Do Somalis look different from other Africans?

[MiloshN]

A couple of people have told me that Somalis look different from other Africans? Except for black leather ...

[asuvis]

Yes, very much so. had the opportunity to spend time around them for 6 months pretty in depth. They look like pretty much no other African country.

[Smeagol]

Yes, they're half Middle eastern Caucasoid like Ethiopians.

[luc2112]

Are hamitas (Caucasians), but some have more mutation for desert heat. Curly hair, thick lips, skin color, etc..

[♥ Lily ♥]

Yes, very noticeably different.

Iman was the Somali supermodel wife of David Bowie.
https://imgs.smoothradio.com/images/68742?crop=16_9&width=660&relax=1&signature=CeoelaicWdCmDnHmoQH-0H7ymbQ=
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7192244.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/PAY-David-Bowie-and-his-wife-Iman.jpg

Iman was hired to play an ancient Egyptian queen in Michael Jackson's music video 'Remember The Time'.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4b/d5/92/4bd59261ed909294cc0558af57788350.jpg

My half English and half Saint Lucian son has a half-sister and a half-brother who are half Saint Lucian and half Somali. His very thin half sister is pretty. They're being culturally raised and educated in the UK by their Catholic Saint Lucian father who is against genital mutilation, and they're not being raised as muslims like their mother was in Somalia. Their Somali mother has been left severely mentally troubled and traumatised as a result of being mutilated as a child in Somalia after having her genitals removed with a razor blade.

Somalia is a muslim nation and so an extremely high percentage of Somali females suffer from the very cruel and sadistic practice of genital mutilation in their childhood which leads to life-long trauma, mental problems, alcoholism, etc.

Somalia has one of the world's highest rates of gential mutilation;- 98% of girls in Somalia have been cruelly mutilated in their childhood.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/sep/17/somalia-under-renewed-scrutiny-over-female-genital-mutilation-after-two-more-young-girls-die


I really think this issue of FGM needs to be addressed by Amnesty International and UNICEF and other organisations as it's extremely cruel and unnatural to painfully mutilate children.

[TheMaestro]

In difference of other Africans imo, the have long and somehow triangular face, Barkhad Abdi type

[Celestia]

Absolutely
They tend to have thinner and longer faces and doe like eyes. They can be awfully pretty.

[KingOf]

African American NBAer Lou Williams always looked Somali to me...
Exotic ?

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/4OIjQcpjW6GpwLF3FegbRpynarI=/0x0:7367x5228/1200x800/filters:focal(3147x1024:4325x2202)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/60180897/usa_today_10774260.0.jpg
https://www.sgvtribune.com/wp-content/uploads/migration/2017/201707/SPORTS_170719460_AR_0_PGBLHRKLXRUZ.jpg?w=535

[Celestia]

African American NBAer Lou Williams always looked Somali to me...
Exotic ?

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/4OIjQcpjW6GpwLF3FegbRpynarI=/0x0:7367x5228/1200x800/filters:focal(3147x1024:4325x2202)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/60180897/usa_today_10774260.0.jpg
https://www.sgvtribune.com/wp-content/uploads/migration/2017/201707/SPORTS_170719460_AR_0_PGBLHRKLXRUZ.jpg?w=535

He certainly looks Eastern African.
Could also be from the Caribbean.

[luc2112]

https://www.hiiraan.com/images/2014/Sept/Somali_Women660.jpg

Heat mutation

https://models.tel/img/styles/large/public/anok-yai_model_2.jpg

[TheOldNorth]

they have some mid eastern admixture, this is called the ethiopoid type

[TheOldNorth]

they always have either blacks or whites playing egyptians, just hire some damn Copts, they are the literal descendants of egyptians

[luc2112]

they always have either blacks or whites playing egyptians, just hire some damn Copts, they are the literal descendants of egyptians

Yes more the Egyptians were lighter, they used Nubian soldiers (black Caucasians) who even put a one Pharaoh in power, then Egyptians regained power.
SSA-Bantu have never been to ancient Egypt.

[♥ Lily ♥]

they always have either blacks or whites playing egyptians, just hire some damn Copts, they are the literal descendants of egyptians

Yeah, the whole music video looks strange with Michael Jackson choosing west African looking people being chosen to play ancient Egyptians in his music video based on ancient Egypt.
https://grownfolksmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Remember-The-Time-michael-jackson-11204899-709-530.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0qCvfC5LMgg/hqdefault.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeiFF0gvqcc

(It's like MJ's close friend Elizabeth Taylor playing Cleopatra in another movie - that wasn't realistic either.)

However I think the late David Bowie's Somali wife Iman looks similar to this bust of the ancient Egyptian Queen Nefertiti.
https://historicaleve.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/56627426_1196738543818359_6776100620781748224_n-960x675.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6f/ed/7d/6fed7da41a3ce4fc6f1f40af4b21f7a6.jpg

[♥ Lily ♥]

There used to be a Somali poster in Canada on TA called 'Wadaad' who had chiseled features and a very Somali appearance. They have a distinct look from other African nations.

[Armenian Bishop]

Somalis are East African People, and they don't look like Sub Saharan West Africans. A slimmer build that does well for track and field races. Somalis seem to have a darker complexion than do Ethiopians, Egyptians and Sudanese -- seems so.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Somali people: https://www.google.com/search?q=somali+people&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiA4a-EvOPlAhUkpHEKHeUkBj0Q_AUIESgB&biw=1277&bih=651#imgrc=_

I think they look closest to Ethiopians.

[Abdelnour]

There used to be a Somali poster in Canada on TA called 'Wadaad' who had chiseled features and a very Somali appearance. They have a distinct look from other African nations.

I miss Wadaad. Dunno what he did to got him banned.

[Kamal900]

they always have either blacks or whites playing egyptians, just hire some damn Copts, they are the literal descendants of egyptians

So are the Egyptian Muslims as well. Here's my MyTrueAncestry results

https://i.ibb.co/C7SswZG/2019-11-01-21-38-11-mytrueancestry-com-474b1310f02b.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Bgzq5Yb/2019-11-01-21-39-07-mytrueancestry-com-76e0ce9d1fb3.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/C935TB5/2019-11-01-21-42-45-mytrueancestry-com-7d04ceabb787.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/0hv7Tjk/2019-11-01-21-41-14-mytrueancestry-com-f67033e9c66d.jpg

Your closest Archaeogenetic matches...
(Smaller numbers mean closer matches to you)

1. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) ..... 9.786
Top 99% match vs all users

3. Samaritan (2000 AD) ..... 11.36
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5. Canaanite (1600 BC) ..... 13.03
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7. Canaanite (1650 BC) ..... 14.19
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9. Egyptian/Near East Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 15.82
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11. Canaanite (1600 BC) ..... 15.91
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13. Crusader Knight Mix / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 16.58
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15. Canaanite (1600 BC) ..... 17.5
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17. Hittite Anatolia (1625 BC) ..... 17.99
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19. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) ..... 19.71
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Your closest genetic modern populations...

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2. Syrian (4.710)
3. Sephardic_Jewish (7.001)
4. Jordanian (7.929)
5. Palestinian (9.512)
6. Samaritan (9.931)
7. Lebanese_Christian (10.19)
8. Cyprian (10.34)

Crusader Knight Georgian / Lebanon

mtDNA Haplogroup: J1b4
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Genetic Distance: 26.740
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Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon

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Crusader Knight Mix / Lebanon

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Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon

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Egyptian/Near East Gladiator York

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Genetic Distance: 15.829
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Nekht-Ankh Ancient Egypt

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Deep Dive Match! 98% closer than others who share this deep dive sample
Genetic Distance: 23.073
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Ptolemaic Egypt

mtDNA Haplogroup: U6a2
Y-DNA Haplogroup: E1b1b1a1b2-V22

Deep Dive Match! 4% closer than others who share this deep dive sample
Genetic Distance: 25.767
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My Coptic friend

https://anthrogenica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34347&d=1572766542
https://anthrogenica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34348&d=1572766563

In other words, neither the Semitic Canaanites or Egyptians were Blacks, lol.

[MysteriousWays]

Ethiopians (some) look the most distinct in terms of people from sub-Saharan African descent, but Somalis would be next after that (I think they score about 15-20% Arab on gedmatch type tests on average, but often look more so IMO).

[PaleoEuropean]

Somalis, Sudanese and Eritreans have Jewish and Arab blood. The Himyarites colonized Ethiopia and vice versa.

[KMack]

A couple of people have told me that Somalis look different from other Africans? Except for black leather ...

It is a continent Jesus Christ WTF is wrong with people.

[TheOldNorth]

Yeah, the whole music video looks strange with Michael Jackson choosing west African looking people being chosen to play ancient Egyptians in his music video based on ancient Egypt.
https://grownfolksmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Remember-The-Time-michael-jackson-11204899-709-530.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0qCvfC5LMgg/hqdefault.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeiFF0gvqcc

(It's like MJ's close friend Elizabeth Taylor playing Cleopatra in another movie - that wasn't realistic either.)

However I think the late David Bowie's Somali wife Iman looks similar to this bust of the ancient Egyptian Queen Nefertiti.
https://historicaleve.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/56627426_1196738543818359_6776100620781748224_n-960x675.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6f/ed/7d/6fed7da41a3ce4fc6f1f40af4b21f7a6.jpg

I guess you’re right she does look similar

[Dick]

Somalis, Sudanese and Eritreans have Jewish and Arab blood. The Himyarites colonized Ethiopia and vice versa.

They're 50% Caucasoid afaik

[luc2112]

Yeah, the whole music video looks strange with Michael Jackson choosing west African looking people being chosen to play ancient Egyptians in his music video based on ancient Egypt.
https://grownfolksmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Remember-The-Time-michael-jackson-11204899-709-530.jpg


It has beautiful breasts this Cleopatra :cool:

[Smeagol]

Ethiopians (some) look the most distinct in terms of people from sub-Saharan African descent, but Somalis would be next after that (I think they score about 15-20% Arab on gedmatch type tests on average, but often look more so IMO).

No, they score more like 50%.

[Maguzanci]

Ethiopians (some) look the most distinct in terms of people from sub-Saharan African descent, but Somalis would be next after that (I think they score about 15-20% Arab on gedmatch type tests on average, but often look more so IMO).

Closer to 40 to 50ish something %. Its a very ancient Middle Eastern ancestry rather than actual recent Arab admixture btw.

[mutabor]

Apart from having 40-50% West Asian admixture, Somalis and Ethiopians are decendants of Nilotic tribes from black side. Nilotics are thinner and taller in build than Bantu blacks and they often have Asiatic epicanthic folds and generally narrower eyes than Bantu.

Maasai Nilotic tribe

https://isorepublic.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/africa-tribe-1100x733.jpghttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/af/98/91/af98911081567c2649145ffdab832e93.jpghttps://www.sciencesource.com/Doc/TR1_WATERMARKED/b/6/4/6/SS2155130.jpg?d63641381448https://c.stocksy.com/a/uVG600/z9/1493450.jpg?1568633156https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/960x0/https%3A%2F%2Fspecials-images.forbesimg.com%2Fdam%2Fimageserve%2F10964823 10%2F960x0.jpg%3Ffit%3Dscalehttp://d3e1m60ptf1oym.cloudfront.net/65433168-4f13-11e1-a1ac-1dca96e229e1/Kenya-1111-2243_large.jpg

[renaissance12]

Yeah, the whole music video looks strange with Michael Jackson choosing west African looking people being chosen to play ancient Egyptians in his music video based on ancient Egypt.



It was Michael Jackson that made everything strange..

[renaissance12]

Zeudi Araya from Ethiopia.. She lives in Italy ( 100 % ethiopian ) No plastic surgery operation


20 years old

https://media3.giphy.com/media/Paw017JM1ny9O/source.gif

Now she is 69

https://ivid.akamaized.net/media/foto/2007/12/06/zeudi_araya_zeudi_araya_8b03a.jpg

http://cineteatrostella.altervista.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/franco-cristaldi.jpg

https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/312180538072_/35mm-vintage-slide-1990ca-COSTUME-Zeudi-ARAYA.jpg

[alnortedelsur]

Yes, they do. They are still negroid, but really more Caucasian influenced.

[Adamastor]

Yes, they do. They are still negroid, but really more Caucasian influenced.

They are not. They are 50% Caucasoid. A half-Somali half-White person generally looks fully Caucasoid.

[Seya]

yes, many of them look fully caucasian to me. i don't consider them being part of the negroid race.

[♥ Lily ♥]

They are not. They are 50% Caucasoid. A half-Somali half-White person generally looks fully Caucasoid.

No a half white and half Somali person doesn't look 'fully caucasoid.'

This is David Bowie's half white and half Somali daughter. (You can clearly see that she's mixed.)
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7835017.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/PAY-David-MAIN.jpg

[Hurrem sultana]

They look less "wild" more "civilized"

[♥ Lily ♥]

Somalis.

https://www.unocha.org/sites/unocha/files/giles-clarke-X3.jpg
https://www.unocha.org/sites/unocha/files/SHF.jpg
https://www.unhcr.org/ke/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/06/R.jpg
https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/imagecache/mbdxxlarge/mritems/Images/2017/9/25/55a1b28686b0471f80ccbaa55b481555_18.jpg
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/10902/production/_97824876_som4.jpg
https://www.unhcr.org/thumb1/50052c9d6.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Co5OaClAcyo/maxresdefault.jpg

[hussein khan]

THey do look very different from west africans and pure negroids/SSA's

I can easily recognise the differences.

[♥ Lily ♥]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvtHDCiKHME

[♥ Lily ♥]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogChOpw49qY

[luc2112]

Somalis.

https://www.unocha.org/sites/unocha/files/giles-clarke-X3.jpg
https://www.unocha.org/sites/unocha/files/SHF.jpg
https://www.unhcr.org/ke/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/06/R.jpg
https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/imagecache/mbdxxlarge/mritems/Images/2017/9/25/55a1b28686b0471f80ccbaa55b481555_18.jpg
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/10902/production/_97824876_som4.jpg
https://www.unhcr.org/thumb1/50052c9d6.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Co5OaClAcyo/maxresdefault.jpg

Mutation with some skull changes (Somalis also have mutations in the forehead. Big and curved), this also happens with Europeans (skull mutation for cold weather).

Somalis are 7% SSA-Bantu only.

[luc2112]

skulls (SSA-Bantu easy to see, the distance between the eyes is longer)

https://boneclones.com/images/store-product/product-1597-main-main-big-1415043931.jpg

[sean]

They tend to have thinner and longer faces and doe like eyes. They can be awfully pretty.

Really? lel

https://i.imgur.com/hAIR3fv.jpg

[Celestia]

Really? lel



I mean I was talking about females.
Eastern African women have more feminine and striking features than western african in my opinion.

[1R0N M4N XL]

their faces are very different.

[CostaRicaBall]

The most interesting thing is that the most caucasoid blacks (nubians and somalis) were blacks to egyptian eyes. That means that egyptians, at least upper class were meds

[CostaRicaBall]

No a half white and half Somali person doesn't look 'fully caucasoid.'

This is David Bowie's half white and half Somali daughter. (You can clearly see that she's mixed.)
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7835017.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/PAY-David-MAIN.jpg

Yep. Its obvious. Someone who is 75% caucasoid and 25% black will not look white. Hamite genes have less synchronization than amerindian or east asian genes with whites.

[luc2112]

The most interesting thing is that the most caucasoid blacks (nubians and somalis) were blacks to egyptian eyes. That means that egyptians, at least upper class were meds

Had separation by ethnic and caste probably, Nubius were modest sub-kingdom egyptian.

[Borat]

They are lighter, look more Euro

[Ranger0075]

Somali women are usually prettier than other africans

[Armenian Bishop]

They are lighter, look more Euro

From what I've observed, Somalians aren't lighter, or there's no significant difference. By the way, a West African once told me that Africans darken when they tan.

[El_Abominacion]

Yes. They are typically very distinct from West, Central, Southeast and South Africans, visibly also different to other Horn populations

[Swarthy_Syndicate]

They are very Muslim/Arab-looking Africans. Their skin is black but the facial features just scream "Habibi". Very Caucasoid compared to most sub-Saharan Africans.

[billsoncreole26]

Tutsis from Rwanda look quite similar to them and some Fulani from West Africa also.

Tutsi president Paul Kagame and Somali lookalike:

https://veritasinfo.fr/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/3B0E8085-8D80-4109-B0AA-7AA35D811A50.jpeg

Fulanis: Cameroon/Nigeria

https://ruwced.org/images/RuWCED_Mboscuda1.jpg

https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/33132526_1094098354064673_8384121404148154368_n.jp g?_nc_cat=103&ccb=3&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoibyJ9&_nc_ohc=RUPHDH9gjKUAX_ffpIM&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&tp=14&oh=7857ad5ca7101c465d2be965015e989e&oe=60587118

https://yt3.ggpht.com/ytc/AAUvwniSgKwqIllwsPlLt-j1TI4HS569PmwjyQTSBikW=s900-c-k-c0x00ffffff-no-rj

Hausa-Fulani Nigeria Youtuber

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/x9PxOSo70_I/hqdefault.jpg








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[Zanzibar]

They are very Muslim/Arab-looking Africans. Their skin is black but the facial features just scream "Habibi". Very Caucasoid compared to most sub-Saharan Africans.

How about Ethiopians and Eritreans? I went to Ethiopia once and a lot of them also have a very Muslim or MENA vibe despite being Orthodox Christian.

[PhillipDine]

This is not surprising because about 60% of Ethiopia's population is Christian and 33% are Muslim.