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The Lawspeaker
11-21-2019, 09:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec4o5Zp_R8k

Is the American Dream Dead? Are we being forced into minimalism just to get by?

Sarmatian
11-22-2019, 07:47 AM
The minimalism is inevitable future for 90% of world's population. We consume too much stuff we don't actually need. It will be hardest for developed countries, their consumption is too high they have biggest fall ahead of them.

The Lawspeaker
11-22-2019, 06:22 PM
There is nothing wrong with a certain minimalism - but there is a lot wrong with enforced poverty while the rich take everything.

Kamal900
11-22-2019, 06:25 PM
There is nothing wrong with a certain minimalism - but there is a lot wrong with enforced poverty while the rich take everything.

It's like going back to an era in France before the revolution where 97% of the population were poor while the rest were the rich and powerful..yes, the middle class of the world are disappearing.

The Lawspeaker
11-22-2019, 06:27 PM
It's like going back to an era in France before the revolution where 97% of the population were poor while the rest were the rich and powerful..yes, the middle class of the world are disappearing.

Indeed. And the outcome will be the same:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmKBoU9yPu8

Revolution. Only this time around, the troops may not be so willing to defend their leaders.

JamesBond007
11-22-2019, 06:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6RXRKlGsV8

https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1528750369i/37506348._UY630_SR1200,630_.jpg


The New York Times bestselling, groundbreaking investigation of how the global elite's efforts to "change the world" preserve the status quo and obscure their role in causing the problems they later seek to solve. An essential read for understanding some of the egregious abuses of power that dominate today’s news.

Former New York Times columnist Anand Giridharadas takes us into the inner sanctums of a new gilded age, where the rich and powerful fight for equality and justice any way they can--except ways that threaten the social order and their position atop it. We see how they rebrand themselves as saviors of the poor; how they lavishly reward "thought leaders" who redefine "change" in winner-friendly ways; and how they constantly seek to do more good, but never less harm. We hear the limousine confessions of a celebrated foundation boss; witness an American president hem and haw about his plutocratic benefactors; and attend a cruise-ship conference where entrepreneurs celebrate their own self-interested magnanimity.

Giridharadas asks hard questions: Why, for example, should our gravest problems be solved by the unelected upper crust instead of the public institutions it erodes by lobbying and dodging taxes? He also points toward an answer: Rather than rely on scraps from the winners, we must take on the grueling democratic work of building more robust, egalitarian institutions and truly changing the world. A call to action for elites and everyday citizens alike.

https://www.amazon.com/Winners-Take-All-Charade-Changing/dp/0451493249

Kamal900
11-22-2019, 06:35 PM
Indeed. And the outcome will be the same:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWBzb3GuR_I

Revolution. Only this time around, the troops may not be so willing to defend their leaders.

In Europe, yes, but not in America since the US army and the police are willing to kill many innocent Americans since Obama made sure that a coup in America would be impossible. I call these guys as "green niggers", and really, they're nothing more than ZOG enforces of the country and elsewhere in the world. You Europeans need to free yourselves from the clutches of America which is the international central command of Zionist Jewry while Israel is the hive mind of it.
http://pcc-online.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/maxresdefault-855x425@2x.jpg

Kamal900
11-22-2019, 06:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6RXRKlGsV8

https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1528750369i/37506348._UY630_SR1200,630_.jpg


The New York Times bestselling, groundbreaking investigation of how the global elite's efforts to "change the world" preserve the status quo and obscure their role in causing the problems they later seek to solve. An essential read for understanding some of the egregious abuses of power that dominate today’s news.

Former New York Times columnist Anand Giridharadas takes us into the inner sanctums of a new gilded age, where the rich and powerful fight for equality and justice any way they can--except ways that threaten the social order and their position atop it. We see how they rebrand themselves as saviors of the poor; how they lavishly reward "thought leaders" who redefine "change" in winner-friendly ways; and how they constantly seek to do more good, but never less harm. We hear the limousine confessions of a celebrated foundation boss; witness an American president hem and haw about his plutocratic benefactors; and attend a cruise-ship conference where entrepreneurs celebrate their own self-interested magnanimity.

Giridharadas asks hard questions: Why, for example, should our gravest problems be solved by the unelected upper crust instead of the public institutions it erodes by lobbying and dodging taxes? He also points toward an answer: Rather than rely on scraps from the winners, we must take on the grueling democratic work of building more robust, egalitarian institutions and truly changing the world. A call to action for elites and everyday citizens alike.

https://www.amazon.com/Winners-Take-All-Charade-Changing/dp/0451493249

Ralph Nader is an American independent politician of Lebanese Christian heritage, and he never hesitated to say about the Zionist corruption of America.

KMack
11-22-2019, 06:39 PM
Affordability is largely about income and cost of living, both vary significantly. I had a larger suburban house and collected a lot stuff I did not need. Got rid of most of it and moved back into the city.

Daco Celtic
11-22-2019, 06:44 PM
I think consumerism and "keeping up with the Joneses" is part of the issue. People will go into to great debt financing some McMansion when they should be in a more modest house, condo, or apartment that they can afford. A lot of it is ego.

JamesBond007
11-22-2019, 06:46 PM
I think consumerism and "keeping up with the Joneses" is part of the issue. People will go into to great debt financing some McMansion when they should be in a more modest house, condo, or apartment that they can afford. A lot of it is ego.

The natural state of affairs is that men are producers and women and children consumers but consumer culture tries to feminize men ('toxic masculinity' rhetoric etc...) and turn everyone into consumers.

The Lawspeaker
11-22-2019, 06:46 PM
In Europe, yes, but not in America since the US army and the police are willing to kill many innocent Americans since Obama made sure that a coup in America would be impossible. I call these guys as "green niggers", and really, they're nothing more than ZOG enforces of the country and elsewhere in the world. You Europeans need to free yourselves from the clutches of America which is the international central command of Zionist Jewry while Israel is the hive mind of it.
http://pcc-online.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/maxresdefault-855x425@2x.jpg

Even in America. Thankfully, they wouldn't even be legally able to deploy their army against citizens and the national guard probably wouldn't follow orders either but change sides.

KMack
11-22-2019, 06:54 PM
I think consumerism and "keeping up with the Joneses" is part of the issue. People will go into to great debt financing some McMansion when they should be in a more modest house, condo, or apartment that they can afford. A lot of it is ego.

Sometimes a McMansion is not more costly than a smaller house/condo in hip area. Other items used auto vs. new, do I really need a 35K boat for X amount of weekends at the lake, buying bulk groceries and cooking at home vs restaurant. There are women who go crazy spending money on clothes and accessories as well.

Kamal900
11-22-2019, 06:54 PM
Even in America. Thankfully, they wouldn't even be legally able to deploy their army against citizens and the national guard probably wouldn't follow orders either but change sides.

I sure hope that's the case not only for them but for the rest of humanity.

Daco Celtic
11-22-2019, 06:59 PM
The natural state of affairs is that men are producers and women and children consumers but consumer culture tries to feminize men ('toxic masculinity' rhetoric etc...) and turn everyone into consumers.

Edward Bernays deserves a lot of thanks.

https://youtu.be/eJ3RzGoQC4s

Daos777
11-22-2019, 07:06 PM
There’s a golden number when it comes to the total amount of global population sustainable by earth while factoring in all resources and good land. We are probably past that number by a few billion.
Humanity needs to figure out this golden number and stick to it.