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J. Ketch
11-15-2019, 05:04 AM
https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

ie neighbouring countries to those you're from.

Mine



Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 1.7996% / 0.01799629
Aggregated
53.4 Scottish
24.4 Icelandic
22.2 French_Brittany

Without British/Irish references

Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 1.8593% / 0.01859259
Aggregated
52.4 French_Brittany
47.0 Icelandic
0.6 Dutch


Mother (English)



Target: CreodaMum_scaled
Distance: 1.6726% / 0.01672613
Aggregated
38.0 Norwegian
34.2 Welsh
20.8 German
7.0 French_Brittany

Without British references

Target: CreodaMum_scaled
Distance: 1.6929% / 0.01692910
Aggregated
44.2 Norwegian
26.8 German
24.8 French_Brittany
3.8 French_Rennes_Bretagne
0.4 Belgian


Father (Irish)



Target: CreodaDad_scaled
Distance: 2.2878% / 0.02287834
Aggregated
54.0 Icelandic
39.0 Scottish
7.0 English_Cornwall

Without British/Irish

Target: CreodaDad_scaled
Distance: 2.3237% / 0.02323726
Aggregated
72.2 Icelandic
27.2 French_Brittany
0.4 French_Rennes_Bretagne
0.2 Dutch

J. Ketch
11-16-2019, 02:43 PM
bttt

Jana
11-16-2019, 02:52 PM
Me:

"fit": 1.8085,

"Slovenian": 47.5,
"Bosnian": 30,
"Hungarian": 12.5,
"Italian_Northeast": 5.83,
"Serbian": 4.17,
"Montenegrin": 0,

Stears:

"fit": 1.4679,

"Ukrainian": 33.33,
"Romanian": 25,
"Croatian": 24.17,
"Austrian": 17.5,
"Serbian": 0,
"Slovakian": 0,
"Slovenian": 0,

Beowulf
07-30-2024, 11:25 AM
Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0164% / 0.01640661
79.6 France
20.4 Portugal


<tbody>
Distance to:
Beowulf_Scaled


0.01788317
France:French_Auvergne


0.03226441
Portugal


0.05640035
United_Kingdom(Gibraltar)



</tbody>

gixajo
07-30-2024, 11:45 AM
France:French_Alsace,0.1273112,0.1403715,0.0503172 ,0.0224324,0.0384224,0.0089105,0.0029199,0.0048748 ,0.0068516,0.010679,-0.0031341,0.0045785,-0.0094438,-0.0041699,0.0085606,0.0030662,-0.0048927,0.0024387,0.003243,-0.000716,0.0027639,0.0011562,-0.0013219,0.0071364,-0.0003143
France:French_Auvergne,0.1254161,0.1446566,0.04741 94,0.0129918,0.0434726,0.0039974,-0.0003394,0.0025128,0.0154076,0.0221721,-0.0024659,0.0073546,-0.0139686,-0.0096693,0.0082989,0.001483,-0.0007871,0.0014968,0.0030726,-0.000213,0.0018579,0.003737,-0.0022823,0.0018163,-8.87e-05
France:French_Bearn,0.1267991,0.1448145,0.0535889, 0.0060078,0.0539486,0.0021754,-0.001692,-0.0020537,0.024461,0.0398913,-0.0088665,0.0102359,-0.0189989,-0.0143265,0.0141693,0.001578,-0.0057238,-0.0008996,-0.0017346,-0.0033017,0.0054653,0.0031407,-0.0066429,-0.0081696,0.0006825
France:French_Bigorre,0.1280511,0.1473535,0.052269 ,0.0053295,0.0522249,-0.0008365,-0.0016685,0.0001617,0.0248088,0.0382695,-0.0030854,0.007883,-0.0214815,-0.0141476,0.0087403,0.0001856,-0.0035596,0.0023691,-0.0008926,-0.0029139,0.0025082,-0.0008902,-0.0032908,-0.0059043,0.0010298
France:French_Brittany,0.1314657,0.1383406,0.05785 04,0.0392849,0.0391688,0.0158131,0.0031549,0.00421 14,0.008186,0.0094899,-0.0051314,0.00559,-0.014368,-0.0131017,0.0183426,0.0043987,-0.0073016,0.0012795,-0.000462,0.0017727,0.0044671,0.0017868,-0.001254,0.0105465,0.0006586
France:French_Chalosse,0.1287339,0.1477596,0.05189 17,0.0111758,0.0513326,0.0027611,0.00047,0.0017769 ,0.0252587,0.0396544,-0.0026958,0.008947,-0.0203367,-0.0150834,0.0110884,0.0028241,-0.0054241,0.0016723,-0.0007794,-0.0022384,0.0082731,0.002844,-0.0076906,-0.0076635,-0.0020956
France:French_Corsica,0.1203273,0.1518216,0.019529 4,-0.0230022,0.0350394,-0.0100401,-0.0018464,-0.0005604,0.0157044,0.0337918,-0.0006031,0.0074612,-0.0132308,-0.0071074,-0.004537,-0.0005968,0.0040419,0.0012489,0.0024511,-0.0030461,-0.0003923,0.0002474,-0.0025793,-0.0013858,-0.0005303
France:French_Nord,0.1282752,0.1405432,0.0513571,0 .0256051,0.0382728,0.0088906,0.0010967,0.0044194,0 .008373,0.0120166,-0.003484,0.0040328,-0.0108613,-0.0081823,0.0111991,0.0025432,-0.0046069,0.0022266,0.0040947,0.0010308,0.0021327, 0.0015249,-0.0015724,0.0074707,1.45e-05
France:French_Occitanie,0.1270391,0.1448823,0.0488 79,0.0179086,0.0433756,0.0034164,0.0005222,0.00389 09,0.0148564,0.0235894,-0.0032883,0.0065816,-0.0150436,-0.0094578,0.010737,0.0025671,-0.0037088,0.0024846,0.0014247,4.52e-05,0.0036706,0.0024456,-0.0025505,0.0017673,0.0004224
France:French_Paris,0.1271714,0.1414355,0.0504313, 0.0239901,0.0409027,0.0093048,0.0027985,0.0054544, 0.0116022,0.0181739,-0.0077061,0.0068121,-0.0129065,-0.0103844,0.0137695,0.0060631,-0.0018255,0.0046644,0.0027082,-0.0009778,0.0022007,0.0035747,-0.0012325,0.0111405,-0.0019051
France:French_Pas-de-Calais,0.1278613,0.140482,0.0543053,0.026809,0.042 1617,0.0127363,0.0041517,0.0013073,0.0085217,0.012 4527,-0.0080113,0.002198,-0.0100097,-0.012019,0.0136627,0.008132,-0.000478,0.001816,-0.003645,0.004252,0.0099827,0.0014427,-0.002547,0.0059043,-0.001437
France:French_Provence,0.1219247,0.1438468,0.03689 14,0.005358,0.0368574,0.0023296,0.0022671,0.003637 9,0.0100577,0.0204533,-0.0038687,0.0072112,-0.0121376,-0.0109614,0.0059557,0.0031744,0.0010967,0.0028095, 0.0017746,-0.0015155,0.0015414,0.0027349,0.0003552,0.0054435, 3.52e-05
France:French_Seine-Maritime,0.1360185,0.1370965,0.0452545,0.0295545,0 .039084,0.0167335,0.00423,-0.000692,0.003988,0.006014,-0.003735,0.0074935,-0.0075815,-0.0016515,0.0142505,0.0035135,-0.0079535,-0.002344,0.0009425,-0.0050025,0.0039305,0.0055025,0.000863,0.0042775,-0.0044905
France:French_South,0.1261811,0.1447856,0.0496183, 0.0088594,0.0506907,0.0026694,0.0002686,0.0022747, 0.0276401,0.0386601,-0.0067741,0.0073649,-0.021853,-0.0135659,0.0103729,0.0027653,-0.0051034,0.0017917,0.0002154,0.0019116,0.0049911,-0.0008301,-0.0052646,-0.0075569,-0.00142
Portugal,0.1061741,0.1446114,0.0360075,-0.0044316,0.042137,-0.0040494,-0.0037412,0.0027598,0.0255982,0.029741,-0.000734,0.0074214,-0.0127373,-0.0112631,0.0125568,-0.0003978,-0.0011316,-0.0008869,-0.005762,-0.0002452,0.0011379,-0.002572,0.0013015,-0.0011326,-0.0001053
United_Kingdom(Gibraltar):English,0.1318551,0.1370 43,0.0617883,0.044013,0.0392299,0.0167481,0.004984 5,0.0057448,0.0052637,0.0056781,-0.0047691,0.0056161,-0.0125892,-0.0103507,0.0206153,0.0035521,-0.0103689,0.004094,0.003685,0.0029619,0.0059369,0. 0034036,-0.0032693,0.0137938,3.16e-05
Morocco,-0.0853671,0.1302133,-0.0128221,-0.0708806,0.0211321,-0.03294,-0.0277833,0.0097687,0.0554032,0.0243993,0.0095087,-0.0090252,0.0269902,-0.0144658,0.0163016,-0.0061874,-0.0027669,-0.0170326,-0.0384216,0.0094351,-0.0098438,-0.0295119,0.0209111,-0.0011248,0.0059207


Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 1.4833% / 0.01483254
57.8 France
42.2 Portugal

Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 1.7563% / 0.01756307
56.6 France
42.6 Portugal
0.8 Morocco

--------------------

Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 1.4833% / 0.01483255
42.4 Portugal
23.8 France:French_Chalosse
12.6 France:French_Bearn
12.4 France:French_South
5.6 France:French_Seine-Maritime
3.2 France:French_Corsica

Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 1.7563% / 0.01756307
44.4 France:French_Chalosse
42.6 Portugal
11.2 France:French_Seine-Maritime
1.0 France:French_Paris
0.8 Morocco

https://i.imgur.com/UWInRFR.png

Beowulf
07-30-2024, 11:48 AM
France:French_Alsace,0.1273112,0.1403715,0.0503172 ,0.0224324,0.0384224,0.0089105,0.0029199,0.0048748 ,0.0068516,0.010679,-0.0031341,0.0045785,-0.0094438,-0.0041699,0.0085606,0.0030662,-0.0048927,0.0024387,0.003243,-0.000716,0.0027639,0.0011562,-0.0013219,0.0071364,-0.0003143
France:French_Auvergne,0.1254161,0.1446566,0.04741 94,0.0129918,0.0434726,0.0039974,-0.0003394,0.0025128,0.0154076,0.0221721,-0.0024659,0.0073546,-0.0139686,-0.0096693,0.0082989,0.001483,-0.0007871,0.0014968,0.0030726,-0.000213,0.0018579,0.003737,-0.0022823,0.0018163,-8.87e-05
France:French_Bearn,0.1267991,0.1448145,0.0535889, 0.0060078,0.0539486,0.0021754,-0.001692,-0.0020537,0.024461,0.0398913,-0.0088665,0.0102359,-0.0189989,-0.0143265,0.0141693,0.001578,-0.0057238,-0.0008996,-0.0017346,-0.0033017,0.0054653,0.0031407,-0.0066429,-0.0081696,0.0006825
France:French_Bigorre,0.1280511,0.1473535,0.052269 ,0.0053295,0.0522249,-0.0008365,-0.0016685,0.0001617,0.0248088,0.0382695,-0.0030854,0.007883,-0.0214815,-0.0141476,0.0087403,0.0001856,-0.0035596,0.0023691,-0.0008926,-0.0029139,0.0025082,-0.0008902,-0.0032908,-0.0059043,0.0010298
France:French_Brittany,0.1314657,0.1383406,0.05785 04,0.0392849,0.0391688,0.0158131,0.0031549,0.00421 14,0.008186,0.0094899,-0.0051314,0.00559,-0.014368,-0.0131017,0.0183426,0.0043987,-0.0073016,0.0012795,-0.000462,0.0017727,0.0044671,0.0017868,-0.001254,0.0105465,0.0006586
France:French_Chalosse,0.1287339,0.1477596,0.05189 17,0.0111758,0.0513326,0.0027611,0.00047,0.0017769 ,0.0252587,0.0396544,-0.0026958,0.008947,-0.0203367,-0.0150834,0.0110884,0.0028241,-0.0054241,0.0016723,-0.0007794,-0.0022384,0.0082731,0.002844,-0.0076906,-0.0076635,-0.0020956
France:French_Corsica,0.1203273,0.1518216,0.019529 4,-0.0230022,0.0350394,-0.0100401,-0.0018464,-0.0005604,0.0157044,0.0337918,-0.0006031,0.0074612,-0.0132308,-0.0071074,-0.004537,-0.0005968,0.0040419,0.0012489,0.0024511,-0.0030461,-0.0003923,0.0002474,-0.0025793,-0.0013858,-0.0005303
France:French_Nord,0.1282752,0.1405432,0.0513571,0 .0256051,0.0382728,0.0088906,0.0010967,0.0044194,0 .008373,0.0120166,-0.003484,0.0040328,-0.0108613,-0.0081823,0.0111991,0.0025432,-0.0046069,0.0022266,0.0040947,0.0010308,0.0021327, 0.0015249,-0.0015724,0.0074707,1.45e-05
France:French_Occitanie,0.1270391,0.1448823,0.0488 79,0.0179086,0.0433756,0.0034164,0.0005222,0.00389 09,0.0148564,0.0235894,-0.0032883,0.0065816,-0.0150436,-0.0094578,0.010737,0.0025671,-0.0037088,0.0024846,0.0014247,4.52e-05,0.0036706,0.0024456,-0.0025505,0.0017673,0.0004224
France:French_Paris,0.1271714,0.1414355,0.0504313, 0.0239901,0.0409027,0.0093048,0.0027985,0.0054544, 0.0116022,0.0181739,-0.0077061,0.0068121,-0.0129065,-0.0103844,0.0137695,0.0060631,-0.0018255,0.0046644,0.0027082,-0.0009778,0.0022007,0.0035747,-0.0012325,0.0111405,-0.0019051
France:French_Pas-de-Calais,0.1278613,0.140482,0.0543053,0.026809,0.042 1617,0.0127363,0.0041517,0.0013073,0.0085217,0.012 4527,-0.0080113,0.002198,-0.0100097,-0.012019,0.0136627,0.008132,-0.000478,0.001816,-0.003645,0.004252,0.0099827,0.0014427,-0.002547,0.0059043,-0.001437
France:French_Provence,0.1219247,0.1438468,0.03689 14,0.005358,0.0368574,0.0023296,0.0022671,0.003637 9,0.0100577,0.0204533,-0.0038687,0.0072112,-0.0121376,-0.0109614,0.0059557,0.0031744,0.0010967,0.0028095, 0.0017746,-0.0015155,0.0015414,0.0027349,0.0003552,0.0054435, 3.52e-05
France:French_Seine-Maritime,0.1360185,0.1370965,0.0452545,0.0295545,0 .039084,0.0167335,0.00423,-0.000692,0.003988,0.006014,-0.003735,0.0074935,-0.0075815,-0.0016515,0.0142505,0.0035135,-0.0079535,-0.002344,0.0009425,-0.0050025,0.0039305,0.0055025,0.000863,0.0042775,-0.0044905
France:French_South,0.1261811,0.1447856,0.0496183, 0.0088594,0.0506907,0.0026694,0.0002686,0.0022747, 0.0276401,0.0386601,-0.0067741,0.0073649,-0.021853,-0.0135659,0.0103729,0.0027653,-0.0051034,0.0017917,0.0002154,0.0019116,0.0049911,-0.0008301,-0.0052646,-0.0075569,-0.00142
Portugal,0.1061741,0.1446114,0.0360075,-0.0044316,0.042137,-0.0040494,-0.0037412,0.0027598,0.0255982,0.029741,-0.000734,0.0074214,-0.0127373,-0.0112631,0.0125568,-0.0003978,-0.0011316,-0.0008869,-0.005762,-0.0002452,0.0011379,-0.002572,0.0013015,-0.0011326,-0.0001053
United_Kingdom(Gibraltar):English,0.1318551,0.1370 43,0.0617883,0.044013,0.0392299,0.0167481,0.004984 5,0.0057448,0.0052637,0.0056781,-0.0047691,0.0056161,-0.0125892,-0.0103507,0.0206153,0.0035521,-0.0103689,0.004094,0.003685,0.0029619,0.0059369,0. 0034036,-0.0032693,0.0137938,3.16e-05
Morocco,-0.0853671,0.1302133,-0.0128221,-0.0708806,0.0211321,-0.03294,-0.0277833,0.0097687,0.0554032,0.0243993,0.0095087,-0.0090252,0.0269902,-0.0144658,0.0163016,-0.0061874,-0.0027669,-0.0170326,-0.0384216,0.0094351,-0.0098438,-0.0295119,0.0209111,-0.0011248,0.0059207


Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 1.4833% / 0.01483254
57.8 France
42.2 Portugal

Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 1.7563% / 0.01756307
56.6 France
42.6 Portugal
0.8 Morocco

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Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 1.4833% / 0.01483255
42.4 Portugal
23.8 France:French_Chalosse
12.6 France:French_Bearn
12.4 France:French_South
5.6 France:French_Seine-Maritime
3.2 France:French_Corsica

Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 1.7563% / 0.01756307
44.4 France:French_Chalosse
42.6 Portugal
11.2 France:French_Seine-Maritime
1.0 France:French_Paris
0.8 Morocco


<tbody>
Distance to:
Beowulf_Scaled


0.01507130
France:French_Provence


0.01788317
France:French_Auvergne


0.02117311
France:French_Occitanie


0.02798568
France:French_Paris


0.02911633
France:French_Alsace


0.03041294
France:French_Nord


0.03226441
Portugal


0.03417100
France:French_South


0.03422299
France:French_Bigorre


0.03422971
France:French_Pas-de-Calais


0.03674878
France:French_Chalosse


0.03745157
France:French_Bearn


0.04189197
France:French_Seine-Maritime


0.04680249
France:French_Corsica


0.04715242
France:French_Brittany


0.05640035
United_Kingdom(Gibraltar):English


0.25028765
Morocco



</tbody>


Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 0.0126% / 0.01264091
97.3 France
1.8 Portugal
0.9 Morocco

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gixajo
07-30-2024, 11:54 AM
With a more fair French reference, using just Paris:

Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 2.1380% / 0.02138027
72.4 Portugal
27.6 France
0.0 Morocco
0.0 United_Kingdom(Gibraltar)

Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 2.1842% / 0.02184230
66.2 Portugal
33.8 France
0.0 Morocco
0.0 United_Kingdom(Gibraltar)

Adding Tuscany as Italy:


France:French_Paris,0.1271714,0.1414355,0.0504313, 0.0239901,0.0409027,0.0093048,0.0027985,0.0054544, 0.0116022,0.0181739,-0.0077061,0.0068121,-0.0129065,-0.0103844,0.0137695,0.0060631,-0.0018255,0.0046644,0.0027082,-0.0009778,0.0022007,0.0035747,-0.0012325,0.0111405,-0.0019051
Portugal,0.1061741,0.1446114,0.0360075,-0.0044316,0.042137,-0.0040494,-0.0037412,0.0027598,0.0255982,0.029741,-0.000734,0.0074214,-0.0127373,-0.0112631,0.0125568,-0.0003978,-0.0011316,-0.0008869,-0.005762,-0.0002452,0.0011379,-0.002572,0.0013015,-0.0011326,-0.0001053
United_Kingdom(Gibraltar):English,0.1318551,0.1370 43,0.0617883,0.044013,0.0392299,0.0167481,0.004984 5,0.0057448,0.0052637,0.0056781,-0.0047691,0.0056161,-0.0125892,-0.0103507,0.0206153,0.0035521,-0.0103689,0.004094,0.003685,0.0029619,0.0059369,0. 0034036,-0.0032693,0.0137938,3.16e-05
Morocco,-0.0853671,0.1302133,-0.0128221,-0.0708806,0.0211321,-0.03294,-0.0277833,0.0097687,0.0554032,0.0243993,0.0095087,-0.0090252,0.0269902,-0.0144658,0.0163016,-0.0061874,-0.0027669,-0.0170326,-0.0384216,0.0094351,-0.0098438,-0.0295119,0.0209111,-0.0011248,0.0059207
Italy:Italian_Tuscany,0.1188095,0.1477838,0.013881 6,-0.0210104,0.025294,-0.0089378,-0.0010631,-0.0016263,0.0056488,0.0232394,-0.0003092,0.0060661,-0.0114752,-0.0037026,-0.0022426,-0.0008145,0.0021544,0.0002896,0.0033339,-0.0038293,-0.0019669,0.0014072,-0.0007337,0.003196,-0.0012259


Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 2.1380% / 0.02138027
72.4 Portugal
27.6 France
0.0 Italy
0.0 Morocco
0.0 United_Kingdom(Gibraltar)

Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 2.1842% / 0.02184230
66.2 Portugal
33.8 France
0.0 Italy
0.0 Morocco
0.0 United_Kingdom(Gibraltar)

https://i.imgur.com/UdKoQKE.png

Vessna
07-30-2024, 12:52 PM
Target: Vessna_scaled
Distance: 1.4080% / 0.01407960
54.8 Lithuanian
28.4 Russian
11.4 Ukrainian
5.4 Polish

gixajo
07-30-2024, 12:59 PM
Target: Vessna_scaled
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I would have expected you used Karelian, Ingrian, Finnish, Saami etc... too.

Vessna
07-30-2024, 01:02 PM
I would have expected you used Karelian, Ingrian, Finnish, Saami etc... too.

I just used samples from countries that have a border with Belarus. I didn’t get any Latvian. I can add Finno-Ugrian samples for fun though.

gixajo
07-30-2024, 01:07 PM
Wrong thread...

gixajo
07-30-2024, 01:08 PM
Wrong thread...this goes to the Venezuelan elections thread...sorry. :picard2:

Vessna
07-30-2024, 01:09 PM
I would have expected you used Karelian, Ingrian, Finnish, Saami etc... too.

Adding Finno-Ugric samples didn’t change my results.

gixajo
07-30-2024, 01:09 PM
Wrong thread...

gixajo
07-30-2024, 01:10 PM
Sorry, wrong thread... :picard1:

EasternLusitanian
07-30-2024, 01:17 PM
Using gixajo's last samples:

Target: MV_scaled
Distance: 0.0191% / 0.01911235
83.0 Portugal
12.6 Italy
4.4 Morocco

gixajo
07-30-2024, 01:18 PM
Adding Finno-Ugric samples didn’t change my results.

But were from are you exactly??? Do you know it?

I mean, what is suposedly "your country" That from which have you searched for its neighboring countries?

if you are broadly "Baltic" you shouldn´t use any Baltic country reference, but those from neighbouring countries, etc...

I am Spanish and I haven´t used any Spanish reference...

RyoHazuki
07-30-2024, 01:20 PM
Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 1.0285% / 0.01028521
51.0 United_Kingdom(Gibraltar)
25.8 France
12.4 Scottish
10.8 Basque_French

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.7716% / 0.02771642
59.4 United_Kingdom(Gibraltar)
26.8 Scottish
12.2 Spanish_Asturias
1.6 Morocco

Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 1.0285% / 0.01028502
50.6 United_Kingdom(Gibraltar):English
16.2 France:French_Alsace
13.4 Scottish
11.0 Basque_French
7.8 France:French_Pas-de-Calais
1.0 France:French_Brittany

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.7716% / 0.02771642
59.4 United_Kingdom(Gibraltar):English
26.8 Scottish
12.2 Spanish_Asturias
1.6 Morocco

Vessna
07-30-2024, 01:50 PM
But were from are you exactly??? Do you know it?

I mean, what is suposedly "your country" That from which have you searched for its neighboring countries?

if you are broadly "Baltic" you shouldn´t use any Baltic country reference, but those from neighbouring countries, etc...

I am Spanish and I haven´t used any Spanish reference...

I am Belarusian and I didn’t use any Belarusian samples.
What other samples would I use? lol

vader
07-30-2024, 02:19 PM
As a Portuguese there isn’t much to do. So what I did was used an Andalusian source as I am from the Algarve, and then used a Gibraltar source that Gixajo used and a Moroccan source.

Target: Me+
Distance: 2.5788% / 0.02578848
79.4 Spanish_Andalucia
13.0 United_Kingdom(Gibraltar)
7.6 Morocco

gixajo
07-30-2024, 02:36 PM
I am Belarusian and I didn’t use any Belarusian samples.
What other samples would I use? lol

Oh well, if you are 100% Belarussian it´s ok what you did. I thought you were the typical American Euro-mutt with mostly "Baltic" +some other unknown ancestries, sorry.;)

Damiăo de Góis
07-30-2024, 03:04 PM
I'm aware i would need extra samples other than spanish to model me, but choosing only the spanish regions that border Portugal this is what i get:



Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon,0.1077523,0.1438667,0.0404 773,-0.0021533,0.0438027,0.0018593,-0.0017233,0.004615,0.0284287,0.0292183,-0.0023277,0.007843,-0.012091,-0.012019,0.01226,-0.006541,-0.0067797,-0.0017313,-0.004525,-0.0022927,0.000291,-0.0009067,0.0013147,-0.0025703,-0.002754
Spanish_Extremadura,0.1050967,0.1499597,0.033061,-0.0011843,0.0409303,-0.0027887,-0.003995,-0.0010003,0.024679,0.031223,-0.0012993,0.0050453,-0.0106047,-0.012248,0.007555,0.0026077,-0.002347,-0.003294,-0.0064107,0.000417,0.0021213,-0.00474,-0.0014787,-0.0027713,0.0014373
Spanish_Galicia,0.1087643,0.1464619,0.0410642,-0.0016509,0.0412043,-9.29e-05,-0.0054572,0.0024231,0.0247133,0.0300285,-0.0021291,0.0057365,-0.0126113,-0.0121567,0.0111441,0.0005893,-0.0042375,-0.0021607,-0.0050418,-0.0010076,0.0008734,-0.002899,-0.0008079,-0.0036818,0.0013038
Spanish_Andalucia,0.1081318,0.1460759,0.0357074,-0.003434,0.0452553,-0.0058567,-0.0019295,0.0026598,0.0247151,0.0311624,-0.0021538,0.0072724,-0.0132072,-0.0114083,0.0102433,-0.0024984,-0.0061762,-0.0011002,-0.0042604,-0.0021325,0.0029291,-0.0013016,-0.0019719,-0.0053334,0.0018844



Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.2414% / 0.02241418
79.6 Spanish_Andalucia
19.2 Spanish_Extremadura
1.2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

Vessna
07-30-2024, 03:19 PM
Oh well, if you are 100% Belarussian it´s ok what you did. I thought you were the typical American Euro-mutt with mostly "Baltic" +some other unknown ancestries, sorry.;)

Oh come on, I’ve been posting my results on TA for almost a year lol

vader
07-30-2024, 03:26 PM
I'm aware i would need extra samples other than spanish to model me, but choosing only the spanish regions that border Portugal this is what i get:



Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon,0.1077523,0.1438667,0.0404 773,-0.0021533,0.0438027,0.0018593,-0.0017233,0.004615,0.0284287,0.0292183,-0.0023277,0.007843,-0.012091,-0.012019,0.01226,-0.006541,-0.0067797,-0.0017313,-0.004525,-0.0022927,0.000291,-0.0009067,0.0013147,-0.0025703,-0.002754
Spanish_Extremadura,0.1050967,0.1499597,0.033061,-0.0011843,0.0409303,-0.0027887,-0.003995,-0.0010003,0.024679,0.031223,-0.0012993,0.0050453,-0.0106047,-0.012248,0.007555,0.0026077,-0.002347,-0.003294,-0.0064107,0.000417,0.0021213,-0.00474,-0.0014787,-0.0027713,0.0014373
Spanish_Galicia,0.1087643,0.1464619,0.0410642,-0.0016509,0.0412043,-9.29e-05,-0.0054572,0.0024231,0.0247133,0.0300285,-0.0021291,0.0057365,-0.0126113,-0.0121567,0.0111441,0.0005893,-0.0042375,-0.0021607,-0.0050418,-0.0010076,0.0008734,-0.002899,-0.0008079,-0.0036818,0.0013038
Spanish_Andalucia,0.1081318,0.1460759,0.0357074,-0.003434,0.0452553,-0.0058567,-0.0019295,0.0026598,0.0247151,0.0311624,-0.0021538,0.0072724,-0.0132072,-0.0114083,0.0102433,-0.0024984,-0.0061762,-0.0011002,-0.0042604,-0.0021325,0.0029291,-0.0013016,-0.0019719,-0.0053334,0.0018844



Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.2414% / 0.02241418
79.6 Spanish_Andalucia
19.2 Spanish_Extremadura
1.2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

Target: Me_merged_scaled
Distance: 1.6705% / 0.01670471
50.6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
43.8 Spanish_Extremadura
5.4 Spanish_Andalucia
0.2 Spanish_Galicia

gixajo
07-30-2024, 03:29 PM
Oh come on, I’ve been posting my results on TA for almost a year lol

I'm very sorry Vessna, but I didn't remember that information, I only vaguely remembered that you were "from that area of NE Europe".

And your avatar information does not guarantee anything either, like mine right now.

What are my paternal and maternal origins? Do you remember them?

J. Ketch
07-30-2024, 03:42 PM
https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

ie neighbouring countries to those you're from.

Mine



Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 1.7996% / 0.01799629
Aggregated
53.4 Scottish
24.4 Icelandic
22.2 French_Brittany

Without British/Irish references

Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 1.8593% / 0.01859259
Aggregated
52.4 French_Brittany
47.0 Icelandic
0.6 Dutch


Mother (English)



Target: CreodaMum_scaled
Distance: 1.6726% / 0.01672613
Aggregated
38.0 Norwegian
34.2 Welsh
20.8 German
7.0 French_Brittany

Without British references

Target: CreodaMum_scaled
Distance: 1.6929% / 0.01692910
Aggregated
44.2 Norwegian
26.8 German
24.8 French_Brittany
3.8 French_Rennes_Bretagne
0.4 Belgian


Father (Irish)



Target: CreodaDad_scaled
Distance: 2.2878% / 0.02287834
Aggregated
54.0 Icelandic
39.0 Scottish
7.0 English_Cornwall

Without British/Irish

Target: CreodaDad_scaled
Distance: 2.3237% / 0.02323726
Aggregated
72.2 Icelandic
27.2 French_Brittany
0.4 French_Rennes_Bretagne
0.2 Dutch

Since this is nearly 5 years old I might as well try this again.

Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 1.8217% / 0.01821739
80.4 Scottish
19.6 Icelandic

Target: CreodaMum_scaled (English)
Distance: 1.6273% / 0.01627283
68.6 Norwegian
31.4 BelgianB

Target: CreodaDad_scaled (Irish)
Distance: 2.2889% / 0.02288886
52.4 Icelandic
47.6 Scottish

Without British Isles references:

Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 1.9552% / 0.01955163
68.8 Icelandic
26.0 BelgianA
5.2 French_Brittany

Target: CreodaDad_scaled (Irish)
Distance: 2.3237% / 0.02323677
82.0 Icelandic
18.0 BelgianA

Vessna
07-30-2024, 04:16 PM
I'm very sorry Vessna, but I didn't remember that information, I only vaguely remembered that you were "from that area of NE Europe".

And your avatar information does not guarantee anything either, like mine right now.

What are my paternal and maternal origins? Do you remember them?

Well, “that” area of the NE Europe is not inhabited by American euromutts :P

But all good. I guess I just have a better memory than most. I know you’re Spanish and work night shifts in the hospital. I remember patient cases you discussed in the chat.

noricum
07-30-2024, 04:25 PM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 1.9417% / 0.01941745
73.0 German_East
10.4 Sorb_Niederlausitz
6.4 Italian_Lombardy
5.6 Italian_Liguria
4.6 Hungarian

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
07-30-2024, 04:27 PM
Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 1.9453% / 0.01945295
58.2 Spanish_Andalucia
41.8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

All of the Spanish samples:

Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 1.8484% / 0.01848445
29.0 Spanish_Asturias
20.4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
19.6 Spanish_Menorca
18.6 Spanish_Canarias
12.4 Spanish_Andalucia

Alenka
07-30-2024, 04:30 PM
Well, “that” area of the NE Europe is not inhabited by American euromutts :P

But all good. I guess I just have a better memory than most. I know you’re Spanish and work night shifts in the hospital. I remember patient cases you discussed in the chat.
He did what?! :eek:

Ensuring the discretion and confidentiality of patients' healthcare data be damned, huh? :tsk:

Vessna
07-30-2024, 04:50 PM
He did what?! :eek:

Ensuring the discretion and confidentiality of patients' healthcare data be damned, huh? :tsk:

It’s not a violation to discuss general cases without the use of personal identifiers or naming the facility eg saying something like “I once had a patient with XYZ” is not a violation of patient confidentiality.

Alenka
07-30-2024, 05:08 PM
It’s not a violation to discuss general cases without the use of personal identifiers or naming the facility eg saying something like “I once had a patient with XYZ” is not a violation of patient confidentiality.
:rolleyes:

rothaer
07-30-2024, 07:20 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Ma59Wf5.jpeg

rothaer
07-30-2024, 07:25 PM
:rolleyes:

Vessna is right but you and the general experience show that even intelligent people become insecure if they hear anything like that.

This is why f. i. I refrain from talking much about law cases also in a generalised way even if it would be flawless to do so.

gixajo
07-30-2024, 08:27 PM
He did what?! :eek:

Ensuring the discretion and confidentiality of patients' healthcare data be damned, huh? :tsk:

I am quite clear about the data protection law, and I know perfectly well what I can and cannot say.

As you will understand, it is not the same to talk about a "a Pakistani patient who was left in a coma at 37 years old after giving birth, whose room is right in front of the office where I sleep when I am at night, than to publish a photo with the number of registered name and surname, medical center, telephone number, etc. of a doctor. To give just one example of something that does violate the data protection law.

So if your intention is to "spread shit" on me using any means, just for disagreeing with you on some issues, you can go look for something else.

You can use personal topics that I have released in moments of weakness in the chatbox, just like CFG did, for example.

Vessna
07-30-2024, 09:28 PM
Vessna is right but you and the general experience show that even intelligent people become insecure if they hear anything like that.

This is why f. i. I refrain from talking much about law cases also in a generalised way even if it would be flawless to do so.

I rephrased it for you. General experience shows that most people are not educated nor intelligent enough to understand the difference between privacy violation and professional information exchange. Although, in my opinion, it is different in a lawyer - client relationship as law cases tend to be more specific than medical cases. Latter tent to be more or less similar as there is a limited number of presentations and outcomes of a single disease.

gixajo
07-30-2024, 09:46 PM
But all good. I guess I just have a better memory than most.


I also have a better memory than most, but I can't always remember everything. Neither you, nor anyone.

I could excuse myself with the fact that I have my mind on a thousand different things, that TA is just an internet forum and that I don't have to remember things precisely about something that really is just a light way to pass the time and with relative importance in my life, or that the poor quality of my sleep or my age affects me more and more, but they would just be excuses.

I just had the wrong idea about your true origins, Vessna, that's all.:noidea:

Has such a thing offended you so much?

I am Spanish yes, but my father is from Andalusia and my mother is Basque.

Alenka
07-30-2024, 09:52 PM
I rephrased it for you. General experience shows that most people are not educated nor intelligent enough to understand the difference between privacy violation and professional information exchange. Although, in my opinion, it is different in a lawyer - client relationship as law cases tend to be more specific than medical cases. Latter tent to be more or less similar as there is a limited number of presentations and outcomes of a single disease.
Discussing patient cases in the Apricity chat = professional information exchange?

Okayyy. :lol:

rothaer
07-30-2024, 09:54 PM
I rephrased it for you. General experience shows that most people are not educated nor intelligent enough to understand the difference between privacy violation and professional information exchange. Although, in my opinion, it is different in a lawyer - client relationship as law cases tend to be more specific than medical cases. Latter tent to be more or less similar as there is a limited number of presentations and outcomes of a single disease.

Thank you. :p

I believe that the key point for people with a duty of confidentiality is to avoid giving the impression that they are talkative and have their own need to share.

Only then does the question arise for the layperson as to whether the legally required confidentiality is being observed. Naturally, the layman cannot practically control this latter question himself.

As for the comparison of law and medical cases I assume no essential difference in that specificy topic. You may be right as for the whole case story but as for law cases you would in a professional exchange regularly just share relevant fractions of it while in medical cases the "whole story" (the history) may be more relevant.

cass
07-30-2024, 09:56 PM
Target: cass
Distance: 0.7279% / 0.00727933
29.4 German
25.4 Lithuanian
18.2 Ukrainian_Lviv
16.8 German_Hamburg
5.8 Ukrainian_Pontic
3.8 Swedish
0.6 Ukrainian_Dnipro_o


with additional "German" local samples

Target: cass
Distance: 0.7515% / 0.00751462 | ADC: 0.25x
57.6 German_Pomerania
16.2 Czech
12.0 Ukrainian_Pontic
6.8 Ukrainian_Lviv
3.4 Lithuanian
2.6 German_West_Prussia
1.0 German_Lower_Silesia
0.4 German_Saxony

rothaer
07-30-2024, 10:00 PM
Discussing patient cases in the Apricity chat = professional information exchange?

Okayyy. :lol:

Aren't the CDC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention hosting the Apricity chat box? :confused:

Alenka
07-30-2024, 10:02 PM
Aren't the CDC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention hosting the Apricity chat box? :confused:
I guess. :laugh:

Demirkazık
07-30-2024, 10:07 PM
:offtopid:

Target: Demir
Distance: 2.4939% / 0.02493851
51.8 Turkmen_Iran
26.0 Pomak_Rhodope_Mountains
17.6 Karaite_Iraq
4.6 Georgian_Ratcha

~Elizabeth~
07-30-2024, 10:07 PM
I am quite clear about the data protection law, and I know perfectly well what I can and cannot say.

As you will understand, it is not the same to talk about a "a Pakistani patient who was left in a coma at 37 years old after giving birth, whose room is right in front of the office where I sleep when I am at night, than to publish a photo with the number of registered name and surname, medical center, telephone number, etc. of a doctor. To give just one example of something that does violate the data protection law.

So if your intention is to "spread shit" on me using any means, just for disagreeing with you on some issues, you can go look for something else.

You can use personal topics that I have released in moments of weakness in the chatbox, just like CFG did, for example.

I missed that. What did CFG say?

djipon
07-30-2024, 10:28 PM
Target: djipon_AncestryDNA_scaled
Distance: 1.9940% / 0.01994002
52.0 North_Macedonian
24.2 Serbian
19.8 Turkish_Rumeli
4.0 Greek_Thessaly

Target: djipon_SuperKit(AncestryDNA+MyHeritage)_scaled
Distance: 2.0131% / 0.02013079
51.4 North_Macedonian
24.0 Serbian
18.2 Turkish_Rumeli
6.4 Greek_Thessaly

Thurisaz
07-30-2024, 11:13 PM
From the Mariopoolous collection without sims :


With Dutch Isamples :

Target: Thurisaz_scaled
Distance: 1.5771% / 0.01577054 | R5P
66.6 Dutch_South_Holland
17.6 Dutch_Central
11.0 French_Oil_Normandy_Orne
2.8 French_Oil_Hauts-de-France_Nord_o1_(Flemish_Profile)
2.0 Greenlander_West


Following Creoda's directions with one exception : Norway

Target: Thurisaz_scaled
Distance: 2.1854% / 0.02185439
30.4 Norwegian_Bergen
27.6 German_Lower_Saxony
24.0 French_Oil_Normandy_Orne
18.0 France_Nord_o1_(Flemish_Profile)
:

celticdragongod
07-30-2024, 11:25 PM
France:French_Alsace,0.1273112,0.1403715,0.0503172 ,0.0224324,0.0384224,0.0089105,0.0029199,0.0048748 ,0.0068516,0.010679,-0.0031341,0.0045785,-0.0094438,-0.0041699,0.0085606,0.0030662,-0.0048927,0.0024387,0.003243,-0.000716,0.0027639,0.0011562,-0.0013219,0.0071364,-0.0003143
France:French_Auvergne,0.1254161,0.1446566,0.04741 94,0.0129918,0.0434726,0.0039974,-0.0003394,0.0025128,0.0154076,0.0221721,-0.0024659,0.0073546,-0.0139686,-0.0096693,0.0082989,0.001483,-0.0007871,0.0014968,0.0030726,-0.000213,0.0018579,0.003737,-0.0022823,0.0018163,-8.87e-05
France:French_Bearn,0.1267991,0.1448145,0.0535889, 0.0060078,0.0539486,0.0021754,-0.001692,-0.0020537,0.024461,0.0398913,-0.0088665,0.0102359,-0.0189989,-0.0143265,0.0141693,0.001578,-0.0057238,-0.0008996,-0.0017346,-0.0033017,0.0054653,0.0031407,-0.0066429,-0.0081696,0.0006825
France:French_Bigorre,0.1280511,0.1473535,0.052269 ,0.0053295,0.0522249,-0.0008365,-0.0016685,0.0001617,0.0248088,0.0382695,-0.0030854,0.007883,-0.0214815,-0.0141476,0.0087403,0.0001856,-0.0035596,0.0023691,-0.0008926,-0.0029139,0.0025082,-0.0008902,-0.0032908,-0.0059043,0.0010298
France:French_Brittany,0.1314657,0.1383406,0.05785 04,0.0392849,0.0391688,0.0158131,0.0031549,0.00421 14,0.008186,0.0094899,-0.0051314,0.00559,-0.014368,-0.0131017,0.0183426,0.0043987,-0.0073016,0.0012795,-0.000462,0.0017727,0.0044671,0.0017868,-0.001254,0.0105465,0.0006586
France:French_Chalosse,0.1287339,0.1477596,0.05189 17,0.0111758,0.0513326,0.0027611,0.00047,0.0017769 ,0.0252587,0.0396544,-0.0026958,0.008947,-0.0203367,-0.0150834,0.0110884,0.0028241,-0.0054241,0.0016723,-0.0007794,-0.0022384,0.0082731,0.002844,-0.0076906,-0.0076635,-0.0020956
France:French_Corsica,0.1203273,0.1518216,0.019529 4,-0.0230022,0.0350394,-0.0100401,-0.0018464,-0.0005604,0.0157044,0.0337918,-0.0006031,0.0074612,-0.0132308,-0.0071074,-0.004537,-0.0005968,0.0040419,0.0012489,0.0024511,-0.0030461,-0.0003923,0.0002474,-0.0025793,-0.0013858,-0.0005303
France:French_Nord,0.1282752,0.1405432,0.0513571,0 .0256051,0.0382728,0.0088906,0.0010967,0.0044194,0 .008373,0.0120166,-0.003484,0.0040328,-0.0108613,-0.0081823,0.0111991,0.0025432,-0.0046069,0.0022266,0.0040947,0.0010308,0.0021327, 0.0015249,-0.0015724,0.0074707,1.45e-05
France:French_Occitanie,0.1270391,0.1448823,0.0488 79,0.0179086,0.0433756,0.0034164,0.0005222,0.00389 09,0.0148564,0.0235894,-0.0032883,0.0065816,-0.0150436,-0.0094578,0.010737,0.0025671,-0.0037088,0.0024846,0.0014247,4.52e-05,0.0036706,0.0024456,-0.0025505,0.0017673,0.0004224
France:French_Paris,0.1271714,0.1414355,0.0504313, 0.0239901,0.0409027,0.0093048,0.0027985,0.0054544, 0.0116022,0.0181739,-0.0077061,0.0068121,-0.0129065,-0.0103844,0.0137695,0.0060631,-0.0018255,0.0046644,0.0027082,-0.0009778,0.0022007,0.0035747,-0.0012325,0.0111405,-0.0019051
France:French_Pas-de-Calais,0.1278613,0.140482,0.0543053,0.026809,0.042 1617,0.0127363,0.0041517,0.0013073,0.0085217,0.012 4527,-0.0080113,0.002198,-0.0100097,-0.012019,0.0136627,0.008132,-0.000478,0.001816,-0.003645,0.004252,0.0099827,0.0014427,-0.002547,0.0059043,-0.001437
France:French_Provence,0.1219247,0.1438468,0.03689 14,0.005358,0.0368574,0.0023296,0.0022671,0.003637 9,0.0100577,0.0204533,-0.0038687,0.0072112,-0.0121376,-0.0109614,0.0059557,0.0031744,0.0010967,0.0028095, 0.0017746,-0.0015155,0.0015414,0.0027349,0.0003552,0.0054435, 3.52e-05
France:French_Seine-Maritime,0.1360185,0.1370965,0.0452545,0.0295545,0 .039084,0.0167335,0.00423,-0.000692,0.003988,0.006014,-0.003735,0.0074935,-0.0075815,-0.0016515,0.0142505,0.0035135,-0.0079535,-0.002344,0.0009425,-0.0050025,0.0039305,0.0055025,0.000863,0.0042775,-0.0044905
France:French_South,0.1261811,0.1447856,0.0496183, 0.0088594,0.0506907,0.0026694,0.0002686,0.0022747, 0.0276401,0.0386601,-0.0067741,0.0073649,-0.021853,-0.0135659,0.0103729,0.0027653,-0.0051034,0.0017917,0.0002154,0.0019116,0.0049911,-0.0008301,-0.0052646,-0.0075569,-0.00142
Portugal,0.1061741,0.1446114,0.0360075,-0.0044316,0.042137,-0.0040494,-0.0037412,0.0027598,0.0255982,0.029741,-0.000734,0.0074214,-0.0127373,-0.0112631,0.0125568,-0.0003978,-0.0011316,-0.0008869,-0.005762,-0.0002452,0.0011379,-0.002572,0.0013015,-0.0011326,-0.0001053
United_Kingdom(Gibraltar):English,0.1318551,0.1370 43,0.0617883,0.044013,0.0392299,0.0167481,0.004984 5,0.0057448,0.0052637,0.0056781,-0.0047691,0.0056161,-0.0125892,-0.0103507,0.0206153,0.0035521,-0.0103689,0.004094,0.003685,0.0029619,0.0059369,0. 0034036,-0.0032693,0.0137938,3.16e-05
Morocco,-0.0853671,0.1302133,-0.0128221,-0.0708806,0.0211321,-0.03294,-0.0277833,0.0097687,0.0554032,0.0243993,0.0095087,-0.0090252,0.0269902,-0.0144658,0.0163016,-0.0061874,-0.0027669,-0.0170326,-0.0384216,0.0094351,-0.0098438,-0.0295119,0.0209111,-0.0011248,0.0059207


Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 1.4833% / 0.01483254
57.8 France
42.2 Portugal

Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 1.7563% / 0.01756307
56.6 France
42.6 Portugal
0.8 Morocco

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Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 1.4833% / 0.01483255
42.4 Portugal
23.8 France:French_Chalosse
12.6 France:French_Bearn
12.4 France:French_South
5.6 France:French_Seine-Maritime
3.2 France:French_Corsica

Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 1.7563% / 0.01756307
44.4 France:French_Chalosse
42.6 Portugal
11.2 France:French_Seine-Maritime
1.0 France:French_Paris
0.8 Morocco

https://i.imgur.com/UWInRFR.png

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01905219 United_Kingdom(Gibraltar):English
0.02452252 France:French_Brittany
0.03819977 France:French_Nord
0.03871886 France:French_Seine-Maritime
0.04162023 France:French_Alsace
0.04182565 France:French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04258030 France:French_Paris
0.05363303 France:French_Occitanie
0.05752310 France:French_Auvergne
0.06554767 France:French_Provence
0.07364122 France:French_Chalosse
0.07383778 France:French_South
0.07616367 France:French_Bigorre
0.07676508 France:French_Bearn
0.08460379 Portugal
0.10599428 France:French_Corsica
0.28559698 Morocco

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.9052% / 0.01905219
100.0 United_Kingdom(Gibraltar)

celticdragongod
07-30-2024, 11:28 PM
I'm aware i would need extra samples other than spanish to model me, but choosing only the spanish regions that border Portugal this is what i get:



Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon,0.1077523,0.1438667,0.0404 773,-0.0021533,0.0438027,0.0018593,-0.0017233,0.004615,0.0284287,0.0292183,-0.0023277,0.007843,-0.012091,-0.012019,0.01226,-0.006541,-0.0067797,-0.0017313,-0.004525,-0.0022927,0.000291,-0.0009067,0.0013147,-0.0025703,-0.002754
Spanish_Extremadura,0.1050967,0.1499597,0.033061,-0.0011843,0.0409303,-0.0027887,-0.003995,-0.0010003,0.024679,0.031223,-0.0012993,0.0050453,-0.0106047,-0.012248,0.007555,0.0026077,-0.002347,-0.003294,-0.0064107,0.000417,0.0021213,-0.00474,-0.0014787,-0.0027713,0.0014373
Spanish_Galicia,0.1087643,0.1464619,0.0410642,-0.0016509,0.0412043,-9.29e-05,-0.0054572,0.0024231,0.0247133,0.0300285,-0.0021291,0.0057365,-0.0126113,-0.0121567,0.0111441,0.0005893,-0.0042375,-0.0021607,-0.0050418,-0.0010076,0.0008734,-0.002899,-0.0008079,-0.0036818,0.0013038
Spanish_Andalucia,0.1081318,0.1460759,0.0357074,-0.003434,0.0452553,-0.0058567,-0.0019295,0.0026598,0.0247151,0.0311624,-0.0021538,0.0072724,-0.0132072,-0.0114083,0.0102433,-0.0024984,-0.0061762,-0.0011002,-0.0042604,-0.0021325,0.0029291,-0.0013016,-0.0019719,-0.0053334,0.0018844



Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.2414% / 0.02241418
79.6 Spanish_Andalucia
19.2 Spanish_Extremadura
1.2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.07982414 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.08026390 Spanish_Galicia
0.08547895 Spanish_Andalucia
0.08658656 Spanish_Extremadura

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 7.9765% / 0.07976514
74.4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
25.6 Spanish_Galicia

celticdragongod
07-30-2024, 11:31 PM
With a more fair French reference, using just Paris:

Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 2.1380% / 0.02138027
72.4 Portugal
27.6 France
0.0 Morocco
0.0 United_Kingdom(Gibraltar)

Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 2.1842% / 0.02184230
66.2 Portugal
33.8 France
0.0 Morocco
0.0 United_Kingdom(Gibraltar)

Adding Tuscany as Italy:


France:French_Paris,0.1271714,0.1414355,0.0504313, 0.0239901,0.0409027,0.0093048,0.0027985,0.0054544, 0.0116022,0.0181739,-0.0077061,0.0068121,-0.0129065,-0.0103844,0.0137695,0.0060631,-0.0018255,0.0046644,0.0027082,-0.0009778,0.0022007,0.0035747,-0.0012325,0.0111405,-0.0019051
Portugal,0.1061741,0.1446114,0.0360075,-0.0044316,0.042137,-0.0040494,-0.0037412,0.0027598,0.0255982,0.029741,-0.000734,0.0074214,-0.0127373,-0.0112631,0.0125568,-0.0003978,-0.0011316,-0.0008869,-0.005762,-0.0002452,0.0011379,-0.002572,0.0013015,-0.0011326,-0.0001053
United_Kingdom(Gibraltar):English,0.1318551,0.1370 43,0.0617883,0.044013,0.0392299,0.0167481,0.004984 5,0.0057448,0.0052637,0.0056781,-0.0047691,0.0056161,-0.0125892,-0.0103507,0.0206153,0.0035521,-0.0103689,0.004094,0.003685,0.0029619,0.0059369,0. 0034036,-0.0032693,0.0137938,3.16e-05
Morocco,-0.0853671,0.1302133,-0.0128221,-0.0708806,0.0211321,-0.03294,-0.0277833,0.0097687,0.0554032,0.0243993,0.0095087,-0.0090252,0.0269902,-0.0144658,0.0163016,-0.0061874,-0.0027669,-0.0170326,-0.0384216,0.0094351,-0.0098438,-0.0295119,0.0209111,-0.0011248,0.0059207
Italy:Italian_Tuscany,0.1188095,0.1477838,0.013881 6,-0.0210104,0.025294,-0.0089378,-0.0010631,-0.0016263,0.0056488,0.0232394,-0.0003092,0.0060661,-0.0114752,-0.0037026,-0.0022426,-0.0008145,0.0021544,0.0002896,0.0033339,-0.0038293,-0.0019669,0.0014072,-0.0007337,0.003196,-0.0012259


Target: gixajo_scaled(MyHeritage)
Distance: 2.1380% / 0.02138027
72.4 Portugal
27.6 France
0.0 Italy
0.0 Morocco
0.0 United_Kingdom(Gibraltar)

Target: gixajo_scaled(23andMe)
Distance: 2.1842% / 0.02184230
66.2 Portugal
33.8 France
0.0 Italy
0.0 Morocco
0.0 United_Kingdom(Gibraltar)

https://i.imgur.com/UdKoQKE.png

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01905219 United_Kingdom(Gibraltar):English
0.04258030 France:French_Paris
0.08460379 Portugal
0.10266177 Italy:Italian_Tuscany
0.28559698 Morocco

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.9052% / 0.01905219
100.0 United_Kingdom(Gibraltar)

Vessna
07-31-2024, 12:03 AM
Discussing patient cases in the Apricity chat = professional information exchange?

Okayyy. :lol:

Nothing private was shared in the chat, just a general discussion of quite generic cases. It wasn’t the exchange between two laypersons thus it was professional. Not going to repeat myself to explain how it doesn’t violate anything.

gixajo
07-31-2024, 05:54 AM
Thank you. :p

I believe that the key point for people with a duty of confidentiality is to avoid giving the impression that they are talkative and have their own need to share.

Only then does the question arise for the layperson as to whether the legally required confidentiality is being observed. Naturally, the layman cannot practically control this latter question himself.

As for the comparison of law and medical cases I assume no essential difference in that specificy topic. You may be right as for the whole case story but as for law cases you would in a professional exchange regularly just share relevant fractions of it while in medical cases the "whole story" (the history) may be more relevant.

Now I understand the way you redirect your emotions. ;)

MCMXCV
07-31-2024, 09:40 AM
(Using simulated G25 coordinates.)


Target: MCMXCV
Distance: 0.1898% / 0.00189801
42.4 Hungarian
35.4 Austrian
16.4 Croatian
5.8 Italian_Aosta_Valley

Target: Parent
Distance: 0.2789% / 0.00278880
37.0 Hungarian
34.6 Austrian
14.0 Croatian
11.0 Italian_Aosta_Valley
3.2 Italian_Veneto
0.2 Italian_Northeast

Target: Grandparent 1
Distance: 0.8963% / 0.00896278
58.4 Austrian
20.8 Hungarian
18.6 Croatian
1.4 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.8 Italian_Bergamo

Target: Grandparent 2
Distance: 0.9186% / 0.00918617
49.2 Hungarian
43.0 Austrian
7.8 Italian_Aosta_Valley

rothaer
07-31-2024, 09:51 AM
Now I understand the way you redirect your emotions. ;)

Yes, dealing with the beautiful but unruly Vessna is an important outlet for my pent-up emotions. :thumb001:

rothaer
07-31-2024, 09:54 AM
(...)

Would be interesting for comparability to see the results (including maybe distance issues) with the fixed source that I used.


Danish,0.1312479,0.1350654,0.0663779,0.0524377,0.0 413029,0.0194569,0.0051584,0.0074014,0.0034365,-0.002558,-0.0053588,0.0034802,-0.0085067,-0.0070935,0.0186691,0.0061171,-0.0065193,0.0020474,0.0032402,0.0043462,0.0056397, 0.0024349,0.0006923,0.013774,0.0002011
Polish,0.1318405,0.1292694,0.0698685,0.0577382,0.0 406754,0.0217127,0.0086781,0.0108626,-0.0009329,-0.0185524,-0.0043488,-0.0064187,0.013093,0.0186295,-0.0070244,-0.0005595,0.0015455,-7.41e-05,0.0026948,0.0012872,-0.0031286,-0.0031185,0.0056063,-0.0033328,-8.76e-05
Italian_Lombardy,0.1245224,0.147861,0.0279822,-0.0137598,0.0327446,-0.007753,0.000658,0,0.0103898,0.0299232,-0.0025008,0.008932,-0.0143606,-0.0047066,-0.0008686,-0.0078758,-0.0083448,0.0017738,0.0034442,-0.004102,-0.002246,0.0012366,-0.0006656,0.0030602,0.0008382

MCMXCV
07-31-2024, 10:01 AM
Would be interesting for comparability to see the results (including maybe distance issues) with the fixed source that I used.


Danish,0.1312479,0.1350654,0.0663779,0.0524377,0.0 413029,0.0194569,0.0051584,0.0074014,0.0034365,-0.002558,-0.0053588,0.0034802,-0.0085067,-0.0070935,0.0186691,0.0061171,-0.0065193,0.0020474,0.0032402,0.0043462,0.0056397, 0.0024349,0.0006923,0.013774,0.0002011
Polish,0.1318405,0.1292694,0.0698685,0.0577382,0.0 406754,0.0217127,0.0086781,0.0108626,-0.0009329,-0.0185524,-0.0043488,-0.0064187,0.013093,0.0186295,-0.0070244,-0.0005595,0.0015455,-7.41e-05,0.0026948,0.0012872,-0.0031286,-0.0031185,0.0056063,-0.0033328,-8.76e-05
Italian_Lombardy,0.1245224,0.147861,0.0279822,-0.0137598,0.0327446,-0.007753,0.000658,0,0.0103898,0.0299232,-0.0025008,0.008932,-0.0143606,-0.0047066,-0.0008686,-0.0078758,-0.0083448,0.0017738,0.0034442,-0.004102,-0.002246,0.0012366,-0.0006656,0.0030602,0.0008382


Here you go:


Target: MCMXCV
Distance: 0.7597% / 0.00759696
57.2 Polish
25.6 Italian_Lombardy
17.2 Danish

Target: Parent
Distance: 0.9799% / 0.00979908
47.2 Polish
30.2 Italian_Lombardy
22.6 Danish

Target: Grandparent 1
Distance: 1.2879% / 0.01287905
54.2 Polish
28.0 Italian_Lombardy
17.8 Danish

Target: Grandparent 2
Distance: 0.6893% / 0.00689299
40.4 Polish
40.2 Danish
19.4 Italian_Lombardy

rothaer
07-31-2024, 10:18 AM
(...)

:shocked: Vessna, would you mind removing your new profile pic as it causes me problems to concentrate on other things?

rothaer
07-31-2024, 10:22 AM
Here you go:


Target: MCMXCV
Distance: 0.7597% / 0.00759696
57.2 Polish
25.6 Italian_Lombardy
17.2 Danish

Target: Parent
Distance: 0.9799% / 0.00979908
47.2 Polish
30.2 Italian_Lombardy
22.6 Danish

Target: Grandparent 1
Distance: 1.2879% / 0.01287905
54.2 Polish
28.0 Italian_Lombardy
17.8 Danish

Target: Grandparent 2
Distance: 0.6893% / 0.00689299
40.4 Polish
40.2 Danish
19.4 Italian_Lombardy

Very interesting. And with stunning low distances.

Perhaps there are some Alpine features in Lombardy that are suitable for modelling Slovenes.

Grace O'Malley
07-31-2024, 10:53 AM
These are the populations I used.


Icelandic,0.132698,0.133626,0.067819,0.05631,0.039 366,0.022962,0.003349,0.008519,0.002642,6.1e-05,-0.005481,0.00517,-0.006368,-0.009083,0.023072,0.005293,-0.011691,0.001911,0.001739,0.003887,0.009255,0.002 803,-0.000842,0.014018,0.000828
Welsh,0.131978,0.138163,0.060132,0.043024,0.040592 ,0.016622,0.003314,0.006392,0.006279,0.004337,-0.00423,0.005912,-0.012911,-0.010975,0.020596,0.005708,-0.008703,0.002356,0.003086,0.002007,0.004985,0.003 852,-1.2e-05,0.011224,0.000808
Orcadian,0.130669,0.134253,0.062979,0.04845,0.0387 15,0.017542,0.001786,0.003923,0.005031,0.001786,-0.006837,0.004811,-0.011908,-0.010831,0.022353,0.003036,-0.012386,0.003471,0.002677,3e-04,0.004954,0.00225,-0.002157,0.010038,-0.000599
Danish,0.131248,0.135065,0.066378,0.052438,0.04130 3,0.019457,0.005159,0.007401,0.003436,-0.002558,-0.005359,0.00348,-0.008507,-0.007093,0.018669,0.006117,-0.006519,0.002047,0.00324,0.004346,0.00564,0.00243 5,0.000692,0.013774,0.000201
Norwegian,0.132092,0.129455,0.068051,0.054531,0.04 0323,0.019871,0.00416,0.006092,0.006151,-0.002287,-0.004644,0.004275,-0.009236,-0.01015,0.020253,0.006557,-0.0072,0.00331,0.002976,0.004108,0.005681,0.00409, 0.000887,0.014107,-6.9e-05
Scottish,0.131466,0.134232,0.062265,0.047043,0.039 106,0.017281,0.00355,0.005176,0.003572,0.002825,-0.005614,0.005047,-0.01168,-0.011973,0.023024,0.003125,-0.011255,0.002774,0.00255,0.001452,0.004225,0.0033 08,-0.000656,0.013556,-0.00077
French_Brittany,0.131466,0.13834,0.05785,0.039285, 0.039169,0.015813,0.003155,0.004211,0.008186,0.009 49,-0.005131,0.00559,-0.014368,-0.013102,0.018343,0.004399,-0.007302,0.00128,-0.000462,0.001773,0.004467,0.001787,-0.001254,0.010547,0.000659
Shetlandic,0.134311,0.133373,0.060842,0.047912,0.0 40418,0.019429,0.00423,0.004692,0.003545,-0.004131,-0.003951,0.006744,-0.011546,-0.012615,0.021308,0.002608,-0.008736,0.001436,0.002975,-0.00246,0.003203,0.002679,0.006286,0.018798,0.0026 74
English,0.131855,0.137043,0.061788,0.044013,0.0392 3,0.016748,0.004985,0.005745,0.005264,0.005678,-0.004769,0.005616,-0.012589,-0.010351,0.020615,0.003552,-0.010369,0.004094,0.003685,0.002962,0.005937,0.003 404,-0.003269,0.013794,3.1e-05
English_Cornwall,0.130197,0.139752,0.061355,0.0431 83,0.041901,0.016412,0.003435,0.00639,0.006482,0.0 06967,-0.004634,0.006479,-0.013745,-0.010248,0.020755,0.003172,-0.012527,0.002115,0.003761,0.003242,0.004809,0.003 871,-0.000758,0.014367,0.000691
Dutch,0.127441,0.134179,0.060271,0.044076,0.040844 ,0.016397,0.005402,0.007263,0.004209,0.001924,-0.005635,0.004427,-0.009846,-0.008676,0.01783,0.005623,-0.006516,0.001748,0.003909,0.002816,0.00448,0.0033 85,-5e-06,0.013892,-0.000656

I'm very NW European shifted so I generally get a Insular Celtic and Scandinavian combination.

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.01914511 Icelandic
0.01963605 Scottish
0.01980285 Orcadian
0.02018252 Danish
0.02022706 Norwegian
0.02206251 English
0.02219753 Welsh
0.02416041 Dutch
0.02454002 English_Cornwall
0.02493637 Shetlandic
0.02758163 French_Brittany


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.7604% / 0.01760415
55.4 Icelandic
20.4 Welsh
13.4 Orcadian
8.4 Scottish
2.4 Norwegian

ADC 0.25 is the same as above.


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.7606% / 0.01760567 | ADC: 0.5x RC
57.0 Icelandic
20.4 Welsh
13.4 Orcadian
9.2 Scottish


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.7694% / 0.01769376 | ADC: 1x RC
52.8 Icelandic
33.0 Scottish
14.2 Orcadian

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.7712% / 0.01771229 | ADC: 2x RC
53.8 Icelandic
46.2 Scottish

Upsilander
08-14-2024, 11:16 AM
Target: Upsilander23andme
Distance: 2.0627% / 0.02062715
31.8 Germanic_europe
26.6 British_Islanders
22.0 Baltic
19.6 Basque_&_SW_France

Albannach
08-14-2024, 11:37 AM
Irish and Scottish have been removed as that is my actual ancestry.

Target: Albannach_scaled
Distance: 1.9429% / 0.01942941
51.4 English_Cornwall
38.0 Icelandic
10.6 Norwegian

JerryS.
08-14-2024, 05:07 PM
Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.7006% / 0.01700632
51.8 Danish
39.6 French_Brittany
8.6 Greek_Crete

Tacitus
08-25-2024, 01:31 PM
Target: Tacitus_G25sim
Distance: 2.4633% / 0.02463318
74.8 Maltese
23.4 French_Corsica
1.8 Swiss_Italian


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyzv8lgAg30