Cossack Genetics

[Daos777]

Are they mostly Slav? What other admixtures do they have? Also post any Cossack gedmatch kits or g25 results if you have any thanks.


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[Dick]

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[Cumansky]

Zaporozhian Cossack Academic Sample XN2475331

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 45.92
2 North_Atlantic 26.28
3 West_Med 9.62
4 East_Med 7.61
5 West_Asian 3.72
6 Siberian 2.72
7 South_Asian 2.32
8 Red_Sea 1.02
9 Amerindian 0.79

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 3.7
2 Estonian_Polish 4.53
3 Ukrainian 4.74
4 Russian_Smolensk 5.23
5 Belorussian 5.44
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.62
7 Polish 5.91
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.94
9 South_Polish 6.44
10 Kargopol_Russian 7.64
11 Lithuanian 9.61
12 Erzya 9.84
13 Estonian 9.91
14 Croatian 10.94
15 East_Finnish 11.31
16 Finnish 11.33
17 Southwest_Finnish 12.71
18 Moldavian 13.53
19 Hungarian 14.65
20 East_German 16.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.2% Estonian_Polish + 8.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.03
2 92.5% Estonian_Polish + 7.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.15
3 92.5% Estonian_Polish + 7.5% Italian_Jewish @ 2.16
4 93% Estonian_Polish + 7% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.23
5 92.6% Estonian_Polish + 7.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.23
6 93.7% Estonian_Polish + 6.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.24
7 93.2% Estonian_Polish + 6.8% Cyprian @ 2.25
8 93% Estonian_Polish + 7% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.26
9 93.9% Estonian_Polish + 6.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.27
10 93.8% Estonian_Polish + 6.2% Samaritan @ 2.28
11 89.5% Estonian_Polish + 10.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.3
12 92% Estonian_Polish + 8% South_Italian @ 2.33
13 91.5% Estonian_Polish + 8.5% East_Sicilian @ 2.35
14 91.3% Estonian_Polish + 8.7% Central_Greek @ 2.38
15 93.8% Estonian_Polish + 6.2% Palestinian @ 2.41
16 93.5% Estonian_Polish + 6.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.42
17 91.5% Estonian_Polish + 8.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.42
18 86.7% Estonian_Polish + 13.3% Bulgarian @ 2.47
19 93.6% Estonian_Polish + 6.4% Syrian @ 2.48
20 93.7% Estonian_Polish + 6.3% Jordanian @ 2.49

Zaporozhian Cossack Academic Sample ZU7033837

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.73
2 North_Atlantic 19.89
3 West_Asian 17
4 East_Med 14.19
5 West_Med 9.27
6 South_Asian 2.42
7 Amerindian 1.31
8 Red_Sea 1.14
9 Northeast_African 1.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 9.84
2 Croatian 12.16
3 Serbian 12.67
4 Romanian 13.16
5 Bulgarian 13.75
6 Hungarian 14.64
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.36
8 Ukrainian 16.62
9 South_Polish 16.66
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.78
11 Southwest_Russian 17.37
12 Austrian 19.03
13 Polish 19.35
14 Tatar 19.43
15 East_German 19.69
16 Russian_Smolensk 19.93
17 Estonian_Polish 20.86
18 Erzya 21.15
19 Kargopol_Russian 21.28
20 Belorussian 21.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.6% Lithuanian + 37.4% Armenian @ 2.12
2 71.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 28.4% Armenian @ 2.16
3 70.9% Southwest_Russian + 29.1% Armenian @ 2.56
4 68% Russian_Smolensk + 32% Armenian @ 2.65
5 67% Estonian_Polish + 33% Armenian @ 2.84
6 71.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 28.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.85
7 66.4% Belorussian + 33.6% Armenian @ 2.98
8 71.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 28.3% Assyrian @ 2.99
9 69.6% Southwest_Russian + 30.4% Kurdish @ 3.04
10 65.5% Estonian_Polish + 34.5% Kurdish @ 3.11
11 67.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 32.8% Turkish @ 3.17
12 70.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 29.6% Kurdish @ 3.24
13 70.6% Ukrainian + 29.4% Kurdish @ 3.29
14 66.6% Russian_Smolensk + 33.4% Kurdish @ 3.32
15 67.6% Russian_Smolensk + 32.4% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.32
16 68.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 31.8% Azeri @ 3.36
17 70.6% Southwest_Russian + 29.4% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.39
18 62.2% Lithuanian + 37.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.4
19 65% Belorussian + 35% Kurdish @ 3.45
20 67.3% Polish + 32.7% Kurdish @ 3.5

Zaporozhian Cossack (Buczacz)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 37.75
2 North_Atlantic 27.73
3 West_Med 13.05
4 East_Med 9.77
5 West_Asian 6.73
6 Siberian 3.07
7 Red_Sea 1.25
8 South_Asian 0.33
9 Oceanian 0.17
10 Sub-Saharan 0.12
11 East_Asian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.84
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.87
3 Moldavian 6.15
4 South_Polish 6.26
5 Ukrainian 6.78
6 Hungarian 7.16
7 Polish 9.78
8 Southwest_Russian 10.16
9 East_German 10.68
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.9
11 Austrian 11.37
12 Serbian 11.38
13 Russian_Smolensk 11.76
14 Estonian_Polish 12.09
15 Belorussian 12.62
16 Kargopol_Russian 13.9
17 Southwest_Finnish 14.76
18 Romanian 15.21
19 Erzya 16.06
20 Finnish 16.15

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.2% Southwest_Russian + 26.8% North_Italian @ 1.8
2 51.7% Estonian + 48.3% Bulgarian @ 1.89
3 51.5% Romanian + 48.5% Estonian @ 2.01
4 61.8% Estonian + 38.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.08
5 67.3% Estonian + 32.7% Central_Greek @ 2.08
6 69.9% Estonian + 30.1% South_Italian @ 2.21
7 51.6% Serbian + 48.4% Estonian_Polish @ 2.32
8 63.7% Ukrainian + 36.3% Serbian @ 2.36
9 68% Estonian + 32% East_Sicilian @ 2.39
10 59% Serbian + 41% Estonian @ 2.46
11 55.2% Serbian + 44.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.49
12 85.4% Croatian + 14.6% East_Finnish @ 2.5
13 75% Southwest_Russian + 25% Tuscan @ 2.54
14 82.5% Ukrainian + 17.5% Tuscan @ 2.56
15 76.4% Southwest_Russian + 23.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.58
16 88.1% South_Polish + 11.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.59
17 83.6% Ukrainian + 16.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.59
18 86% South_Polish + 14% Ashkenazi @ 2.61
19 84.2% Ukrainian + 15.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.61
20 60.6% Serbian + 39.4% Lithuanian @ 2.62

Mother Zaporozhian Cossack (Buczacz, Lviv)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 45.95
2 North_Atlantic 24.29
3 East_Med 11.25
4 West_Med 10.66
5 Sub-Saharan 3.08
6 West_Asian 1.7
7 Siberian 1.67
8 Red_Sea 0.72
9 Northeast_African 0.6
10 Oceanian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 7.64
2 Ukrainian 8.21
3 Estonian_Polish 8.47
4 Belorussian 9.04
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.11
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.22
7 Russian_Smolensk 9.39
8 South_Polish 9.55
9 Polish 9.7
10 Kargopol_Russian 11.8
11 Croatian 11.88
12 Lithuanian 12.74
13 Erzya 12.89
14 Estonian 13.73
15 Moldavian 14.05
16 East_Finnish 14.99
17 Finnish 15.08
18 Hungarian 15.87
19 Southwest_Finnish 16.28
20 East_German 18.34

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.4% Estonian_Polish + 11.6% Tunisian @ 5.43
2 87.4% Belorussian + 12.6% Tunisian @ 5.56
3 81.2% Lithuanian + 18.8% Tunisian @ 5.63
4 80.4% Lithuanian + 19.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.67
5 88.7% Estonian_Polish + 11.3% Algerian @ 5.68
6 88.9% Estonian_Polish + 11.1% Mozabite_Berber @ 5.7
7 88.2% Estonian_Polish + 11.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.71
8 89.8% Estonian_Polish + 10.2% Egyptian @ 5.71
9 86.5% Estonian_Polish + 13.5% Ashkenazi @ 5.77
10 77.7% Lithuanian + 22.3% Ashkenazi @ 5.78
11 87.8% Belorussian + 12.2% Mozabite_Berber @ 5.8
12 87.7% Belorussian + 12.3% Algerian @ 5.83
13 89.2% Estonian_Polish + 10.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.9
14 88.6% Estonian_Polish + 11.4% Italian_Jewish @ 5.91
15 89.2% Estonian_Polish + 10.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 5.92
16 87.3% Belorussian + 12.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.92
17 90.4% Estonian_Polish + 9.6% Samaritan @ 5.96
18 89.4% Estonian_Polish + 10.6% Moroccan @ 5.98
19 90.6% Estonian_Polish + 9.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.99
20 80.8% Lithuanian + 19.2% Italian_Jewish @ 6

[Cumansky]

"The earliest recorded mention of Buchach is in 1260 by Bartosz Paprocki in his book "Gniazdo Cnoty, zkąd herby Rycerstwa Polskiego swój początek mają", Kraków, 1578. In 1349, the region of Halychyna (Galicia) became part of the Kingdom of Poland. As a part of Ruthenian Voivodeship remained in Poland from 1434 until 1772 (see Partitions of Poland). It was during this time that the area experienced a large influx of Polish, Jewish and Armenian settlers. In the late 14th century, Polish nobleman (szlachta), Michał Awdaniec, Abdank coat of arms became the owner of the town on 1360-s or 1370-s. On July 28, 1379, Michał Awdaniec founded a Roman Catholic parish church, and built a castle.[citation needed] agreed to grant Magdeburg rights to Buchach (Buczacz): it was first Magdeburg-style city, located in the Halych Land. In the early 15th century, the Awdaniec family of Buchach changed its last name into Buczacki, after its main residence. Frequent invasions of the Crimean Tatars brought destruction to the town, and in 1515, it once again received the Magdeburg rights. In 1558 Katarzyna Tworowska nee Buczacka get the king's grant for market in Buchach. In 1580, local castle was rebuilt: the castle was twice besieged by the Tatars (1665, 1667), who finally captured it in 1672, during the Polish–Ottoman War (1672–76). Buchach was a temporary residence of Mehmed IV; here, on October 18, 1672, the Treaty of Buchach was signed between Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Ottoman Empire. According to this treaty, Poland handed the provinces of Ukraine and Podolia to Turkey. As a result, until 1683 Buchach was divided into two parts: Polish and Ottoman.

In the 17th and 18th centuries, Buchach belonged to the Potocki family. Mikołaj Bazyli Potocki, the Starosta of Kaniv, Bohuslav, the son of Stefan Aleksander Potocki, Voivode of Belz, who became a Greek-Catholic about 1758, built here Buchach cityhall with a 35-meter tower (near 1751), a late Baroque Roman Catholic Church (1761–1763), and rebuilt the castle, destroyed by the Turks. With the unification of Poland and Lithuania in 1569, the newly united kingdom extended from the Baltic to the Black Sea. Owing to its importance as a market town, Buchach had become a prominent trading centre linking Poland and the Ottoman Empire."

[vbnetkhio]

Are they mostly Slav? What other admixtures do they have? Also post any Cossack gedmatch kits or g25 results if you have any thanks.


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QE4937656 Cossack_Kuban_N3a4
RG7101326 Cossacks_Kuban_r1a1c
XN2475331 Cossacks_Zaporozhie_r1a1d
ZU7033837 Cossacks_Zaporozhie_r1a2b

3 of these plot just like Ukrainians, one is mixed with something

[Jana]

QE4937656 Cossack_Kuban_N3a4
RG7101326 Cossacks_Kuban_r1a1c
XN2475331 Cossacks_Zaporozhie_r1a1d
ZU7033837 Cossacks__r1a2b

3 of these plot just like Ukrainians, one is mixed with something

Is the one mixed from Kuban or Zaporozhie?

[Cumansky]

QE4937656 Cossack_Kuban_N3a4
RG7101326 Cossacks_Kuban_r1a1c
XN2475331 Cossacks_Zaporozhie_r1a1d
ZU7033837 Cossacks_Zaporozhie_r1a2b

3 of these plot just like Ukrainians, one is mixed with something

What do you mean mixed with something? Wtf that supposed to mean

[Cumansky]

Is the one mixed from Kuban or Zaporozhie?

Stay in your lane, don't worry too much about me

[Jana]

Stay in your lane, don't worry too much about me

Don't flatter yourself idiot. You are not any of these samples.

[Cumansky]

Don't flatter yourself idiot. You are not any of these samples.

Mother

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 45.95
2 North_Atlantic 24.29
3 East_Med 11.25
4 West_Med 10.66
5 Sub-Saharan 3.08
6 West_Asian 1.7
7 Siberian 1.67
8 Red_Sea 0.72
9 Northeast_African 0.6
10 Oceanian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 7.64
2 Ukrainian 8.21
3 Estonian_Polish 8.47
4 Belorussian 9.04
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.11
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.22
7 Russian_Smolensk 9.39
8 South_Polish 9.55
9 Polish 9.7
10 Kargopol_Russian 11.8
11 Croatian 11.88
12 Lithuanian 12.74
13 Erzya 12.89
14 Estonian 13.73
15 Moldavian 14.05
16 East_Finnish 14.99
17 Finnish 15.08
18 Hungarian 15.87
19 Southwest_Finnish 16.28
20 East_German 18.34

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.4% Estonian_Polish + 11.6% Tunisian @ 5.43
2 87.4% Belorussian + 12.6% Tunisian @ 5.56
3 81.2% Lithuanian + 18.8% Tunisian @ 5.63
4 80.4% Lithuanian + 19.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.67
5 88.7% Estonian_Polish + 11.3% Algerian @ 5.68
6 88.9% Estonian_Polish + 11.1% Mozabite_Berber @ 5.7
7 88.2% Estonian_Polish + 11.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.71
8 89.8% Estonian_Polish + 10.2% Egyptian @ 5.71
9 86.5% Estonian_Polish + 13.5% Ashkenazi @ 5.77
10 77.7% Lithuanian + 22.3% Ashkenazi @ 5.78
11 87.8% Belorussian + 12.2% Mozabite_Berber @ 5.8
12 87.7% Belorussian + 12.3% Algerian @ 5.83
13 89.2% Estonian_Polish + 10.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.9
14 88.6% Estonian_Polish + 11.4% Italian_Jewish @ 5.91
15 89.2% Estonian_Polish + 10.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 5.92
16 87.3% Belorussian + 12.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.92
17 90.4% Estonian_Polish + 9.6% Samaritan @ 5.96
18 89.4% Estonian_Polish + 10.6% Moroccan @ 5.98
19 90.6% Estonian_Polish + 9.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.99
20 80.8% Lithuanian + 19.2% Italian_Jewish @ 6

Zaporozhian Cossack Academic Sample XN2475331

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 45.92
2 North_Atlantic 26.28
3 West_Med 9.62
4 East_Med 7.61
5 West_Asian 3.72
6 Siberian 2.72
7 South_Asian 2.32
8 Red_Sea 1.02
9 Amerindian 0.79

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 3.7
2 Estonian_Polish 4.53
3 Ukrainian 4.74
4 Russian_Smolensk 5.23
5 Belorussian 5.44
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.62
7 Polish 5.91
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.94
9 South_Polish 6.44
10 Kargopol_Russian 7.64
11 Lithuanian 9.61
12 Erzya 9.84
13 Estonian 9.91
14 Croatian 10.94
15 East_Finnish 11.31
16 Finnish 11.33
17 Southwest_Finnish 12.71
18 Moldavian 13.53
19 Hungarian 14.65
20 East_German 16.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.2% Estonian_Polish + 8.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.03
2 92.5% Estonian_Polish + 7.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.15
3 92.5% Estonian_Polish + 7.5% Italian_Jewish @ 2.16
4 93% Estonian_Polish + 7% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.23
5 92.6% Estonian_Polish + 7.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.23
6 93.7% Estonian_Polish + 6.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.24
7 93.2% Estonian_Polish + 6.8% Cyprian @ 2.25
8 93% Estonian_Polish + 7% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.26
9 93.9% Estonian_Polish + 6.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.27
10 93.8% Estonian_Polish + 6.2% Samaritan @ 2.28
11 89.5% Estonian_Polish + 10.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.3
12 92% Estonian_Polish + 8% South_Italian @ 2.33
13 91.5% Estonian_Polish + 8.5% East_Sicilian @ 2.35
14 91.3% Estonian_Polish + 8.7% Central_Greek @ 2.38
15 93.8% Estonian_Polish + 6.2% Palestinian @ 2.41
16 93.5% Estonian_Polish + 6.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.42
17 91.5% Estonian_Polish + 8.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.42
18 86.7% Estonian_Polish + 13.3% Bulgarian @ 2.47
19 93.6% Estonian_Polish + 6.4% Syrian @ 2.48
20 93.7% Estonian_Polish + 6.3% Jordanian @ 2.49

[Jana]

We have no interest in you.

[Cumansky]

We have no interest in you.

Then why are you in Cossack thread?

Go to any other thread and spread your virus

[vbnetkhio]

Is the one mixed from Kuban or Zaporozhie?

i plotted them some time ago without checking the names, but i'm pretty sure it's "Zaporozhian Cossack ZU7033837" Cumansky posted his results

[Jana]

Then why are you in Cossack thread?

Stop pretending you are relevant and that you're some kind of authority. It's none of your business what interests me and what doesn't.
You cartanly don't.

[Jana]

i plotted them some time ago without checking the names, but i'm pretty sure it's "Zaporozhian Cossack ZU7033837" Cumansky posted his results

I asked because historically some Kuban Cossaks could be partly Circassian, but not sure how well does that reflects in genetics.

[Cumansky]

Stop pretending you are relevant and that you're some kind of authority. It's none of your business what interests me and what doesn't.
You cartanly don't.

Ok lol

[Cumansky]

i plotted them some time ago without checking the names, but i'm pretty sure it's "Zaporozhian Cossack ZU7033837" Cumansky posted his results

That is the sample with Caucasus shift. Read article I posted, if they are from Ternopil same as me there was Armenians in the region as one of the main minority. I don't know where they got those samples, I don't have this info

[vbnetkhio]

That is the sample with Caucasus shift. Read article I posted, if they are from Ternopil same as me there was Armenians in the region as one of the main minority. I don't know where they got those samples, I don't have this info

they have Zaporozhie and Kuban listed under the location in the data table, which means they tested people who actually still live in those places.

check the "samples.xslx" here
https://evolbio.ut.ee/CGgenomes_VCF/

[Cumansky]

they have Zaporozhie and Kuban listed under the location in the data table, which means they tested people who actually still live in those places.

check the "samples.xslx" here
https://evolbio.ut.ee/CGgenomes_VCF/

Then my Mother is almost perfect match with Cossack from Zaporozhia, it makes sense because that is my Mother Maiden Surname

[Cumansky]

Mother

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 45.95
2 North_Atlantic 24.29
3 East_Med 11.25
4 West_Med 10.66
5 Sub-Saharan 3.08
6 West_Asian 1.7
7 Siberian 1.67
8 Red_Sea 0.72
9 Northeast_African 0.6
10 Oceanian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 7.64
2 Ukrainian 8.21
3 Estonian_Polish 8.47
4 Belorussian 9.04
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.11
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.22
7 Russian_Smolensk 9.39
8 South_Polish 9.55
9 Polish 9.7
10 Kargopol_Russian 11.8
11 Croatian 11.88
12 Lithuanian 12.74
13 Erzya 12.89
14 Estonian 13.73
15 Moldavian 14.05
16 East_Finnish 14.99
17 Finnish 15.08
18 Hungarian 15.87
19 Southwest_Finnish 16.28
20 East_German 18.34

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.4% Estonian_Polish + 11.6% Tunisian @ 5.43
2 87.4% Belorussian + 12.6% Tunisian @ 5.56
3 81.2% Lithuanian + 18.8% Tunisian @ 5.63
4 80.4% Lithuanian + 19.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.67
5 88.7% Estonian_Polish + 11.3% Algerian @ 5.68
6 88.9% Estonian_Polish + 11.1% Mozabite_Berber @ 5.7
7 88.2% Estonian_Polish + 11.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.71
8 89.8% Estonian_Polish + 10.2% Egyptian @ 5.71
9 86.5% Estonian_Polish + 13.5% Ashkenazi @ 5.77
10 77.7% Lithuanian + 22.3% Ashkenazi @ 5.78
11 87.8% Belorussian + 12.2% Mozabite_Berber @ 5.8
12 87.7% Belorussian + 12.3% Algerian @ 5.83
13 89.2% Estonian_Polish + 10.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.9
14 88.6% Estonian_Polish + 11.4% Italian_Jewish @ 5.91
15 89.2% Estonian_Polish + 10.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 5.92
16 87.3% Belorussian + 12.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.92
17 90.4% Estonian_Polish + 9.6% Samaritan @ 5.96
18 89.4% Estonian_Polish + 10.6% Moroccan @ 5.98
19 90.6% Estonian_Polish + 9.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.99
20 80.8% Lithuanian + 19.2% Italian_Jewish @ 6

Zaporozhian Cossack Academic Sample XN2475331

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 45.92
2 North_Atlantic 26.28
3 West_Med 9.62
4 East_Med 7.61
5 West_Asian 3.72
6 Siberian 2.72
7 South_Asian 2.32
8 Red_Sea 1.02
9 Amerindian 0.79

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 3.7
2 Estonian_Polish 4.53
3 Ukrainian 4.74
4 Russian_Smolensk 5.23
5 Belorussian 5.44
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.62
7 Polish 5.91
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.94
9 South_Polish 6.44
10 Kargopol_Russian 7.64
11 Lithuanian 9.61
12 Erzya 9.84
13 Estonian 9.91
14 Croatian 10.94
15 East_Finnish 11.31
16 Finnish 11.33
17 Southwest_Finnish 12.71
18 Moldavian 13.53
19 Hungarian 14.65
20 East_German 16.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.2% Estonian_Polish + 8.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.03
2 92.5% Estonian_Polish + 7.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.15
3 92.5% Estonian_Polish + 7.5% Italian_Jewish @ 2.16
4 93% Estonian_Polish + 7% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.23
5 92.6% Estonian_Polish + 7.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.23
6 93.7% Estonian_Polish + 6.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.24
7 93.2% Estonian_Polish + 6.8% Cyprian @ 2.25
8 93% Estonian_Polish + 7% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.26
9 93.9% Estonian_Polish + 6.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.27
10 93.8% Estonian_Polish + 6.2% Samaritan @ 2.28
11 89.5% Estonian_Polish + 10.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.3
12 92% Estonian_Polish + 8% South_Italian @ 2.33
13 91.5% Estonian_Polish + 8.5% East_Sicilian @ 2.35
14 91.3% Estonian_Polish + 8.7% Central_Greek @ 2.38
15 93.8% Estonian_Polish + 6.2% Palestinian @ 2.41
16 93.5% Estonian_Polish + 6.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.42
17 91.5% Estonian_Polish + 8.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.42
18 86.7% Estonian_Polish + 13.3% Bulgarian @ 2.47
19 93.6% Estonian_Polish + 6.4% Syrian @ 2.48
20 93.7% Estonian_Polish + 6.3% Jordanian @ 2.49

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[WeirdLookingFellow]

I asked because historically some Kuban Cossaks could be partly Circassian, but not sure how well does that reflects in genetics.

Based on these samples posted only one appears with a sort of Turkish input (West Asian + East Med) while the others appear to have minor Tatar mix.

Here are the two Cossack samples on G25:

Cossack_Kuban:GS000035179,0.130897,0.098506,0.0750 47,0.064277,0.033852,0.016176,0.0094,0.017076,0.00 0205,-0.02442,0,-0.006594,0.017988,0.012799,-0.009636,0.008088,0.021905,0.000633,-0.002514,0.006003,0.005865,-0.000866,-0.003204,0.002771,-0.003473
Cossack_Ukrainian:GS000035238,0.135449,0.116786,0. 071653,0.060078,0.033852,0.023148,0.011281,0.01061 5,0.003068,-0.017859,-0.000974,-0.008243,0.017839,0.021744,-0.009093,0.001989,0.000391,0.005194,0.00352,0.0033 77,-0.009608,-0.002349,0.004067,-0.006868,0.000599

[War Chef]

Nothing special about them at all. Just like Ukrainians and your run-of-the-mill south Russians.

[Cumansky]

Based on these samples posted only one appears with a sort of Turkish input (West Asian + East Med) while the others appear to have minor Tatar mix.

Here are the two Cossack samples on G25:

Cossack_Kuban:GS000035179,0.130897,0.098506,0.0750 47,0.064277,0.033852,0.016176,0.0094,0.017076,0.00 0205,-0.02442,0,-0.006594,0.017988,0.012799,-0.009636,0.008088,0.021905,0.000633,-0.002514,0.006003,0.005865,-0.000866,-0.003204,0.002771,-0.003473
Cossack_Ukrainian:GS000035238,0.135449,0.116786,0. 071653,0.060078,0.033852,0.023148,0.011281,0.01061 5,0.003068,-0.017859,-0.000974,-0.008243,0.017839,0.021744,-0.009093,0.001989,0.000391,0.005194,0.00352,0.0033 77,-0.009608,-0.002349,0.004067,-0.006868,0.000599

If someone is Turkish it will be higher West_Asian than East_Med is the Levantine marker

[Cumansky]

Nothing special about them at all. Just like Ukrainians and your run-of-the-mill south Russians.

Shut up man your runofthemill Turkmeni

[Jana]

Nothing special about them at all. Just like Ukrainians and your run-of-the-mill south Russians.

Pretty much. :)

[Cumansky]

Pretty much. :)

I will make concentration camp for Croats soon

[Jana]

I will make concentration camp for Croats soon

You are half Polonised Eastern Slav. Deal with it.

[vbnetkhio]

Nothing special about them at all. Just like Ukrainians and your run-of-the-mill south Russians.

except that one Zaporozhian sample, but he probably just has one pure Armenian grandparent.

[Cumansky]

You are half Pononised Eastern Slav. Deal with it.

You are British looking whitetrash with HPV that ancestors collaborated with Ottomans this is not even your tribe you are whitetrash. You know Balkaners are special very special with their Turkish DNA if that makes you special I rather be Jew then special

Special Turks without East Asian DNA only West Asian

[Cumansky]

#swarthyteam

[War Chef]

#swarthyteam

You having a mental breakdown or what?

[Cumansky]

You having a mental breakdown or what?

Realize one thing, you are Seljuk son. That is all I have to tell you, Cousin

[Jana]

You are British looking whitetrash with HPV that ancestors collaborated with Ottomans this is not even your tribe you are whitetrash. You know Balkaners are special very special with their Turkish DNA if that makes you special I rather be Jew then special

Special Turks without East Asian DNA only West Asian

Actually, British looking white trash is you. I saw you mug. You look like Tom Hardy for poor.

:1127:

[Cumansky]

Actually, British looking white trash is you. I saw you mug. You look like Tom Hardy for poor.

:1127:

Lol your so ugly, if you pay me a million I wouldn't hit it 3 condoms

[Jana]

Lol your so ugly, if you pay me a million I wouldn't hit it 3 condoms

But I wouldn't touch you with a stick, you look like trash compared to Stears :D

[Cumansky]

..

[Cumansky]

But I wouldn't touch you with a stick, you look like trash compared to Stears :D

Stears has HPV lmao

[Jana]

Stears has HPV lmao

Stears is hot, you are not.

[Cumansky]

Stears is hot, you are not.

I don't know, is that what happens HPV virus symptoms you get fever?

[Cumansky]

Stears is hot, you are not.

IMO Stears and Feichy look like they were renting a room in Chernobyl reactor basement for about 5 years

[Jana]

:picard2::picard1:

[War Chef]

Realize one thing, you are Seljuk son. That is all I have to tell you, Cousin

Lol the irony here is I am closer to Cumans than you are. Why you LARPing brah?
You're just a run-of-the-mill Polak/Uke.... Aint nothing spectacular about you

[Impaler]

What the bloody hell is going on here?

[War Chef]

You're a freaking chimpanzee обезьяна
I suggest you learn how to control your hysteria,
unless you are 13 years old there is no excuse for being hysterical drama-queen

[Cumansky]

Lol the irony here is I am closer to Cumans than you are. Why you LARPing brah?
You're just a run-of-the-mill Polak/Uke.... Aint nothing spectacular about you

You fucking wish Turkey, if there was something runofthemill about my race I would tell you the truth, but you are just Turkish rat and you know what I am by now if you don't I will adjust my Avatar hold on Cousin, hold on look now

[Hajimurad]

Russian and Ukrainian cossacks aren't the same. Russian cossacks mainly descended from Don cossacks, whose ancestors came from Ryazan oblast. In XVII century Sevryuks (migrants from Chernigov) settled among them. They were influenced by Mishar Tatars and Circassians.
Ukrainian cossacks (Cherkasy) were formed from rebelled Rusyns (Ukrainians) and mercenaries from pauperized Polish szlachta. They were influenced by Crimean Tatars.

[War Chef]

You fucking wish Turkey, if there was something runofthemill about my race I would tell you the truth, but you are just Turkish rat and you know what I am by now if you don't I will adjust my Avatar hold on Cousin, hold on look now

:laugh:

[Cumansky]

Russian and Ukrainian cossacks aren't the same. Russian cossacks mainly descended from Don cossacks, whose ancestors came from Ryazan oblast. In XVII century Sevryuks (migrants from Chernigov) settled among them. They were influenced by Mishar Tatars and Circassians.
Ukrainian cossacks (Cherkasy) were formed from rebelled Rusyns (Ukrainians) and mercenaries from pauperized Polish szlachta. They were influenced by Crimean Tatars.

Is not that simple

[Cumansky]

:laugh:

Was that you in the app Origuess Turkmeni

You are not a Cuman, Cuman look like Russians Mongolid with Scythian pigmentation. You are Seljuk, you Sister is probably hot. There is nothing wrong with that Turk. Accept your race

[War Chef]

Was that you in the app Origuess Turkmeni

You are not a Cuman, Cuman look like Russians Mongolid with Scythian pigmentation. You are Seljuk, you Sister is probably hot. There is nothing wrong with that Turk

Your mother is a MILF by the way , I always wanted to say it. Now I can get it off my shoulders

Any more photos of her besides the classification thread? Nudes?

[Norb]

R1a?

[Cumansky]

Your mother is a MILF by the way , I always wanted to say it. Now I can get it off my shoulders

Any more photos of her besides the classification thread? Nudes?

I don't care you can't make me mad with this petty shit

My Mother is dead long time

[Leto]

Nothing special about them at all. Just like Ukrainians and your run-of-the-mill south Russians.
This.
I've noticed some obsession with the Cossacks. But there's not much mystery about them. In Russia they are included in the ethnic Russian people. In Ukraine in the Ukrainians, I guess.

[Cumansky]

R1a?

This is the main clade, some have Levantine E marker because we mixed with Jews that came from Ottoman Empire

[Özgür Adam]

Modern Genetics is not a reliable method for determining of distant ancestors

because racially Cossacks were mainly alpinids, dinarids, nordits, gorids, baltids, mestizos like southern euroupeoids + northern europeoids, pontids and they can be identical according to the genetic test but an absolute lie by subrace

[Cumansky]

Modern Genetics is not a reliable method for determining of distant ancestors

because racially Cossacks were mainly alpinids, dinarids, nordits, gorids, baltids, mestizos like southern euroupeoids + northern europeoids, pontids and they can be identical according to the genetic test but an absolute lie by subrace

You are right. Intelligent post

[Daos777]

Modern Genetics is not a reliable method for determining of distant ancestors

because racially Cossacks were mainly alpinids, dinarids, nordits, gorids, baltids, mestizos like southern euroupeoids + northern europeoids, pontids and they can be identical according to the genetic test but an absolute lie by subrace

So subrace/phenotype is the most important thing and not autosomal genetics? That doesn’t make sense in my mind. Because siblings can be of different phenotypes and obviously they are closely related to one another. In my mind autosomal genetics determines who you are more than anything else.

[Cumansky]

So subrace/phenotype is the most important thing and not autosomal genetics? That doesn’t make sense in my mind. Because siblings can be of different phenotypes and obviously they are closely related to one another. In my mind autosomal genetics determines who you are more than anything else.

I can't speak for him, in this site people are delusional so if they see in GEDmatch (Ukrainian=100% Balto Slavic stuff like that)

[Leto]

So subrace/phenotype is the most important thing and not autosomal genetics? That doesn’t make sense in my mind. Because siblings can be of different phenotypes and obviously they are closely related to one another. In my mind autosomal genetics determines who you are more than anything else.
Those subraces aren't even a real thing. A shitload of clueless people posting nonsense in the Classification section.

[Özgür Adam]

So subrace/phenotype is the most important thing and not autosomal genetics? That doesn’t make sense in my mind. Because siblings can be of different phenotypes and obviously they are closely related to one another. In my mind autosomal genetics determines who you are more than anything else.

This test DNA will determine the genetics of your parents well, but the ancestors who lived + 500-1000 years ago results will not be exact

Rasology is more to realistic than modern DNA tests.
You can trust your eyes and look at people who racial look like you.
You won’t be able to test your DNA test in the laboratory in any way and this causes critical thinking and distrust of these companies.

Ancestry DNA tests are possible in 50 years will be more objective but not today in 2020 when this industry is just fell developing

[asuvis]

Zaporozhian Cossack Academic Sample XN2475331

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 45.92
2 North_Atlantic 26.28
3 West_Med 9.62
4 East_Med 7.61
5 West_Asian 3.72
6 Siberian 2.72
7 South_Asian 2.32
8 Red_Sea 1.02
9 Amerindian 0.79

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 3.7
2 Estonian_Polish 4.53
3 Ukrainian 4.74
4 Russian_Smolensk 5.23
5 Belorussian 5.44
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.62
7 Polish 5.91
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.94
9 South_Polish 6.44
10 Kargopol_Russian 7.64
11 Lithuanian 9.61
12 Erzya 9.84
13 Estonian 9.91
14 Croatian 10.94
15 East_Finnish 11.31
16 Finnish 11.33
17 Southwest_Finnish 12.71
18 Moldavian 13.53
19 Hungarian 14.65
20 East_German 16.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.2% Estonian_Polish + 8.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.03
2 92.5% Estonian_Polish + 7.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.15
3 92.5% Estonian_Polish + 7.5% Italian_Jewish @ 2.16
4 93% Estonian_Polish + 7% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.23
5 92.6% Estonian_Polish + 7.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.23
6 93.7% Estonian_Polish + 6.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.24
7 93.2% Estonian_Polish + 6.8% Cyprian @ 2.25
8 93% Estonian_Polish + 7% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.26
9 93.9% Estonian_Polish + 6.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.27
10 93.8% Estonian_Polish + 6.2% Samaritan @ 2.28
11 89.5% Estonian_Polish + 10.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.3
12 92% Estonian_Polish + 8% South_Italian @ 2.33
13 91.5% Estonian_Polish + 8.5% East_Sicilian @ 2.35
14 91.3% Estonian_Polish + 8.7% Central_Greek @ 2.38
15 93.8% Estonian_Polish + 6.2% Palestinian @ 2.41
16 93.5% Estonian_Polish + 6.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.42
17 91.5% Estonian_Polish + 8.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.42
18 86.7% Estonian_Polish + 13.3% Bulgarian @ 2.47
19 93.6% Estonian_Polish + 6.4% Syrian @ 2.48
20 93.7% Estonian_Polish + 6.3% Jordanian @ 2.49

Zaporozhian Cossack Academic Sample ZU7033837

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.73
2 North_Atlantic 19.89
3 West_Asian 17
4 East_Med 14.19
5 West_Med 9.27
6 South_Asian 2.42
7 Amerindian 1.31
8 Red_Sea 1.14
9 Northeast_African 1.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 9.84
2 Croatian 12.16
3 Serbian 12.67
4 Romanian 13.16
5 Bulgarian 13.75
6 Hungarian 14.64
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.36
8 Ukrainian 16.62
9 South_Polish 16.66
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.78
11 Southwest_Russian 17.37
12 Austrian 19.03
13 Polish 19.35
14 Tatar 19.43
15 East_German 19.69
16 Russian_Smolensk 19.93
17 Estonian_Polish 20.86
18 Erzya 21.15
19 Kargopol_Russian 21.28
20 Belorussian 21.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.6% Lithuanian + 37.4% Armenian @ 2.12
2 71.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 28.4% Armenian @ 2.16
3 70.9% Southwest_Russian + 29.1% Armenian @ 2.56
4 68% Russian_Smolensk + 32% Armenian @ 2.65
5 67% Estonian_Polish + 33% Armenian @ 2.84
6 71.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 28.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.85
7 66.4% Belorussian + 33.6% Armenian @ 2.98
8 71.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 28.3% Assyrian @ 2.99
9 69.6% Southwest_Russian + 30.4% Kurdish @ 3.04
10 65.5% Estonian_Polish + 34.5% Kurdish @ 3.11
11 67.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 32.8% Turkish @ 3.17
12 70.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 29.6% Kurdish @ 3.24
13 70.6% Ukrainian + 29.4% Kurdish @ 3.29
14 66.6% Russian_Smolensk + 33.4% Kurdish @ 3.32
15 67.6% Russian_Smolensk + 32.4% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.32
16 68.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 31.8% Azeri @ 3.36
17 70.6% Southwest_Russian + 29.4% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.39
18 62.2% Lithuanian + 37.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.4
19 65% Belorussian + 35% Kurdish @ 3.45
20 67.3% Polish + 32.7% Kurdish @ 3.5

Zaporozhian Cossack (Buczacz)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 37.75
2 North_Atlantic 27.73
3 West_Med 13.05
4 East_Med 9.77
5 West_Asian 6.73
6 Siberian 3.07
7 Red_Sea 1.25
8 South_Asian 0.33
9 Oceanian 0.17
10 Sub-Saharan 0.12
11 East_Asian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.84
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.87
3 Moldavian 6.15
4 South_Polish 6.26
5 Ukrainian 6.78
6 Hungarian 7.16
7 Polish 9.78
8 Southwest_Russian 10.16
9 East_German 10.68
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.9
11 Austrian 11.37
12 Serbian 11.38
13 Russian_Smolensk 11.76
14 Estonian_Polish 12.09
15 Belorussian 12.62
16 Kargopol_Russian 13.9
17 Southwest_Finnish 14.76
18 Romanian 15.21
19 Erzya 16.06
20 Finnish 16.15

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.2% Southwest_Russian + 26.8% North_Italian @ 1.8
2 51.7% Estonian + 48.3% Bulgarian @ 1.89
3 51.5% Romanian + 48.5% Estonian @ 2.01
4 61.8% Estonian + 38.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.08
5 67.3% Estonian + 32.7% Central_Greek @ 2.08
6 69.9% Estonian + 30.1% South_Italian @ 2.21
7 51.6% Serbian + 48.4% Estonian_Polish @ 2.32
8 63.7% Ukrainian + 36.3% Serbian @ 2.36
9 68% Estonian + 32% East_Sicilian @ 2.39
10 59% Serbian + 41% Estonian @ 2.46
11 55.2% Serbian + 44.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.49
12 85.4% Croatian + 14.6% East_Finnish @ 2.5
13 75% Southwest_Russian + 25% Tuscan @ 2.54
14 82.5% Ukrainian + 17.5% Tuscan @ 2.56
15 76.4% Southwest_Russian + 23.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.58
16 88.1% South_Polish + 11.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.59
17 83.6% Ukrainian + 16.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.59
18 86% South_Polish + 14% Ashkenazi @ 2.61
19 84.2% Ukrainian + 15.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.61
20 60.6% Serbian + 39.4% Lithuanian @ 2.62

Mother Zaporozhian Cossack (Buczacz, Lviv)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 45.95
2 North_Atlantic 24.29
3 East_Med 11.25
4 West_Med 10.66
5 Sub-Saharan 3.08
6 West_Asian 1.7
7 Siberian 1.67
8 Red_Sea 0.72
9 Northeast_African 0.6
10 Oceanian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 7.64
2 Ukrainian 8.21
3 Estonian_Polish 8.47
4 Belorussian 9.04
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.11
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.22
7 Russian_Smolensk 9.39
8 South_Polish 9.55
9 Polish 9.7
10 Kargopol_Russian 11.8
11 Croatian 11.88
12 Lithuanian 12.74
13 Erzya 12.89
14 Estonian 13.73
15 Moldavian 14.05
16 East_Finnish 14.99
17 Finnish 15.08
18 Hungarian 15.87
19 Southwest_Finnish 16.28
20 East_German 18.34

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.4% Estonian_Polish + 11.6% Tunisian @ 5.43
2 87.4% Belorussian + 12.6% Tunisian @ 5.56
3 81.2% Lithuanian + 18.8% Tunisian @ 5.63
4 80.4% Lithuanian + 19.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.67
5 88.7% Estonian_Polish + 11.3% Algerian @ 5.68
6 88.9% Estonian_Polish + 11.1% Mozabite_Berber @ 5.7
7 88.2% Estonian_Polish + 11.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.71
8 89.8% Estonian_Polish + 10.2% Egyptian @ 5.71
9 86.5% Estonian_Polish + 13.5% Ashkenazi @ 5.77
10 77.7% Lithuanian + 22.3% Ashkenazi @ 5.78
11 87.8% Belorussian + 12.2% Mozabite_Berber @ 5.8
12 87.7% Belorussian + 12.3% Algerian @ 5.83
13 89.2% Estonian_Polish + 10.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.9
14 88.6% Estonian_Polish + 11.4% Italian_Jewish @ 5.91
15 89.2% Estonian_Polish + 10.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 5.92
16 87.3% Belorussian + 12.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.92
17 90.4% Estonian_Polish + 9.6% Samaritan @ 5.96
18 89.4% Estonian_Polish + 10.6% Moroccan @ 5.98
19 90.6% Estonian_Polish + 9.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.99
20 80.8% Lithuanian + 19.2% Italian_Jewish @ 6

What area does "Southwest_Russian" correspond with if you don't mind me asking. Can never find the population descriptions for this stuff. My mother always has it appear near the top of her results.

[Daos777]

What area does "Southwest_Russian" correspond with if you don't mind me asking. Can never find the population descriptions for this stuff. My mother always has it appear near the top of her results.

Probably Smolensk.

[asuvis]

Probably Smolensk.

Could very well be, she does get a lot of ukrainian ones a bit further south though.

[Daos777]

This test DNA will determine the genetics of your parents well, but the ancestors who lived + 500-1000 years ago results will not be exact

Rasology is more to realistic than modern DNA tests.
You can trust your eyes and look at people who racial look like you.
You won’t be able to test your DNA test in the laboratory in any way and this causes critical thinking and distrust of these companies.

Ancestry DNA tests are possible in 50 years will be more objective but not today in 2020 when this industry is just fell developing

There is truth to that but that’s also not 100 percent accurate either. My dad for example looks NOTHING like his brother. His brother looks like a Nordid German(he has two bro’s that look like that)one of them actually lives in Germany and the people think he is local and my dad looks nothing like that. His other bro looks like he can pass in Caucasus. I’ve seen this theory fall apart just from seeing my dads family he has 12 siblings and they all look different.

[Leto]

Probably Smolensk.
No. Rather Kursk and Oryol. You're obviously not from Russia originally 'cause Smolensk is near Belarus, west of Moscow and Kaluga. :)

[asuvis]

No. Rather Kursk and Oryol. You're obviously not from Russia originally 'cause Smolensk is near Belarus, west of Moscow and Kaluga. :)

That is more what I was thinking as well.

[Leto]

What area does "Southwest_Russian" correspond with if you don't mind me asking. Can never find the population descriptions for this stuff. My mother always has it appear near the top of her results.
Between Kursk and Voronezh oblasts.

[Özgür Adam]

There is truth to that but that’s also not 100 percent accurate either. My dad for example looks NOTHING like his brother. His brother looks like a Nordid German(he has two bro’s that look like that)one of them actually lives in Germany and the people think he is local and my dad looks nothing like that. His other bro looks like he can pass in Caucasus. I’ve seen this theory fall apart just from seeing my dads family he has 12 siblings and they all look different.


Yes, this is because people are mixed with representatives of another Sub Europeoid race. Metisation always leads to the fact that people are different

I'm sure your father have Mom and Dad are sub-racially different. If they were all, for example Pontids with brown-eyed, brunettes and oval face then you would not be surprised

[Leto]

This test DNA will determine the genetics of your parents well, but the ancestors who lived + 500-1000 years ago results will not be exact

Rasology is more to realistic than modern DNA tests.
You can trust your eyes and look at people who racial look like you.
You won’t be able to test your DNA test in the laboratory in any way and this causes critical thinking and distrust of these companies.

Ancestry DNA tests are possible in 50 years will be more objective but not today in 2020 when this industry is just fell developing
There is a guy here from Eastern Turkey called 'altaic'. He is genetically somewhere between Anatolian Turkey and Kurds. But he is light skinned, has light hair (including beard) and blue eyes. Does that mean he should go to Russia for example and say hey guys, I belong in this country, not in Turkey because most Turks are way swarthier than me? Lol, that's nonsense. I can say I'm a race realist in some way because I don't believe all human beings are essentially the same but that what you call 'rasology' is more than questionable.

[Cumansky]

What area does "Southwest_Russian" correspond with if you don't mind me asking. Can never find the population descriptions for this stuff. My mother always has it appear near the top of her results.

I think is Rostov, I get Donetsk and Rostov in 23andme

92558

92559

[Özgür Adam]

There is a guy here from Eastern Turkey called 'altaic'. He is genetically somewhere between Anatolian Turkey and Kurds. But he is light skinned, has light hair (including beard) and blue eyes. Does that mean he should go to Russia for example and say hey guys, I belong in this country, not in Turkey because most Turks are way swarthier than me? Lol, that's nonsense. I can say I'm a race realist in some way because I don't believe all human beings are essentially the same but that what you call 'rasology' is more than questionable.

I did not see his photos but I think he is Mestizo like Irano Nordit

http://ok-t.ru/lektsiopedia/baza/1061523359915.files/image084.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/16/article-0-18C0A6B500000578-464_964x681.jpg
https://sun9-35.userapi.com/c837728/v837728619/68153/UE3JiMQ0uBg.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b9/24/33/b92433a16394fea5b3d502053554676d.jpg

[asuvis]

I think is Rostov, I get Donetsk and Rostov in 23andme

92558

92559

Oh damn she gets both as well on 23andme, that makes sense too.

[Leto]

Oh damn she gets both as well on 23andme, that makes sense too.
Wait, your paternal line is I-M438, isn't it? I thought you were paternally Slavic. Georgians are mostly G2, J2 and a few others but not I2.

[asuvis]

Wait, your paternal line is I-M438, isn't it? I thought you were paternally Slavic. Georgians are mostly G2, J2 and a few others but not I2.

Meant grandmother not mother smh, don't know why I typed mother. I have tested 3/4 grandparents, and my father as well.

[Leto]

Meant grandmother not mother smh, don't know why I typed mother. I have tested 3/4 grandparents, and my father as well.
Do you have the Georgian side's results? GEDmatch with oracles. You can send it to me in a PM.

[asuvis]

Do you have the Georgian side's results? GEDmatch with oracles. You can send it to me in a PM.

Yep, I'll PM when done with work.

[asuvis]

Do you have the Georgian side's results? GEDmatch with oracles. You can send it to me in a PM.

Only have one Georgian grandparent tested though.

[Slavic Italian]

Kuban Cossack is a strong match for me in David's IBD Analysis.


Cossack_Kuban_GS000016186 8.407539
Cossack_Ukrainian_GS000035239 4.3521907
Cossack_Kuban_GS000035179 4.218072

[Dick]

R1a?

The three kits I posted are all R1a

[Sarmatian]

[B]Zaporozhian Cossack Academic Sample XN2475331
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Zaporozhian Cossack Academic Sample ZU7033837
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Zaporozhian Cossack (Buczacz)
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Mother Zaporozhian Cossack (Buczacz, Lviv)

Zaporozhian Cossacks in Buczacz and Lviv? Seriously? Is that some kind of a joke?

I assume all these samples from living people. In such case they have nothing to do with Cossacks. Because there are no Zaporozhian Cossacks alive today, they all ended in 18th century.

[Sarmatian]

R1a?

Mostly yes. Pretty much same as Central Russians with some neighboring Southern admixes. Only Terek Cossacks have strong G presence since they have been in contact with Ossetians and even accepted some into their ranks.

[Dick]

Zaporozhian Cossacks in Buczacz and Lviv? Seriously? Is that some kind of a joke?

I assume all these samples from living people. In such case they have nothing to do with Cossacks. Because there are no Zaporozhian Cossacks alive today, they all ended in 18th century.

Badass

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Ilja_Jefimowitsch_Repin_-_Reply_of_the_Zaporozhian_Cossacks_-_Yorck.jpg/1280px-Ilja_Jefimowitsch_Repin_-_Reply_of_the_Zaporozhian_Cossacks_-_Yorck.jpg

[Cumansky]

Zaporozhian Cossacks in Buczacz and Lviv? Seriously? Is that some kind of a joke?

I assume all these samples from living people. In such case they have nothing to do with Cossacks. Because there are no Zaporozhian Cossacks alive today, they all ended in 18th century.

Zaporozhian Cossack is my race look how mad you are. When you will learn border of Polish Commonwealth then you will know learn our race you peasant. We ended in 18th century we are still here, why we are still here if we ended in 18th century you poor bitch

[Dick]

Zaporozhian Cossack is my race look how mad you are. When you will learn border of Polish Commonwealth then you will know learn our race you peasant. We ended in 18th century we are still here, why we are still here if we ended in 18th century you poor bitch


Hammertownsky, your bullets from the ballsack is I2a-Din. I can claim to have Cossack or Sunghir I2a-Din Kievan Rus blood too but their seed is not what gave me life.

[Cumansky]

Hammertownsky, your bullets from the ballsack is I2a-Din. I can claim to have Cossack or Sunghir I2a-Din Kievan Rus blood too but their seed is not what gave me life.

What you said gosc, I don't understand

[Dick]

What you said gosc, I don't understand

pociski nasionko

[Sarmatian]

Zaporozhian Cossack is my race look how mad you are. When you will learn border of Polish Commonwealth then you will know learn our race you peasant. We ended in 18th century we are still here, why we are still here if we ended in 18th century you poor bitch

Cossacks are race now? Fascinating.

Cossacks were members of specific host (army). Zaporozhian Cossacks were members of Zaporozhian Host which was dismantled in 1755. All who wanted to remain Cossack had moved to either Black Sea Host (later transformed into Kuban Host) or Danubian Host (Danubian Sich).

Danubian Host was dismantled in 19th century. Kuban Host was dismantled in 20th century but being far larger entity its cultural elements survived to this day.

Yet even I, having my entire paternal side from Don and large part of maternal side from Kuban, growing in Kuban Steppe myself, won't claim to be a Cossack.

I'm descendant of Cossacks. And you're a clown.

PS: Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth had ceased to exist at 1795. There is Poland and there is Lithuania now. Both are independent countries. There is nothing else to learn. Deal with it.

[Özgür Adam]

Ancestors Zaporozhian Cossacks lived on Нижнє Подніпров'я. Today is regions Kirovograd, Dnepropetrovsk, Cherkasy (Central Ukraine) North Ukraine, South Ukraine, East Ukraine and Southern Russia is no longer the land of the Cossacks but this lands for expansion

http://irbis-nbuv.gov.ua/cgi-bin/UA/elib.exe?C21COM=2&I21DBN=UKRLIB&P21DBN=UKRLIB&Image_file_name=img/562406136613.jpg

[vbnetkhio]

Zaporozhian Cossacks in Buczacz and Lviv? Seriously? Is that some kind of a joke?

I assume all these samples from living people. In such case they have nothing to do with Cossacks. Because there are no Zaporozhian Cossacks alive today, they all ended in 18th century.

academic samples are from Zaporozhie and Kuban.
Buczacz and Buczacz/Lviv is Cumansky and his mother, he identifies as a Cossack

[Sarmatian]

academic samples are from Zaporozhie and Kuban.

It would be a mistake to identify entire present population of Zaparozhie as descendants of Cossacks. Only a fraction of population were Cossacks, majority were simple peaceful peasants. Majority of Cossacks had moved away. So I'm not even sure there is substantial trace of them could be found today.


Buczacz and Buczacz/Lviv is Cumansky and his mother, he identifies as a Cossack

He could identify as spaghetti monster or as 6yo black girl with same success.

[Cumansky]

Cossacks are race now? Fascinating.

Cossacks were members of specific host (army). Zaporozhian Cossacks were members of Zaporozhian Host which was dismantled in 1755. All who wanted to remain Cossack had moved to either Black Sea Host (later transformed into Kuban Host) or Danubian Host (Danubian Sich).

Danubian Host was dismantled in 19th century. Kuban Host was dismantled in 20th century but being far larger entity its cultural elements survived to this day.

Yet even I, having my entire paternal side from Don and large part of maternal side from Kuban, growing in Kuban Steppe myself, won't claim to be a Cossack.

I'm descendant of Cossacks. And you're a clown.

PS: Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth had ceased to exist at 1795. There is Poland and there is Lithuania now. Both are independent countries. There is nothing else to learn. Deal with it.

Cossacks are many races, Ok. So this topic is about Poland after all and not about Cossacks. You can try seperate Cossacks and Poland in your imagination, but that is all your imagination

Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth exist in me always, is my DNA code, the ones that escape Russian Siberia camps in 44-45 and shot Germans to survive keep our Polish Lithuanian blood until now, actually shot Germans in Montecassino not rapes their woman and drink vodka and swine for dessert in Prussia. I got DNA from your backyard are you mad. Yes you are mad but what can you do now?

What I am saying is tip of iceberg, there is so much I know about your people I can expose alot further than this, I am not interested in you as you are interested in me because you are at best, watered down version of Cumansky

[Cumansky]

academic samples are from Zaporozhie and Kuban.
Buczacz and Buczacz/Lviv is Cumansky and his mother, he identifies as a Cossack

Buczacz Lviv is my Mother, Buczacz is a Ukrainian close match from USA that has Cossack origin all ancestors from Buczacz

[Cumansky]

Cumansky Mother (Zaporozhian Cossack)

Population Percent
1 Baltic 45.95
2 North_Atlantic 24.29
3 East_Med 11.25
4 West_Med 10.66
5 Sub-Saharan 3.08
6 West_Asian 1.7
7 Siberian 1.67
8 Red_Sea 0.72
9 Northeast_African 0.6
10 Oceanian 0.09

Zaporozhian Cossack Academic Sample XN2475331

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 45.92
2 North_Atlantic 26.28
3 West_Med 9.62
4 East_Med 7.61
5 West_Asian 3.72
6 Siberian 2.72
7 South_Asian 2.32
8 Red_Sea 1.02
9 Amerindian 0.79

[Cumansky]

It would be a mistake to identify entire present population of Zaparozhie as descendants of Cossacks. Only a fraction of population were Cossacks, majority were simple peaceful peasants. Majority of Cossacks had moved away. So I'm not even sure there is substantial trace of them could be found today.



He could identify as spaghetti monster or as 6yo black girl with same success.

I heard Kuban Cossacks incorporate alot Volga Germans

Is ironic your Karma

[Cumansky]

pociski nasionko

I got alot more bullets than the Balkaners, but I got some very old Balkan bullets that the Balkaners might not have

[Cumansky]

Since we are doing a riddles..

[altaic]

kuban cossack dedushka


Cool. You look Russki as fcuk.


Bright future!
https://i.ibb.co/tsd2RWy/download-20190810-213915-1.jpg

[Sche]

G25 Euro
Here
https://i.ibb.co/QMVpZyF/123ko.jpg

[Sarmatian]

Cossacks are many races, Ok. So this topic is about Poland after all and not about Cossacks. You can try seperate Cossacks and Poland in your imagination, but that is all your imagination

Thread name: Cossack Genetics. Mkay...


Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth exist in me always, is my DNA code, the ones that escape Russian Siberia camps in 44-45 and shot Germans to survive keep our Polish Lithuanian blood until now, actually shot Germans in Montecassino not rapes their woman and drink vodka and swine for dessert in Prussia. I got DNA from your backyard are you mad. Yes you are mad but what can you do now?

That's some hardcore stuff you're smoking. Too hardcore for me.


What I am saying is tip of iceberg, there is so much I know about your people I can expose alot further than this, I am not interested in you as you are interested in me because you are at best, watered down version of Cumansky

Am I really interested in some clown on interwebs? Sure, if you trying to claim the name of my ancestral culture to yourself in your delusions, I am quite interested in exposing you as a clown. Go ahead, expose something about my people. I feel like having piece of scary truth today.

[Cumansky]

Thread name: Cossack Genetics. Mkay...



That's some hardcore stuff you're smoking. Too hardcore for me.



Am I really interested in some clown on interwebs? Sure, if you trying to claim the name of my ancestral culture to yourself in your delusions, I am quite interested in exposing you as a clown. Go ahead, expose something about my people. I feel like having piece of scary truth today.

Name of your Ancestral Culture lol, this is my family name

[vbnetkhio]

Name of your Ancestral Culture lol, this is my family name

so you have Polish origins from your father's side, Zaporozhian Cossack from your mother's, and also some Vlach(Romanian)?

[Cumansky]

so you have Polish origins from your father's side, Zaporozhian Cossack from your mother's, and also some Vlach(Romanian)?

Vlach Romanian is Polish, from Carpathian Ukraine (Ivano Frankivsk, former Poland) because Vlachs from Romania (former Kingdom of Hungary, Romania is created in 19th century, Poland in 10th century) were the Kings and Nobility Class of Poland in Middle Age

My Mother is from Zaporozhian Cossacks a free people, left nation less, living in Polish side of boundary. The Cossacks were mixed people they take alot more minority into their ranks. The Szlachta (Polish Noble Class) in Ivano Frankivsk that is only 7% of population before 1939 in Ivano Frankivsk my Father people. They only marry their own and whatever is there DNA in middle age it hasn't changed much until now because they keep taking their own for marriage. I am first one removed from "Kings Class" because my Father took wife with no ties to Polish Nobility