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MagnusDark
11-21-2019, 04:25 PM
This is the spiritual successor to Balkans K4 (https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?15734-Balkans-K4-Global25-Calculator&highlight=balkan).

Recommended for people with ancestry from Southeast Europe.
Run it with pen=0 in R or in Vahaduo (https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/).

The main components are:

Greek world: Mycaeneans, supposedly Classical Greeks from Empuries and one lost soul in Levant
Thracian world: Bulgarian Thracian, "Scythian" Thracians from Southern Moldova and Southwestern Ukraine/border with Romania and Moldova, two Medieval outliers that look similar to Thracians
Illyrian world: The Iron Age sample from Croatia and two Bronze Age ones, who are actually identical with the former sample.
Slavic migrations: "Avar" Slavs from Hungary and the Medieval Czech sample, where it is assumed that they are somewhat similar to the profile of a typical migrant in the Middle Ages.
Eastern Roman Empire movements: That's the "Med" component that should explain the extra Near Eastern-like ancestry in some pops. Since the Roman Empire was cosmopolitan and we've all seen how much Rome was affected genetically by Near Eastern movements, it is only natural that the other capital of the empire and its surrounding region will be impacted at least to the same extent. Realistically, the impact was probably way higher than in Rome, considering the proximity of Constantinople to Near East.
Mongol invasions: A proxy for the Midle Ages' baddies


Here's the breakdown of these components, when tested with a basic model:

Greek world
https://i.imgur.com/r9OUjS1.png

Thracian world
https://i.imgur.com/m2yelWW.png

Illyrian world
https://i.imgur.com/11S1pwu.png

Slavic migrations
https://i.imgur.com/Zqr1E8i.png

Eastern Roman Empire movements
https://i.imgur.com/7nMupGD.png

Southeast Europeans tested with basic components
https://i.imgur.com/Cl396J5.png

Calculator results
https://i.imgur.com/sDpfxWq.png



Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_HUN:DA198,0.124067, 0.159438,0.025267,-0.028424,0.030467,-0.006693,-0.000235,-0.000692,0.014317,0.031345,0.000812,0.009142,-0.007136,0.00578,-0.011401,-0.017237,-0.001695,0.009882,0.001383,-0.009379,-0.012603,0.009645,-0.006286,0.006989,-0.009819
Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy192,0.129758 ,0.138112,0.008297,-0.020672,0.012002,-0.012829,0.008225,-0.007846,0.005318,0.039181,0.007795,0.007943,-0.013677,0.003441,-0.007329,-0.000133,0.009648,-0.003294,0.005782,0.019009,-0.025954,0.006677,-0.015529,-0.009881,0.006586
Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy197,0.133173 ,0.140143,0.007165,-0.020026,0.02185,-0.00753,0.019271,0.010615,-0.015953,0.018406,-0.000325,0.01169,-0.018434,0.002064,-0.009229,-0.018563,0.006128,-0.001647,-0.000503,-0.029139,0.003244,-0.000495,-0.005176,-0.012893,0.002994
Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy300,0.106994 ,0.153345,0.021496,-0.029716,0.018157,-0.018128,-0.011986,-0.009461,0.004295,0.024602,-0.017538,0.01124,0.000149,-0.01679,-0.031351,0.026916,-0.005476,0.024831,0.006159,-0.015007,-0.021213,0.038703,0.003328,0.003374,0.016645
Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy305,0.118376 ,0.126941,0.010936,-0.014212,0.017849,-0.006693,-0.001175,-0.001154,0.00225,0.022415,-0.003897,0.007343,-0.013974,0.008257,-0.010179,0.000663,-0.005476,0.004181,0.016341,-0.008254,-0.009234,0.005812,-0.007395,0.007471,0.002754
Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Thracian_BGR,0.126344,0.1574 07,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:UKR_Cimmerian:MJ12,0.12862,0 .140143,0.017348,-0.013566,0.019388,-0.013945,-0.00094,-0.004846,-0.005522,0.030251,0.001299,0.005695,-0.005798,-0.00523,-0.018865,0.007292,0.028033,-0.000253,0.011941,0.006253,-0.01697,0.011623,0.00456,0.010724,-0.001796
Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:DEU_MA_o:STR_300,0.125205,0. 165531,-0.001886,-0.05491,0.024004,-0.015339,0.009165,0.010384,0.003681,0.029887,0.003 41,-0.000599,-0.009663,-0.006331,-0.029044,-0.005304,0.002868,-0.004814,-0.002765,-0.016758,-0.007237,0.009645,0.008381,0.00253,-0.004191
Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19,0.1206 52,0.167562,0.012822,-0.045866,0.035391,-0.022869,-0.00047,-0.000923,0.001023,0.045559,0.007145,0.01079,-0.013528,0.007844,-0.014115,-0.018297,-0.003129,0.003421,0.008547,-0.016258,-0.010232,0.003462,0.005793,0.007832,0.001317
Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_IA,0.132035,0.151314,0.0 33941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4331,0.12862,0.1513 14,0.028284,-0.007429,0.038776,-0.006972,-0.00705,-0.006,0.003681,0.028064,0.006171,0.010341,-0.017542,-0.003578,-0.0076,0.006497,0.008084,-0.003041,0.006159,-0.011631,-0.005865,-0.001113,-0.00037,0.003856,-0.001197
Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4332,0.120652,0.147 252,0.034318,-0.012274,0.038469,0.002231,-0.00423,0.001154,0.009613,0.032074,-0.006008,0.01094,-0.012487,-0.014726,-0.005972,0.01074,0.02047,-0.00114,0.000754,-0.011005,-0.001248,0.008656,-0.00419,0.002048,-0.002395
Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9006,0.119514,0.16045 4,-0.006788,-0.068476,0.014464,-0.03514,-0.003055,-0.006923,-0.002863,0.050115,0.004384,0.015137,-0.009366,0.00289,-0.019815,-0.005304,0.024643,0.007601,0.020992,-0.000375,-0.007487,-0.012365,-0.010969,-0.000602,-0.001796
Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9010,0.110408,0.16045 4,-0.015462,-0.071383,0.029544,-0.038487,-0.003525,0.004154,0.013499,0.056129,0.018025,0.017 235,-0.00223,-0.00234,-0.023208,-0.005038,0.031553,0.003421,0.005908,-0.004002,-0.006613,0.003215,-0.016145,-0.007109,-0.003113
Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9033,0.091058,0.15029 8,-0.004148,-0.050388,0.022773,-0.013387,0.007285,-0.006692,0.003068,0.041003,-0.003573,0.019333,-0.020218,0.005505,-0.006515,-0.026518,0.00678,-0.003167,0.012193,-0.008629,-0.002995,-0.006306,-0.000616,0.005904,0.006945
Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9041,0.110408,0.15436 ,-0.006034,-0.068476,0.020004,-0.021475,-0.00282,0.000923,0.007976,0.042097,0.003248,0.0160 36,-0.019326,-0.008533,-0.016015,-0.002387,0.021122,0.006588,0.010182,-0.002876,-0.006364,0.016199,0.001356,0.006386,-0.00491
Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I820 8,0.1161,0.158423,-0.017348,-0.06783,0.026774,-0.032351,-0.00282,-0.001154,0.007158,0.04319,0.003573,0.015586,-0.017096,0.006468,-0.016965,-0.02559,-0.007693,-0.000253,0.00993,-0.017133,-0.003494,0.000866,0.005053,0.00241,-0.010538
Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I821 5,0.120652,0.158423,-0.000754,-0.066215,0.023697,-0.023427,0.00611,-0.009,0.002659,0.041914,0.002111,0.006894,-0.01665,0.000688,-0.020087,-0.005967,0.014864,0.001014,-0.000754,-0.008254,-0.013102,0.002226,-0.001725,0.011809,-0.006466
Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH068, 0.108132,0.156392,-0.003771,-0.065569,0.024312,-0.02761,0.00893,-0.008538,0.001841,0.054306,-0.002598,0.015586,-0.023042,0.003441,-0.022801,0.012198,0.031553,0.004307,0.008547,-0.009755,-0.006364,0.016446,0.011462,-0.005302,0.005389
Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-12,0.087644,0.149283,-0.053928,-0.092378,-0.00954,-0.028447,-0.011516,-0.006923,0.011862,0.016219,0.006333,-0.010641,0.017245,-0.002615,-0.005429,-0.005701,0.004303,0.00152,-0.003142,0.01013,-0.003494,0.006677,-0.002342,0.007591,-0.011975
Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-2,0.083091,0.142174,-0.050911,-0.088502,-0.003077,-0.029284,-0.00658,-0.002308,0.009204,0.007654,-0.002273,-0.012889,0.006838,-0.009634,-0.010315,0.013392,-0.000652,0.000633,-0.000628,-0.000125,-0.000499,0.002226,-0.004067,-0.003615,-0.006227
Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-4,0.091058,0.146236,-0.056945,-0.081396,-0.014464,-0.029005,-0.00752,-0.006923,0.007976,0.020957,0.003573,-0.01124,0.013974,-0.002752,-0.015879,0.02254,0.012908,-0.002787,0.006159,0.002126,0.004367,0.008532,-0.000739,0.005422,-0.00467
Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-7,0.087644,0.146236,-0.068636,-0.08721,-0.017234,-0.024542,-0.00564,-0.013615,0.002045,0.008201,0.003248,-0.004046,0.013379,0.004404,-0.006786,0.01074,-0.009779,-0.004054,0.008045,0.001126,-0.001373,0.000495,-0.007148,-0.012773,0.003712
Slavic_Migration:CZE_EarlySlav,0.12862,0.129988,0. 068259,0.046835,0.02739,0.013108,0.007285,0.014076 ,-0.001841,-0.018224,-0.000812,-0.004496,0.003717,0.007294,-0.011129,-0.003182,0.011474,-0.002027,-0.002388,-0.004752,0.005615,0.000742,0.001725,-0.001084,-0.006706
Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1,0.133173,0.13 2019,0.065996,0.049419,0.039392,0.024542,0.00893,0 .008769,0.003886,-0.013668,-0.00065,-0.007343,0.008325,0.014863,-0.012486,0.005304,-0.005346,0.00228,0.002388,0.002126,-0.001497,-0.002844,0.007888,-0.006748,0.000838
Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2,0.134311,0.12 6941,0.081458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0 .005769,0.004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
Mongols_et_al.,0.0215316,-0.4503027,-0.0074797,-0.065246,0.0764247,0.0360932,0.0031333,-0.0045575,-0.0152541,-0.0028095,-0.0510712,-0.0069312,0.0079284,-0.007833,-0.0042411,0.0015247,0.0017167,-0.0003695,-0.0020322,-0.0103902,0.0126859,0.007079,0.0136394,-0.0015664,-0.0019957
MagnusDark
11-21-2019, 04:26 PM
My Results:

Tighter distance this time.

Target: Dibran
Distance: 1.8780% / 0.01878003
38.8 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
32.6 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
22.2 Slavic_Migration
6.4 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World

Non-Aggregated

21.0 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:UKR_Cimmerian:MJ12
20.0 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH068
16.0 Slavic_Migration:CZE_EarlySlav
10.8 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9006
7.4 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:DEU_MA_o:STR_300
6.8 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I821 5
6.4 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4332
6.2 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
3.4 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy197
1.2 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9010
0.8 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Thracian_BGR


Distance to: Dibran
0.03462801 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:UKR_Cimmerian:MJ12
0.04111448 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4331
0.04433221 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4332
0.04576255 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Thracian_BGR
0.05228657 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_HUN:DA198
0.05280019 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_IA
0.05386127 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.05688653 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy197
0.05718235 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy192
0.05736240 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:DEU_MA_o:STR_300
0.06073592 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I821 5
0.06167637 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19
0.06788481 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9041
0.07062889 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH068
0.07400296 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9033
0.07482676 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9006
0.08174661 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy300
0.08547160 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9010
0.08686383 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I820 8
0.10727784 Slavic_Migration:CZE_EarlySlav
0.11432401 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
0.12316814 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-4
0.12417281 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-2
0.13063735 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-12
0.13728280 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
Omanvassal
11-21-2019, 04:28 PM
That Czech Early Slav, has most similarity with modern East Balkans

Kermit frog sips tea meme..
Ford
11-21-2019, 04:31 PM
Target: Ford
Distance: 1.4047% / 0.01404738
69.4 Slavic_Migration
20.0 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
10.6 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World

Non-Aggregated
50.2 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
20.0 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:UKR_Cimmerian:MJ12
16.4 Slavic_Migration:CZE_EarlySlav
10.6 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9006
2.8 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2

Distance to: Ford
0.04356102 Slavic_Migration:CZE_EarlySlav
0.04508853 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
0.06862024 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4331
0.06890893 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.07269738 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4332
0.07504211 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_IA
0.07544693 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:UKR_Cimmerian:MJ12
0.07660820 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.08611053 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_HUN:DA198
0.09082952 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy197
0.09232250 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy192
0.10755648 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Thracian_BGR
0.11254084 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy300
0.11260902 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19
0.11456080 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:DEU_MA_o:STR_300
0.12550682 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9033
0.12612845 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I821 5
0.13310255 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9041
0.13818042 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9006
0.13870805 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH068
0.14277969 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I820 8
0.14932531 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9010
0.17105987 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-2
0.17216081 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-4
0.17752129 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-12
Kaspias
11-21-2019, 04:43 PM
Target: Deniz
Distance: 2.5848% / 0.02584755
42.4 Slavic_Migration
31.4 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
21.4 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
4.8 Mongols_et_al.


Target: Kaspias
Distance: 3.2404% / 0.03240394
35.4 Slavic_Migration
33.0 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
22.2 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
9.4 Mongols_et_al.
Kaspias
11-21-2019, 07:20 PM
Target: DenizGF
Distance: 2.0003% / 0.02000341
44.6 Slavic_Migration
25.6 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
13.8 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
11.6 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
4.4 Mongols_et_al.

Target: Thracian
Distance: 1.9028% / 0.01902791
38.6 Slavic_Migration
31.6 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
26.0 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
3.8 Mongols_et_al.
Thracian
11-21-2019, 07:28 PM
Target: DenizGF
Distance: 2.0003% / 0.02000341
44.6 Slavic_Migration
25.6 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
13.8 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
11.6 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
4.4 Mongols_et_al.

Target: Thracian
Distance: 1.9028% / 0.01902791
38.6 Slavic_Migration
31.6 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
26.0 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
3.8 Mongols_et_al.

I ran for pen=0.001 for us except DenizGF (I don't have coordinates)


[1] "distance%=2.7349"

Thracian_scaled

Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World,61.8
Slavic_Migration,21.6
Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements,14.2
Mongols_et_al.,2.4


[1] "distance%=3.91"

Kaspias_scaled

Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World,55.2
Slavic_Migration,21.8
Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements,18
Mongols_et_al.,5



[1] "distance%=3.0029"

Deniz

Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World,57.6
Slavic_Migration,32
Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements,6.4
Mongols_et_al.,2.4
Pre-Slavic_Greek_World,1.6
andre
11-21-2019, 07:40 PM
Target: Andrei_scaled
Distance: 2.2334% / 0.02233389
50.8 Slavic_Migration
32.2 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
10.8 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
5.2 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
1.0 Mongols_et_al.
Nice! Avar_szolad_Av1 has some balkanic admix (like 5-10%). Only Av2 is “pure” Slavic. Correct me if i wrong.
Dušan
07-08-2022, 05:08 PM
Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.1196% / 0.01119598
70.2 Slavic_Migration
22.0 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
6.8 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
1.0 Mongols_et_al.
oszkar07
07-08-2022, 08:27 PM
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.8713% / 0.02871322
67.0 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
26.6 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_IA
6.4 Slavic_Migration:CZE_EarlySlav
alexmegas777
07-08-2022, 09:11 PM
Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 1.9973% / 0.01997298
44.0 Slavic_Migration
24.6 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
13.8 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
12.2 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World
5.2 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
0.2 Mongols_et_al.
Jana
07-08-2022, 09:49 PM
Target: Feiichy_scaled
Distance: 2.4858% / 0.02485796

67.2 Slavic_Migration
12.2 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
12.0 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World
8.2 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
0.4 Mongols_et_al.
alnortedelsur
07-08-2022, 10:08 PM
Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 6.4336% / 0.06433586
47.0 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
30.8 Slavic_Migration
12.2 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
5.6 Mongols_et_al.
4.4 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World

Non Aggregated

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 6.4336% / 0.06433586
47.0 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9033
21.4 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
12.2 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy300
9.4 Slavic_Migration:CZE_EarlySlav
5.6 Mongols_et_al.
4.0 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4332
0.4 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4331



Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.07872509 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.08698064 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4332
0.08722165 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4331
0.08881319 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_IA
0.09371490 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_HUN:DA198
0.09636498 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9033
0.09879312 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy192
0.10076540 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:UKR_Cimmerian:MJ12
0.10749844 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy197
0.10815205 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy300
0.10944095 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19
0.11033397 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Thracian_BGR
0.11774675 Slavic_Migration:CZE_EarlySlav
0.11959434 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9041
0.11962881 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I821 5
0.12165433 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
0.12182157 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:DEU_MA_o:STR_300
0.12416190 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I820 8
0.12873443 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH068
0.13065071 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9006
0.13804027 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9010
0.14109174 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.14180464 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-2
0.14933224 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-12
0.15116457 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-4
0.15514788 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-7
0.57987907 Mongols_et_al.
Coastal Elite
07-08-2022, 10:33 PM
Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 2.8067% / 0.02806722
50.4 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
48.6 SlavicMigration
1.0 Mongolsetal.

Non Aggregated

Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 2.8067% / 0.02806722
48.6 SlavicMigration
39.8 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Balkans_BAI4331
4.8 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_HungaryDA198
4.0 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Balkans_BAI4332
1.8 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_Moldovascy192
1.0 Mongolsetal.
paradox
07-09-2022, 06:14 AM
Target: scaled
Distance: 1.1807% / 0.01180676
35.8 Slavic_Migration
31.8 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
26.8 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
5.6 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World

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Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 1.7417% / 0.01741744
47.8 Slavic_Migration
42.2 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
10.0 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
hazmatnik
07-09-2022, 06:20 AM
Maternal, paternal aunt and i:

Target: aunt1_scaled
Distance: 1.4079% / 0.01407942
62.2 Slavic_Migration
24.4 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
12.6 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
0.8 Mongols_et_al.

Target: aunt2_scaled
Distance: 1.7676% / 0.01767649
51.6 Slavic_Migration
38.4 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
8.8 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
1.2 Mongols_et_al.

Target: hazmatnik_scaled
Distance: 2.2317% / 0.02231658
64.8 Slavic_Migration
31.6 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
3.6 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
vasiliki23
07-10-2022, 01:29 AM
Target: VASILIKI_scaled
Distance: 1.8690% / 0.01869026
46.0 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
27.8 Slavic_Migration
18.2 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
4.0 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
4.0 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World

Distance to: VASILIKI_scaled
0.03719516 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_IA
0.03750411 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_HUN:DA198
0.03789952 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.03936774 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4331
0.05414924 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:UKR_Cimmerian:MJ12
0.05534788 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy192
0.05552104 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4332
0.05595873 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy197
0.05672422 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19
0.05784361 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Thracian_BGR
0.06733277 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:DEU_MA_o:STR_300
0.07275017 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9033
0.07471979 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I821 5
0.08114225 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9041
0.08309019 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I820 8
0.08432827 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy300
0.09002272 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9006
0.09078460 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH068
0.09915130 Slavic_Migration:CZE_EarlySlav
0.10041148 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
0.10150732 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9010
0.12553636 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.12734212 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-2
0.13078444 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-4
0.13174910 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-12
Oturan Boğa
07-10-2022, 08:28 AM
Target: OturanBoga_scaled
Distance: 4.5583% / 0.04558286
47.6 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
33.4 Slavic_Migration
12.8 Mongols_et_al.
6.2 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
gixajo
07-10-2022, 12:01 PM
For fun.

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 4.2111% / 0.04211120
58.2 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World
22.6 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
19.2 Slavic_Migration

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 3.8716% / 0.03871564
59.4 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World
30.6 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
6.6 Slavic_Migration
3.4 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 4.8647% / 0.04864687
74.8 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World
24.0 Slavic_Migration
1.2 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
Dušan
06-10-2023, 12:51 PM
Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 1.9049% / 0.01904938
63.0 Slavic_Migration
26.2 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
10.4 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
0.4 Mongols_et_al.
MandM
06-18-2023, 12:06 PM
Target: wify_scaled
Distance: 2.5523% / 0.02552257
49.4 Slavic_Migration
25.8 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
10.8 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World
9.8 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
4.2 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements


Target: Milenko
Distance: 1.7118% / 0.01711801
57.0 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
36.2 Slavic_Migration
6.4 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
0.4 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
Beowulf
06-18-2023, 12:09 PM
Grandmother:

Target: Abuela
Distance: 3.3983% / 0.03398298
43.2 Slavic_Migration
35.4 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World
15.8 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
3.8 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
1.8 Mongols_et_al.


with some iberian samples:

Target: Abuela
Distance: 1.8958% / 0.01895816
60.8 Iberian
25.6 Slavic_Migration
11.8 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
1.8 Mongols_et_al.
Voskos
06-18-2023, 12:13 PM
Target:
Distance: 2.9972% / 0.02997209
58.0 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
30.0 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
12.0 SlavicMigration
Nurzat
06-22-2023, 08:18 PM
Target: Nurzat
Distance: 1.5889% / 0.01588891
66.8 Slavic_Migration
28.6 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
3.8 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
0.8 Mongols_et_al.
Far_away
09-08-2023, 10:07 PM
Distance: 2.0415% / 0.02041513
52.2 Slavic_Migration
25.2 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
15.2 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
6.0 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World
1.4 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
celticdragongod
09-09-2023, 12:36 AM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.05828796 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
0.06129478 Slavic_Migration:CZE_EarlySlav
0.07495711 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.09272068 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4331
0.09370006 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_IA
0.09573613 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4332
0.10393566 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.11260176 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_HUN:DA198
0.11276428 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:UKR_Cimmerian:MJ12
0.11916878 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy197
0.12324609 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy192
0.13925242 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy300
0.13962023 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19
0.14036009 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Thracian_BGR
0.14879317 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:DEU_MA_o:STR_300
0.15012222 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9033
0.15932662 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I821 5
0.16305091 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9041
0.17045780 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I820 8
0.17280049 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH068
0.17469814 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9006
0.18593136 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World:MycenaeanI9010
0.20418217 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-2
0.20818017 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-4
0.21036608 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-12

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 5.1448% / 0.05144837
75.2 Slavic_Migration
24.8 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 5.1448% / 0.05144837
63.8 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
24.4 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_IA
11.4 Slavic_Migration:CZE_EarlySlav
0.4 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4332
Eurafricanid
09-09-2023, 12:54 AM
Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 2.9842% / 0.02984246
71.3 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World
12.9 Slavic_Migration
8.9 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
6.9 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements


Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 2.9842% / 0.02984246
54.9 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4332
16.4 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_IA
12.9 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
8.3 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_HUN:DA198
5.8 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-2
1.1 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-7
0.6 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy192


+Medieval Iberian
Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 1.7573% / 0.01757321
75.6 Spain_Medieval
14.6 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
5.3 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World
2.5 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
2.0 Slavic_Migration


Target: Eurafricanid-EU
Distance: 1.7573% / 0.01757321
38.9 Spain_Medieval:I10895
18.2 Spain_Medieval:I10852
16.8 Spain_Medieval:I10892
9.9 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy300
5.0 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4331
4.7 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy197
2.5 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements:Levant_LBN_Roman:QED-7
2.0 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
1.7 Spain_Medieval:I10897
0.3 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4332
cass
09-09-2023, 02:19 PM
Target: cass
Distance: 1.8654% / 0.01865385
95.8 Slavic_Migration
4.0 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World
0.2 Mongols_et_al.
yngviktor
09-18-2023, 12:40 AM
Target: Viktor
Distance: 0.9980% / 0.00997976
67.2 Slavic_Migration
23.4 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
7.2 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
1.8 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
0.4 Mongols_et_al.
true_southron
09-18-2023, 12:47 AM
Target: true_southron_scaled
Distance: 0.6240% / 0.00623962
40.4 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
38.4 Slavic_Migration
12.2 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
8.6 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
0.4 Mongols_et_al.


Distance to: true_southron_scaled
0.03696627 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.03840375 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4331
0.04270822 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_IA
0.04411713 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_HUN:DA198
0.04437332 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:UKR_Cimmerian:MJ12




Target: wify_scaled
Distance: 2.5523% / 0.02552257
49.4 Slavic_Migration
25.8 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
10.8 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World
9.8 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
4.2 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements


Target: Milenko
Distance: 1.7118% / 0.01711801
57.0 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
36.2 Slavic_Migration
6.4 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
0.4 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements

Damn, you beat me with pre-Slavicness (so to say)
MandM
09-18-2023, 04:29 AM
Target: true_southron_scaled
Distance: 0.6240% / 0.00623962
40.4 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
38.4 Slavic_Migration
12.2 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
8.6 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
0.4 Mongols_et_al.


Distance to: true_southron_scaled
0.03696627 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.03840375 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4331
0.04270822 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_IA
0.04411713 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_HUN:DA198
0.04437332 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:UKR_Cimmerian:MJ12
Damn, you beat me with pre-Slavicness (so to say)

Thracian stronk hehe, well over all its just with 2.2, you on the other hand have dubble the Greek world and 7.2 more on eastern_roman empire.. dont realy know the dna and genetic makeup on Serbs from Macedonia, do you have similar as the north macedonians, or is it more North, East, South, West
true_southron
09-18-2023, 07:47 AM
Thracian stronk hehe, well over all its just with 2.2, you on the other hand have dubble the Greek world and 7.2 more on eastern_roman empire.. dont realy know the dna and genetic makeup on Serbs from Macedonia, do you have similar as the north macedonians, or is it more North, East, South, West

Me neither. I don't know other Macedonian Serbs that did test, although I assume they would be closer to the Serbian average (I think one of my great grandma was Vlach and perhaps even a couple of other earlier ancestors, which sets me more southern). But I get different admix on different calculators, and its mostly like 40% Slavic and the rest Paleo-Balkan, Greece, and Anatolian (basically Byzantine related).
MandM
09-18-2023, 08:41 AM
Me neither. I don't know other Macedonian Serbs that did test, although I assume they would be closer to the Serbian average (I think one of my great grandma was Vlach and perhaps even a couple of other earlier ancestors, which sets me more southern). But I get different admix on different calculators, and its mostly like 40% Slavic and the rest Paleo-Balkan, Greece, and Anatolian (basically Byzantine related).

Aha okey! Nice... well hopfully more Serbs from Macedonia will take dna test
noricum
09-18-2023, 10:02 AM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.2881% / 0.02288103
74.6 Slavic_Migration
16.8 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World
8.6 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World

non-aggregated
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.2881% / 0.02288103
65.0 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
16.8 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_IA
9.6 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
8.6 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_HUN:DA198
Zonx
09-18-2023, 11:36 AM
63.5 Slavic_Migration
19.9 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
10.2 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World
6.3 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
0.1 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements





0.04257423 Slavic_Migration:CZE_EarlySlav
0.04502373 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
0.06166495 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4331
0.06633436 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_IA
0.06686032 Pre-Slavic_Illyrian_World:HRV_MBA:I4332
0.06929842 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.07040911 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.07584309 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:UKR_Cimmerian:MJ12
0.08029207 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_HUN:DA198
0.08118428 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy197
0.08970901 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Scythian_MDA:scy192
0.10423243 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World:Thracian_BGR
Nausevar
09-18-2023, 03:30 PM
Distance: 1.9650% / 0.01964961
61.8 Slavic_Migration
17.8 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
16.0 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
4.0 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
0.4 Mongols_et_al.

I think this too much wog non-slav part makes my slavic part go up to compensate.
MandM
09-18-2023, 04:26 PM
Distance: 1.9650% / 0.01964961
61.8 Slavic_Migration
17.8 Pre-Slavic_Greek_World
16.0 Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World
4.0 Eastern_RomanEmpire_Movements
0.4 Mongols_et_al.

I think this too much wog non-slav part makes my slavic part go up to compensate.

Are you Croatian?
Katarzyna
09-18-2023, 04:50 PM
Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 2.0616% / 0.02061589
99.6 Slavic_Migration
0.4 Mongols_et_al.

Why such a bad distance to Slavic samples ?


Target: Katarzyna_AncestryDNA(real)
Distance: 2.0616% / 0.02061589
62.6 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
23.6 Slavic_Migration:CZE_EarlySlav
13.4 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
0.4 Mongols_et_al.

Comparison Polish average

Target: Polish
Distance: 1.3830% / 0.01383044
50.8 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av1
30.4 Slavic_Migration:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
18.6 Slavic_Migration:CZE_EarlySlav
0.2 Mongols_et_al.
Nausevar
09-20-2023, 09:55 AM
Are you Croatian?
Oh, I didn't get the notification (again).
I am from Croatia but all my ancestors were ethnic Serbs from that part of Croatia. I have montenegrin-like autosomal genetics.
MandM
09-20-2023, 10:02 AM
Oh, I didn't get the notification (again).
I am from Croatia but all my ancestors were ethnic Serbs from that part of Croatia. I have montenegrin-like autosomal genetics.

Aha Nice! I just Wonderd becouse of the high slavic you got on this calculator, how commen is it that Serbs from Croatia have similar to Montenegro Autosomal, dont they usally have about the same as Croats?