Cleopatra was a black according to "Root" website

[ReichGirl]

They can take no pride in their own accomplishments, so they claim a heritage that isn't their own.

http://www.theroot.com/blogs/dig/cle...sta-and-killer

[Beorn]

(Apologies, but I couldn't see a relevant article.)

What amazes me about the debate over what Cleopatra looked like and what "race" she was, is the denial of actual busts of her and the tiny fact that the lineage of the Ptolemies was a purely incestuous affair.

Afrocentrists are really scraping the barrel with this one.

[Black Turlogh]

(Apologies, but I couldn't see a relevant article.)

What amazes me about the debate over what Cleopatra looked like and what "race" she was, is the denial of actual busts of her and the tiny fact that the lineage of the Ptolemies was a purely incestuous affair.

Afrocentrists are really scraping the barrel with this one.

Well, it is no surprise that such things go ignored when one considers that Afrocentrist assertions uniformly run under the assumption that there exists a grand conspiracy constructed by Europeans to cover up all black accomplishments and persons of any historical value. Dismissing the worth of ancient busts can be explained away by Afrocentrists simply by reverting back to this absurd theory.

[Æmeric]

Well Cleopatra was born in Africa so she must have been a Negress - acording to n*gg*r logic. And Barack Obama is Hawaiian according to the same logic.(Assuming BHO was really born in Hawaii.)

[Loyalist]

"The New Black Panther Party" features photographs of Egyptian pharaohs on its website, so this comes as no surprise. Negroes have no legacy of great civilizations, something which sets them apart from effectively every other race, so they claim the accomplishments of others using questionable historical evidence and pseudoscience.

[Birka]

Negroes have no legacy of great civilizations, something which sets them apart from effectively every other race, so they claim the accomplishments of others using questionable historical evidence and pseudoscience.

Weren't they effectually living in a stone age era around the time of the European colonizations? About the same for the American Indian tribes I would say.

[Loyalist]

Weren't they effectually living in a stone age era around the time of the European colonizations? About the same for the American Indian tribes I would say.

For the most part, the difference being some Negroes still maintain a Stone Age lifestyle, complete with spears and loincloths. To their credit, certain Amerindians did, at times, possess sophisticated empires, particularly the Aztecs and Mayans. Even North American Indians, the Iroquois for example, carved out systems of government and society which were unparalleled in sub-Saharan Africa.

[Birka]

For the most part, the difference being some Negroes still maintain a Stone Age lifestyle, complete with spears and loincloths. To their credit, certain Amerindians did, at times, possess sophisticated empires, particularly the Aztecs and Mayans. Even North American Indians, the Iroquois for example, carved out systems of government and society which were unparalleled in sub-Saharan Africa.

Thank you, I stand corrected on some Amerindians, but I have the feeling that the Aztecs and Mayans (and possibly Egyptians) were influenced by some sort of "visitors". Some of their architecture cannot be duplicated with today's building techniques. Something about that remains "other-worldly" to me.

If Europeans had not set foot in Africa, I wonder how long it would have taken for the Iron age to develop.

[Maelstrom]

"The New Black Panther Party" features photographs of Egyptian pharaohs on its website, so this comes as no surprise. Negroes have no legacy of great civilizations, something which sets them apart from effectively every other race, so they claim the accomplishments of others using questionable historical evidence and pseudoscience.

What about this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_Empire)?

:confused:

[Loyalist]

What about this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_Empire)?

:confused:

What about it? There's nothing notable in there, and the timeline is comparatively late.

[Æmeric]

I remember being taught about those great Africans empires in social studies class in the 6th grade. But in retrospect I think there must have been a great deal of Arab &/or Berber influence. Their economies revolved around the export of gold & slaves. They never developed anything & Timbuktu is on the southern periphery of North African civilization.

[Barreldriver]

Thank you, I stand corrected on some Amerindians, but I have the feeling that the Aztecs and Mayans (and possibly Egyptians) were influenced by some sort of "visitors". Some of their architecture cannot be duplicated with today's building techniques. Something about that remains "other-worldly" to me.

If Europeans had not set foot in Africa, I wonder how long it would have taken for the Iron age to develop.

There's a theory out that a lot of Amerindians might not have been asiatic in origin, but rather UP Europid and later mixed with later arriving asiatic tribes soon after, and there's accounts of Spanish explorers encoutering N.American natives and describing them as looking like men from the S.W. of Europe but having reddish skin from wearing nothing but loincloths and something about using protective paint to cover sun-burns and prevent further burning, that would make the term red-skin very literal if it's a case of uber-sun burn, and it's reasonable for those who were the S.E. Amerindians temperatures and sun intensity is horrid down south, and everytime I went down there or lived down there I had to be extremely cautious and use uber grade sun block or I would turn lobster. There's some DNA evidence suggesting that Europeans colonized before and along side asiatic peoples in the UP America's. So maybe this is the reason why certain Amerindian tribes progressed where others did not, those with more Euro blood succeeded where those with more asiatic blood did not.


Here's a link to a few thread heres that feature hints at pre-asiatic European influence in the America's:


(This one is my favorite): http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2003

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=185&highlight=native+americans


http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1312


http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3001