Which ancient admixture calculator ?

[Domias]

Which Gedmatch admixture calculator do you consider the best to know the ancestry from HG, EEF or Steppe we have ?

I'm French but the different calculators show I have a very high WHG ancestry (more than 50%), and a low EEF (~35-45%). According to Eupedia, French are more than ~ 25% WHG + 60% EEF.

Are the calculators wrong ? Or is it beacause EEF and Steppe have already signifiant WHG admixture ?

And I'm so sorry for my bad English !

[Samnium]

Get your G25 coordinates, it much better than old "Gedmatch", that are also made up with strange references.

http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/07/getting-most-out-of-global25_12.html

Your results are not surprising, Central and most of the Atlantic facade until the very north like Britanny, Normandy... has a very strong WHG and iberian shift.

[Domias]

I knew that for nordic samples, but I'm mainly from Massif Central and Lyon, so I thought that I had a heavy EEF ancestry. I'ill try G25 to see if results are less strange. Thank you for the link !

[Samnium]

I knew that for nordic samples, but I'm mainly from Massif Central and Lyon, so I thought that I had a heavy EEF ancestry. I'ill try G25 to see if results are less strange. Thank you for the link !

I've forgotten to precise : Central France so Auvergne, Lozère even Pays de la Loire !

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Yes, highly recommending G25 on this. When you get your results, Davidski automatically sends you results that show your foundational European makeup:

Distance: 3.7770% / 0.03777020
Aggregated
43.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
41.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.4 WHG
5.4 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
1.0 Han
0.8 Yoruba

[Leto]

Your results are not surprising, Central and most of the Atlantic facade until the very north like Britanny, Normandy... has a very strong WHG and iberian shift.
What about the historical Ile de France population (not the modern one that dwells there) and Grande Est? Are they more Nordic or Med?

[Leto]

Which Gedmatch admixture calculator do you consider the best to know the ancestry from HG, EEF or Steppe we have ?

I'm French but the different calculators show I have a very high WHG ancestry (more than 50%), and a low EEF (~35-45%). According to Eupedia, French are more than ~ 25% WHG + 60% EEF.

Are the calculators wrong ? Or is it beacause EEF and Steppe have already signifiant WHG admixture ?

And I'm so sorry for my bad English !
For starters post your Eurogenes K13 & K15. It's far from perfect but I'd like to take a look at the results.

[Samnium]

What about the historical Ile de France population (not the modern one that dwells there) and Grande Est? Are they more Nordic or Med?

Leaning towards North as I've said. There is a roman input in Lorraine though. Those of the Haut de France are very close to Dutch, SE English, East French lean towards W.Germans.

[Domias]

Sorry guys but I don't understand how to put my 23andme results in Vahaduo, neither how does it work...

Results with Eurogenes ANE k7 :
ANE 10.39 Pct
ASE 0.71 Pct
WHG-UHG 62.69 Pct
East_Eurasian 0.74 Pct
East_African 0.86 Pct
ENF 24.61 Pct

Eurogenes Hunter_Gatherer vs. Farmer :
Anatolian Farmer 8.16 Pct
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 43.00 Pct
Middle Eastern Herder 3.25 Pct
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.22 Pct
Mediterranean Farmer 45.15 Pct
Bantu Farmer 0.22 Pc

Ancient Eurasia K6 :
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 13.70 Pct
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 44.76 Pct
Natufian 41.55 Pc

puntDNAL K10 Ancient
ENF 36.37 Pct
CHG 21.95 Pct
E_Asian 1.61 Pct
WHG 40.05 Pc

puntDNAL K12 Ancient :
Sub-Saharan 0.67 Pct
Near_East 2.83 Pct
European_HG 32.66 Pct
Caucasus_HG 17.08 Pct
Anatolian_NF 46.03 Pct
East_Asian 0.65 Pct
Oceanian 0.08 Pc

[Iskander]

Yes, highly recommending G25 on this. When you get your results, Davidski automatically sends you results that show your foundational European makeup:



I appreciate what Davidsky did these years, and i agree that gedmatch is very outdated (today the golden standard is GLOBAL25 for sure), but still we haven't a conclusive answer (at least not just one) : once you have your scaled data…..try to run them with the calculator and you will find different (or slightly different) results, according to which reference populations (modern or ancient) you chose.

There are MANY possible results and intepretations : the most brilliant thing is that everyone can try and build his own system...

[Samnium]

I appreciate what Davidsky did these years, and i agree that gedmatch is very outdated (today the golden standard is GLOBAL25 for sure), but still we haven't a conclusive answer (at least not just one) : once you have your scaled data…..try to run them with the calculator and you will find different (or slightly different) results, according to which reference populations (modern or ancient) you chose.

There are MANY possible results and intepretations : the most brilliant thing is that everyone can try and build his own system...I agree, Gedmatch is very outdated. I don't use it that much now.