EarlyModern
R1285Palazzo della Cancelleria US 394T2c1aC-V222Cancelleria974 - 1035 calCEMedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R58VM 09; MON BI; 3550H1c3R-Z306Villa Magna700 - 1500 CEMedieval (General)Medieval/EarlyModern
R57VM 3524I1a1a3--Villa Magna1070 - 1150 calCECentral Medieval BMedieval/EarlyModern
R65VM 09; MON BII; 4378T2b--Villa Magna1070 - 1150 calCECentral Medieval BMedieval/EarlyModern
R64VM 4342HV0aG-Z6800Villa Magna1070 - 1150 calCECentral Medieval BMedieval/EarlyModern
R62VM 4142HV0a--Villa Magna1130 - 1300 calCECentral Medieval CMedieval/EarlyModern
R1290Palazzo della Cancelleria US 501 94H1c3a--Cancelleria1295 - 1400 calCEMedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R52VM 07; MON BI; 2306T1a1G-PF3239Villa Magna1280 - 1430 calCELate MedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R53VM 08; MON BI; 2676U2e1c1E-V257Villa Magna1280 - 1430 calCELate MedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R55VM 08; MON BI; 2757J2b1aG-Z30771Villa Magna1280 - 1430 calCELate MedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R56VM BI 2857U5b3f--Villa Magna1280 - 1430 calCELate MedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R61VM 07; BII; 4067HVR-PF7589Villa Magna1280 - 1430 calCELate MedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R54VM 09 BI 2688H4a1J-Z1296Villa Magna1280 - 1430 calCELate MedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R1287Palazzo della Cancelleria US 450 BT2bR-U152Cancelleria1411 - 1447 calCEMedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R1288Palazzo della Cancelleria US 450 CI3a1--Cancelleria1411 - 1447 calCEMedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R1289Palazzo della Cancelleria US 450 DK1a4a1--Cancelleria1411 - 1447 calCEMedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R1286Palazzo della Cancelleria US 450 AH1g1I-M253Cancelleria1411 - 1447 calCEMedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R1219Cancelleria US 17 1H11aE-V13Cancelleria1417 - 1463 calCERenaissanceMedieval/EarlyModern
R1220Cancelleria US 17 2T2f1a1R-P312Cancelleria1480-1490 CERenaissanceMedieval/EarlyModern
R1221Cancelleria US 17 6H1e2J-L70Cancelleria1480-1490 CERenaissanceMedieval/EarlyModern
R1224Cancelleria US 17 38T2b4fG-CTS10391Cancelleria1480-1490 CERenaissanceMedieval/EarlyModern
R97049/G/72J1b3J-L70Tivoli Palazzo Cianti1600-1700 CERenaissanceMedieval/EarlyModern
R97345/G/72HV+16311--Tivoli Palazzo Cianti1600-1700 CERenaissanceMedieval/EarlyModern
R96934/G/73U5bJ-M67Tivoli Palazzo Cianti1600-1700 CERenaissanceMedieval/EarlyModern

Dick
11-11-2019, 10:58 PM
this is the official table



SampleArchaeological ID and NotesmtDNAY-chrSiteCultural AffiliationDatePeriod according to archaeological contextPeriod Label for Analyses
R11Grotta Continenza; -2; 31C; 2; 8; same individualU5b1+16189+@16192I-M436Grotta Continenza10100 - 9816 calBCEUpper Paleolithic/NeolithicMesolithic
R7Grotta Continenza; 1993U5b1+16189+@16192I-M223Grotta Continenza8821 - 8642 calBCEUpper Paleolithic/NeolithicMesolithic
R15Continenza 2009; 4BB; t.21/23U5b3I-M223Grotta Continenza7284 - 7065 calBCECastelnovian MesolithicMesolithic
R2Grotta Continenza; Taglio; 15-17K1a2--Grotta Continenza6066 - 6002 calBCEEarly NeolithicNeolithic
R3Grotta Continenza - RimossoN1a1a1--Grotta Continenza5836 - 5723 calBCEUpper Paleolithic/NeolithicNeolithic
R8Grotta Continenza; Rimosso; 1979-80; H1 rip.K1a3--Grotta Continenza5832 - 5715 calBCEUpper Paleolithic/NeolithicNeolithic
R10Grotta Continenza - RimossoT2c1+146--Grotta Continenza5717 - 5641 calBCEUpper Paleolithic/NeolithicNeolithic
R9Grotta Continenza; 0 2-3-4; tg.4; 1979K1a4a1G-L91Grotta Continenza5607 - 5485 calBCEEarly NeolithicNeolithic
R18Ripa Biance; MonteroloH2a--Ripabianca di Monterado5465 - 5232 calBCENeolithicNeolithic
R19Ripa Biance; MonteroloU5b3a1J-L26Ripabianca di Monterado5345 - 5221 calBCENeolithicNeolithic
R17Ripa Biance; MonteroloU8b1bJ-M304Ripabianca di Monterado5324 - 5223 calBCENeolithicNeolithic
R16Ripa Biance; MonteroloU5b2b3--Ripabianca di Monterado5301 - 5214 calBCENeolithicNeolithic
R6Grotta Continenza; Ind 3; female; Rimosso lgtg-80K1a1R-M343Grotta Continenza5242 - 5177 calBCEUpper Paleolithic/NeolithicNeolithic
R24Su Crocefissu; T.15; 6.4; IND. 12U8b1b1--Su Crocefissu3626 - 3374 calBCECopper (Chalcolithic) and Bronze Age(not included in analyses)
R1014Monte San Biagio Ind. B, ind. B, R. petrous, 2.5.18N1a1a1a3H-L901Monte San BiagioRinaldone Gaudo3500 - 2500 BCEEneolithicCopper Age
R4Grotta Continenza - RimossoK1a+195G-F1193Grotta Continenza2950 - 2880 calBCEUpper Paleolithic/NeolithicCopper Age
R5Grotta Continenza; BC; 7-89; Tg.10I1--Grotta Continenza2902 - 2877 calBCEUpper Paleolithic/NeolithicCopper Age
R25Su Crocefissu; T.16; b.2; CRANIO 2J1c3--Su Crocefissu3500 - 900 BCECopper (Chalcolithic) and Bronze Age(not included in analyses)
R26Su Crocefissu; T.16; e1; ind. 2H1j9I-CTS616Su Crocefissu3500 - 900 BCECopper (Chalcolithic) and Bronze Age(not included in analyses)
R27Su Crocefissu; T.c2 b2; Ind. 5 t.altiH1e1aI-M223Su Crocefissu3500 - 900 BCECopper (Chalcolithic) and Bronze Age(not included in analyses)
R28Su Crocefissu; T.c2 b2; Ind. 5 t.altiK1a+195--Su Crocefissu3500 - 900 BCECopper (Chalcolithic) and Bronze Age(not included in analyses)
R29Su Crocefissu; T.c2 b2; Ind. 5 t.altiJ2b1aG-PF3359Su Crocefissu3500 - 900 BCECopper (Chalcolithic) and Bronze Age(not included in analyses)
R22Su Crocefissu; T.16; c.2; IND. DHV0a--Su Crocefissu2010 - 1881 calBCECopper (Chalcolithic) and Bronze Age(not included in analyses)
R1Martin sicuro; Bronzo Finale; Protovillanovia; No; Inv. Pisa 254U5a2b--MartinsicuroProtovillanovia930 - 839 calBCELate Bronze Age/Early Iron AgeIron/Republic
R1015Veio Grotta Gramiccia T. 373K1a4--Veio Grotta GramicciaVillanovan900 - 800 BCEIron AgeIron/Republic
R1016Castel di Decima Tomba no. 206, R petrousH1aj1aR-M269Castel di DecimaLatini900 - 700 BCEIron Age AIron/Republic
R850Ardea, T101 II, L. petrous, 2.5.2018T2c1fT-L208ArdeaLatini800 - 500 BCEIron AgeIron/Republic
R851Ardea, antiquity, T26B, R. petrous, 2.5.2018H2aR-P311ArdeaLatini800 - 500 BCEIron AgeIron/Republic
R1021Boville Ernica T. 1. L. petrous, 2.5.18U4a1aR-PF7589Boville ErnicaLatini700 - 600 BCEIron Age BIron/Republic
R473Civitavecchia, La Mattonara, T. 3U5a1--CivitavecchiaEtruscan700 - 600 BCEIron Age/Roman RepublicIron/Republic
R474Civitavecchia, La Mattonara, T. 4HJ-M12CivitavecchiaEtruscan700 - 600 BCEIron Age/Roman RepublicIron/Republic
R475Civitavecchia, La Mattonara, T. 6AT2b32--CivitavecchiaEtruscan700 - 600 BCEIron Age/Roman RepublicIron/Republic
R435Palestrina Colombella; T. 19H11aR-P312Palestrina ColombellaLatin, Prenestini Tribe600 - 200 BCEIron Age/Roman RepublicIron/Republic
R437Palestina SelciataH10R-P312Palestrina SelciataLatin, Prenestini Tribe400 - 200 BCEIron Age/Roman RepublicIron/Republic
R42SCR; 67; Isola SacraU1a1--Isola SacraRoman Imperial22 - 120 calCEImperial RomeImperial
R80Viale Rossini; US 201U6a5--Viale Rossini (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial23 - 130 calCEImperial RomeImperial
R39SCR; 444; Isola SacraJ2b1c1--Isola SacraRoman Imperial68 - 130 calCEImperial RomeImperial
R436Palestrina Antina; I - II ADU5b3a--Palestrina AntinaRoman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R111burial 45HR-PF7589Via Paisiello (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R113burial 79H26a1E-V12Via Paisiello (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R114burial 114U1b1--Via Paisiello (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R115burial 132U4J-M92Via Paisiello (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R116Via Paisiello; US 491U3a2J-Z631Via Paisiello (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R131Via Paisiello; US 491T1a12G-FGC5089Via Paisiello (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R75Viale Rossini; US 120H14a--Viale Rossini (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R76Viale Rossini; US 121T2c1aJ-L26Viale Rossini (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R78Viale Rossini; US 152 (sample and label were wet when bag arrived)D4j11--Viale Rossini (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R81Viale Rossini; US 206K1b1cJ-M304Viale Rossini (Necropoli Salaria)Roman Imperial0 - 200 CEImperial RomeImperial
R1551Monterotondo Imperial T.7 L.petrous 2.5.18HJ-L26MonterotondoRoman Imperial55 - 211 calCEImperialImperial
R835T.16A R.petrous, 2.5.2018H2a5J-P58Civitanova MarcheRoman Imperial27 BCE - 300 CEImperialImperial
R836T.19C, L. petrous, 2.5.2018H5n--Civitanova MarcheRoman Imperial27 BCE - 300 CEImperialImperial
R1547Monterotondo Imperial T.1 R petrous 2.5.18K1a7J-CTS5368MonterotondoRoman Imperial27 BCE - 300 CEImperialImperial
R1548Monterotondo Imperial T.10 L. petrous 2.5.18H2aR-F1345MonterotondoRoman Imperial27 BCE - 300 CEImperialImperial
R1549Monterotondo Imperial T.2A R. petrous 2.5.18U5b2b3J-CTS5368MonterotondoRoman Imperial27 BCE - 300 CEImperialImperial
R1550Monterotondo Imperial T.5A 2.5.18T2c1cJ-M67MonterotondoRoman Imperial27 BCE - 300 CEImperialImperial
R1239T2a1bR-M269Casale del dolce Roman Imperial77- 213 calCEImperial Rome/Late AntiquityImperial
R66t. 6; Anas; PetrosaT2R-M207ANAS (Azienda Nazionale Autonoma delle Strada)Roman Imperial100-300 CEImperial RomeImperial
R67t. 15; Anas; PetrosaT2c1--ANAS (Azienda Nazionale Autonoma delle Strada)Roman Imperial100-300 CEImperial RomeImperial
R68t. 34; Anas; PetrosaU7a4a1aJ-L26ANAS (Azienda Nazionale Autonoma delle Strada)Roman Imperial100-300 CEImperial RomeImperial
R69t. 44; Anas; PetrosaX2l--ANAS (Azienda Nazionale Autonoma delle Strada)Roman Imperial100-300 CEImperial RomeImperial
R70t. 71; Anas; PetrosaT1aG-P303ANAS (Azienda Nazionale Autonoma delle Strada)Roman Imperial100-300 CEImperial RomeImperial
R71Anas; Setl. H; T. 79H5+709--ANAS (Azienda Nazionale Autonoma delle Strada)Roman Imperial100-300 CEImperial RomeImperial
R72t. 83; Anas; PetrosaT2g--ANAS (Azienda Nazionale Autonoma delle Strada)Roman Imperial100-300 CEImperial RomeImperial
R73Anas; Setl. H; T. 88J2a1a1a--ANAS (Azienda Nazionale Autonoma delle Strada)Roman Imperial100-300 CEImperial RomeImperial
R50Centocelle; ADL 2355; T.24H5J-M172CentocelleRoman Imperial135 - 244 calCEImperial RomeImperial
R12525T2k--Casale del dolce Roman Imperial0 - 400 CEImperial Rome/Late AntiquityImperial
R12865HV+16311J-CTS5368Casale del dolce Roman Imperial0 - 400 CEImperial Rome/Late AntiquityImperial
R132Marcellino & Pietro; AR0a2jG-Z3428Marcellino & PietroRoman Imperial136 - 326 calCELate AntiquityImperial
R49Centocelle; ADL 2000; US 2335; T. 20H1u--CentocelleRoman Imperial0 - 400 CEImperial RomeImperial
R51Centocelle; ADL; 2616U3b1--CentocelleRoman Imperial0 - 400 CEImperial RomeImperial
R37SCR; 426; Isola SacraU6a6a1--Isola SacraRoman Imperial1 - 400 CEImperial RomeImperial
R38SCR; 711; Isola SacraT2d2--Isola SacraRoman Imperial1 - 400 CEImperial RomeImperial
R40SCR; 479; Isola SacraK1a4a--Isola SacraRoman Imperial1 - 400 CEImperial RomeImperial
R41SCR; 306; Isola SacraH5a1--Isola SacraRoman Imperial1 - 400 CEImperial RomeImperial
R43SCR; 148; Isola SacraH7f--Isola SacraRoman Imperial1 - 400 CEImperial RomeImperial
R44SCR; 201; Isola SacraT2J-M304Isola SacraRoman Imperial1 - 400 CEImperial RomeImperial
R45SCR; 510; Isola SacraU3b1--Isola SacraRoman Imperial1 - 400 CEImperial RomeImperial
R1543Mazzano Romano Cranio 3H1eT-Z709Mazzano RomanoRoman Imperial1 - 400 CEImperialImperial
R1544Mazzano Romano T.1J1c--Mazzano RomanoRoman Imperial1 - 400 CEImperialImperial
R1545Mazzano Romana Tomba Camera Cranio 1H8cG-CTS9909Mazzano RomanoRoman Imperial1 - 400 CEImperialImperial
R47Centocelle; ADL 2000; US 2288; T 16J1c1cG-M406CentocelleRoman Imperial232 - 333 calCEImperial RomeImperial
R12627U6a7c1--Casale del dolce Roman Imperial240 - 334 calCEImperial Rome/Late AntiquityImperial
R130Marcellino & Pietro; C7H107J-L818Marcellino & Pietro300 - 500 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R133Marcellino & Pietro; BHV1a3--Marcellino & Pietro300 - 500 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R134Marcellino & Pietro; C2K1a4c1--Marcellino & Pietro300 - 500 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R136Marcellino & Pietro; C5T2d2J-L70Marcellino & Pietro300 - 500 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R137Marcellino & Pietro; C6U5b2a1a--Marcellino & Pietro300 - 500 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R31Mausoleo di Augusto; 2010; US 4093 = 4100K1c1R-Z302Mausoleo di Augusto332 - 419 calCELate Antiquity/Early MedievalLateAntiquity
R35Celio; Limite Sud; AMB XXIIH32--Celio400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R36Celio AT1a1R-Z145Celio400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R105T53T1aJ-M267Crypta Balbi400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R106754-2J2a1a1a2--Crypta Balbi400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R107754-1T2hE-V13Crypta Balbi400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R108754-3T2b+150G-Z726Crypta Balbi400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R109XII 130 BISH1ba--Crypta Balbi400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R110XII 127H1eI-M253Crypta Balbi400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R30Mausoleo di Augusto; 2010; US 4115/BL4a2G-CTS796Mausoleo di Augusto300 - 700 CELate Antiquity/Early MedievalLateAntiquity
R32Mausoleo di Augusto; 2010; US 4018H2a1I-CTS616Mausoleo di Augusto300 - 700 CELate Antiquity/Early MedievalLateAntiquity
R33Mausoleo di Augusto; 2010; US 4112K1aR-P312Mausoleo di Augusto300 - 700 CELate Antiquity/Early MedievalLateAntiquity
R34Mausoleo di Augusto; 2010; US 4112H+195+146J-M410Mausoleo di Augusto300 - 700 CELate Antiquity/Early MedievalLateAntiquity
R117110/352T2bJ-M410San Ercolano400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R118215/22H1e1aH-P96San Ercolano400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R1201072/82I1cT-L446San Ercolano400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R1211112/38H17--San Ercolano400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R1221119-1130/39J1c+16261--San Ercolano400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R104754-4U5b3a1aI-PF4088Crypta Balbi400 - 600 CELate AntiquityLateAntiquity
R1283Palazzo della Cancelleria US 294 65 AH12J-M12Cancelleria771 - 947 calCEMedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R60VM 10; MON 3885T2c1--Villa Magna820 - 990 calCEEarly MedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R59VM 3864N1b1aE-V12Villa Magna820 - 990 calCEEarly MedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R63VM 09; BII; 4274K1a2aI-M423Villa Magna970 - 1010 calCECentral Medieval AMedieval/EarlyModern
R1285Palazzo della Cancelleria US 394T2c1aC-V222Cancelleria974 - 1035 calCEMedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R58VM 09; MON BI; 3550H1c3R-Z306Villa Magna700 - 1500 CEMedieval (General)Medieval/EarlyModern
R57VM 3524I1a1a3--Villa Magna1070 - 1150 calCECentral Medieval BMedieval/EarlyModern
R65VM 09; MON BII; 4378T2b--Villa Magna1070 - 1150 calCECentral Medieval BMedieval/EarlyModern
R64VM 4342HV0aG-Z6800Villa Magna1070 - 1150 calCECentral Medieval BMedieval/EarlyModern
R62VM 4142HV0a--Villa Magna1130 - 1300 calCECentral Medieval CMedieval/EarlyModern
R1290Palazzo della Cancelleria US 501 94H1c3a--Cancelleria1295 - 1400 calCEMedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R52VM 07; MON BI; 2306T1a1G-PF3239Villa Magna1280 - 1430 calCELate MedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R53VM 08; MON BI; 2676U2e1c1E-V257Villa Magna1280 - 1430 calCELate MedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R55VM 08; MON BI; 2757J2b1aG-Z30771Villa Magna1280 - 1430 calCELate MedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R56VM BI 2857U5b3f--Villa Magna1280 - 1430 calCELate MedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R61VM 07; BII; 4067HVR-PF7589Villa Magna1280 - 1430 calCELate MedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R54VM 09 BI 2688H4a1J-Z1296Villa Magna1280 - 1430 calCELate MedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R1287Palazzo della Cancelleria US 450 BT2bR-U152Cancelleria1411 - 1447 calCEMedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R1288Palazzo della Cancelleria US 450 CI3a1--Cancelleria1411 - 1447 calCEMedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R1289Palazzo della Cancelleria US 450 DK1a4a1--Cancelleria1411 - 1447 calCEMedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R1286Palazzo della Cancelleria US 450 AH1g1I-M253Cancelleria1411 - 1447 calCEMedievalMedieval/EarlyModern
R1219Cancelleria US 17 1H11aE-V13Cancelleria1417 - 1463 calCERenaissanceMedieval/EarlyModern
R1220Cancelleria US 17 2T2f1a1R-P312Cancelleria1480-1490 CERenaissanceMedieval/EarlyModern
R1221Cancelleria US 17 6H1e2J-L70Cancelleria1480-1490 CERenaissanceMedieval/EarlyModern
R1224Cancelleria US 17 38T2b4fG-CTS10391Cancelleria1480-1490 CERenaissanceMedieval/EarlyModern
R97049/G/72J1b3J-L70Tivoli Palazzo Cianti1600-1700 CERenaissanceMedieval/EarlyModern
R97345/G/72HV+16311--Tivoli Palazzo Cianti1600-1700 CERenaissanceMedieval/EarlyModern
R96934/G/73U5bJ-M67Tivoli Palazzo Cianti1600-1700 CERenaissanceMedieval/EarlyModern


Who is R1288 Palazzo della Cancelleria US 450 C

vbnetkhio
11-11-2019, 11:01 PM
Who is R1288 Palazzo della Cancelleria US 450 C

it's medieval, scroll right for more info

Samnium
11-11-2019, 11:04 PM
Who is R1288Palazzo della Cancelleria US 450 C"Palace of the Chancellery" in italian

An urban sample for sure

Token
11-11-2019, 11:04 PM
Why not simply stick to Carioca threads?

https://i.imgur.com/ebqndwe.png

Oh, i forgot to mention Italianized Frenchmen.

Samnium
11-11-2019, 11:24 PM
Oh, i forgot to mention Italianized Frenchmen.Or gallicized Italianmen you could have said.

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Karol Klačansky
11-11-2019, 11:31 PM
https://www.history.com/.amp/news/ancient-rome-immigration-slavery

Short article about immigration to Rome, nothing too insightful but kind of interesting.

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Kamal900
11-12-2019, 01:17 AM
My results using scaled ancient averages

Distance to: Moody_scaled
0.03969613 Levant_LBN_Roman
0.04100404 Levant_LBN_MA_NE
0.04771527 Levant_Canaanite_MBA
0.05113403 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
0.05189904 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2
0.06052045 ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.06124604 Levant_ISR_MLBA
0.06192875 IND_Roopkund_B_o
0.06321459 Anatolia_Ovaoren_EBA
0.06454854 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
0.06575159 ITA_Collegno_MA_o1
0.06732573 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1
0.06845254 IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C
0.06952581 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
0.07043474 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA_o
0.07167942 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
0.07564661 Anatolia_Barcin_C
0.07780496 Ostrogothic_Crimea_ACD
0.07951661 IND_Roopkund_B
0.07964302 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
0.08046605 Levant_JOR_EBA
0.08125118 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
0.08131936 ARM_Areni_C
0.08177081 EGY_Late_Period
0.08319069 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_Historic

happycow

Distance to: TimA_scaled
0.04482917 Levant_LBN_Roman
0.04708275 Levant_Canaanite_MBA
0.04726608 Levant_LBN_MA_NE
0.05121750 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
0.05175846 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2
0.05574646 Levant_ISR_MLBA
0.05712185 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
0.06851053 EGY_Late_Period
0.07130439 ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.07217660 Anatolia_Ovaoren_EBA
0.07237394 Levant_JOR_EBA
0.07468408 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1
0.07552369 IND_Roopkund_B_o
0.07590190 ITA_Collegno_MA_o1
0.07719644 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA_o
0.07879922 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
0.08180365 IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C
0.08232156 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
0.08364395 EGY_Hellenistic
0.08930459 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
0.08979919 IND_Roopkund_B
0.09081463 Anatolia_Barcin_C
0.09161802 Ostrogothic_Crimea_ACD
0.09283709 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
0.09704926 ARM_Areni_C

Kamal900
11-12-2019, 01:27 AM
My results using ancient samples:

Distance to: Moody_scaled
0.03534691 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR42
0.03535212 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1550
0.03818439 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-45
0.03949403 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-2
0.04023257 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR67
0.04169885 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1547
0.04458724 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR68
0.04607430 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-7
0.04703649 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR41
0.04789017 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790733
0.04793320 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH066
0.04811600 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR70
0.04833605 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790732
0.04866404 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2:ASH8
0.04899878 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-12
0.05057932 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-4
0.05060990 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-42
0.05111293 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790730
0.05243314 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR76
0.05313171 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA:ASH34
0.05320211 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR73
0.05491630 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-38
0.05507365 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR134
0.05588090 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790731
0.05601748 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1543

My Palestinian friend from the west bank:

Distance to: TimA_scaled
0.03829763 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR42
0.04244760 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1550
0.04258636 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-45
0.04430297 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-2
0.04523898 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790732
0.04707094 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1547
0.04792843 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH066
0.04976285 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790730
0.05081679 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790733
0.05121750 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o:3DT26
0.05130665 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2:ASH8
0.05148902 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-7
0.05153303 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-12
0.05206548 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR67
0.05296748 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-42
0.05370550 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR70
0.05543196 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790731
0.05574646 Levant_ISR_MLBA:I2062
0.05574700 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-4
0.05769039 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR41
0.05828507 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR73
0.05914602 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR68
0.06125543 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR76
0.06169093 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790729
0.06204388 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-38

Palestinian Muslims:

Distance to: Palestinian_Muslims
0.04298080 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR42
0.04653759 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1550
0.04710676 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o:3DT26
0.04837607 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790732
0.04923677 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-2
0.05198397 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH066
0.05198712 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-42
0.05295206 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790730
0.05301314 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790733
0.05339362 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1547
0.05365409 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2:ASH8
0.05366487 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-45
0.05369736 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790731
0.05700289 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-12
0.05918128 Levant_ISR_MLBA:I2062
0.05951718 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-7
0.05998424 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR67
0.06051236 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR70
0.06054462 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-4
0.06185443 EGY_Late_Period:JK2911
0.06364982 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-38
0.06443853 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790729
0.06511866 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA:ASH29
0.06646650 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR73
0.06652262 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2:ASH135

Palestinian Christians:

Distance to: Palestinian_Christians
0.02256962 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1550
0.02544114 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR42
0.02565965 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-4
0.02794325 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-2
0.02903796 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-38
0.03015660 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR70
0.03068254 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790730
0.03091293 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1547
0.03377630 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-12
0.03468760 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-45
0.03732040 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2:ASH8
0.03819486 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-7
0.03873564 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA:ASH34
0.03968561 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790732
0.03987998 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR76
0.04010266 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790733
0.04087811 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR73
0.04107552 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790731
0.04469543 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR126
0.04479337 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR41
0.04560430 Levant_ISR_MLBA:I2062
0.04613284 Anatolia_Ovaoren_EBA:MA2212
0.04678312 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR67
0.04727527 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-44
0.04741798 Anatolia_Ovaoren_EBA:MA2210

Samnium
11-12-2019, 04:50 AM
My results using ancient samples:

Distance to: Moody_scaled
0.03534691 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR42
0.03535212 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1550
0.03818439 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-45
0.03949403 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-2
0.04023257 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR67
0.04169885 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1547
0.04458724 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR68
0.04607430 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-7
0.04703649 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR41
0.04789017 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790733
0.04793320 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH066
0.04811600 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR70
0.04833605 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790732
0.04866404 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2:ASH8
0.04899878 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-12
0.05057932 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-4
0.05060990 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-42
0.05111293 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790730
0.05243314 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR76
0.05313171 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA:ASH34
0.05320211 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR73
0.05491630 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-38
0.05507365 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR134
0.05588090 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790731
0.05601748 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1543

My Palestinian friend from the west bank:

Distance to: TimA_scaled
0.03829763 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR42
0.04244760 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1550
0.04258636 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-45
0.04430297 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-2
0.04523898 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790732
0.04707094 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1547
0.04792843 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH066
0.04976285 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790730
0.05081679 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790733
0.05121750 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o:3DT26
0.05130665 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2:ASH8
0.05148902 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-7
0.05153303 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-12
0.05206548 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR67
0.05296748 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-42
0.05370550 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR70
0.05543196 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790731
0.05574646 Levant_ISR_MLBA:I2062
0.05574700 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-4
0.05769039 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR41
0.05828507 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR73
0.05914602 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR68
0.06125543 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR76
0.06169093 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790729
0.06204388 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-38

Palestinian Muslims:

Distance to: Palestinian_Muslims
0.04298080 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR42
0.04653759 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1550
0.04710676 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o:3DT26
0.04837607 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790732
0.04923677 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-2
0.05198397 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH066
0.05198712 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-42
0.05295206 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790730
0.05301314 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790733
0.05339362 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1547
0.05365409 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2:ASH8
0.05366487 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-45
0.05369736 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790731
0.05700289 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-12
0.05918128 Levant_ISR_MLBA:I2062
0.05951718 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-7
0.05998424 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR67
0.06051236 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR70
0.06054462 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-4
0.06185443 EGY_Late_Period:JK2911
0.06364982 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-38
0.06443853 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790729
0.06511866 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA:ASH29
0.06646650 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR73
0.06652262 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2:ASH135

Palestinian Christians:

Distance to: Palestinian_Christians
0.02256962 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1550
0.02544114 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR42
0.02565965 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-4
0.02794325 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-2
0.02903796 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-38
0.03015660 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR70
0.03068254 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790730
0.03091293 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1547
0.03377630 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-12
0.03468760 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-45
0.03732040 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2:ASH8
0.03819486 Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-7
0.03873564 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA:ASH34
0.03968561 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790732
0.03987998 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR76
0.04010266 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790733
0.04087811 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR73
0.04107552 Levant_Canaanite_MBA:ERS1790731
0.04469543 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR126
0.04479337 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR41
0.04560430 Levant_ISR_MLBA:I2062
0.04613284 Anatolia_Ovaoren_EBA:MA2212
0.04678312 ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR67
0.04727527 Levant_LBN_MA_NE:SI-44
0.04741798 Anatolia_Ovaoren_EBA:MA2210

I will put the distances on these, would be interesting.

savvas
11-12-2019, 10:12 AM
Distances to the various samples averages of the study (comparing to italian averages) :


Add French and Iberians, please.

Samnium
11-12-2019, 10:17 AM
Add French and Iberians, please.No problem I will do that today or tomorrow.

vbnetkhio
11-12-2019, 12:25 PM
Samples from study in 23&me format. Download it from Google Drive and then upload to Gedmatch, I have no time for that:)
Converted with -geno 0.1 parameter in PLINK.


Link to archive https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_a8Fb60NXeCP4L3C6W2tDsdgl-DdQ_fD


why are there only 20 chromosomes?

Samnium
11-12-2019, 12:29 PM
why are there only 20 chromosomes?The sexual chromosome is not included in the analysis, someone has said that a few pages ago.

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vbnetkhio
11-12-2019, 12:33 PM
The sexual chromosome is not included in the analysis, someone has said that a few pages ago.

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i said it, x,y, and mt aren't included, but here chromosomes 21 and 22 are also missing

Samnium
11-12-2019, 12:34 PM
i said it, x,y, and mt aren't included, but here chromosomes 21 and 22 are also missingThat's why gedmatch got me an error when I tried to upload them.

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SharpFork
11-12-2019, 12:47 PM
Where can I look into the samples' chronology and exact location?

Leto
11-12-2019, 12:47 PM
Go there, dozens of members have analyzed the Y-DNA of these samples :

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?18871-Ancient-Rome-A-genetic-crossroads-of-Europe-and-the-Mediterranean
Was R1a even present in Republican/Emperial Rome?

Samnium
11-12-2019, 12:50 PM
Was R1a even present in Republican/Emperial Rome?Don't know I can ask in this thread (not now I'm occupied)

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vbnetkhio
11-12-2019, 12:51 PM
Was R1a even present in Republican/Emperial Rome?

Monterotondo Roman Imperial No 27 BCE - 300 CE Imperial Imperial 30-min (partial) 314351 Male H2a R-F1345
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-F1345/

this is the only r1a in the paper.

vbnetkhio
11-12-2019, 12:55 PM
Where can I look into the samples' chronology and exact location?

here
https://ufile.io/ljyfu5h3

Leto
11-12-2019, 12:57 PM
Monterotondo Roman Imperial No 27 BCE - 300 CE Imperial Imperial 30-min (partial) 314351 Male H2a R-F1345
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-F1345/

this is the only r1a in the paper.
Looks like it belongs to the Asian Z93 branch, not Balto-Slavic.

vbnetkhio
11-12-2019, 01:03 PM
Looks like it belongs to the Asian Z93 branch, not Balto-Slavic.

it seems both Iranic and Balto-Slavic

maybe somebody at anthrogenica did a deepeer prediction, that would be helpful

SharpFork
11-12-2019, 01:07 PM
here
https://ufile.io/ljyfu5h3
Thanks, the location is very precise but do you know if they have a precise definition of the eras or even the exact dating of the samples(the former would be enough if it's not too broad)

vbnetkhio
11-12-2019, 01:09 PM
Thanks, the location is very precise but do you know if they have a precise definition of the eras or even the exact dating of the samples(the former would be enough if it's not too broad)

check the other sheets/tables, there are 4 of them in the file

Kamal900
11-12-2019, 01:27 PM
It seems that we Palestinians cluster with these following Imperial era Romans:
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR42
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1550
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1547
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR67
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR70
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR73

Distance to: ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR42
0.02329748 Lebanese_Christian
0.02538328 Samaritan
0.02544114 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.02843713 Lebanese_Druze
0.03014814 Druze
0.03074464 Karaite_Egypt
0.03374425 Lebanese_Muslim
0.04015983 Iraqi_Jew
0.04200302 Cypriot
0.04279190 Syrian_Jew
0.04298080 Palestinian
0.04492420 Syrian
0.04946323 Tunisian_Jew
0.05055548 Libyan_Jew
0.05206490 Romaniote_Jew
0.05260988 Iranian_Jew
0.05865043 Georgian_Jew
0.05938280 BedouinA
0.06007677 Assyrian
0.06072902 Sephardic_Jew
0.06432486 Italian_Jew
0.06482849 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.06563291 Armenian
0.06662020 Moroccan_Jew
0.06971366 Greek_Kos

Distance to: ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1550
0.02256962 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.03335284 Lebanese_Christian
0.03348375 Druze
0.03406180 Lebanese_Druze
0.03719163 Lebanese_Muslim
0.03928213 Syrian_Jew
0.04226554 Cypriot
0.04244863 Karaite_Egypt
0.04439274 Syrian
0.04653759 Palestinian
0.04685551 Libyan_Jew
0.04731266 Romaniote_Jew
0.04814715 Tunisian_Jew
0.04956556 Samaritan
0.05107727 Iraqi_Jew
0.05603552 Moroccan_Jew
0.05607043 Iranian_Jew
0.05614754 Sephardic_Jew
0.05638813 Georgian_Jew
0.05747577 Italian_Jew
0.05966749 Assyrian
0.06107505 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.06171828 Greek_Kos
0.06362556 BedouinA
0.06652404 Armenian

Distance to: ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1547
0.02958786 Lebanese_Christian
0.03091293 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.03421386 Samaritan
0.03523272 Lebanese_Druze
0.03709840 Druze
0.03892316 Karaite_Egypt
0.04007189 Cypriot
0.04056934 Lebanese_Muslim
0.04372457 Syrian_Jew
0.04760754 Iraqi_Jew
0.04763424 Tunisian_Jew
0.05035731 Romaniote_Jew
0.05059365 Libyan_Jew
0.05262616 Syrian
0.05339362 Palestinian
0.05872392 Sephardic_Jew
0.05877216 Iranian_Jew
0.06248532 Italian_Jew
0.06302663 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.06359961 Georgian_Jew
0.06475447 Assyrian
0.06503706 Moroccan_Jew
0.06713376 BedouinA
0.06732013 Armenian
0.06736647 Greek_Kos

Distance to: ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR67
0.02938263 Georgian_Jew
0.02983696 Assyrian
0.03073832 Iranian_Jew
0.03329214 Lebanese_Muslim
0.03347328 Syrian
0.03393933 Lebanese_Druze
0.03444633 Druze
0.03452415 Iraqi_Jew
0.04001375 Armenian
0.04248991 Karaite_Egypt
0.04500521 Lebanese_Christian
0.04543808 Syrian_Jew
0.04678312 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.04881620 Kurdish
0.04893261 Ezid
0.05112959 Cypriot
0.05195098 Turkish_Trabzon
0.05213886 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.05468326 Iranian_Lor
0.05615702 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.05700434 Turkish_Kayseri
0.05730526 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.05781618 Greek_Trabzon
0.05943576 Turkish_Adana
0.05998424 Palestinian

Distance to: ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR70
0.02694747 Cypriot
0.02717487 Lebanese_Christian
0.02953366 Druze
0.03015660 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.03347804 Lebanese_Druze
0.03433344 Syrian_Jew
0.03465660 Karaite_Egypt
0.03615731 Romaniote_Jew
0.03919535 Samaritan
0.03995380 Lebanese_Muslim
0.04368693 Tunisian_Jew
0.04575211 Sephardic_Jew
0.04618859 Libyan_Jew
0.04639861 Italian_Jew
0.04953791 Iraqi_Jew
0.05004420 Greek_Kos
0.05231762 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.05522466 Moroccan_Jew
0.05554653 Syrian
0.05590485 Greek_Crete
0.05878697 Italian_Calabria
0.05939909 Iranian_Jew
0.05987423 Ashkenazi_Jew
0.06002424 Georgian_Jew
0.06051236 Palestinian

Distance to: ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR73
0.03195050 Romaniote_Jew
0.03518970 Cypriot
0.03742990 Italian_Jew
0.03801926 Syrian_Jew
0.03941369 Sephardic_Jew
0.04043188 Druze
0.04087811 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.04095433 Greek_Kos
0.04201141 Libyan_Jew
0.04252867 Lebanese_Christian
0.04260182 Tunisian_Jew
0.04261650 Moroccan_Jew
0.04355675 Lebanese_Druze
0.04458444 Italian_Calabria
0.04709234 Italian_Piedmont_o
0.04730027 Karaite_Egypt
0.04734135 Lebanese_Muslim
0.04936205 Ashkenazi_Jew
0.04954555 Maltese
0.04990307 Greek_Crete
0.05047788 Italian_Campania
0.05299720 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.05577542 Italian_Basilica
0.05652347 Italian_South
0.05781706 Sicilian_East

Leto
11-12-2019, 01:48 PM
it seems both Iranic and Balto-Slavic

maybe somebody at anthrogenica did a deepeer prediction, that would be helpful
Slavs are almost exclusively Z282, not Z93. Probably Arhat would know.

vbnetkhio
11-12-2019, 01:57 PM
Slavs are almost exclusively Z282, not Z93. Probably Arhat would know.

yes, z93 is the "indo-aryan" branch. but this specific subclade (R-F1345) also has a Balto-Slavic subclade.

Adamastor
11-12-2019, 02:01 PM
One thing is certain: living in the Empire was probably much more exciting than living in the Republic. More things to see, more people to know, all kinds of weird cults/religions, bloody rituals etc. Very interesting period.

Imagine crossing with Gnostics in Egypt and one month later talking with Delphic priests in Greece or Celtic Druids in France. Way more interesting than the Republican society.

Karol Klačansky
11-12-2019, 02:36 PM
One thing is certain: living in the Empire was probably much more exciting than living in the Republic. More things to see, more people to know, all kinds of weird cults/religions, bloody rituals etc. Very interesting period.

Imagine crossing with Gnostics in Egypt and one month later talking with Delphic priests in Greece or Celtic Druids in France. Way more interesting than the Republican society.You couldve already done that during the late roman republic the empire already encompassed the populations you mentioned, if you mean it would've been more interesting to live in Rome during imperial times than yea maybe. Rome probably was interesting through for much of its existence. Imperial Rome mustve had a NYC feel while republic Rome was culturally more Italic. It seems all Italians are extremely Roman in ancestry though depending on what we define as Roman but northern Italy remained more Italic. Why was this the case? Central and southern Italy was more integral to the Roman empire and that's why it saw larger east med immigrants?

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Adamastor
11-12-2019, 03:37 PM
It seems all Italians are extremely Roman in ancestry though depending on what we define as Roman but northern Italy remained more Italic. Why was this the case? Central and southern Italy was more integral to the Roman empire and that's why it saw larger east med immigrants?

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Romans started to absorb east-med populations like Greeks and Anatolians even before the Punic Wars. After the Punic Wars populations like Levantines and North Africans started to be absorbed and later in the Empire they absorbed Celtic and Germanic peoples. Persians, Alexandrian Greeks and Romans were the first ''multicultural'' empires.

In a certain sense they are the forefathers of modernity. The difference with modern multiculturalism is that local specificities were respected instead of a single ''mixed'' culture imposed everywhere.

Karol Klačansky
11-12-2019, 03:48 PM
Romans started to absorb east-med populations like Greeks and Anatolians even before the Punic Wars. After the Punic Wars populations like Levantines and North Africans started to be absorbed and later in the Empire they absorbed Celtic and Germanic peoples. Persians, Alexandrian Greeks and Romans were the first ''multicultural'' empires.

In a certain sense they are the forefathers of modernity. The difference with modern multiculturalism is that local specificities were respected instead of a single ''mixed'' culture imposed everywhere.Yes but you didn't really answer my question why did northern Italy remain less influenced by these east med people and I'm not quite sure if agree with your last statment that local cultures were respected instead of an imposed mixed culture.. I mean yea to a certain extent but Roman culture eventually took over and assimilated much of the local populations. Except for certain areas of the empire like in Judeah many people adopted the Roman or Greek culture and just considered themselves Roman.

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Samnium
11-12-2019, 04:10 PM
Yes but you didn't really answer my question why did northern Italy remain less influenced by these east med people and I'm not quite sure if agree with your last statment that local cultures were respected instead of an imposed mixed culture.. I mean yea to a certain extent but Roman culture eventually took over and assimilated much of the local populations. Except for certain areas of the empire like in Judeah many people adopted the Roman or Greek culture and just considered themselves Roman.

Sent from my ANE-LX1 using TapatalkA simple reason : geography. Italy is at the center of the mediterranean sea.

I have to add that I don't believe that all the areas of S.Italy have been affected to the same extent, and there are surely isolate areas like I've stated that retained a much more italic-like profile (even if surely somewhat influenced by the East-med wave).

I copy here the messages that I had sent on Anthrogenica :

S.Italy is clearly an East Med pop. as a whole but I will expect italic influence associated with a strong isolation in somes areas to cause an important West and north shift..

Perhaps the more interesting case is the cosentian one, the south of the province has been a remote place since Antiquity times and was home of lot of Italic tribes, Bruttian were very numerous (dozens of thousands warriors, only warriors). I think it's these cases that a study should go for and sample. While Greeks had certainly easternized the majority of S.Italy, I think that contrary to other countries, Italy has his geography that has certainly "stopped" or minimized the greek influence in some parts. That's why I circled all the very inland areas.

It's true that's ancient but S.Italy is truly unique in Europe also because he has places that are the most isolated that one can get.


I think we have to reason on a sub-region basis , it's impossible to understand an area like Sicily without dividing it in various parts for example, this have been shown with dozens of samples.

I don't say that I've a proof for that although there are either Apulians or Cosentians results with very high Greeks and Balkans (so definitely Northern shifted and less East Med, and end up on Abbruzzo probably), and hints that I've given on the East Med continuum thread. It's just that to understand better this whole region of S.Italy I would like that geneticists would go on tiny villages, isolates places, and differentiating the samples and their localisation as done in this study. Only with that we could possibly understand this diversity ! I expect intra-provincial variations honestly.

This is the problem that I have identified with international studies including samples from S.Italy, averages that mean nothing.

For the greek impact I think that all coastal and metropolitan areas have been affected, the inland areas would be more interesting because some are really remote, remote in a sense that there was a strong endogamy and even if prosperous the village kept "strangers" relatively out.

Of course we would need the ancient counter-part of these modern DNA, and archeological sites aren't a rarity in S.Italy .

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Slavic Italian
11-12-2019, 04:26 PM
It seems that we Palestinians cluster with these following Imperial era Romans:
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR42
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1550
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1547
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR67
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR70
ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR73

Distance to: ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR42
0.02329748 Lebanese_Christian
0.02538328 Samaritan
0.02544114 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.02843713 Lebanese_Druze
0.03014814 Druze
0.03074464 Karaite_Egypt
0.03374425 Lebanese_Muslim
0.04015983 Iraqi_Jew
0.04200302 Cypriot
0.04279190 Syrian_Jew
0.04298080 Palestinian
0.04492420 Syrian
0.04946323 Tunisian_Jew
0.05055548 Libyan_Jew
0.05206490 Romaniote_Jew
0.05260988 Iranian_Jew
0.05865043 Georgian_Jew
0.05938280 BedouinA
0.06007677 Assyrian
0.06072902 Sephardic_Jew
0.06432486 Italian_Jew
0.06482849 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.06563291 Armenian
0.06662020 Moroccan_Jew
0.06971366 Greek_Kos

Distance to: ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1550
0.02256962 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.03335284 Lebanese_Christian
0.03348375 Druze
0.03406180 Lebanese_Druze
0.03719163 Lebanese_Muslim
0.03928213 Syrian_Jew
0.04226554 Cypriot
0.04244863 Karaite_Egypt
0.04439274 Syrian
0.04653759 Palestinian
0.04685551 Libyan_Jew
0.04731266 Romaniote_Jew
0.04814715 Tunisian_Jew
0.04956556 Samaritan
0.05107727 Iraqi_Jew
0.05603552 Moroccan_Jew
0.05607043 Iranian_Jew
0.05614754 Sephardic_Jew
0.05638813 Georgian_Jew
0.05747577 Italian_Jew
0.05966749 Assyrian
0.06107505 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.06171828 Greek_Kos
0.06362556 BedouinA
0.06652404 Armenian

Distance to: ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR1547
0.02958786 Lebanese_Christian
0.03091293 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.03421386 Samaritan
0.03523272 Lebanese_Druze
0.03709840 Druze
0.03892316 Karaite_Egypt
0.04007189 Cypriot
0.04056934 Lebanese_Muslim
0.04372457 Syrian_Jew
0.04760754 Iraqi_Jew
0.04763424 Tunisian_Jew
0.05035731 Romaniote_Jew
0.05059365 Libyan_Jew
0.05262616 Syrian
0.05339362 Palestinian
0.05872392 Sephardic_Jew
0.05877216 Iranian_Jew
0.06248532 Italian_Jew
0.06302663 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.06359961 Georgian_Jew
0.06475447 Assyrian
0.06503706 Moroccan_Jew
0.06713376 BedouinA
0.06732013 Armenian
0.06736647 Greek_Kos

Distance to: ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR67
0.02938263 Georgian_Jew
0.02983696 Assyrian
0.03073832 Iranian_Jew
0.03329214 Lebanese_Muslim
0.03347328 Syrian
0.03393933 Lebanese_Druze
0.03444633 Druze
0.03452415 Iraqi_Jew
0.04001375 Armenian
0.04248991 Karaite_Egypt
0.04500521 Lebanese_Christian
0.04543808 Syrian_Jew
0.04678312 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.04881620 Kurdish
0.04893261 Ezid
0.05112959 Cypriot
0.05195098 Turkish_Trabzon
0.05213886 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.05468326 Iranian_Lor
0.05615702 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.05700434 Turkish_Kayseri
0.05730526 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.05781618 Greek_Trabzon
0.05943576 Turkish_Adana
0.05998424 Palestinian

Distance to: ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR70
0.02694747 Cypriot
0.02717487 Lebanese_Christian
0.02953366 Druze
0.03015660 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.03347804 Lebanese_Druze
0.03433344 Syrian_Jew
0.03465660 Karaite_Egypt
0.03615731 Romaniote_Jew
0.03919535 Samaritan
0.03995380 Lebanese_Muslim
0.04368693 Tunisian_Jew
0.04575211 Sephardic_Jew
0.04618859 Libyan_Jew
0.04639861 Italian_Jew
0.04953791 Iraqi_Jew
0.05004420 Greek_Kos
0.05231762 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.05522466 Moroccan_Jew
0.05554653 Syrian
0.05590485 Greek_Crete
0.05878697 Italian_Calabria
0.05939909 Iranian_Jew
0.05987423 Ashkenazi_Jew
0.06002424 Georgian_Jew
0.06051236 Palestinian

Distance to: ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR73
0.03195050 Romaniote_Jew
0.03518970 Cypriot
0.03742990 Italian_Jew
0.03801926 Syrian_Jew
0.03941369 Sephardic_Jew
0.04043188 Druze
0.04087811 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.04095433 Greek_Kos
0.04201141 Libyan_Jew
0.04252867 Lebanese_Christian
0.04260182 Tunisian_Jew
0.04261650 Moroccan_Jew
0.04355675 Lebanese_Druze
0.04458444 Italian_Calabria
0.04709234 Italian_Piedmont_o
0.04730027 Karaite_Egypt
0.04734135 Lebanese_Muslim
0.04936205 Ashkenazi_Jew
0.04954555 Maltese
0.04990307 Greek_Crete
0.05047788 Italian_Campania
0.05299720 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.05577542 Italian_Basilica
0.05652347 Italian_South
0.05781706 Sicilian_East

What is the makeup of ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1220?

Lucas
11-12-2019, 04:40 PM
i said it, x,y, and mt aren't included, but here chromosomes 21 and 22 are also missing

In original PLINK file which I use for convertion it was indeed 20 chromo only. Don't know why. I converted from Eigen files.
But vcf after conversion had 13 when I checked now.
I wasn't aware of that when I uploaded those files... Something wrong with those files.

Forget it.

Slavic Italian
11-12-2019, 04:45 PM
My results.

Your ancient samples results:

Distance to: Slavic_Italian_scaled
0.02403473 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL63
0.03214983 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1220
0.03217770 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I4888
0.03287214 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL57
0.03299341 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1219
0.03490635 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ45
0.03601568 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR61
0.03606533 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12031
0.03633121 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ38
0.03661358 ITA_Collegno_MA:CL47
0.03667006 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA:I3529
0.03715423 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ18
0.03726481 BGR_EBA:I2165
0.03852964 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR106
0.03868766 Levant_LBN_MA_Euro:SI-39
0.03891324 ITA_Rome_MA:RMPR1288
0.03893256 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I4891
0.03960375 ITA_Rome_Late_Antiquity:RMPR105
0.03968230 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1221
0.03969748 HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ23
0.03978516 ITA_Rome_Renaissance:RMPR1224
0.03993406 DEU_MA_ACD:STR_228
0.04034352 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I4885
0.04112139 Bell_Beaker_Bavaria:I5529
0.04115437 Bell_Beaker_CZE:I4896

ancient averaged results:

Distance to: Slavic_Italian_scaled
0.02836159 ITA_Collegno_MA
0.03081444 HUN_MA_Szolad
0.03087088 French_East
0.03176028 Austrian
0.03267345 Swiss_German
0.03373896 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03405902 Belgian
0.03552661 Hungarian
0.03573095 German
0.03578395 Croatian
0.03602016 Levant_LBN_MA_Euro
0.03623143 French
0.03700522 DEU_MA_ACD
0.03773557 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
0.03789719 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.03796022 Welsh_o
0.03804282 Scythian_HUN
0.03812687 Slovenian
0.03878373 Serbian
0.03963038 Romanian
0.03993422 Montenegrin
0.04025609 Bosnian
0.04035151 French_Provence
0.04112913 German_East
0.04123742 Italian_Northeast

Enr1989
11-12-2019, 05:59 PM
This is a very long thread to read, to make a sunt what emerged by this research is that Italic people from IA clusted closer to what is SW France today, Celtic stock, the situation changed when Rome become the center of a multicultural empire, which many inhabitants were levantie east Asians like and Middle Easteners.
We also see an other turn in the MIddle Age were the samples tested are more like nowadays Northern Italians, this can be due to barbaric invasions bringing Germanic genes or genetically preserved rural people moving to the city.
Did I get right?

Samnium
11-12-2019, 06:05 PM
This is a very long thread to read, to make a sunt what emerged by this research is that Italic people from IA clusted closer to what is SW France today, Celtic stock, the situation changed when Rome become the center of a multicultural empire, which many inhabitants were levantie east Asians like and Middle Easteners.

Nope Italic people cluster in between Iberians and N.Italians with some samples being well in the N.Italian cluster like Villanovian samples.

The SW samples was an outlier, he has a too elevated Steppe compared to the others.

There were Middle-Easterners and NA's immigrants BUT what easternized Roman empire is the greek and hellenics people, composed of hellenized anatolians and aegeans islanders likely, maybe some mainland, keep in mind that mainland greeks were mainly myceneans before the slavicization.


We also see an other turn in the MIddle Age were the samples tested are more like nowadays Northern Italians, this can be due to barbaric invasions bringing Germanic genes or genetically preserved rural people moving to the city.
Did I get right?


Yes, it's also possible that the outliers are the product of a mixture between a "barbarian" (a gaul, a german or whatever) and a local roman parent.

The rural theory is definitely not disproven because they don't tested some remote areas BUT this study showed that the roman countryside of Lazio was somewhat affected by that, with results that don't differ from urban samples.

Enr1989
11-12-2019, 06:16 PM
Nope Italic people cluster in between Iberians and N.Italians with some samples being well in the N.Italian cluster like Villanovian samples.

The SW samples was an outlier, he has a too elevated Steppe compared to the others.

There were Middle-Easterners and NA's immigrants BUT what easternized Roman empire is the greek and hellenics people, composed of hellenized anatolians and aegeans islanders likely, maybe some mainland, keep in mind that mainland greeks were mainly myceneans before the slavicization.




Yes, it's also possible that the outliers are the product of a mixture between a "barbarian" (a gaul, a german or whatever) and a local roman parent.

The rural theory is definitely not disproven because they don't tested some remote areas BUT this study showed that the roman countryside of Lazio was somewhat affected by that, with results that don't differ from urban samples.


Thanks,
personally I think that barbaric invasions brought some genes but not enough to change dramatically the situation, so can be that imperial samples tested are not rappresentative of the whole peninsula situation were most of the inhabitants were still the IA Italics.

Slavic Italian
11-12-2019, 06:22 PM
You shouldn't use Sardinia for this model it's definitely not adapted, but if you see the PCA there are quite a few samples amongst italics and etruscans who are not here that are drifiting toward Sardinia.

You should remind that Aosta Valley was a roman "stronghold" and was romanized since earlier times. Aosta is maybe the best example of that roman presence.

Switzerland, as well as other parts of France might having a bit of Roman Imperial.

By the way my model get extremely low distances with the targets and make sense historically.

I get Aosta on K36 and this calc.

ancient averaged results:

Distance to: Slavic_Italian_scaled
0.02836159 ITA_Collegno_MA
0.03081444 HUN_MA_Szolad
0.03087088 French_East
0.03176028 Austrian
0.03267345 Swiss_German
0.03373896 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03405902 Belgian
0.03552661 Hungarian
0.03573095 German
0.03578395 Croatian
0.03602016 Levant_LBN_MA_Euro
0.03623143 French
0.03700522 DEU_MA_ACD
0.03773557 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
0.03789719 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.03796022 Welsh_o
0.03804282 Scythian_HUN
0.03812687 Slovenian
0.03878373 Serbian
0.03963038 Romanian
0.03993422 Montenegrin
0.04025609 Bosnian
0.04035151 French_Provence
0.04112913 German_East
0.04123742 Italian_Northeast

Samnium
11-12-2019, 06:27 PM
I get Aosta on K36 and this calc.

ancient averaged results:

Distance to: Slavic_Italian_scaled
0.02836159 ITA_Collegno_MA
0.03081444 HUN_MA_Szolad
0.03087088 French_East
0.03176028 Austrian
0.03267345 Swiss_German
0.03373896 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.03405902 Belgian
0.03552661 Hungarian
0.03573095 German
0.03578395 Croatian
0.03602016 Levant_LBN_MA_Euro
0.03623143 French
0.03700522 DEU_MA_ACD
0.03773557 Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
0.03789719 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.03796022 Welsh_o
0.03804282 Scythian_HUN
0.03812687 Slovenian
0.03878373 Serbian
0.03963038 Romanian
0.03993422 Montenegrin
0.04025609 Bosnian
0.04035151 French_Provence
0.04112913 German_East
0.04123742 Italian_Northeast

Well they are very close to E.French and Austrian but the "Imperial Roman" component has a sense historically, even though in other cases it's purely superficial and it's only a proxy for an "East-Med admixture" like in some Brittons (Britanny hasn't any very important roman settlement).

kefalonitis
11-12-2019, 07:53 PM
keep in mind that mainland greeks were mainly myceneans before the slavicization.


it seems you are an expert in greek genetics :crazy:

Leto
11-12-2019, 08:00 PM
Nope Italic people cluster in between Iberians and N.Italians with some samples being well in the N.Italian cluster like Villanovian samples.

The SW samples was an outlier, he has a too elevated Steppe compared to the others.

There were Middle-Easterners and NA's immigrants BUT what easternized Roman empire is the greek and hellenics people, composed of hellenized anatolians and aegeans islanders likely, maybe some mainland, keep in mind that mainland greeks were mainly myceneans before the slavicization.

But in the Middle Ages there were major changes as well, weren't there? Byzantine Sicily/South Italy, then Muslim, then Norman... Probably the Italian population didn't stabilize until after 1000 AD or so.

Dick
11-12-2019, 08:08 PM
R110; 400-600 AD; Crypta Balbi; Late Antiquity; I1-Z63>BY151>FGC81364>S2078>S2077>Y2245>Y7234

Looks like one of the Lombards(or maybe a Gepid/Goth that joined them) is Z63. The Italian in the tree found his ancestor

https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-Y7234/

MinervaItalica
11-12-2019, 08:10 PM
But in the Middle Ages there were major changes as well, weren't there? Byzantine Sicily/South Italy, then Muslim, then Norman... Probably the Italian population didn't stabilize until after 1000 AD or so.

People tend to overestimate these foreigner immigration to Italy. Only rulers and elites were actually foreigners and perhaps some common workers who immigrated with them.

Samnium
11-12-2019, 08:12 PM
But in the Middle Ages there were major changes as well, weren't there? Byzantine Sicily/South Italy, then Muslim, then Norman... Probably the Italian population didn't stabilize until after 1000 AD or so.

Yes of course that reinforced the "easternisation", Byzantine imperium brought tons of W.Asians in Sicily, parts of Apulia and Calabria. There were also Levantines that fled the Middle-East. However the major drift of this paper is an "hellenic" drift brought by hellenic people, lazians never returned to their "Iron Age" genetics.

Leto
11-12-2019, 08:15 PM
People tend to overestimate these foreigner immigration to Italy. Only rulers and elites were actually foreigners and perhaps some common workers who immigrated with them.
Even in Sicily? How else would you explain their very pronounced Southernness? Many are straight up "Ashkenazish" with some of the lowest Steppe levels in Europe.

Leto
11-12-2019, 08:16 PM
Yes of course that reinforced the "easternisation", Byzantine imperium brought tons of W.Asians in Sicily, parts of Apulia and Calabria. There were also Levantines that fled the Middle-East. However the major drift of this paper is an "hellenic" drift brought by hellenic people, lazians never returned to their "Iron Age" genetics.
So Greeks made Italy swarthier? Lel xD

Samnium
11-12-2019, 08:19 PM
it seems you are an expert in greek genetics :crazy:

It's a well known fact that Greeks have significant mycenean ancestry come on... :picard2:

+ I'm not an expert on greek genetic

Samnium
11-12-2019, 08:20 PM
So Greeks made Italy swarthier? Lel xD

2 years I would have laughed to that but yes.

Ancient Greeks didn't have "Slavic" admixture and I can say that those "greeks" who settled in S.Italy were likely more hellenized Anatolians, Islanders... than anything.

Adamastor
11-12-2019, 08:21 PM
It's a well known fact that Greeks have significant mycenean ancestry come on... :picard2:

+ I'm not an expert on greek genetic

The cope among Greeks here is immense. It's more than clear now that Sikeliot's theories of slavicization were true.

MinervaItalica
11-12-2019, 08:22 PM
Even in Sicily? How else would you explain their very pronounced Southernness? Many are straight up "Ashkenazish" with some of the lowest Steppe levels in Europe.

The only notable (foreigner) immigration that had a notably impact on (Southern) Italians locals is the Greek one during Magna Graecia. Successive foreigners like Germanics and Arabs are irrelevant. They only mixed with elites and some commoners. Plus Arabs have been all expelled when Sicily was conquered by Normans, some converted to Christianity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_settlement_of_Lucera

Samnium
11-12-2019, 08:30 PM
The only notable (foreigner) immigration that had a notably impact on (Southern) Italians locals is the Greek one during Magna Graecia. Successive foreigners like Germanics and Arabs are irrelevant. They only mixed with elites and some commoners. Plus Arabs have been all expelled when Sicily was conquered by Normans, some converted to Christianity.

True and not true because Arab era had an impact on sicilian genetics, low "Egyptian" and "Arabian" traces show that on 23andme, but honestly I think that it there was any direct "Levantine" input truly important in Sicily it was Phoenicians.

In Sicily there was a very important N.Italian repopulation though aside with some norman impact in specific cities.

However many anthrotards here, like in the other thread will jump on my message to use him against sicilians, clearly you can't talk about that here because trolls will re-use everything you have said.

kefalonitis
11-12-2019, 08:36 PM
It's a well known fact that Greeks have significant mycenean ancestry come on... :picard2:

+ I'm not an expert on greek genetic

There is an important study about the greek genetics,go read it if you care so much.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ejhg201718
If you are not an expert STOP breaking our balls with your nonsense.Understand?
PS.And remove the ''Hellenic'' from your profile.

Samnium
11-12-2019, 08:37 PM
There is an important study about the greek genetics,go read it if you care so much.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ejhg201718
If you are not an expert STOP breaking our balls with your nonsense.Understand?
PS.And take out the ''Hellenic'' from your profile.

I have ancestry from Apulia who's an ancient Messapian/Iapigi settlement (Illyrian people) and that was connected since remote times to Greece (and even modern times). The rest being from inland Cosenza, all provinces/regions that had contact with greeks. I don't know what would be wrong to put Hellenic in my profile, unless you're denying the straight relationship between these parts of the East-Med region.

A paper that prove my point (I had already seen it):

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-01802-4

Population expansions during the Middle Ages, for instance those related to the Slavic migrations, could have affected Albania and Continental Greece at least indirectly as a result of subsequent population contacts. We may therefore hypothesize that present-day mainland Greek and Southern Balkan populations detached from a genetic background originally shared with the ‘Mediterranean genetic continuum’ (i.e. Southern Italy and the Mediterranean Greek-islands) after these recent events which interested the Balkan Peninsula in historical times.

kefalonitis
11-12-2019, 08:58 PM
I have ancestry from Apulia who's an ancient Messapian/Iapigi settlement (Illyrian people) and that was connected since remote times to Greece (and even modern times). The rest being from inland Cosenza, all provinces/regions that had contact with greeks. I don't know what would be wrong to put Hellenic in my profile, unless you're denying the straight relationship between these parts of the East-Med region.

A paper that prove my point (I had already seen it):

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-01802-4

Population expansions during the Middle Ages, for instance those related to the Slavic migrations, could have affected Albania and Continental Greece at least indirectly as a result of subsequent population contacts. We may therefore hypothesize that present-day mainland Greek and Southern Balkan populations detached from a genetic background originally shared with the ‘Mediterranean genetic continuum’ (i.e. Southern Italy and the Mediterranean Greek-islands) after these recent events which interested the Balkan Peninsula in historical times.

Isolated enclaves that payed tribute to Constantinople cannot lead to slavicization of a whole population you fucking shemale:picard1:
Of course i'm not going to discuss it with a frenchman who lacks knowledge on basics.It's meaningless.
I'm asking only one thing: stop breaking our balls
PS.Remove it

dududud
11-12-2019, 09:03 PM
Indeed, the HGDP ones though should be pretty close to those from the interior. In another study I recall those from Arzana to be even more isolated. Would be nice to have some more Sardinians in G25.

Would be interesting.

Samnium
11-12-2019, 09:06 PM
Isolated enclaves that payed tribute to Constantinople cannot lead to slavicization of a whole population you fucking shemale

Well you have maybe missed the last 15 years (or even more) of Greek genetics. I don't say that slavicization is equal in all greeks, there are areas that haven't been affected at "all" like southern Peloponnesus. Anyway I don't think that there's something "wrong" to that, it happened, as Central Euros pulled Romans much more northern or Imperial romans drifted all Italy towards East Med populations.


Of course i'm not going to discuss it with a frenchman who lacks knowledge on basics.It's meaningless.

No it's you that lacks basic knowledge, what I've said is a well known fact.


PS.Remove it

I will not remove part of my ancestry.

kefalonitis
11-12-2019, 09:31 PM
Peloponesians were the second most stereotyped greek group as slavic.


Using a novel method of quantitative analysis of ADMIXTURE output we find that the Slavic ancestry of
Peloponnesean subpopulations ranges from 0.2 to 14.4%
https://www.nature.com/articles/ejhg201718


Are those people ''slavicized''?


there are areas that haven't been affected at "all" like southern Peloponnesus.
:bowlol:
Western side of Taygetus,where the slavs dwelled,is in Southern Peloponese.
Look it's obvious you don't have a clue.
Please don't continue with your offtopic nonsense and i'm not interested discussing further with you.


I will not remove part of my ancestry.

https://localtvwqad.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/thinkstockphotos-533887925.jpg?quality=85&strip=all&w=400&h=225&crop=1

savvas
11-12-2019, 09:57 PM
For Roman larping purposes...

ITA_Proto-Villanovan:RMPR1:

https://i.imgur.com/ZSYNGAX.png

ITA_Villanovan:RMPR1015:

https://i.imgur.com/kdckVUo.png

ITA_Etruscan:RMPR473:

https://i.imgur.com/zAQiqSc.png

ITA_Etruscan:RMPR474b:

https://i.imgur.com/J3Q2JlA.png

ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA:RMPR435b:

https://i.imgur.com/tRUvRL8.png

ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA:RMPR1021:

https://i.imgur.com/uaGxKrJ.png

ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA:RMPR851:

https://i.imgur.com/GiYtR62.png

ITA_Rome_Latini_IA:RMPR1016:

https://i.imgur.com/GVwE44C.png

Samnium
11-12-2019, 10:13 PM
Peloponesians were the second most stereotyped greek group as slavic.

:picard1: I just said that SOUTHERN peloponessians received the least SLAVIC admixture contrary to Northern regions of Greece like Epirus for example.


Are those people ''slavicized''?

Slavicized means that there was a noticeable slavic input during Medieval Times, nothing more. It doesn't mean that they became Polish or Ukrainians. :picard1:


Western side of Taygetus,where the slavs dwelled,is in Southern Peloponese.

Of course, that's why Southern peloponesians are in between other mainlanders and southern italians in PCA plots...


Look it's obvious you don't have a clue.

You obviously don't read the paper that I've sent to you. You're only trying to fit your agenda.



https://localtvwqad.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/thinkstockphotos-533887925.jpg?quality=85&strip=all&w=400&h=225&crop=1

Remember that :

https://www.repstatic.it/content/nazionale/img/2018/10/26/025618613-25d70a21-582d-4ca0-ac88-3d1bd7be21b9.jpg

Actually I can tell you an anecdote, several of my italian relatives bear greek names, like my grandmother (Desdemona), or one of my cousins (Telemaco) :)

Dna8
11-12-2019, 10:18 PM
Hi,

Now that some time has passed for the study to be processed, how would you describe its findings?

Dorian
11-12-2019, 10:34 PM
Isolated enclaves that payed tribute to Constantinople cannot lead to slavicization of a whole population you fucking shemale:picard1:
Of course i'm not going to discuss it with a frenchman who lacks knowledge on basics.It's meaningless.
I'm asking only one thing: stop breaking our balls
PS.Remove it

Chill man ,he's not malicious against us..but the roots of these "theories" go deep..

Calpurnius
11-12-2019, 10:50 PM
So I've been working on a new admixture tool like nMonte which essentially produces similar results but much faster, maybe I'll release it later on if I see it working well, this allows me to seek parsimonious models automatically over a space of many possible sources, which using nMonte or Vahaduo would be too slow, given that the amount of possible subsets of k different elements of a set with n elements grows exponentially. This I think is useful to avoid the overfitting that happens when using nMonte or Vahaduo putting many sources all at once. In that case the algorithm having so many possibilities I think can get quite "imaginative" so to speak in order to get as small as possible error.
In any case, I was trying something for Bergamo, with the following set of possible sources: Anatolia_IA, GRC_Mycenaean, ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA, ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA, ITA_Etruscan, ITA_Grotta_Continenza_CA, ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA, ITA_Proto-Villanovan, ITA_Rome_Imperial, ITA_Rome_Latini_IA, ITA_Villanovan, Levant_LBN_Roman, SWE_IA, SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna, Celt_I8206, Lombard_CL146.
The last two are samples with ID which are respectively a (likely?) Celtic proxy from Empuries in Roman era Spain and a Lombard from Collegno which seems fairly representative.

Here are the results for 3, 4 and 5 sources:


X
Distance
ITA_Etruscan
ITA_Rome_Imperial
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna


Italian_Bergamo
0.01186796
68.37509
18.03989
13.58502




X
Distance
ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
ITA_Etruscan
ITA_Rome_Imperial
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna


Italian_Bergamo
0.01024404
22.75319
42.76607
19.61784
14.8629




X
Distance
ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
ITA_Etruscan
ITA_Rome_Imperial
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna


Italian_Bergamo
0.009178887
21.74669
16.1414
23.88893
22.6091
15.61389


If you have any ideas so that I may check how good the algorithm is, feel free to propose something.

XenophobicPrussian
11-12-2019, 10:52 PM
People tend to overestimate these foreigner immigration to Italy. Only rulers and elites were actually foreigners and perhaps some common workers who immigrated with them.
lol 41 of 48 Imperial Roman samples are over 50% recent Middle-Eastern(Latins and Etruscans 0% except for 2 outliers), 66% Middle-Eastern overall and you have the audacity to post this on a thread where the paper is linked.

XenophobicPrussian
11-12-2019, 11:12 PM
Hi,

Now that some time has passed for the study to be processed, how would you describe its findings?
- Significant Middle-Eastern(mainly Anatolian, but from all regions of the Middle-East) in all modern Italians-post Imperial era, as well as Germanic/Gaulish and Greek.
- Latins came from a later wave of steppe migration from central Europe, Etruscans mainly derived from proto-Villanovan which shows Balkan origins and older Bell Beaker steppe admixture.
- Republic Romans clustered between North Italians and Iberians, probably around the Italy Piedmont/Turin average(although that does not mean Piedmontese are pure Roman remnants), Etruscans closer to N. Italians, Latins and other tribes closer to Iberians.
- Italian WHGs are the purest and most outlying WHGs, meaning Italy was an important refuge in the Late Glacial Maximum and likely where WHGs had the highest population, a population bottleneck and spread out to the rest of Europe from. Now all other WHGs now show minor ANE and Magdelanian admixture when modeled with Italian WHGs as a proxy for WHG.
- Likely a lot of inter Carolingian/Holy Roman Empire migration in the Middle-Ages/Renaissance era, atleast in Rome proper, but can't be validated for certain, the French-like Renaissance Romans might be something else, who knows.

Token
11-12-2019, 11:18 PM
This one for Venetians seems to be close to reality, since Este culture derives from Proto-Villanova.

Target,Distance,CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany,ITA_Proto-Villanovan,England_Saxon,ITA_Rome_Imperial
Italian_Veneto,0.01787335,34.8,28.0,8.0,29.2
Average,0.01787335,34.8,28.0,8.0,29.2

Karol Klačansky
11-12-2019, 11:19 PM
2 years I would have laughed to that but yes.

Ancient Greeks didn't have "Slavic" admixture and I can say that those "greeks" who settled in S.Italy were likely more hellenized Anatolians, Islanders... than anything.I agree with you because it's what the Romans themselves told us. Even in the history Channel link I posted here(if anyone cared to read it) they clearly said that the Romans complained how Greek Rome had become. When we look at the genetics they must have been Anatolia and Aegean type Greeks that changed the genetic landscape, that plus significant Jewish communities.

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Token
11-12-2019, 11:36 PM
I agree with you because it's what the Romans themselves told us. Even in the history Channel link I posted here(if anyone cared to read it) they clearly said that the Romans complained how Greek Rome had become. When we look at the genetics they must have been Anatolia and Aegean type Greeks that changed the genetic landscape, that plus significant Jewish communities.

Sent from my ANE-LX1 using Tapatalk

Before Slavs, probably all Greeks were Aegean-like.

Dna8
11-12-2019, 11:45 PM
- Significant Middle-Eastern(mainly Anatolian, but from all regions of the Middle-East) in all modern Italians-post Imperial era, as well as Germanic/Gaulish and Greek.
- Latins came from a later wave of steppe migration from central Europe, Etruscans mainly derived from proto-Villanovan which shows Balkan origins and older Bell Beaker steppe admixture.
- Republic Romans clustered between North Italians and Iberians, probably around the Italy Piedmont/Turin average(although that does not mean Piedmontese are pure Roman remnants), Etruscans closer to N. Italians, Latins and other tribes closer to Iberians.
- Italian WHGs are the purest and most outlying WHGs, meaning Italy was an important refuge in the Late Glacial Maximum and likely where WHGs had the highest population, a population bottleneck and spread out to the rest of Europe from. Now all other WHGs now show minor ANE and Magdelanian admixture when modeled with Italian WHGs as a proxy for WHG.
- Likely a lot of inter Carolingian/Holy Roman Empire migration in the Middle-Ages/Renaissance era, atleast in Rome proper, but can't be validated for certain, the French-like Renaissance Romans might be something else, who knows.

Thank you for taking the time to reply.

Much appreciated.

XenophobicPrussian
11-13-2019, 12:10 AM
This one for Venetians seems to be close to reality, since Este culture derives from Proto-Villanova.

Target,Distance,CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany,ITA_Proto-Villanovan,England_Saxon,ITA_Rome_Imperial
Italian_Veneto,0.01787335,34.8,28.0,8.0,29.2
Average,0.01787335,34.8,28.0,8.0,29.2
Shouldn't be using Saxon, they're mixed with native Britons. 8% for Veneto is way too low, especially if Venetians have that much Rome_Imperial.

I like this model:


Italian_Veneto
Distance: 0.9353% / 0.00935326
26.4 DEU_MA
20.2 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
17.8 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
14.2 ITA_Etruscan
7.8 CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
6.4 DEU_Lech_MBA
5.2 ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
2.0 Levant_JOR_EBA

Good to use Lech_MBA and Lech_EBA for Celts as well.

Similar to using Norwegian:


Italian_Veneto
Distance: 0.7659% / 0.00765917
26.4 Norwegian
20.8 ITA_Etruscan
19.2 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
17.0 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
7.6 CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
5.4 DEU_Lech_MBA
2.6 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
0.6 IRN_Hajji_Firuz_IA
0.4 GRC_Mycenaean


or with just Imperial Romans instead of various Middle-Eastern:


Target: Italian_Veneto
Distance: 0.8513% / 0.00851350
25.8 Norwegian
23.8 ITA_Rome_Imperial
23.4 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
10.2 ITA_Etruscan
6.4 GRC_Mycenaean
6.2 DEU_Lech_MBA
4.2 CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany

XenophobicPrussian
11-13-2019, 12:15 AM
So I've been working on a new admixture tool like nMonte which essentially produces similar results but much faster, maybe I'll release it later on if I see it working well, this allows me to seek parsimonious models automatically over a space of many possible sources, which using nMonte or Vahaduo would be too slow, given that the amount of possible subsets of k different elements of a set with n elements grows exponentially. This I think is useful to avoid the overfitting that happens when using nMonte or Vahaduo putting many sources all at once. In that case the algorithm having so many possibilities I think can get quite "imaginative" so to speak in order to get as small as possible error.
In any case, I was trying something for Bergamo, with the following set of possible sources: Anatolia_IA, GRC_Mycenaean, ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA, ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA, ITA_Etruscan, ITA_Grotta_Continenza_CA, ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA, ITA_Proto-Villanovan, ITA_Rome_Imperial, ITA_Rome_Latini_IA, ITA_Villanovan, Levant_LBN_Roman, SWE_IA, SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna, Celt_I8206, Lombard_CL146.
The last two are samples with ID which are respectively a (likely?) Celtic proxy from Empuries in Roman era Spain and a Lombard from Collegno which seems fairly representative.

Here are the results for 3, 4 and 5 sources:


X
Distance
ITA_Etruscan
ITA_Rome_Imperial
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna


Italian_Bergamo
0.01186796
68.37509
18.03989
13.58502




X
Distance
ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
ITA_Etruscan
ITA_Rome_Imperial
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna


Italian_Bergamo
0.01024404
22.75319
42.76607
19.61784
14.8629




X
Distance
ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
ITA_Etruscan
ITA_Rome_Imperial
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna


Italian_Bergamo
0.009178887
21.74669
16.1414
23.88893
22.6091
15.61389


If you have any ideas so that I may check how good the algorithm is, feel free to propose something.
Use DEU_MA or Norwegian, 15 is too low for Bergamo most likely. Viking Age Sigtuna average has Balt/Finn/Slav/Briton outliers.

Also, overfitting is a myth and something completely made up by Davidski. Overfitting is a -good- thing.

Calpurnius
11-13-2019, 12:50 AM
Use DEU_MA or Norwegian, 15 is too low for Bergamo most likely. Viking Age Sigtuna average has Balt/Finn/Slav/Briton outliers.

Also, overfitting is a myth and something completely made up by Davidski. Overfitting is a -good- thing.
DEU_MA climbs somewhat higher and gets around ~20%, though I preferred to choose one of the northwest European-like Lombard samples from collegno.

I wouldn't say overfitting is a myth, especially if you are dealing with many closely related sources. If the algorithm has many sources chosen randomly during each cycle, it will pretty much pick up whatever it takes to minimize the distance regardless of how realistic the model is. The monte carlo algorithm can't make miracles with just 25 dimensional data when attempting to resolve exactly the precise source within European ones, the results should be taken with a grain of salt.

MinervaItalica
11-13-2019, 01:38 AM
In Sicily there was a very important N.Italian repopulation though aside with some norman impact in specific cities.


Agree


The House of Hohenstaufen and their successors (Capetian House of Anjou and Aragonese House of Barcelona) gradually "Latinized" Sicily over the course of two centuries, and this social process laid the groundwork for the introduction of Latin (as opposed to Byzantine) Catholicism. The process of Latinization was fostered largely by the Roman Church and its liturgy. The annihilation of Islam in Sicily was completed by the late 1240s, when the final deportations to Lucera took place.[34] By the time of the Sicilian Vespers in 1282 there were no Muslims in Sicily and the society was completely Latinized.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emirate_of_Sicily#Aftermath


lol 41 of 48 Imperial Roman samples are over 50% recent Middle-Eastern(Latins and Etruscans 0% except for 2 outliers), 66% Middle-Eastern overall and you have the audacity to post this on a thread where the paper is linked.

I was talking about Middle Ages immigration to Italy of Germanics, Byzantine and Arabs not the mutt that was Imperial Rome.

Imperial Rome was like nowadays US.

In any case there are new studies almost every year and this one will be debunked like previous ones. Just wait and you'll see.

And...


Conversely, the foreign population of Rome was very small. Scientific evidence has shown that non-locals were in the minority, and most came from other parts of Italy or nearby provinces in Southern/Central Europe. Biochemical analysis of 166 skeletons from three non-elite imperial-era cemeteries in the vicinity of Rome revealed that only 1 individual definitely came from outside of Europe (North Africa), and another 2 possibly did, but results are inconclusive.[31][32] Other than that, there was no apparent net inter-regional migration in the imperial period, except perhaps a small continuous resettlement of Easterners in the West.[33]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_Roman_Empire#Migration

J. Ketch
11-13-2019, 05:46 AM
Target: Sicilian_West
Distance: 1.0170% / 0.01016960
Aggregated
20.4 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1
19.2 DEU_MA
15.4 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
14.8 ITA_Etruscan
9.8 ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
6.6 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
4.8 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
3.4 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2
2.8 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
1.6 Anatolia_IA
1.0 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
0.2 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o

Target: Sicilian_East
Distance: 0.7614% / 0.00761360
Aggregated
23.0 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
17.2 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1
16.2 DEU_MA
15.2 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
13.2 ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
9.4 Levant_Canaanite_MBA
4.2 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
1.2 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
0.2 GRC_Mycenaean
0.2 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA

Target: Italian_Veneto
Distance: 0.8889% / 0.00888867
Aggregated
26.0 DEU_MA
19.2 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
15.6 ITA_Etruscan
13.2 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
7.8 ITA_Villanovan
6.8 DEU_Lech_EBA
5.2 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
3.4 DEU_Lech_MBA
2.8 ITA_Proto-Villanovan

Target: Italian_Umbria
Distance: 0.7621% / 0.00762093
Aggregated
20.2 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
17.8 DEU_Lech_EBA
16.0 ITA_Etruscan
9.0 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
8.2 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
7.6 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
5.6 DEU_MA
3.8 ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
3.6 ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
3.2 ARM_LBA
3.2 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
1.0 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
0.6 Anatolia_IA
0.2 ITA_Villanovan

Target: Italian_Tuscany
Distance: 0.6005% / 0.00600529
Aggregated
16.4 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
15.6 DEU_Lech_EBA
13.6 ITA_Etruscan
13.6 DEU_MA
10.0 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
9.6 ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
4.8 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
4.8 ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
4.4 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
4.2 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
2.6 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
0.4 DEU_Lech_MBA

Target: Italian_South
Distance: 0.6034% / 0.00603360
Aggregated
37.2 ITA_Etruscan
15.8 ARM_LBA
14.8 Levant_Canaanite_MBA
13.6 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
5.0 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1
4.0 DEU_MA
3.8 ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
2.4 Anatolia_IA
1.4 GRC_Mycenaean
1.2 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
0.6 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
0.2 ITA_Proto-Villanovan

Target: Italian_Piedmont
Distance: 0.5874% / 0.00587406
Aggregated
21.2 DEU_MA
14.6 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
14.4 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
10.6 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
8.0 ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
7.8 DEU_Lech_EBA
7.2 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
7.0 ITA_Etruscan
5.4 GRC_Mycenaean
2.2 DEU_Lech_MBA
1.2 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
0.2 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
0.2 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o

Target: Italian_Naples
Distance: 0.9437% / 0.00943689
Aggregated
19.8 ITA_Etruscan
15.6 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
15.0 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
10.2 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1
9.6 DEU_MA
8.6 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
6.6 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
4.6 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
4.4 ARM_LBA
3.0 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
1.6 ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
1.0 Morocco_Iberomaurusian

Target: Italian_Molise
Distance: 0.8052% / 0.00805230
Aggregated
20.6 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
15.4 DEU_MA
14.6 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
12.6 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
8.6 ITA_Villanovan
6.6 GRC_Mycenaean
6.0 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
5.6 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
5.4 ARM_LBA
3.8 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1
0.6 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2
0.2 DEU_Lech_MBA

Target: Italian_Marche
Distance: 0.6663% / 0.00666332
Aggregated
20.4 ITA_Etruscan
18.0 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
15.8 DEU_MA
15.2 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
10.2 Levant_Canaanite_MBA
7.8 ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
4.4 ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
3.4 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
3.2 ARM_LBA
0.8 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
0.4 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
0.2 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2
0.2 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA

Target: Italian_Lombardy
Distance: 0.7876% / 0.00787622
Aggregated
25.2 ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
24.8 ITA_Etruscan
23.0 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
6.8 ARM_LBA
5.4 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
5.4 DEU_MA
4.4 ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
2.8 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1
1.6 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
0.4 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
0.2 DEU_Lech_MBA

Target: Italian_Liguria
Distance: 1.4769% / 0.01476950
Aggregated
31.2 ITA_Etruscan
22.0 DEU_MA
16.4 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1
9.4 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
7.4 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
6.2 ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
5.8 ARM_LBA
1.6 Morocco_Iberomaurusian

Target: Italian_Lazio
Distance: 0.8826% / 0.00882571
Aggregated
21.4 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
21.0 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
15.4 DEU_MA
12.0 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
9.0 DEU_Lech_MBA
6.8 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2
5.2 ITA_Etruscan
3.8 ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
2.6 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
2.0 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
0.6 DEU_Lech_EBA
0.2 ARM_LBA

Target: Italian_Jew
Distance: 0.7098% / 0.00709773
Aggregated
18.2 ITA_Etruscan
18.0 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
11.8 Levant_Canaanite_MBA
10.0 ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
9.0 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
9.0 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
6.2 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
5.6 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
3.2 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
3.0 ARM_LBA
2.4 Anatolia_IA
1.4 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1
1.2 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2
1.0 DEU_Lech_MBA

Target: Italian_Campania
Distance: 0.5753% / 0.00575286
Aggregated
23.4 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
11.6 DEU_MA
10.6 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
10.4 ITA_Etruscan
8.6 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
7.4 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
6.4 Levant_Canaanite_MBA
4.8 ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
4.6 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
2.6 ARM_LBA
2.6 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
2.0 DEU_Lech_MBA
1.6 Anatolia_IA
1.2 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
1.2 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1
1.0 DEU_Lech_EBA

Target: Italian_Calabria
Distance: 0.8541% / 0.00854083
Aggregated
22.0 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
15.6 ITA_Etruscan
15.0 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
9.6 DEU_MA
8.2 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
8.0 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1
6.4 Anatolia_IA
4.2 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
2.4 ITA_Villanovan
2.2 GRC_Mycenaean
2.0 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2
1.6 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
1.6 ARM_LBA
1.2 ITA_Rome_Latini_IA

Target: Italian_Bergamo
Distance: 0.7375% / 0.00737462
Aggregated
24.8 ITA_Etruscan
20.0 DEU_MA
16.2 ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
14.4 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
9.8 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
7.4 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
7.0 ITA_Villanovan
0.2 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
0.2 GRC_Mycenaean

Target: Italian_Basilica
Distance: 0.8436% / 0.00843599
Aggregated
27.0 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
16.8 DEU_MA
10.6 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
9.4 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
8.8 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
7.4 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1
6.8 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
3.6 Anatolia_IA
3.0 ITA_Etruscan
1.8 ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
1.6 Levant_Canaanite_MBA
1.4 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
1.2 ARM_LBA
0.4 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2
0.2 Morocco_Iberomaurusian

Target: Italian_Apulia
Distance: 0.7983% / 0.00798274
Aggregated
23.4 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
23.2 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
11.6 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1
9.2 ITA_Etruscan
9.0 DEU_MA
6.2 Levant_Canaanite_MBA
5.4 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
5.2 ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
4.4 ARM_LBA
1.2 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.8 Anatolia_IA
0.2 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
0.2 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA

Target: Italian_Abruzzo
Distance: 0.5375% / 0.00537469
Aggregated
21.6 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
18.2 ITA_Etruscan
9.6 DEU_MA
9.0 ITA_Proto-Villanovan
8.6 ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
8.4 ARM_LBA
7.8 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
6.4 Levant_Canaanite_MBA
3.6 ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
3.0 DEU_Lech_MBA
2.8 England_Roman_Near_Eastern_o
0.4 Morocco_Iberomaurusian
0.4 DEU_Lech_EBA
0.2 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA2

Dick
11-13-2019, 05:50 AM
^ those are good fits

Voskos
11-13-2019, 05:54 AM
Greek ancestry tends to be overestimated by several agendas.

Here's some more reliable data using dental remains from magna graecia.



Southern Italy during pre‐colonial times was characterized by low levels of mobility and marked differences in group means and variances. During post‐colonial times, mobility increased and there were no differences in group means and variances. About 18% of the people in post‐colonial times were of Greek ancestry and lived equally distributed across Greek colonies and indigenous villages. Nevertheless, the overall biological composition and variability of southern Italy remained relatively unchanged across pre‐ and post‐colonial periods.

Discussion

Our results support a scenario in which only few Greek colonists migrated to southern Italy and lived in smaller numbers alongside indigenous people in Greek colonies as well as in indigenous villages. Our results contradict a scenario in which large numbers of Greek invaders founded biologically isolated and substantially homogeneous colonial enclaves within conquered territories.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ajpa.23937

Samnium
11-13-2019, 06:09 AM
^ those are good fitsToo much populations can lead to overfitting. I never use more than 6 populations for that reason

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J. Ketch
11-13-2019, 06:14 AM
Too much populations can lead to overfitting. I never use more than 6 populations for that reason

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Too many similar populations is overfitting, but that's only a problem if you're taking each ancestral component literally.

XenophobicPrussian
11-13-2019, 06:20 AM
Too much populations can lead to overfitting. I never use more than 6 populations for that reason

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Overfitting is not a bad thing. For all intents and purposes, consider, "ARM_LBA" and "Anatolia_EBA" the same population if you must for example, but not overfitting is worse because you miss crucial populations in certain instances.

Samnium
11-13-2019, 06:30 AM
Overfitting is not a bad thing. For all intents and purposes, consider, "ARM_LBA" and "Anatolia_EBA" the same population if you must for example, but not overfitting is worse because you miss crucial populations in certain instances.You can obtain very good distances with a 6-population model, I've made one that works very well in central and southern italian regions.

It's much more "elegant" and you limit the overfit.

XenophobicPrussian
11-13-2019, 06:49 AM
You can obtain very good distances with a 6-population model, I've made one that works very well in central and southern italian regions.

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It's not about the distances, it's about missing crucial population signals that you might miss on a limited amount of source populations. I actually agree that 6 will be enough for most populations, but there are people that think even 6 is overfitting and don't go over 3-4. 3-4 will be extremely inaccurate.

I'll give you an example, say you model Italians with Celts, Germanics, Mycenaeans, Republican Romans, Natufians, and Iran_N. That's already 6. A crucial Anatolian signal will be missed(and possibly vice versa if you replaced one of them with Anatolian), Mycenaean will pick up a lot of the Anatolian admixture and total Middle-Eastern admixture isn't known. Crucial information missing. Putting multiple of each population you're trying to detect(ie multiple Celtic proxies, using both Hallstatt and Lech_MBA for example) is also useful because various groups in the G25 coordinates have outliers included in them or are really small sample sizes(Hallstatt is only 2 individuals for example, and both individuals are very different from eachother), and even more useful when using individuals/small averaged groups rather than averaged groups because you can miss out on crucial specific genetic drift that one individual may have but another may not.

Samnium
11-13-2019, 07:03 AM
It's not about the distances, it's about missing crucial population signals that you might miss on a limited amount of source populations. I actually agree that 6 will be enough for most populations, but there are people that think even 6 is overfitting and don't go over 3-4. 3-4 will be extremely inaccurate.

I'll give you an example, say you model Italians with Celts, Germanics, Mycenaeans, Republican Romans, Natufians, and Iran_N. That's already 6. A crucial Anatolian signal will be missed(and possibly vice versa if you replaced one of them with Anatolian), Mycenaean will pick up a lot of the Anatolian admixture and total Middle-Eastern admixture isn't known. Crucial information missing. Putting multiple of each population you're trying to detect(ie multiple Celtic proxies, using both Hallstatt and Lech_MBA for example) is also useful because various groups in the G25 coordinates have outliers included in them or are really small sample sizes(Hallstatt is only 2 individuals for example, and both individuals are very different from eachother), and even more useful when using individuals/small averaged groups rather than averaged groups because you can miss out on crucial specific genetic drift that one individual may have but another may not.

I think that 6 is a good number yes, 2-3 leads to enormous errors.

Well I understand that some want to breakdown all the ancient components, personally I work more by using less populations, being conscient that some populations would include other admixture. It gives a better historical explanation/model to understand the changes that took place in the past.

The other way to work is better for very ancient samples or new individuals from previously unsampled populations.

Calpurnius
11-13-2019, 03:37 PM
Out of boredom I did another PCA this time only focusing on ancient and modern European samples, it's amazing how ÜBER WHG these new mesolithic Italians are, you can almost see how much of rest of HGs almost curve to the right in the direction of Anatolian-HG heavy populations as well as of course towards eastern HGs. We've found our new champions it seems.
https://i.imgur.com/5sIYVqr.png

J. Ketch
11-13-2019, 09:16 PM
The new Mesolithic samples have put me over 50% Steppe derived :cool:

Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 5.8449% / 0.05844946
Aggregated
50.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
36.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
12.6 ITA_Grotta_Continenza_Meso

Samnium
11-13-2019, 09:18 PM
The new Mesolithic samples have put me over 50% Steppe derived :cool:

Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 5.8449% / 0.05844946
Aggregated
50.6Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
36.8Anatolia_Barcin_N
12.6ITA_Grotta_Continenza_MesoThe mesolithic samples are incredible really...

They are so "pure" and distinct from other previous WHG samples.

We talk a lot about the Imperial or Iron age samples but these are as important as the other discoveries.

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WeirdLookingFellow
11-13-2019, 09:29 PM
Out of boredom I did another PCA this time only focusing on ancient and modern European samples, it's amazing how ÜBER WHG these new mesolithic Italians are, you can almost see how much of rest of HGs almost curve to the right in the direction of Anatolian-HG heavy populations as well as of course towards eastern HGs. We've found our new champions it seems.
https://i.imgur.com/5sIYVqr.png

Rofl at Romanians and Bulgarians looking like they are struggling to keep Greeks and Western Europeans together

vbnetkhio
11-15-2019, 10:38 AM
predictions of deeper y-dna subclades for all samples:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O9jAuIMfvYThj97rHFE5-T3sVI6LW5mNdb4ww6RW0J4/htmlview#

Pine
11-15-2019, 10:59 AM
yes, z93 is the "indo-aryan" branch. but this specific subclade (R-F1345) also has a Balto-Slavic subclade.

This is news to me. What's its Balto-Slavic subclade?

vbnetkhio
11-15-2019, 11:02 AM
This is news to me. What's its Balto-Slavic subclade?

https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y2619/

Pine
11-15-2019, 11:04 AM
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y2619/

Lol. I thought you'd say that. In the language of this forum, those aren't slavs, but (((slavs))). Those are Ashkenazi Levites.

Kamal900
11-15-2019, 11:26 AM
Lol. I thought you'd say that. In the language of this forum, those aren't slavs, but (((slavs))). Those are Ashkenazi Levites.

I wonder if my Y-DNA would be like those among the Jewish Levites since my clan is the "bayt al-Lafy" or the "house of levy" in Arabic.

Leto
11-15-2019, 01:18 PM
I wonder if my Y-DNA would be like those among the Jewish Levites since my clan is the "bayt al-Lafy" or the "house of levy" in Arabic.
I really recommend you to shell out 59 bucks for Y-12. It's very basic but at least your big curiosity will be satisfied. I did it myself, I wanted to know if I'm R1a or not. Testing further is quite expensive, so I don't plan on doing it in the nearest future.

Kamal900
11-15-2019, 01:20 PM
I really recommend you to shell out 59 bucks for Y-12. It's very basic but at least your big curiosity will be satisfied. I did it myself, I wanted to know if I'm R1a or not. Testing further is quite expensive, so I don't plan on doing it in the nearest future.

I will, bro. :)

Token
11-16-2019, 10:42 PM
Succesful formal stats model for Medieval Romans using Latini, Imperial Romans and Germanic. A combination of repopulation by rural Italians and Germanic admixture was what pushed Central Italians north.

47% Latin, 30.8% Imperial Roman, 22% Germanic.

Roman_Med
Italy_IA_Latini
Imperial_Roman
Germany_Med

right pops:
Chimp
Ust_Ishim
Brazil_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
Kostenki14
Iron_Gates
Ganj_Dareh_N
CHG
ANE
EHG
WHG
Levant_N
Anatolia_N
Steppe_EMBA
IBM

numsnps used: 463892

best coefficients: 0.470 0.308 0.222
std. errors: 0.058 0.042 0.026

fixed pat wt dof chisq tail prob
000 0 11 10.841 0.4567 0.470 0.308 0.222

Samnium
11-16-2019, 10:44 PM
Succesful formal stats model for Medieval Romans using Latini, Imperial Romans and Germanic. A combination of repopulation by rural Italians and Germanic admixture was what pushed Central Italians north.

47% Latin, 30.8% Imperial Roman, 22% Germanic.

Roman_Med
Italy_IA_Latini
Imperial_Roman
Germany_Med

right pops:
Chimp
Ust_Ishim
Brazil_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
Kostenki14
Iron_Gates
Ganj_Dareh_N
CHG
ANE
EHG
WHG
Levant_N
Anatolia_N
Steppe_EMBA
IBM

numsnps used: 463892

best coefficients: 0.470 0.308 0.222
std. errors: 0.058 0.042 0.026

fixed pat wt dof chisq tail prob
000 0 11 10.841 0.4567 0.470 0.308 0.222I'm sure that the rural areas weren't affected like urban one.

Those who say that all Italy have been easternized like Imperial samples are fooling themselves, they obviously don't take in account the italian geography and the fact that there are many isolate areas.

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Token
11-16-2019, 10:48 PM
I'm sure that the rural areas weren't affected like urban one.

Those who say that all Italy have been easternized like Imperial samples are fooling themselves, they obviously don't take in account the italian geography and the fact that there are many isolate areas.
In this model medieval Romans are still half Latin. Considering they cluster tightly with present-day Italians from all over Central Italy, do you still believe rural areas nowadays would show even more Latin ancestry?

Samnium
11-16-2019, 10:56 PM
In this model medieval Romans are still half Latin. Considering they cluster tightly with present-day Italians from all over Central Italy, do you still believe rural areas nowadays would show even more Latin ancestry?It's possible, the thing is that there are areas in C.Italy and Lazio that haven't been sampled. The Apennines area for example. The very inland Lazio, not cities that are at 30km of Rome, seriously who believe that the city of Rome being a great multicultural capital the peripherical areas wouldn't be affected ?

One important thing to take in account is that there have been very few internal migration/regional mixing in these isolate and mountainous areas. People feared the stranger, and the stranger was the guy living in a village at 15km. For hundreds of years people lived like that.

I don't think that Near-Eastern people or entire families of East-Med extraction would have reached there. Impossible.

It's not to deny the East-Med influence but Central and Southern Italy is understudied and not correctly sampled. The studies also don't differentiate the location of the samples and mix all in an average, yes ! They mix people from northern Lazio and southern Lazio, urban, coastal, inland... The same thing happens with almost all the other Central/South Italians regions...

Jacques de Imbelloni
11-25-2019, 04:18 AM
http://survivethejive.blogspot.com/

Ancient Roman DNA
New Ancient Roman/Italy Paper Summary:

https://scontent.faep9-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22528133_1535701936510373_5677442510965846005_n.jp g?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ohc=jGdVBhj4W2MAQkwwOHIRO91NhYwcAKxAfjFFuj8mCG yZv5UL3VxvEfKSg&_nc_ht=scontent.faep9-2.fna&oh=1dc502d11b9bd6a3b09bbb8c5af5ab0e&oe=5E88AF44

A new paper has been published which finally confirms what many have thought about the genetics of Ancient Rome (however it is behind a paywall so I am going only on the preview supplementary data and what geneticists have said publicly about it). The following summary is based not only on what the paper itself says, but rather what it SHOWS but not does not say.
Neolithic Italy had no steppe DNA - people were genetically like Sardinians/Etruscans
11 pre-Imperial Roman samples plot as more Northern than modern Italians or Neolithic ones - They resemble people from Southern France(???) - which means a significantly more Northern shifted (than modern french people) population entered the Italian peninsula, mixed over the Iron Age with natives and redefined the ethnic character of the region throughout the Roman Republic.(which paper says that???)
The paper doesn't specify the most likely sources of this northerly population which is the Bell Beaker and/or Urnfield cultures. In the supplementary info they mention 99% of Bell Beaker folk carried R1b M269 paternal haplogroup (present in Italy too). Instead of saying how Bell Beaker DNA entered Italy they just say "Steppe-related" people went to Italy in the Bronze age. This is misleading since they had left the steppe some 1000 years earlier and were now ethnically Central Europeans.
The chronology of genetic change indicates the Urnfield expansion into Italy may mark arrival of Italic languages rather than the earlier Bell Beakers - they are related anyway so its likely two waves into Italy.
Imperial Roman samples show a major shift toward MENA populations like Egyptians/ Carthaginians/ Syrians etc. The Roman Empire certainly made Italian people less European by attracting Middle Eastern migrants. People have said this for centuries.
Italy became more European again after the Roman Empire. The paper suggests that the resurgence of European ancestry and reduction of Near Eastern admixture starting in Late antiquity and ending in the Middle Ages is due to migration into Italy from Central Europe (Celtic and Germanic invasions for eg?)

The most interesting thing from my perspective is what the paper doesn't discuss, which is which population from North of the Alps brought Indo-European languages to Italy.




Somebody made this which is interesting - they map the genetic shifts in Italy to the religious shifts - showing that the rise of near eastern cults like that of Cybele corresponds with a rise in Near Eastern admixture. What is labelled here as "European" should properly be labelled "Indo-European"


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How does what we know about the changing demographics of Imperial Rome inform our understanding of the rise of Christianity within it, the importance of the Chaldean oracles as a "bible" for neoplatonists and the apparent ignorance of pagan theology displayed by Saint Paul when he delivered a sermon at the Areopagus in Athens? I am going to chat about this in tonight's Jive Talk. The first half hour is public and the second part will be available only for patrons at one of the following two websites:

Jacques de Imbelloni
11-25-2019, 09:25 PM
bump

Samnium
11-25-2019, 09:51 PM
About eastern religions I made the same comment but for mithraism in Ostia on Anthrogenica. There were certainly communities of near-easterners.

You can mention also Isis cults that became very popular, in fact in Pompei there is a temple of Isis that was discovered.

Jacques de Imbelloni
11-28-2019, 03:41 PM
bump

Samnium
11-28-2019, 03:52 PM
Lol he made fallacious and delirious theories.

11 pre-Imperial Roman samples plot as more Northern than modern Italians or Neolithic ones - They resemble people from Southern France(???) - which means a significantly more Northern shifted (than modern french people) population entered the Italian peninsula, mixed over the Iron Age with natives and redefined the ethnic character of the region throughout the Roman Republic.

:rotfl::rotfl:

There was only one southwest France outlier in Iron Age samples

Jacques de Imbelloni
11-28-2019, 04:55 PM
https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1550872971290.png

L3mon J3lly
11-28-2019, 05:20 PM
https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1550872971290.png

Stop posting these retarded pictures, you're making southern Europeans look like even more of an embarrassment than they already are. The original Romans were Germanic-like central Europeans and their ruling/military caste had a Nordic phenotype. Accept it and clean your parents' apartment.

Samnium
11-28-2019, 05:25 PM
Stop posting these retarded pictures, you're making southern Europeans look like even more of an embarrassment than they already are. The original Romans were Germanic-like central Europeans and their ruling/military caste had a Nordic phenotype. Accept it and clean your parents' apartment.

You've returned from your long exile.

Romans were Southwest people, not Germanic or Austrian-like. Deals with that.

Jacques de Imbelloni
11-28-2019, 06:55 PM
Stop posting these retarded pictures, you're making southern Europeans look like even more of an embarrassment than they already are. The original Romans were Germanic-like central Europeans and their ruling/military caste had a Nordic phenotype. Accept it and clean your parents' apartment.

shut up fractal, go back to india.

Samnium
11-28-2019, 07:12 PM
shut up fractal, go back to india.

He describes himself as arab :picard1: I'm sure that he isn't even arab, maybe an indian troll yes.

Dna8
11-28-2019, 08:01 PM
fallacious and delirious theories.

Lol, what a charmingly continental phrasing.

Samnium
11-28-2019, 08:03 PM
Lol, what a charmingly continental phrasing.

I've made some poetry, but in French. I can create a post with you want.

Dna8
11-28-2019, 08:06 PM
I've made some poetry, but in French. I can create a post with you want.

Here is an idea..

Because most of the forum is not French speaking, I would suggest that you found a thread upon a vocaroo recording of yourself, performing one of your poems.

Dna8
11-28-2019, 08:13 PM
Une personne qui ne sait ni parler ni écrire le français pourrait être plus touchée par l'écoute d'un poème français que par sa lecture.

Je dirais que la qualité fondamentale de la poésie est saine.

Samnium
11-28-2019, 08:27 PM
Une personne qui ne sait ni parler ni écrire le français pourrait être plus touchée par l'écoute d'un poème français que par sa lecture.

Je dirais que la qualité fondamentale de la poésie est saine.

Yes here there are very few french speaking people, I think that the poetry can't be really translated.

Dna8
11-28-2019, 08:39 PM
Yes here there are very few french speaking people, I think that the poetry can't be really translated.

I would argue that, to some pretty degree, there is no need for translation.

A recording of you reading the poem would suffice.

I do not need to know their language, to identify the nature (friendly, humorous, adversarial?) of the conversation my neighbors are having (I can rely purely on hearing the sounds that they are making).

guezet
12-03-2019, 01:41 PM
https://i.imgur.com/a7Sm6ns.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jt9HfCu.jpg

Dna8
12-03-2019, 11:53 PM
https://i.imgur.com/a7Sm6ns.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jt9HfCu.jpg

What titles would you give these two graphs, my friend?

Ajeje Brazorf
06-01-2021, 01:04 AM
Thanks to Salento from Eupedia for sharing the kits:

https://i.imgur.com/vPhqYEm.gif


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GEDmatch Kit
Sample


GG2504860
ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA:RMPR851


SN3426822
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Kenshiro
04-07-2022, 10:05 AM
Roman Imperial it’s basically italic mixed with hellenic and some levantine admix?
113327
I don't seem very moldable like this, I'm from Apulia

Kenshiro
04-07-2022, 10:10 AM
New model for S.Italian regions, I used Imperial roman samples, Rome Ardea and Rome Latini. I added other elements to fit with the populations like Guanche, DEU_MA and ARM_MBA.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643559709609033733/unknown.png

I obtain a very good fit with Campania ! (0.5487%)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643559861040185344/unknown.png

Other regions :

Sicily East

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/490551642446495772/643559898482999361/unknown.png

Sicily West

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643559946624958475/unknown.png

Calabria

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/490551642446495772/643560004175265810/unknown.png

Calabria can be modelized as 80% Imperial Roman, followed by Campania. This can confirm what I've said for Campania having retained Imperial era profile.
I don't seem very moldable like this, I'm from Apulia
113328

Dimitri159
09-12-2022, 05:04 PM
Well it's cool to see that the Romans were actually Europeans, unlike the Myceanean Greeks (super wog outliers, practically Jewoids)

Fu** off self-hating Greek.

Ratmir
09-12-2022, 05:20 PM
Naples is said to have been even more cosmopolitan than Rome. Something has to explain how the fuck Campanians manage to plot south of Western Sicilians...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qesXIWOQAJg
What language is that? Doesn't sound like Italian to me, nor like Spanish. Some kind of Balkanite speech, similar to Romanian. And the guy looks non-European basically.

Ajeje Brazorf
09-12-2022, 06:20 PM
What language is that? Doesn't sound like Italian to me, nor like Spanish. Some kind of Balkanite speech, similar to Romanian. And the guy looks non-European basically.

The language (or "dialect" as we say in Italian) is Neapolitan. My mother speaks it and I understand it.

The boy's name is "Giuseppe Ben Salah", from his last name I assume he is not of local descent, although there are obviously southern Italians with the same complexion or features.

Joachim
04-14-2023, 06:16 AM
There's some reports this replacement happened way earlier
300 BC roman sample is already plotting with east meds

Could be the Roman pyrrhus treaty which allowed ionians(hellenized anatolians) from Naples and Campania to flood rome.
Naples was the first City to fall to rome

After punic war this would have increased heavily since romans lost so many men to hannibal

I won't be surprised if the Romans who defeated mcaedonians and burnt Corinth were like anatolians already.

Joachim
04-14-2023, 06:22 AM
Remeber,naples already fell by 320 bc to rome,and the last greek city fell by 270 bc (taranto)

Fall of Naples would have allowed flood of ionians and hellenized anatolians to rome
And by 180 bc,Romans will already plot with anatolians most likley

Unfortunately this study only shows sampled until 300 bc,it after it,which is the most important part.

renaissance12
04-14-2023, 09:17 AM
The language (or "dialect" as we say in Italian) is Neapolitan. My mother speaks it and I understand it.

The boy's name is "Giuseppe Ben Salah", from his last name I assume he is not of local descent, although there are obviously southern Italians with the same complexion or features.

Go capio parchè te ghe picà fora el muso de on teron.. te si mexo teron ( o anca on teron intiero..? )