Whether the E-V13 can be treated as ''gypsy'' haplo?

[MiloshN]

Quite often, one can distinguish between gypsies from India and those "others".

Whether the E-V13 can be treated as ''gypsy'' haplo?

In Serbia, Gypsies in Vojvodina have the highest frequency percentages of E-V13. (Source, Serbian DNA Project)

What is your position? Is Roma exclusively those with H haplo or not? Can the E-V13 be included here?

Vote above. o7

[Tauromachos]

Gypsy?

Why or how so?

Its a haplo not uncommon in Europe and common for example among Greeks too

The oldest samples in Greece are found in Dimini for example and are very old.

Anyway its a haplo which comes from e1b1 so it came finally from Neolithic farmers from the Levant or North Africa

[Kamal900]

Gypsy?

Why or how so?

Its a haplo not uncommon in Europe and common for example among Greeks too

The oldest samples in Greece are found in Dimini for example and are very old.

Anyway its a haplo which comes from e1b1 so it came finally from Neolithic farmers from the Levant or North Africa

The haplogroup is also found in an ancient Moroccan sample from the paleolithic period Grotte des Pigeons near Taforalt in eastern Morocco which is dated around 15,100 to 13,000 years ago:
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/360/6388/548/tab-figures-data

10% of the Druze of the Levant belong to the E-V13 haplogroup thought they cluster with E-V12 and E-V22 rather than with European E-V13 which tells us that the haplogroup found among the Druze diverged from the ancestral haplogroup found among Southern Europeans like Greeks and etc during the neolithic period and not from the later periods.

[Voskos]

Gypsies are probably recent arrival to vojvodina from bulgaria/romania hence the e-v13.

[Daos777]

E-V13 arrived from Pakistan no more than 100 years ago. Everyone is an idiot who doesn’t understand this.


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[Coastal Elite]

My E-V13 comes directly from the Punjab region

[Tauromachos]

Gypsies are probably recent arrival to vojvodina from bulgaria/romania hence the e-v13.

If its realy a common haplogroup for Gypsies this might explain why it peaks so much in Kosovo

[Kamal900]

If its realy a common haplogroup for Gypsies this might explain why it peaks so much in Kosovo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5XcigwALXc

[Rocinante]

https://i.imgflip.com/403dco.jpg

[sean]

https://i.imgur.com/ov8Nuf7.jpg

[Rocinante]

https://i.imgur.com/ov8Nuf7.jpg

You would make me one of the most happiest man on earth if you say that you are E-V13, i mean it seriously.

[PaleoEuropean]

My E-V13 comes directly from the Punjab region


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTIIMJ9tUc8

[Kamilla13]

That made my day!
I'm officially exotic now and gonna announce my dad tonight his grandfather was a Gypsy ***

[PaleoEuropean]

R is considered a Sephardi Haplogroup so why not?

[TheMaestro]

Yes, no wonders Mortimer has it, we are most likely all related to Morti. Now we can get the Austrian and Punjabi passports.

[Oneeye]

https://i.imgflip.com/403dco.jpg


https://youtu.be/xTXrkKItuGU

[PaleoEuropean]

https://youtu.be/xTXrkKItuGU

How the fug do they keep their gloves and clothes so white if they are crawling around on the ground? I must know the secret to this voodoo.

[Rocinante]

https://youtu.be/xTXrkKItuGU

But those fellas are E-V12 according 23andme, not E-V13. E-V12 people iz cool.

[Oneeye]

https://i.imgur.com/ov8Nuf7.jpg

Notice the distinguished look of e1b men. All noble. All kings.

[Dr_Maul]

E-V13 is from the 20,000 Libyan farmers and herders that Xerxes sent to Thrace in 480 BC to prepare food for the garrisons before invading Greece

[Oneeye]

But those fellas are E-V12 according 23andme, not E-V13. E-V12 people iz cool.

If only.. haha they're e1b1a

[TheMaestro]

Notice the distinguished look of e1b men. All noble. All kings.

First 3 have strong Balkanite look, my uncle has Johnson vibe.

[Halgurd]

You would make me one of the most happiest man on earth if you say that you are E-V13, i mean it seriously.

Sean is South Asian and South Asians don’t have E-V13

[Gallop]

And who were the Khazars?

[Daos777]

E-V13 is from Pakistan so yes


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[Coastal Elite]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTIIMJ9tUc8

The man can dress


https://youtu.be/KTE6S-Pmhpw

[catgeorge]

They are elites - Europes greatest generals Napoleon and Hitler and probably Alexander the Great.

[Rocinante]

Sean is South Asian and South Asians don’t have E-V13

Isn't sean white?

[Halgurd]

Isn't sean white?

a little birdy told me he’s south Asian pretending to be white

[Rocinante]

a little birdy told me he’s south Asian pretending to be white

Would be cool if that is actually truth.

[Leto]

Mortimer is a Tzigane, therefore yes, it is Gypsy. Though I'd personally prefer it to be Jigaboo xD

[Chris596]

Why would it be? I don't score any South-Asian on GEDmatch.. And I know that I don't have Roma ancestors.

[Ion Basescul]

Sending love your way.


https://i.imgur.com/NHkqDO6.jpg

[Rabbit Hole]

Sending love your way.


https://i.imgur.com/NHkqDO6.jpg


These threads are getting more and more sick by the minute.

[Coastal Elite]

First 3 have strong Balkanite look, my uncle has Johnson vibe.

It's only a matter of time until LBJ's family comes clean and admits he is part Balkan.

[Ion Basescul]

These threads are getting more and more sick by the minute.

Don't take a troll thread seriously. OP is E-V13 himself.

[Rabbit Hole]

Don't take a troll thread seriously. OP is E-V13 himself.

I want to thank you for helping to explain to people my origins I have explained to my mother and she also thanked you, but I am sorry the people here seem mentally deranged, there is only a handful of people here who are intelligent like you, SuperDorian, Kemal, Samnium I really just want to deactive my account. The majority of people here just seem like either wannabe Nordcists or Zionists or troll Turks.

[Kamilla13]

Why would it be? I don't score any South-Asian on GEDmatch.. And I know that I don't have Roma ancestors.

Don't believe in that, they just talking sh..t .
Do your research on E- V13 instead :thumb001:

[Kamilla13]

I want to thank you for helping to explain to people my origins i have explained to my mother and she also thanked you, but I am sorry the people here seem mentally deranged, there is only a handful of people here who are intelligent like you, SuperDorian, Kemal Samnium I really just want to deactive my account. The majority of people here just seem like either wannabe Nordcists or Zionists or troll Turks.

Don't deactivate it , please *
It's funny sometimes, especially the Nordicists with sky blue eyes and sh..t as avatars lol :bored:

[Rabbit Hole]

Don't deactivate it , please *
It's funny sometimes, especially the Nordicists with sky blue eyes and sh..t as avatars lol :bored:

I know, I know my history but it's kind of wasted when 99.9 percent of the population on this forum are trolls there are better ones

[Coastal Elite]

Things will get better for E-V13. Someday we won't have to ride on the outside of the bus or wear compulsory orange caps for easy identification. Someday I hope we can enter a restaurant or bar using the front door without the owner demanding we come in through back or leave.

[TheMaestro]

Things will get better for E-V13. Someday we won't have to ride on the outside of the bus or wear compulsory orange caps for easy identification. Someday I hope we can enter a restaurant or bar using the front door without the owner demanding we come in through back or leave.

“I have a dream!” The history is repeating decades ago it were Afro Americans, now it’s time for us real AfroAmericans.

[Leto]

Don't deactivate it , please *
It's funny sometimes, especially the Nordicists with sky blue eyes and sh..t as avatars lol :bored:
She is literally an insane person.

[Leto]

“I have a dream!” The history is repeating decades ago it were Afro Americans, now it’s time for us real AfroAmericans.
Do you rightfully use the N word? Or is it the E word?

[PaleoEuropean]

Do you rightfully use the N word? Or is it the E word?

porch monkiEs.

[Rabbit Hole]

She is literally an insane person.

Why because I actually know history? I don't have the time to argue with the retarded, Turks, Albanians and Slavic people that hate anyone non Slavic.

There are Zionist Jews floating around. Why should I waste my fucking time?

[Coastal Elite]

“I have a dream!” The history is repeating decades ago it were Afro Americans, now it’s time for us real AfroAmericans.

We gotta fight the power


https://youtu.be/8PaoLy7PHwk

[TheMaestro]

Do you rightfully use the N word? Or is it the E word?

We invented N word, later one we gave n pass to AfroAmericans.

[Rabbit Hole]

Joso give me the name of a anthropology forum for people that actually have a fucking clue
https://anthrogenica.com/activity.php

Not this one it's like 99.9 percent Albanian.

[Leto]

We invented N word, later one we gave n pass to AfroAmericans.
One of the greatest E men
https://www.biography.com/.image/t_share/MTE5NTU2MzE2MjgwNDg5NDgz/martin-luther-king-jr-9365086-2-402.jpg
https://www.biography.com/.image/c_fit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw _620/MTE1ODA0OTcxNjg3ODM5MjQ1/martin-luther-king-jr-at-march-on-washington.jpg

Too bad we'll never learn his autosomal makeup.

[Ion Basescul]

We invented N word, later one we gave n pass to AfroAmericans.

You did indeed. N for Natufian

[Coastal Elite]

E-V13 Irishmen. You can just tell from the rap flow and aggressive attitude.


https://youtu.be/XhzpxjuwZy0

[Dorian]

#GreeceRepresent #Ev13 original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_3FERKbLu8

[Joso]

Yes, definitely.
But better explained as it being like the Ethnikid and bankid haplo.

[Joso]

Notice the distinguished look of e1b men. All noble. All kings.

Nope.
*E* is for Ethnikid( but also, Bankid).
https://i.imgur.com/znBSlkh.png
https://clip2net.com/clip/m197736/031c7-clip-41kb.jpg?nocache=1

[Oneeye]

Nope.
*E* is for Ethnikid( but also, Bankid).
https://i.imgur.com/znBSlkh.png
https://clip2net.com/clip/m197736/031c7-clip-41kb.jpg?nocache=1

This is how I picture you:

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/f7/65/80/f765808d5c35cf6d93ce48b6b2f4f813.jpg

[Daos777]

Nope.
*E* is for Ethnikid( but also, Bankid).
https://i.imgur.com/znBSlkh.png
https://clip2net.com/clip/m197736/031c7-clip-41kb.jpg?nocache=1

Makes zero sense considering most E carriers are 100 percent sub Saharan African so how does bankid and ethnikid fit them?


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[Tauromachos]

E-V13 Irishmen. You can just tell from the rap flow and aggressive attitude.


https://youtu.be/XhzpxjuwZy0

I thought that too but isn't EV13 very rare in Island?

[Tauromachos]

Mortimer is a Tzigane, therefore yes, it is Gypsy. Though I'd personally prefer it to be Jigaboo xD

Mortimer's paternal ancestry is Vasojevici that is an old Montenegrin clan

At least thats what he said

[Coastal Elite]

I thought that too but isn't EV13 very rare in Island?

He must be a McCarthy. https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?321866-E-V13-and-the-McCarthy-Surname&p=6671587&viewfull=1#post6671587

[Vojnik]

Mortimer's paternal ancestry is Vasojevici that is an old Montenegrin clan

At least thats what he said

Yeah, and i'm of the Gordon clan of Scotland.

[Tauromachos]

Yeah, and i'm of the Gordon clan of Scotland.

Well his father is predominantly Serbian 3/4 vs 1/4 Gypsy and also the Serbian part is his paternal ancestry

I believe at least what he says about his father ,his father doesn't look much Gypsy

Also would you agree with the other poster and think that EV13 is a Gypsy haplo and not a native South East European one
just because Mortimer says he is EV13?

I wouldn't

[Aspirin]

Dedication to E-V13 users. Niggaz4Life. :machine gun:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GEOJAtQlrY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J48xUoA2ivA

[Vojnik]

Well his father is predominantly Serbian 3/4 vs 1/4 Gypsy and also the Serbian part is his paternal ancestry

I believe at least what he says about his father ,his father doesn't look much Gypsy

Also would you agree with the other poster and think that EV13 is a Gypsy haplo and not a native South East European one
just because Mortimer says he is EV13?

I wouldn't

No I don’t agree with that. It’s clearly a neolithic European haplogroup.

[Oneeye]

https://youtu.be/DdQcJ3I3PYw

[CommonSense]

Yeah, and i'm of the Gordon clan of Scotland.

It really is true. His paternal great grandfather came from Bosnia to Banat and then mixed with Gypsies (common happening in that region). The Y-DNA test on FTDNA gave him the Vasojević clade and, because he's of proven Serbian paternal descent, they allowed him to be a member of our DNA project.

[Daos777]

It’s clearly a neolithic European haplogroup.

It was almost non-existent among Neolithic Europeans. Like 2 out of 69 samples or something like that. It’s from Northern Punjab region.