Daco Celtic's AncestryDNA vs 23andMe (2019 Updates)

[Daco Celtic]

I thought I would post my two very recent 2019 updates for AncestryDNA and 23andMe because they are so drastically different. It's partly a labeling issue, because Romanian is called Eastern Europe on AncestryDNA but Southern European on 23andMe.

AncestryDNA
https://i.imgur.com/eOd1dbN.jpg


23andMe
https://i.imgur.com/r2DPcSx.jpg

[Thambi]

hmm your 23andme seems more accurate.

[Daco Celtic]

hmm your 23andme seems more accurate.

For sure, I wonder how AncestryDNA even came up with this Germanic stuff. Seems way off.

[Daco Celtic]

With regions and map

https://i.imgur.com/d1GJUfW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/RB9vhw0.jpg

[Rædwald]

Same


https://i.postimg.cc/0yxVMtkL/1.png

https://i.postimg.cc/sgcwpp11/Capture.png

[Daco Celtic]

Same


https://i.postimg.cc/0yxVMtkL/1.png

https://i.postimg.cc/sgcwpp11/Capture.png



I felt my 23andMe results were more accurate, same for you? Seems like AncestryDNA totally missed your French. AncestryDNA was very accurate for my Irish side but bungled my Romanian side.

[Mr.G]

23andMe wins, hands down.

[Daco Celtic]

23andMe wins, hands down.

Im sure AncestryDNA will get it right with their next update :p

[Daco Celtic]

Compared to family members. Surprised by the difference from my sister.

Sister
https://i.imgur.com/s1vtEmn.jpg

Uncle
https://i.imgur.com/EmwvdRl.jpg

1st Cousin
https://i.imgur.com/tynRQJ6.jpg

[Mr.G]

Im sure AncestryDNA will get it right with their next update :p

Yes, I have the utmost confidence they will eliminate all that Germanic from your estimate, and give you at a damn region in Romania. Utmost confidence. :rolleyes:

[Mr.G]

I don't know if they got your sister's estimate right, but they certainly got it right-er. :)

[Daco Celtic]

Yes, I have the utmost confidence they will eliminate all that Germanic from your estimate, and give you at a damn region in Romania. Utmost confidence. :rolleyes:

I think they did a pretty good job with my sister's results given their categories. My sister does look more Slavic than me though :p I guess I'll never know how Ancestry conceived of my results, weird, because I want to know the logic behind it.

[Daco Celtic]

https://i.imgur.com/V24eFry.jpg

[TheOldNorth]

I thought I would post my two very recent 2019 updates for AncestryDNA and 23andMe because they are so drastically different. It's partly a labeling issue, because Romanian is called Eastern Europe on AncestryDNA but Southern European on 23andMe.

AncestryDNA
https://i.imgur.com/eOd1dbN.jpg


23andMe
https://i.imgur.com/r2DPcSx.jpg

I have a feeling most of the east euro from ancestry became balkans in 23&me leaving behind only what is truly balto-slavic, which 1.6%, hilarious because I have 2.7% from my Lithuanian Jewish Great grandmother, and you get 1% from your Romanian parent!

[Rædwald]

I felt my 23andMe results were more accurate, same for you? Seems like AncestryDNA totally missed your French. AncestryDNA was very accurate for my Irish side but bungled my Romanian side.

It seems they are still not able to make the distinction between France and England. 23andMe shows me about the correct amount as I'm 1/5 French on paper.

[TheOldNorth]

It seems they are still not able to make the distinction between France and England. 23andMe shows me about the correct amount as I'm 1/5 French on paper.

both are celto-germanic

[Daco Celtic]

My 95 year old grandmother's results. Just saw them today

https://i.imgur.com/QYcBBap.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/h0JGtiY.jpg

[JamesBond007]

I felt my 23andMe results were more accurate, same for you? Seems like AncestryDNA totally missed your French. AncestryDNA was very accurate for my Irish side but bungled my Romanian side.

That is because Americans are retardedly obsessed with being 'Irish' so there is a high market demand for that it.

[JamesBond007]

I think they did a pretty good job with my sister's results given their categories. My sister does look more Slavic than me though :p I guess I'll never know how Ancestry conceived of my results, weird, because I want to know the logic behind it.

AncestryDNA is crap except the raw data. It says I am 62% Irish/Scottish but that in reality it says the range can be from 32% to 63% so that just seems mathematically retarded on their part. The rest of my Ancestry it says is from Britain, Germanic Europe and Scandinavia mostly.

This is the most accurate estimate I have ever gotten to my ancestry and even it is not perfect -- from Lukasz k36 analysis :

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Scotland
2 SW_England
3 Orkney
4 Ireland
5 NL_Friesland
6 Iceland
7 SE_England
8 NL_Groningen
9 Northern_Ireland
10 NW_England


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 SW_England+Norway_Hedmark
2 Scotland+Scotland
3 NL_Groningen+SW_England
4 NL_Groningen+Scotland
5 Norway_Hedmark+FR_Brittany
6 Scotland+SW_England
7 West_Prussia+Scotland

8 NL_Groningen+NW_England
9 NL_Groningen+FR_Brittany
10 Scotland+Norway_Hedmark
.

Using 3 populations approximation:

1 50% Scotland +25% West_Prussia +25% Scotland
2 50% SW_England +25% SW_England +25% Norway_Hedmark
3 50% SW_England +25% Scotland +25% Norway_Hedmark
4 50% Scotland +25% West_Prussia +25% SW_England
5 50% Scotland +25% Scotland +25% Norway_Hedmark
6 50% Scotland +25% SW_England +25% Norway_Hedmark
7 50% SW_England +25% West_Prussia +25% Norway_Hedmark
8 50% SW_England +25% West_Prussia +25% Scotland
9 50% SW_England +25% West_Prussia +25% NL_Groningen
10 50% SW_England +25% NL_Groningen +25% Denmark
6741882 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 West_Prussia+Scotland+Scotland+Scotland
2 SW_England+SW_England+SW_England+Norway_Hedmark
3 Scotland+SW_England+SW_England+Norway_Hedmark
4 West_Prussia+Scotland+Scotland+SW_England
5 Scotland+Scotland+Scotland+Norway_Hedmark
6 Scotland+Scotland+SW_England+Norway_Hedmark
7 West_Prussia+SW_England+SW_England+Norway_Hedmark
8 West_Prussia+Scotland+SW_England+SW_England
9 West_Prussia+NL_Groningen+Scotland+SW_England
10 West_Prussia+NL_Groningen+SW_England+SW_England
11 NL_Groningen+SW_England+SW_England+Denmark
12 NL_Groningen+Scotland+Scotland+Scotland
13 West_Prussia+NL_Groningen+Scotland+Scotland
14 NL_Groningen+Scotland+Scotland+SW_England
15 Scotland+Scotland+Norway_Hedmark+FR_Brittany
16 West_Prussia+Scotland+SW_England+Norway_Hedmark
17 NL_Groningen+Scotland+SW_England+Denmark
18 West_Prussia+SW_England+SW_England+Denmark
19 NL_Groningen+Scotland+SW_England+SW_England
20 West_Prussia+SW_England+SW_England+SW_England

[Daco Celtic]

That is because Americans are retardedly obsessed with being 'Irish' so there is a high market demand for that it.

What does it mean to be retardedly obsessed with being Irish? I know disproportionate amount of Irish-Americans take these tests. Are you referring to Scot-Irish Americans who mistaken believe they are Irish?

[Daco Celtic]

AncestryDNA is crap except the raw data. It says I am 62% Irish/Scottish but that in reality it says the range can be from 32% to 63% so that just seems mathematically retarded on their part. The rest of my Ancestry it says is from Britain, Germanic Europe and Scandinavia mostly.

This is the most accurate estimate I have ever gotten to my ancestry and even it is not perfect -- from Lukasz k36 analysis :

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Scotland
2 SW_England
3 Orkney
4 Ireland
5 NL_Friesland
6 Iceland
7 SE_England
8 NL_Groningen
9 Northern_Ireland
10 NW_England


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 SW_England+Norway_Hedmark
2 Scotland+Scotland
3 NL_Groningen+SW_England
4 NL_Groningen+Scotland
5 Norway_Hedmark+FR_Brittany
6 Scotland+SW_England
7 West_Prussia+Scotland

8 NL_Groningen+NW_England
9 NL_Groningen+FR_Brittany
10 Scotland+Norway_Hedmark
.

Using 3 populations approximation:

1 50% Scotland +25% West_Prussia +25% Scotland
2 50% SW_England +25% SW_England +25% Norway_Hedmark
3 50% SW_England +25% Scotland +25% Norway_Hedmark
4 50% Scotland +25% West_Prussia +25% SW_England
5 50% Scotland +25% Scotland +25% Norway_Hedmark
6 50% Scotland +25% SW_England +25% Norway_Hedmark
7 50% SW_England +25% West_Prussia +25% Norway_Hedmark
8 50% SW_England +25% West_Prussia +25% Scotland
9 50% SW_England +25% West_Prussia +25% NL_Groningen
10 50% SW_England +25% NL_Groningen +25% Denmark
6741882 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 West_Prussia+Scotland+Scotland+Scotland
2 SW_England+SW_England+SW_England+Norway_Hedmark
3 Scotland+SW_England+SW_England+Norway_Hedmark
4 West_Prussia+Scotland+Scotland+SW_England
5 Scotland+Scotland+Scotland+Norway_Hedmark
6 Scotland+Scotland+SW_England+Norway_Hedmark
7 West_Prussia+SW_England+SW_England+Norway_Hedmark
8 West_Prussia+Scotland+SW_England+SW_England
9 West_Prussia+NL_Groningen+Scotland+SW_England
10 West_Prussia+NL_Groningen+SW_England+SW_England
11 NL_Groningen+SW_England+SW_England+Denmark
12 NL_Groningen+Scotland+Scotland+Scotland
13 West_Prussia+NL_Groningen+Scotland+Scotland
14 NL_Groningen+Scotland+Scotland+SW_England
15 Scotland+Scotland+Norway_Hedmark+FR_Brittany
16 West_Prussia+Scotland+SW_England+Norway_Hedmark
17 NL_Groningen+Scotland+SW_England+Denmark
18 West_Prussia+SW_England+SW_England+Denmark
19 NL_Groningen+Scotland+SW_England+SW_England
20 West_Prussia+SW_England+SW_England+SW_England

I had K36 about this time last year. It's good but you probably have more info with the new results. I do agree about AncestryDNA but it was worth it because of the raw data. My mom's half is about 95% Cork Irish so they got that right.

[JamesBond007]

What does it mean to be retardedly obsessed with being Irish? I know disproportionate amount of Irish-Americans take these tests. Are you referring to Scot-Irish Americans who mistaken believe they are Irish?

I've seen German Americans claim they are Irish. Basically, Americans view 'Irish' as the ideal ethnicity because they were underdogs and they weren't racist but victims of racism and most Americans would rather be called anything but racist. Come to New York city for the Saint Patrick's Day parade and you will see every kind of European American claiming to be Irish. The reality is the Irish are the like Mexicans of Europe and their brother Gods the Scottish have way more achievements in the arts, sciences, and inventions but for some reason Scottish nationalists almost have to kidnap people to join unlike Irish nationalists.

[JamesBond007]

I had K36 about this time last year. It's good but you probably have more info with the new results. I do agree about AncestryDNA but it was worth it because of the raw data. My mom's half is about 95% Cork Irish so they got that right.

You have to know how to read the K36 analysis as it uses different methods and only one the methods will probably be most accurate for you as everyone is different. One of the methods claimed I was basically Dutch but that is because the English/Scots or British are closely related to the Dutch and lowland Scots are descended from Anglian-Norse Teutons with some Celtic mixture so Lukas said the Dutch was my Saxon ancestry coming through.

[JamesBond007]

I had K36 about this time last year. It's good but you probably have more info with the new results. I do agree about AncestryDNA but it was worth it because of the raw data. My mom's half is about 95% Cork Irish so they got that right.

Possibly, as he has an Alsace-Lorraine region now and it was picking up my Germanic heritage from Alsace-Lorraine as West Prussian since my German grandmother, from the region, had at least one Prussian ancestor. The Prussians were the elite military force of Germany historically.

[Daco Celtic]

I've seen German Americans claim they are Irish. Basically, Americans view 'Irish' as the ideal ethnicity because they were underdogs and they weren't racist but victims of racist and most Americans would rather be called anything but racist. Come to New York city for the Saint Patrick's Day parade and you will see every kind of European American claiming to be Irish. The reality is the Irish are the like Mexicans of Europe and their brother Gods the Scottish have way more achievements in the arts, sciences, and inventions but for some reason Scottish nationalists almost have to kidnap people to join unlike Irish nationalists.

That's all fine. I like Mexicans. Salt of the earth people like Irish. I have no delusions of grandeur. My Irish half is pretty damn authentic (very Cork) so please don't lump me in with the Americans you mention above. Weren't you just claiming to be from Hibernia, at least in part?

[Creoda]

That is because Americans are retardedly obsessed with being 'Irish' so there is a high market demand for that it.
You seem like the opposite side of that coin - you're obsessed with not being Irish, you keep talking about how you're Scottish, or Cornish, or English, or Saxon, whatever suits on the day, as long as it's not the Green Menace.

[JamesBond007]

That's all fine. I like Mexicans. Salt of the earth people like Irish. I have no delusions of grandeur. My Irish half is pretty damn authentic (very Cork) so please don't lump me in with the Americans you mention above. Weren't you just claiming to be from Hibernia, at least in part?

Of course, I am part Irish or Goidelic/Gaidhlig. All Scottish people are. Scotland was founded by a Scotti Gaelic tribe from Northern Ireland that sailed to Dal Riata (Argyll-Bute) Scotland and colonized it and then mixed with the native Picts before eventually much later mixing with teutonic tribes. Mainland Scots are like halfway between the native Irish/Welsh and English/Germanics. Highland Scots can look very Norwegian in the NorthEast but in Shetland and Orkney it is a mix of Norse(viking)-Gaels. I think Orcadians are like 35% viking or something.

[JamesBond007]

You seem like the opposite side of that coin - you're obsessed with not being Irish, you keep talking about how you're Scottish, or Cornish, or English, or Saxon, whatever suits on the day, as long as it's not the Green Menace.

That is only because all these calculators tell me something different. However, it is worth noting that Charles Darwin referred to the Scottish as Saxons and I am pretty sure I am Scottish for instance my dad's name is Gordon etc... Some English dude in California claiming to be Norwegian said I looked Braveheart era Scottish. From Charles Dawin's book "The Descent of Man" :


"The careless, squalid, unaspiring Irishman multiplies like rabbits: the frugal, foreseeing, self-respecting, ambitious Scot, stern in his morality, spiritual in his faith, sagacious and disciplined in his intelligence, passes his best years in struggle and in celibacy, marries late, and leaves few behind him. Given a land originally peopled by a thousand Saxons and a thousand Celts--and in a dozen generations five-sixths of the population would be Celts, but five- sixths of the property, of the power, of the intellect, would belong to the one-sixth of Saxons that remained. In the eternal 'struggle for existence,' it would be the inferior and LESS favoured race that had prevailed--and prevailed by virtue not of its good qualities but of its faults."

https://charles-darwin.classic-literature.co.uk/the-descent-of-man/ebook-page-93.asp

[Grace O'Malley]

That's all fine. I like Mexicans. Salt of the earth people like Irish. I have no delusions of grandeur. My Irish half is pretty damn authentic (very Cork) so please don't lump me in with the Americans you mention above. Weren't you just claiming to be from Hibernia, at least in part?

He used to be claiming that he was Norman French.

Cork is a lovely place and the home of Michael Collins one of the most revered men in Irish history. Mao Tse-tung and Yitzhak Shamir admired Michael Collins for his tactics against the British.

Cork people are not just Irish but from the People's Republic of Cork. :)

http://mirror.uncyc.org/wiki/The_People's_Republic_of_Cork

It's great you have your grandmother's dna.

[Creoda]

That is only because all these calculators tell me something different. However, it is worth noting that Charles Darwin referred to the Scottish as Saxons and I am pretty sure I am Scottish for instance my dad's name is Gordon etc... Some English dude in California claiming to be Norwegian said I looked Braveheart era Scottish. From Charles Dawin's book "The Descent of Man" :


"The careless, squalid, unaspiring Irishman multiplies like rabbits: the frugal, foreseeing, self-respecting, ambitious Scot, stern in his morality, spiritual in his faith, sagacious and disciplined in his intelligence, passes his best years in struggle and in celibacy, marries late, and leaves few behind him. Given a land originally peopled by a thousand Saxons and a thousand Celts--and in a dozen generations five-sixths of the population would be Celts, but five- sixths of the property, of the power, of the intellect, would belong to the one-sixth of Saxons that remained. In the eternal 'struggle for existence,' it would be the inferior and LESS favoured race that had prevailed--and prevailed by virtue not of its good qualities but of its faults."

https://charles-darwin.classic-literature.co.uk/the-descent-of-man/ebook-page-93.asp
The calculators don't mean squat for NW Europeans. My parents never get their nationalities and I always get Orcadian or Scottish despite having no ancestry from there.

[Daco Celtic]

He used to be claiming that he was Norman French.

Cork is a lovely place and the home of Michael Collins one of the most revered men in Irish history. Mao Tse-tung and Yitzhak Shamir admired Michael Collins for his tactics against the British.

Cork people are not just Irish but from the People's Republic of Cork. :)

http://mirror.uncyc.org/wiki/The_People's_Republic_of_Cork

It's great you have your grandmother's dna.

Yeah, I'm amazed they were able to get a sample from a 95 year old (special thanks to my uncle). My great-grandfather (Irish grandfather's father) grew up in Clonakilty so there is a strong connection to Michael Collins.

[Grace O'Malley]

The calculators don't mean squat for NW Europeans. My parents never get their nationalities and I always get Orcadian or Scottish despite having no ancestry from there.

Yes all northwestern Europeans are interchangeable as far as the populations they get in these calculators. You wouldn't want to take them literally and paper trail is the way to go.

[JamesBond007]

The calculators don't mean squat for NW Europeans. My parents never get their nationalities and I always get Orcadian or Scottish despite having no ancestry from there.

I agree with you with the Orcadian but not necessarily with the Scottish results. For instance, Eurogenes K15 seems Orcadian happy. Basically, Francis Parkman and a Roosevelt were of the idea that you could mix the Germans together with the Irish and back into the English to create a new kind of Anglo-Saxon in America that approximates middle England. I am a mixture of Irish, Scottish, English and German and that mix may approximate either Scottish or English but I would not be the typical Englishman as my Celtic Vs Germanic Eurogenes DNA chart shows I fall just under Scotland within the extreme boundaries of 'Englishness' and my Eurogenes k36 PCA shows my closest population as Scottish but I am slightly below it as I pull somewhat towards Germany and of Course Dodecad and Lukasz k36 Calculators say Scottish. The Michal 25 calculator says I am Scottish and two people in real life , two men, said I am Scottish but I really don't ask that many people these kinds of things.

[JamesBond007]

Yes all northwestern Europeans are interchangeable as far as the populations they get in these calculators. You wouldn't want to take them literally and paper trail is the way to go.

The problem with the paper trail is that there have been invasions, raping and pillaging and also voluntary movement in the past. For instance, even though I have a grandfather from Donegal Ireland and it is part of Ulster not technically Northern Ireland but even parts of Donegal experienced Scottish plantations and my grandfather looked Scottish IMO. He married my grandmother who is English and most English women would not marry an Irishman but Scottish men are more palatable or probable for marriage to English women.

[Daco Celtic]

The problem with the paper trail is that there have been invasions, raping and pillaging and also voluntary movement in the past. For instance, even though I have a grandfather from Donegal Ireland and it is part of Ulster not technically Northern Ireland but even parts of Donegal experienced Scottish plantations and my grandfather looked Scottish IMO. He married my grandmother who is English and most English women would not marry an Irishman but Scottish men are more palatable or probable for marriage to English women.

I bet your family just loved Catholics right?

[JamesBond007]

I bet your family just loved Catholics right?

Sorry, for highjacking your thread broham. However, I grew up in New York (not Scotland) and New York culture is a mixture of Catholic and Jewish on a smaller Dutch root. It really depends on where you grow up. I'm not really religious but after reading the philosophy of Arthur Schopenhauer I can see that if I was born in Scotland I would be a Frozen Chosen Presbyterian believing in the utter depravity of mankind but I was born in New York.

[Grace O'Malley]

Yeah, I'm amazed they were able to get a sample from a 95 year old (special thanks to my uncle). My great-grandfather (Irish grandfather's father) grew up in Clonakilty so there is a strong connection to Michael Collins.

My great grandmother was a Collins from Tipperary. Collins though is a very common name in Munster. Yes that's brilliant you got a sample from a 95 year old especially with 23andMe. The scraping from the cheek is much easier than having to spit so your family has done well.

I've read The Assassination of Michael Collins: What Happened At Béal na mBláth? by S.M. Sigerson. It was such a tragedy for Ireland that Michael Collins was assassinated. He would have been a better President than De Valera who kept Ireland isolated for years. Collins was the brains behind Ireland's war of independence. He was only 31 when he was killed. Anyway a bit OT but he is a fascinating man and of course a Corkonian.

[Daco Celtic]

Sorry, for highjacking your thread broham. However, I grew up in New York (not Scotland) and New York culture is a mixture of Catholic and Jewish on a smaller Dutch root. It really depends on where you grow up.

No, don't worry about it. I'm glad this thread could facilitate a British Isles related conversation. The banter is fun. I grew up in the SF Bay Area which has it's own unique culture.

[Grace O'Malley]

The problem with the paper trail is that there have been invasions, raping and pillaging and also voluntary movement in the past. For instance, even though I have a grandfather from Donegal Ireland and it is part of Ulster not technically Northern Ireland but even parts of Donegal experienced Scottish plantations and my grandfather looked Scottish IMO. He married my grandmother who is English and most English women would not marry an Irishman but Scottish men are more palatable or probable for marriage to English women.

Donegal (Dún na nGall, meaning 'fort of the foreigners). Very big Ui Neill country. This study has some interesting information on Donegal.

https://www.pnas.org/content/116/38/19064

[Daco Celtic]

My great grandmother was a Collins from Tipperary. Collins though is a very common name in Munster. Yes that's brilliant you got a sample from a 95 year old especially with 23andMe. The scraping from the cheek is much easier than having to spit so your family has done well.

I've read The Assassination of Michael Collins: What Happened At Béal na mBláth? by S.M. Sigerson. It was such a tragedy for Ireland that Michael Collins was assassinated. He would have been a better President than De Valera who kept Ireland isolated for years. Collins was the brains behind Ireland's war of independence. He was only 31 when he was killed. Anyway a bit OT but he is a fascinating man and of course a Corkonian.

Yeah, I grew up Catholic so I strongly identify with Irish-American Catholic culture and would like to read the book you mentioned. It's hard to believe how young he was at the time of his death. I assume you've seen the movie with Liam Neeson? I think I went through Tipperary when traveling from Cork to Limerick if memory serves me correctly.

[Grace O'Malley]

Yeah, I grew up Catholic so I strongly identify with Irish-American Catholic culture and would like to read the book you mentioned. It's hard to believe how young he was at the time of his death. I assume you've seen the movie with Liam Neeson?

It is hard to believe how young he was and very sad. He was a big strapping man and he was known as "the Big Fella". Yes I've seen Michael Collins the movie. Liam Neeson was a good choice to play him.

https://cdnph.upi.com/sv/ph/og/upi_com/1631566227544/2019/1/efc2ea1eafa47b75c6b60ad074fd7ffe/v1.5/On-This-Day-Irish-revolutionary-Michael-Collins-assassinated.jpg

https://i0.wp.com/stairnaheireann.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/76e233574802053e2f5b984b15c19049.jpg?fit=750%2C969&ssl=1

Just going to watch this documentary now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwoSb08A8p8

[Daco Celtic]

Just going to watch this documentary now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwoSb08A8p8

:thumb001: Nice, me too. I've become rusty on my Micheal Collins knowledge since the early 2000s. Btw, the people in my avatar are Cork Irish. Great Grandfather and Great, Great Grandfather.

[Creoda]

I've read The Assassination of Michael Collins: What Happened At Béal na mBláth? by S.M. Sigerson. It was such a tragedy for Ireland that Michael Collins was assassinated. He would have been a better President than De Valera who kept Ireland isolated for years. Collins was the brains behind Ireland's war of independence. He was only 31 when he was killed. Anyway a bit OT but he is a fascinating man and of course a Corkonian.
I didn't know that was the denonym. I thought it was a Corkscrew.

[Grace O'Malley]

I didn't know that was the denonym. I thought it was a Corkscrew.

Is that a joke? :) Cork is also known as the rebel county and I always thought that was due to them being very rebellious against the British but Cork got that name from its support for the Yorkist cause during the War of the Roses and also fighting the Vikings.


https://theculturetrip.com/europe/ireland/articles/why-is-cork-called-the-rebel-county/

[Creoda]

Is that a joke? :) Cork is also known as the rebel county and I always thought that was due to them being very rebellious against the British but Cork got that name from its support for the Yorkist cause during the War of the Roses and also fighting the Vikings.


https://theculturetrip.com/europe/ireland/articles/why-is-cork-called-the-rebel-county/
Yeah, a bad one. I could have gone lower and gone for Corksucker, but I decided not to.

[Nurzat]

Yes, I have the utmost confidence they will eliminate all that Germanic from your estimate, and give you at a damn region in Romania. Utmost confidence. :rolleyes:

AncestryDNA placed Romania with Eastern Europe so of his Romanian genes some will get Eastern Euro %, some will get Balkan %. when put together it's at least 25% (versus 39% on 23andme which is still more accurate).

on 23andme I get 40% something Eastern Euro (Ukrainian), 40% something Balkan (Romanian), which is very accurate. they even got the regions right - exactly my mom's and dad's counties in Ukraine and Romania.

[Daco Celtic]

My mom just got her 23andMe results

https://i.imgur.com/Ha5DF97.jpg

[Grace O'Malley]

My mom just got her 23andMe results

https://i.imgur.com/65dy5fa.jpg

That's really high B&I. How long has her family been in the US?

[Daco Celtic]

That's really high B&I. How long has her family been in the US?

My mom's father's side has only been in the US since about 1910, kinda late for Irish immigrants. Below I put my great aunt's results (Grandfather's sister) so that gives you an idea of what his results would have been like. I think that reflects what a Cork person would get on 23andMe.

My grandmothers side has been in the US longer and probably came during the famine. They are mostly Cork too but I have one great, great grandmother that was English. I think the native American my mom has, if that is correct, comes from that small, watered down English influence and perhaps that side of the family has been in the US a long time.

https://i.imgur.com/1CGMq7q.jpg

[Daco Celtic]

2020 Updates

AncestryDNA


https://i.imgur.com/5uB42um.jpg

23andMe

https://i.imgur.com/Rj1UXlY.jpg