TKM K15 Regional Calculator V1.0

[Thracian]

Before I introduce my calculator, I must thank Kaspias for his valuable helps.

My aim was to determine Turkic admixture in Balkan and Anatolian Turks. After that I decided to make bigger and more efficient calculator. This one is the first step. It contains samples from Central Asia to Balkans. I will develop and add more samples in the future for rest of Europe, Asia and Africa. I will share spreadsheet later yet components and samples are listed below,

Iranic:Included Fars, Zoroastrian, Mazandari, Lor and a few samples of Seyyed. Excluded Bandari and outlier samples of Seyyed
Mesopotamian: Included Assyrians, excluded Kurds because of their Iranic admixture
Caucasian:Georgian_Imer
Western_Anatolian: Included Greek_Smyrna, excluded Greek_Phokia because of outlier samples
Central_Anatolian: Included Greek_Anatolian_Center, excluded Cypriots because of samples were not homogeneous
Eastern_Anatolian:Armenians
Southwestern_Slavic: Croatian, Bosniak, Montenegrin and Serb
Southeastern_Slavic: Provided individuals by Kaspias
Greek_Islander: Included Greek_Kos and Greek_Crete, excluded outlier Cretan samples
Greek_North: Excluded Greek samples with very small distance to South Slavs and longer distance to Greeks
Greek_South:Excluded all outlier samples
Turkic:Included, DA, Turkmens, Uzbeks, Nogai, excluded outlier samples from these countries.
Albanian:Albanians
NOT:Greeks and Albanian users can be modeled as Greek or Albanian due to both populations have similar admixture. You can consider it Greek if you are a Greek or Albanian if you are an Albanian.

Appreciated for feedback.

Some USER samples are listed below, except few I copy/pasted coordinates from TA so let me know if you want to remove your results,


[1] "distance%=1.4491"

Thracian_scaled

SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,36.4
GREEK_NORTH,33.4
IRANIC,11.8
TURKIC,7.6
SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,5.2
GREEK_SOUTH,3.8
LEVANT,0.8
EASTERN_ANATOLIAN,0.4
CAUCASIAN,0.2
GREEK_ISLANDER,0.2
MESOPOTAMIAN,0.2



[1] "distance%=2.1498"

Kaspias_scaled

SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,50.6
TURKIC,22.2
GREEK_NORTH,14
IRANIC,8.8
GREEK_SOUTH,3.6
LEVANT,0.6
GREEK_ISLANDER,0.2


[1] "distance%=2.3031"

Deniz

SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,64.2
GREEK_SOUTH,10.2
TURKIC,7.2
SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,5.4
IRANIC,4.6
GREEK_ISLANDER,3
GREEK_NORTH,2.2
LEVANT,1
CAUCASIAN,0.6
CENTRAL_ANATOLIAN,0.6
EASTERN_ANATOLIAN,0.4
WESTERN_ANATOLIAN,0.4
NORTHEASTERN_ANATOLIAN,0.2


[1] "distance%=1.9362"

Karakartal_Dad_scaled

SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,41.4
GREEK_NORTH,33.2
TURKIC,9.4
GREEK_SOUTH,6.2
IRANIC,5.8
NORTHEASTERN_ANATOLIAN,1.4
GREEK_ISLANDER,0.6
LEVANT,0.6
SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,0.6
CAUCASIAN,0.4
CENTRAL_ANATOLIAN,0.2
EASTERN_ANATOLIAN,0.2



[1] "distance%=2.4134"

Karakartal_mom_scaled

GREEK_NORTH,33.4
IRANIC,23.6
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,19.4
GREEK_SOUTH,9.6
TURKIC,9.2
SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,2
LEVANT,1.2
GREEK_ISLANDER,1
MESOPOTAMIAN,0.6



[1] "distance%=2.0113"

Karakartal_scaled

GREEK_NORTH,31.8
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,31
GREEK_SOUTH,13.8
IRANIC,10.2
TURKIC,8.8
GREEK_ISLANDER,1
NORTHEASTERN_ANATOLIAN,1
CAUCASIAN,0.6
LEVANT,0.6
MESOPOTAMIAN,0.6
SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,0.4
CENTRAL_ANATOLIAN,0.2



[1] "distance%=2.2846"

Impaler_scaled

SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,70.4
GREEK_NORTH,8.4
TURKIC,7.4
IRANIC,6.6
GREEK_SOUTH,3.2
GREEK_ISLANDER,1.2
LEVANT,1.2
SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,0.8
CAUCASIAN,0.4
MESOPOTAMIAN,0.2
NORTHEASTERN_ANATOLIAN,0.2



[1] "distance%=1.5303"

Markos_scaled

GREEK_SOUTH,43.8
GREEK_ISLANDER,30.4
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,13.4
WESTERN_ANATOLIAN,6.8
GREEK_NORTH,3.6
IRANIC,0.8
CAUCASIAN,0.6
CENTRAL_ANATOLIAN,0.4
TURKIC,0.2





[1] "distance%=1.7338"

Xripkan_scaled

GREEK_SOUTH,43.2
ALBANIAN,35.4
GREEK_ISLANDER,9
GREEK_NORTH,4.2
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,3.8
TURKIC,1.6
WESTERN_ANATOLIAN,1.6
LEVANT,0.6
CENTRAL_ANATOLIAN,0.2
IRANIC,0.2
MESOPOTAMIAN,0.2

If I remove Albanian than Xripkan has Greeks instead of Albanians

[1] "distance%=1.7797"

Xripkan_scaled

GREEK_SOUTH,62.2
GREEK_NORTH,18.4
GREEK_ISLANDER,8.8
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,6.4
WESTERN_ANATOLIAN,2.2
TURKIC,1.4
CENTRAL_ANATOLIAN,0.2
EASTERN_ANATOLIAN,0.2
SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,0.2


[1] "distance%=1.7053"

Ylla_scaled

GREEK_SOUTH,63.4
ALBANIAN,31.8
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,3
GREEK_NORTH,1.8



[1] "distance%=2.3874"

MagnusDark_scaled

GREEK_SOUTH,44.4
GREEK_NORTH,43.8
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,11.8

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Very interested/ 10.

[Thracian]

SS

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T9LjZYHlwTRGLK5iOl9lzFl-somUJ_hm/view?usp=sharing



[1] "distance%=0.0057"

Bulgarian

SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,99.6
SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,0.2
WESTERN_ANATOLIAN,0.2



[1] "distance%=1.6697"

Turkish_Balkans

SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,69.6
TURKIC,10.2
IRANIC,7.2
GREEK_NORTH,6.2
GREEK_SOUTH,1.6
GREEK_ISLANDER,1.4
SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,1.4
CAUCASIAN,0.6
CENTRAL_ANATOLIAN,0.4
LEVANT,0.4
MESOPOTAMIAN,0.4
NORTHEASTERN_ANATOLIAN,0.4
EASTERN_ANATOLIAN,0.2


[1] "distance%=1.5746"

Turkish_Central

IRANIC,35.4
TURKIC,15.4
GREEK_ISLANDER,11
NORTHEASTERN_ANATOLIAN,8.6
GREEK_SOUTH,6.8
CENTRAL_ANATOLIAN,4
GREEK_NORTH,3.8
LEVANT,3.6
EASTERN_ANATOLIAN,3.2
MESOPOTAMIAN,3
CAUCASIAN,2.2
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,2.2
WESTERN_ANATOLIAN,0.6
ALBANIAN,0.2



[1] "distance%=2.1069"

Turkish_North

TURKIC,38
IRANIC,23
GREEK_ISLANDER,8.6
NORTHEASTERN_ANATOLIAN,6.8
GREEK_SOUTH,5.4
GREEK_NORTH,4.2
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,3.4
EASTERN_ANATOLIAN,2.4
CAUCASIAN,2
LEVANT,2
CENTRAL_ANATOLIAN,1.4
WESTERN_ANATOLIAN,1.4
MESOPOTAMIAN,0.8
SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,0.4
ALBANIAN,0.2



[1] "distance%=1.463"

Turkish_Northwest

TURKIC,35.6
IRANIC,19.6
GREEK_ISLANDER,11
GREEK_SOUTH,9.6
GREEK_NORTH,7.4
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,5.4
NORTHEASTERN_ANATOLIAN,3.2
CENTRAL_ANATOLIAN,2.2
CAUCASIAN,2
LEVANT,1.2
SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,1.2
MESOPOTAMIAN,1
ALBANIAN,0.2
EASTERN_ANATOLIAN,0.2
WESTERN_ANATOLIAN,0.2


[1] "distance%=0.8243"

Turkish_Trabzon

NORTHEASTERN_ANATOLIAN,79
CENTRAL_ANATOLIAN,10.2
EASTERN_ANATOLIAN,3.6
GREEK_ISLANDER,3
MESOPOTAMIAN,2.4
LEVANT,0.8
GREEK_SOUTH,0.6
GREEK_NORTH,0.4




[1] "distance%=1.7566"

Turkish_South

TURKIC,44.2
IRANIC,28
GREEK_ISLANDER,6.2
GREEK_SOUTH,5.4
GREEK_NORTH,3.4
LEVANT,2.6
CAUCASIAN,2
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,2
EASTERN_ANATOLIAN,1.8
NORTHEASTERN_ANATOLIAN,1.6
CENTRAL_ANATOLIAN,1
MESOPOTAMIAN,1
WESTERN_ANATOLIAN,0.8


[1] "distance%=1.7552"

Turkish_Southwest

TURKIC,36.4
IRANIC,26.2
GREEK_ISLANDER,11.6
GREEK_SOUTH,5.6
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,4.8
GREEK_NORTH,4.4
LEVANT,3.4
CENTRAL_ANATOLIAN,1.8
SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,1.8
NORTHEASTERN_ANATOLIAN,1.2
CAUCASIAN,1
MESOPOTAMIAN,0.8
ALBANIAN,0.6
EASTERN_ANATOLIAN,0.2
WESTERN_ANATOLIAN,0.2



[1] "distance%=1.2176"

Cypriot

LEVANT,59.4
GREEK_ISLANDER,35.8
CENTRAL_ANATOLIAN,4.8



[1] "distance%=2.8706"

Greek:GREEKGRALPOP15

GREEK_SOUTH,48.8
GREEK_NORTH,25
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,24.6
SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,1.2
TURKIC,0.4



[1] "distance%=2.1976"

Croatian:Croatia_Cro133

SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,97.8
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,2.2

[WeirdLookingFellow]

https://puu.sh/EDoCv/ce234ab59f.png

When adding German:

https://puu.sh/EDoGG/bc9f5d8d4f.png

[andre]

Someone could run my coordinates please?
Andrei_scaled,0.122929,0.137096,0.039598,0.005168, 0.028313,-0.000558,0.008695,0.004846,-0.004295,0.00656,-0.001137,-0.002398,0.00669,0.018992,-0.018594,-0.011933,-0.011474,0.010008,0.00817,-0.012881,-0.00574,-0.000124,0.002958,-0.002048,-0.001916

[Thracian]

https://puu.sh/EDoCv/ce234ab59f.png

When adding German:

https://puu.sh/EDoGG/bc9f5d8d4f.png

What do you think about your result? What about for pen=0.001?

[Thracian]

Someone could run my coordinates please?
Andrei_scaled,0.122929,0.137096,0.039598,0.005168, 0.028313,-0.000558,0.008695,0.004846,-0.004295,0.00656,-0.001137,-0.002398,0.00669,0.018992,-0.018594,-0.011933,-0.011474,0.010008,0.00817,-0.012881,-0.00574,-0.000124,0.002958,-0.002048,-0.001916

Sure. Here,


[1] "distance%=1.81"

Andrei_scaled

SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,90
SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,5.2
GREEK_SOUTH,3
ALBANIAN,0.8
GREEK_NORTH,0.6
GREEK_ISLANDER,0.2
WESTERN_ANATOLIAN,0.2

[Luke35]

Certainly not an ideal calculator for my mix, but here's how I shake out on it using VahaduoJS:

Distance: 2.7711% / 0.02771082
Aggregated
92.4 SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC
4.2 GREEK_SOUTH
3.4 TURKIC

[celticdragongod]

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC:Croatian
0.5496953
SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC:Bosnian
0.6453772
SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC:Montenegrin
0.6838974
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC:D
0.7223953
SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC:Serbian
0.7235670
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC:J
0.7475044
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC:C
0.7950833
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC:P
0.8206002
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC:K
0.8260029
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC:N
0.8331720
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC:B
0.8634963
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC:L
0.8751728
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC:A
0.8965653
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC:G
0.9476656
GREEK_NORTH:Greek_GreeceNE11
0.9650548
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC:M
0.9675153
GREEK_SOUTH:Greek_GREEKGRALPOP8
0.9806984
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC:F
1.0096583
GREEK_SOUTH:Greek_GREEKGRALPOP11
1.0113431
GREEK_SOUTH:Greek_GreeceNE144
1.0329019
GREEK_SOUTH:Greek_GreeceNE162
1.0356145
GREEK_SOUTH:Greek_GREEKGRALPOP17
1.0361115
ALBANIAN:Albanian
1.0409842
GREEK_SOUTH:Greek_NA17373
1.0466469
GREEK_SOUTH:Greek_NA17377
1.0596532
GREEK_NORTH:Greek_GreeceNE126
1.0836674
GREEK_SOUTH:Greek_GREEKGRALPOP3
1.0852802
GREEK_SOUTH:Greek_GREEKGRALPOP14
1.0963229
GREEK_SOUTH:Greek_GREEKGRALPOP9
1.1063630
GREEK_NORTH:Greek_GREEKGRALPOP5
1.1197019
GREEK_NORTH:Greek_GREEKGRALPOP10
1.1245513
GREEK_NORTH:Greek_GreeceF28k
1.1511410
GREEK_SOUTH:Greek_GREEKGRALPOP4
1.1738020
GREEK_NORTH:Greek_GreeceNE252
1.2117862
GREEK_SOUTH:Greek_GreeceNE231
1.2504494
GREEK_SOUTH:Greek_GreeceNE209
1.2687021
WESTERN_ANATOLIAN:Greek_Smyrna
1.2831642
GREEK_SOUTH:Greek_GreeceF51k
1.2906925
GREEK_SOUTH:Greek_GreeceF69k
1.3626095
GREEK_ISLANDER:Greek_Crete_Crete8
1.3991199
GREEK_ISLANDER:Greek_Crete_Crete2
1.4098876
GREEK_ISLANDER:Greek_Crete_Crete3
1.4225635
GREEK_ISLANDER:Greek_Crete_Crete6
1.4683240
GREEK_ISLANDER:Greek_Crete_B_Crete-2
1.4773065
GREEK_ISLANDER:Greek_Crete_Crete5
1.5040411
GREEK_ISLANDER:Greek_Crete_Crete4
1.5080798
GREEK_ISLANDER:Greek_Crete_Crete9
1.5152704
GREEK_ISLANDER:Greek_Crete_Crete10
1.5399883
GREEK_ISLANDER:Greek_Kos
1.5541837
GREEK_ISLANDER:Greek_Crete_Crete7
1.5592173
GREEK_ISLANDER:Greek_Crete_NA17376
1.5604363
CENTRAL_ANATOLIAN:Greek_Central_Anatolia
1.7309437
IRANIC:Iranian_Zoroastrian
1.8520201
IRANIC:Iranian_Seyyed_SHII51
1.8936507
IRANIC:Iranian_Seyyed_SHII72
1.8974845
IRANIC:Iranian_Fars
1.8976055
LEVANT:Druze
1.9061691
IRANIC:Iranian_Seyyed_SHII91
1.9069636
NORTHEASTERN_ANATOLIAN:Greek_Trabzon
1.9095020
EASTERN_ANATOLIAN:Armenian
1.9191622
IRANIC:Iranian_Seyyed_SHII66
1.9433022
IRANIC:Iranian_Seyyed_SHII87
1.9507784
IRANIC:Iranian_Lor
1.9596753
LEVANT:Palestinian_HGDP00688
1.9603540
IRANIC:Iranian_Seyyed_SHII20
1.9669579
TURKIC:OGHUZ_Anatolia_Ottoman_MA2196
1.9684391
MESOPOTAMIAN:Assyrian
1.9716043
IRANIC:Iranian_Seyyed_SHII37
1.9861349
NORTHEASTERN_ANATOLIAN:Armenian_Hemsheni
1.9864483
CAUCASIAN:Georgian_Imer
2.0152370
IRANIC:Iranian_Mazandarani
2.0659545
LEVANT:Palestinian_HGDP00675
2.0828671
IRANIC:Iranian_Seyyed_SHII25
2.0982947
TURKIC:OGHUZ_Turkmen_UZB111_turkmen
2.1999414
TURKIC:OGHUZ_DA
2.2438768
TURKIC:OGHUZ_Turkmen_UZB102_turkmen
2.2663961
TURKIC:OGHUZ_UZB150_turkmen
2.3609967
TURKIC:OGHUZ_UZB180_turkmen
2.5025126
TURKIC:OGHUZ_Uzbek
2.7684275
TURKIC:Nogai
3.1266502

[1] "2. FULL TABLE nMONTE"
[1] "penalty= 0"
[1] "Ncycles= 1000"

[1] "distance%=5.497"

cdg_scaled

SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,100

[1] "2. FULL TABLE nMONTE"
[1] "penalty= 0.001"
[1] "Ncycles= 1000"

[1] "distance%=5.497"

cdg_scaled

SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,100

[Mingle]

Looks good. Did you use individual samples or averages?

What does TKM stand for?

[Daos777]

Target: yo_scaled
Distance: 4.1477% / 0.04147673
Aggregated
94.0SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC
5.6TURKIC
0.4SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC

[WeirdLookingFellow]

What do you think about your result? What about for pen=0.001?

I was wondering about seeing this with pen 0.001, but vahudao doesn't have it. Could you run it for me with pen applied, please? Maybe even add the German average to see if the fit improves.


WeirdFellow_scaled,0.114961,0.131003,0.04186,0.016 15,0.031698,0.005857,0.00846,0.003692,-0.000818,0.006925,-0.005684,0.006145,-0.003865,0.014726,-0.013708,0.005436,0.003781,0.00038,0.004274,0.0012 51,0.001996,0.001855,0,0.005904,-0.006347

[talombo]

"penalty= 0"
"distance%=2.4293"

GREEK_ISLANDER,53.4
LEVANT,44.6
GREEK_SOUTH,2

[Thracian]

Looks good. Did you use individual samples or averages?

What does TKM stand for?

I excluded outlier samples, that's why I generally used individuals. I also used averages if all samples look homogeneous.

T for Thracian, K for Kaspias and M for Modern (I did not use ancient samples).

[Thracian]

I was wondering about seeing this with pen 0.001, but vahudao doesn't have it. Could you run it for me with pen applied, please? Maybe even add the German average to see if the fit improves.


WeirdFellow_scaled,0.114961,0.131003,0.04186,0.016 15,0.031698,0.005857,0.00846,0.003692,-0.000818,0.006925,-0.005684,0.006145,-0.003865,0.014726,-0.013708,0.005436,0.003781,0.00038,0.004274,0.0012 51,0.001996,0.001855,0,0.005904,-0.006347

Without Germans


[1] "distance%=2.0281"

WeirdFellow_scaled

SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,66
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,31
GREEK_SOUTH,1.6
TURKIC,1.4

With Germans


[1] "distance%=1.923"

WeirdFellow_scaled

SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,52.4
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,30
GERMENIC,13
GREEK_SOUTH,2.2
TURKIC,1.4
ALBANIAN,0.8
GREEK_NORTH,0.2

[Thracian]

double post.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Without Germans


[1] "distance%=2.0281"

WeirdFellow_scaled

SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,66
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,31
GREEK_SOUTH,1.6
TURKIC,1.4

With Germans


[1] "distance%=1.923"

WeirdFellow_scaled

SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,52.4
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,30
GERMENIC,13
GREEK_SOUTH,2.2
TURKIC,1.4
ALBANIAN,0.8
GREEK_NORTH,0.2

Thanks a lot. That 13 Germanic hits the spot on the possible 1/8th German, tho it's worth checking this compared to the Romanian average.

[Mingle]

I excluded outlier samples, that's why I generally used individuals. I also used averages if all samples look homogeneous.

T for Thracian, K for Kaspias and M for Modern (I did not use ancient samples).I would suggest merging the Greek and Albanian components into one named something like "South Balkan" (since they overlap) and also add a Romani component as well.

[Thracian]

Thanks a lot. That 13 Germanic hits the spot on the possible 1/8th German, tho it's worth checking this compared to the Romanian average.

Here is the Romanian average,


[1] "distance%=0.4867"

Romanian

SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,56.6
SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC,26.6
GERMENIC,6.2
GREEK_SOUTH,6
GREEK_NORTH,1.8
TURKIC,1.4
ALBANIAN,0.8
GREEK_ISLANDER,0.6


You have significantly more Germanic than the average for this calculator. The results can be changed with adding new samples from Romania, Moldova, Eastern Europe and Central Europe.

[Thracian]

I would suggest merging the Greek and Albanian components into one named something like "South Balkan" (since they overlap) and also add a Romani component as well.

I agree with you. What about Greek_North? They should stay separately? Or add them in this group as well?

Actually, I was curios about the Romani admixture as well. Because of their European ancestry, some people can have partly false Romani. That's why adding samples from South Asia could be better to determine Romani ancestry, IMO.

[Bakha]

Distance: 2.3936% / 0.02393607
Aggregated
41.4SOUTHEASTERN_SLAVIC
36.6TURKIC
16.2SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC
5.8IRANIC

[Cumansky]

How do you run it

[Thracian]

How do you run it

Do you mean running it with R?

-You should download R (https://www.r-project.org/)
-You also should download nMonte3.R or 1 and 2 as well. (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1iaggxyc2alafow/AACIjLtnkuaNNsJ5oKME_3XHa?dl=0)
-You should make a txt file for target. You also should source that I posted in first page. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T9LjZYHlwTRGLK5iOl9lzFl-somUJ_hm/view)
-Double click on R, change dir (change with where you saved your target and source files)
-Then copy and paste commands are listed below,

source('nMonte3.R')
getMonte('TKMK15.txt', 'yourfile.txt')

Not: yourfile.txt should be same format as TKMK15.txt, Just like this,

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Cumansky_, YourCoordinates.

[Cumansky]

That instruction will probably help someone but I have no computer access for R program

Can someone run it maybe 100% Southeastern Slavic?

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Cumansky_scaled,0.12862,0.125926,0.06939,0.056202, 0.037545,0.019801,0.00658,0.011076,-0.000205,-0.017859,-0.004872,-0.007943,0.017988,0.017891,-0.013843,0.01127,0.02373,-0.000887,-0.001508,0.009379,-0.006364,-0.002102,0.005423,0.000361,0.000718

[Thracian]

That instruction will probably help someone but I have no computer access for R program

Can someone run it maybe 100% Southeastern Slavic?


Alright. Here,


[1] "distance%=4.728"

Cumansky_scaled

SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,99.6
TURKIC,0.4


The fit is quite higher. You will get better fits after adding some Eastern and Western Slavic samples.

[Mingle]

I agree with you. What about Greek_North? They should stay separately? Or add them in this group as well?

Actually, I was curios about the Romani admixture as well. Because of their European ancestry, some people can have partly false Romani. That's why adding samples from South Asia could be better to determine Romani ancestry, IMO.I'd combine Greek_North, Greek_South, and Albanian into one category called South_Balkan.

The Romani ancestry would be lower than usual if you use a South Asian, but it would avoid the issue of people wrongly getting minor Roma due to the Balkan DNA among Romas. Using South Asian samples would result in their hypothetical Roma admixture being underestimated but it would at least set a minimum baseline.

[Cumansky]

Alright. Here,


[1] "distance%=4.728"

Cumansky_scaled

SOUTHWESTERN_SLAVIC,99.6
TURKIC,0.4


The fit is quite higher. You will get better fits after adding some Eastern and Western Slavic samples.

Nice calc lol

[Thracian]

I'd combine Greek_North, Greek_South, and Albanian into one category called South_Balkan.

The Romani ancestry would be lower than usual if you use a South Asian, but it would avoid the issue of people wrongly getting minor Roma due to the Balkan DNA among Romas. Using South Asian samples would result in their hypothetical Roma admixture being underestimated but it would at least set a minimum baseline.

I can combine them as you suggested.

Usually, full Roma people are modeled as half Balkan and half South Asian. Maybe multiplying South Asian score by 2 could be better. For example, if someone gets 6% of South Asian, s/he can consider it like 12.5% Roma ancestry. What populations do you recommend for South Asian to represent Roma?