Post your 4,500 ya map

[TheOldNorth]

92950

Post your ancestors 4,500 years ago map
I especially want to see relatively pure people of modern ethnic groups so I can determine the average results of each nation

[JamesBond007]

Photobucket.com are being jerks they watermarked and blurred my map :

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v336/naudiz/Screenshot_20170515-162950_zpsgce1cwqi.png

I am pretty much probably either British isles Cornish or Scottish or a mix of the two probably but I am new world American:

Total Europe 98 (the 2% non-Europe is the miminal foreign admixture new world whites tend to have and even some Europeans like Southern Europeans should have it I guess).

80% Indo-European expansion (I imagine this is the 'Aryan' stuff the Nazis were obsessed about).

15% European farmer

2% Local European hunter gatherer

1% Anatolian copper age (what I like to call my vampire genes)

1% Asia (maybe from the huns of Germania)

etc..

[Coastal Elite]

I'm proud of my Anatolian Copper Age heritage

https://i.imgur.com/rRutIic.jpg

[TheOldNorth]

Photobucket.com are being jerks they watermarked and blurred my map :

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/v336/naudiz/Screenshot_20170515-162950_zpsgce1cwqi.png

I am pretty much probably either British isles Cornish or Scottish or a mix of the two probably but I am new world American:

Total Europe 98 (the 2% non-Europe is the miminal foreign admixture new world whites tend to have and even some Europeans like Southern Europeans should have it I guess).

80% Indo-European expansion (I imagine this is the 'Aryan' stuff the Nazis were obsessed about).

15% European farmer

2% Local European hunter gatherer

1% Anatolian copper age (what I like to call my vampire genes)

1% Asia (maybe from the huns of Germania)

etc..

The Nazis had it wrong though, the indo Europeans where light skinned but mostly dark in hair and eyes, they picked those traits up from the WHGs, so you’re very Indo-european

[Hulu]

Where do we get this?

[TheOldNorth]

Where do we get this?

https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K36expe3.htm

Your going to need your K36 results

[Adamm]

https://i.imgur.com/MyvJlUS.png

[Hapanuwa]

https://i.postimg.cc/8CsTvLH3/20191122-183525.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[WhatsGoingOnBigGuy]

https://imgur.com/a/1XznunQ

for some reason my boxes were cut off a bit but it's:

Total Europe: 96
IE Expansion: 83
EF: 11
Local Euro HG: 2
Anatolian Copper Age: 4

[TheOldNorth]

https://i.imgur.com/MyvJlUS.png

Very un-indo-european

[Adamm]

Very un-indo-european

Not weird results, I'm African after all.

[Coastal Elite]

I'm looking to sell off my HG and Indo-European/Steppe at a deep discount for more EFF admixture. Open to trades.

[TheOldNorth]

I'm looking to sell off my HG and Indo-European/Steppe at a deep discount for more EFF admixture. Open to trades.

Why would you want to be more EEF? You’ll just get shorter darker and less healthy because of a high carb diet

[Hulu]

https://i.imgur.com/ZarFUE2.jpg

[Coastal Elite]

Why would you want to be more EEF? You’ll just get shorter darker and less healthy because of a high carb diet

I think they get a bad wrap here on TA. People are ignorant of things like Vinca culture. They brought farming and culture to Europe. What is so great about HGs? They were the most backwards of all.

[Hulu]

I'm proud of my Anatolian Copper Age heritage

c.jpg

This is a similarity map, doesn't indicate direct ancestry.

[farke1]

https://i.imgur.com/nCXBbGb.png

[Rædwald]

https://i.postimg.cc/4dQ0120x/Capture.png

Show bobs :cool:

[Coastal Elite]

This is a similarity map, doesn't indicate direct ancestry.

Yes but I can feel the Anatolian Copper Age in my soul

[TheOldNorth]

I think they get a bad wrap here on TA. People are ignorant of things like Vinca culture. They brought farming and culture to Europe. What is so great about HGs? They were the most backwards of all.

they lived hard lives, where tough ass hell, likely didn't fight among themselves very much and liked thicc women (venus of willendorf), also the EHG mixed with the ANE and became the Indo-europeans so hell yeah!

[Coastal Elite]

they lived hard lives, where tough ass hell, likely didn't fight among themselves very much and liked thicc women (venus of willendorf), also the EHG mixed with the ANE and became the Indo-europeans so hell yeah!

but I do feel Vinca women had the biggest booty

https://i.imgur.com/61Js9FL.jpg

[Dorian]

Why would you want to be more EEF? You’ll just get shorter darker and less healthy because of a high carb diethttps://media0.giphy.com/media/zB73DK8sZyhLq/giphy.gif

[Dorian]

https://i.postimg.cc/5NnNNbfn/Screenshot-7.jpg

[TheOldNorth]

but I do feel Vinca women had the biggest booty

https://i.imgur.com/61Js9FL.jpg

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[TheOldNorth]

remember your username, the Dorians like their Achean ancestors where the most Steppe of the greeks, the Ionians where the more southern people genetically. The Dorians where described as tall, pale in skin, blonde of hair, and blue-grey of eyes by greek and roman authors

[Dorian]

Why would you want to be more EEF? You’ll just get shorter darker and less healthy because of a high carb diet

Btw , this comrade of yours has different opinion http://aryanism.net/culture/aesthetics/food/
And it makes sense...

[Dorian]

remember your username, the Dorians like their Achean ancestors where the most Steppe of the greeks, the Ionians where the more southern people genetically. The Dorians where described as tall, pale in skin, blonde of hair, and blue-grey of eyes by greek and roman authors

Wait for more&various samples then we can judge ,now it's meaningless....

[TheOldNorth]

Wait for more&various samples then we can judge ,now it's meaningless....

the authors of history shouldn't be ignored, they may have a times exaggerated events, but I assure you they weren't making up descriptions, and the events that they or the people they knew lived through

[TheOldNorth]

Btw , this comrade of yours has different opinion http://aryanism.net/culture/aesthetics/food/
And it makes sense...

comrade? I'm no nazi, but I do believe in the strength of the indo-european peoples as history has shown again and again that they can dominate, and are the well from which the springs of western culture flow. Also if you thought I meant EEF where more sensitive to high carb diet, thats not what I meant, I meant that the EEF became so short in height and lifespan because they so heavily relied on breads and grains, but where certainly better at living on it then the Indo-european invaders, who likely had little plant food in their diet besides in times of scarcity.

[Dorian]

the authors of history shouldn't be ignored, they may have a times exaggerated events, but I assure you they weren't making up descriptions, and the events that they or the people they knew lived through

Yes they should ,now that we have genetics...either way such descriptions only prove that there was such minorities&none of us doubt this ,what we doubt is fairytales of overwhelming majorities&"muh elite dominance"..We still have a lot to see.

[TheOldNorth]

Yes they should ,now that we have genetics...either way such descriptions only prove that there was such minorities&none of us doubt this ,what we doubt is fairytales of overwhelming majorities&"muh elite dominance"..We still have a lot to see.

what you are suggesting would be denying history, as much of it is indeed real history, they said Troy never existed, and that the walls of Jericho were never felled, regardless of mentions of gods and heroes these things seemed to have happened as both places have been found, with Troy looking as though it had been ransacked and the walls of Jericho very much felled. To deny such works and only rely on what scant remnants lie in the earth is foolish in itself, as we'd know almost nothing of the past except broad truths, and no details.

[Dorian]

comrade? I'm no nazi, but I do believe in the strength of the indo-european peoples as history has shown again and again that they can dominate, and are the well from which the springs of western culture flow. Also if you thought I meant EEF where more sensitive to high carb diet, thats not what I meant, I meant that the EEF became so short in height and lifespan because they so heavily relied on breads and grains, but where certainly better at living on it then the Indo-european invaders, who likely had little plant food in their diet besides in times of scarcity.

Judging by modern types ,it's still "paleolithic"influenced ones who seem adapted for "ie" diet&who'd do bad on high-carb ,I don't think "nordics" look closer to savage meat-eaters(see "CM"{?}derived types) compared to meds let's say.
As for the rest ,they are on theory-level..time will show.

[TheOldNorth]

Judging by modern types ,it's still "paleolithic"influenced ones who seem adapted for "ie" diet&who'd do bad on high-carb ,I don't think "nordics" look closer to savage meat-eaters(see "CM"{?}derived types) compared to meds let's say.
As for the rest ,they are on theory-level..time will show.

well if you look at the historical accounts of the romans (which I know can be biased at times) the Goths were said to eat mostly meat, with little farming or foraging, something I can easily believe in especially sense the population wasn't so big that nature would struggle to provide that much meat at that point

[Dorian]

what you are suggesting would be denying history, as much of it is indeed real history, they said Troy never existed, and that the walls of Jericho were never felled, regardless of mentions of gods and heroes these things seemed to have happened as both places have been found, with Troy looking as though it had been ransacked and the walls of Jericho very much felled. To deny such works and only rely on what scant remnants lie in the earth is foolish in itself, as we'd know almost nothing of the past except broad truths, and no details.

To go from reading some texts about pigmentations to "but I do believe in the strength of the indo-european peoples as history has shown again and again that they can dominate, and are the well from which the springs of western culture flow" is a fallacy&more like wishful thinking ,it's not like you can run calculators for something complex as a culture ,put simply If "western civilization" is based on GrecoRoman be sure you act&think a lot like an "eef" "east med" and whatever.

[TheOldNorth]

To go from reading some texts about pigmentations to "but I do believe in the strength of the indo-european peoples as history has shown again and again that they can dominate, and are the well from which the springs of western culture flow" is a fallacy&more like wishful thinking ,it's not like you can run calculators for something complex as a culture ,put simply If "western civilization" is based on GrecoRoman be sure you act&think a lot like an "eef" "east med" and whatever.

let us not forget what language family Latin and Greek come from, and Who's gods Zeus, Athena, Herakles, and Hermes are descended from, the main contribution of the EEF in western culture is agriculture, and the cult of the Bull from which Spanish bull fights descended...

[Pedro Ruben]

https://i.imgur.com/LQvB93z.jpg

[Dorian]

let us not forget what language family Latin and Greek come from, and Who's gods Zeus, Athena, Herakles, and Hermes are descended from, the main contribution of the EEF in western culture is agriculture, and the cult of the Bull from which Spanish bull fights descended...

Greeks were Greeks ,Latins were Latins ,evolved seperately ,so simple..as city-state&tribes did ,as neighborhoods do ,as individuals do,as generations do,as mixes of people&cultures do.
If anything it's descendants that should look up to ancestors ,not the opposite ,you won't see pygmies claiming civilizations ,you won't see kavkaz or uralics claiming anything the "history" of so called "pie" either.
As for the rest ,I'm not interested in ie-pie things ,that's just a theory too.

[Coastal Elite]

Anatolian metallurgy isn't getting enough respect on this thread.

[Kaspias]

https://i.ibb.co/4sSywzL/Ads-z.png

[Hulu]

I'm the least indo European from Europeans

[celticdragongod]

My results (I am Irish):

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[Albannach]

https://i.imgur.com/MGEQw17.png

[TheOldNorth]

Greeks were Greeks ,Latins were Latins ,evolved seperately ,so simple..as city-state&tribes did ,as neighborhoods do ,as individuals do,as generations do,as mixes of people&cultures do.
If anything it's descendants that should look up to ancestors ,not the opposite ,you won't see pygmies claiming civilizations ,you won't see kavkaz or uralics claiming anything the "history" of so called "pie" either.
As for the rest ,I'm not interested in ie-pie things ,that's just a theory too.

its not a theory, we literally have their bones and cities

[TheOldNorth]

Anatolian metallurgy isn't getting enough respect on this thread.

yeah but who mastered it

[TheOldNorth]

I'm the least indo European from Europeans

I noticed that with another albanian on another thread who had very similar series of results

[TheOldNorth]

My results (I am Irish):

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thanks, its much appreciated for me study

[someonenotyou]

https://i.imgur.com/O71Fp8e.png

Fully Hungarian.

[TheOldNorth]

bump

[Pater Patota]

Why do I get less numbers?

https://photouploads.com/images/EkLC.jpg

[Trouble]

Not accurate for me. Many more of my ancestors livedi n europe than it claims

[TheOldNorth]

Why do I get less numbers?

https://photouploads.com/images/EkLC.jpg

I don't know, whats your ethnicity? did you use K36 results?

[Dušan]

https://i.imgur.com/LEBh5ew.jpg

[Nurzat]

https://scontent.fotp1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/77268702_127948298644969_4267126944325173248_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ohc=HWKDQmXgn6oAQkDyy7aZAOLfDW4yyZpSxnlfLgeudv gj15Y67EP9fZJ4g&_nc_ht=scontent.fotp1-1.fna&oh=8d330ebf1021320490f72bc0f26ec539&oe=5E43EA93

Europe total 86%
56% Indo-European expansion
26% European Farmer
4% Local European HG

Anatolian Copper Age 11%

Siberian 2%


I like this!

[TheOldNorth]

Not accurate for me. Many more of my ancestors livedi n europe than it claims

where's your map? maybe I can see for my self

[TheOldNorth]

https://scontent.fotp1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/77268702_127948298644969_4267126944325173248_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ohc=HWKDQmXgn6oAQkDyy7aZAOLfDW4yyZpSxnlfLgeudv gj15Y67EP9fZJ4g&_nc_ht=scontent.fotp1-1.fna&oh=8d330ebf1021320490f72bc0f26ec539&oe=5E43EA93

Europe total 86%
56% Indo-European expansion
26% European Farmer
4% Local European HG

Anatolian Copper Age 11%

Siberian 2%


I like this!

are you full blooded romanian?

[Trouble]

where's your map? maybe I can see for my self

this isnt accurate for non whites

[Dušan]

What is that local European HG?
What nation get largest pecentage of that?

[TheOldNorth]

this isnt accurate for non whites

well thats probably true, but what ethnicity are you? Kazakh? Turkmen? Ossetian?

[TheOldNorth]

What is that local European HG?
What nation get largest pecentage of that?

I think that means what ever Hunter Gatherer genes that don't fit in with the Eastern hunter gatherers that became the indo-europeans, I've seen swedes and poles get 7

[Trouble]

well thats probably true, but what ethnicity are you? Kazakh? Turkmen? Ossetian?

indian

[TheOldNorth]

indian

didn't expect that with you living in russia, could I see what results it gave you anyway to see the problem?

[Trouble]

didn't expect that with you living in russia, could I see what results it gave you anyway to see the problem?

i dont really live there but the thing is European components are mixed in with South Central Asian and that seriously deflates the amount of european ancestors

[TheOldNorth]

i dont really live there but the thing is European components are mixed in with South Central Asian and that seriously deflates the amount of european ancestors

yeah but there is an indian population on the map, so what does that say? I wan't to see the numbers and see whats wrong

[Trouble]

yeah but there is an indian population on the map, so what does that say? I wan't to see the numbers and see whats wrong

It just says Asia, not India:

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[TheOldNorth]

It just says Asia, not India:

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scroll down on the page

[Nurzat]

It just says Asia, not India:

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maybe your White ancestry is CHG ancestry (based on the map). Aryans invading India carried a lot of CHG genes as well. local BMAC people of Southcentral Asia had important CHG too.

[Pater Patota]

I don't know, whats your ethnicity? did you use K36 results?

Yes, I used K36 and I’m pretty sure there is no any mistake.

Btw, I’m mainly from west asia, I’m ethnically mixed.Ciracassian, Armenian, Pontic Greek, Kurdish and some distant ancestry from Balkans.

[Trouble]

scroll down on the page

thanks. european is still low. Just completed one for my father

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[TheOldNorth]

Yes, I used K36 and I’m pretty sure there is no any mistake.

Btw, I’m mainly from west asia, I’m ethnically mixed.Ciracassian, Armenian, Pontic Greek, Kurdish and some distant ancestry from Balkans.

maybe the sight malfunctioned, I'd try it again after closing and reopening the page, because you should be getting high amounts of Anatolian Copper age and Arab and Levantine

[Henryk]

I have small number https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191123/da81e9be6be61fc12befdb24c66879e5.jpg


Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

[andre]

Is That normal for a romanian?
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[Nurzat]

Is That normal for a romanian?
92969

why not?

we're from the same region I think.


me vs you:

Europe total: 86% vs 64% (but they could include CHG with Europe and you'd be at 84%)

Indo-European expansion: 56% vs 51% (similar)

European Farmer: 26% vs 7% (I've got more Basque-like native epic shit probably)

Local European HG: 4% vs 6% (similar)

Anatolian Copper Age 11% vs 20% (you've got higher CHG probably)

Siberian: 2% vs - (noise level, not relevant)

North Africa: - vs 2% (noise level, not relevant)

Levant: - vs 13% (surprising)

Iran Chalcolithic, Asia, India, Africa: - vs -

[Kaspias]

What is that local European HG?
What nation get largest pecentage of that?

I also got 7. I don't know what is it though

[Dušan]

I also got 7. I don't know what is it though

Maybe some Finnic/Uralic component.
How much Volga-Ural did you get in K36?

[Ford]

https://i.imgur.com/XbZJLFO.png

[Kaspias]

Maybe some Finnic/Uralic component.
How much Volga-Ural did you get in K36?

Volga-Ural 2.11 Pct

[Kaspias]

Double

[Oghuz]

lots of Anatolian descendants lol

[Kyp]

Double

[Kyp]

lots of Anatolian descendants lol

Look at me. Very Anadol
https://i.imgur.com/ToJwcgH.jpg

[Oghuz]

Look at me. Very Anadol
https://i.imgur.com/ToJwcgH.jpg

Iranian Cline in early CHL age had mild input from Anatolian farmers (major were Iran_CHL). Makes sense

[SUPREEEEEME]

Mine:

Total Europe: 40
- European Farmer 14
- Indo-European expansion 26

North Africa 2
Anatolian Copper Age 28
Levant & Arabia 27
Iran CHL 2

[TheOldNorth]

Ok
Mine:

Total Europe: 40
- European Farmer 14
- Indo-European expansion 26

North Africa 2
Anatolian Copper Age 28
Levant & Arabia 27
Iran CHL 2

Are you Askenazi, Sephardi, or Mizrahi?

[TheOldNorth]

Is That normal for a romanian?
92969

Looks to be so

[TheOldNorth]

https://i.imgur.com/XbZJLFO.png

Are you of any pure ethnicity? And if so which? (For my study on the averages of each nationality)

[Ford]

Are you of any pure ethnicity? And if so which? (For my study on the averages of each nationality)

I'm Serb.

[andre]

Looks to be so

It’s strange the levantine component. It’s so high for a north-eastern romanian.

[WhatsGoingOnBigGuy]

are there any population maps with averages for the 4500 locations? Only seems to be maps for the 15000 ancestors on that page

[Pine]

Total Europe: 22
- European Farmer 12
- Indo European expansion 10

North Africa 4
Anatolian Copper Age 41
Levant & Arabia 29
Iran CHL 2
Asia 2

[SUPREEEEEME]

Ok

Are you Askenazi, Sephardi, or Mizrahi?

Ashkenazi

[TheOldNorth]

are there any population maps with averages for the 4500 locations? Only seems to be maps for the 15000 ancestors on that page

scroll down on the page

[TheOldNorth]

Total Europe: 22
- European Farmer 12
- Indo European expansion 10

North Africa 4
Anatolian Copper Age 41
Levant & Arabia 29
Iran CHL 2
Asia 2

are you ashkenazi? sephardi? or mizrahi?

[visar]

https://i.imgur.com/sglyOUl.jpg

[Dna8]

European Farmer 28
Indo European expansion 4
North Africa 4
Anatolian Copper Age 34
Levant & Arabia 16
Iran CHL 18
Asia 3

[TheOldNorth]

https://i.imgur.com/sglyOUl.jpg

the fact that your slavic blood is more 'aryan' then most germans make hitler role in his grave

[TheOldNorth]

European Farmer 28
Indo European expansion 4
North Africa 4
Anatolian Copper Age 34
Levant & Arabia 16
Iran CHL 18
Asia 3

What ethnicity?

[TheOldNorth]

bump

[TheOldNorth]

the averages that I can come too
amount of people-ethnicity-PIE-EEF-WHG-ACA-NA-L&A-ICHL
4-Serbian- 55.5-17.5-5-18-1-2.75-0
3-Gaelic(irish/scottish)- 80.6-15.3-1.6-1.6-0-0-0
2-Albanian- 18-26-0.5-45-1.5-8-0.5
2-Portuguese- 35.5-39.5-0.5-9-5-7-0
2-Polish- 81.5-5.5-10-3-0-0-0

[WhatsGoingOnBigGuy]

scroll down on the page

I mean these: https://imgur.com/a/LoBOX8V

these 5 relate to the 15000 components, just wondering it theres averages for the 4500s somewhere.

[TheOldNorth]

I mean these: https://imgur.com/a/LoBOX8V

these 5 relate to the 15000 components, just wondering it theres averages for the 4500s somewhere.

don't know

[TheMaestro]

https://i.imgur.com/8QF3frk.jpg

[Pine]

are you ashkenazi? sephardi? or mizrahi?

I'm Ashkenazi, but I'll skew your study, as I'm in the outlier range for Ashkenazim.

[Dna8]

What ethnicity?

Romance Dinarid.

[TheOldNorth]

bump

[drewcastle]

https://i.imgur.com/dqHqZHN.jpg

For comparison 15.000 years ago
https://i.imgur.com/01IKhVk.png

[TheOldNorth]

https://i.imgur.com/dqHqZHN.jpg

For comparison 15.000 years ago
https://i.imgur.com/01IKhVk.png

are you mostly spanish?

[Coastal Elite]

How swarthy was "Anatolian Copper Age"? I feel a real connection to them.

[PAGANE]

My mother
Total Europe: 47
European Farmer: 3
Indo-European Expansion: 43
Local European HG: 1
Anatolian Copper Age: 42
Iran CHL: 1
North-Africa: 0

My brother
Total Europe: 54
European Farmer: 6
Indo-European Expansion: 46
Local European HG: 1
Anatolian Copper Age: 34
Iran CHL: 2
North-Africa: 1

Mine
Total Europe: 60
European Farmer: 10
Indo-European Expansion: 47
Local European HG: 3
Anatolian Copper Age: 28
Iran CHL: 3
North-Africa: 0

[Pater Patota]

maybe the sight malfunctioned, I'd try it again after closing and reopening the page, because you should be getting high amounts of Anatolian Copper age and Arab and Levantine

This is my k36 proportions

Arabian 3.32 Pct
Armenian 11.19 Pct
Basque 0.63 Pct
Central_Euro 1.32 Pct
East_Balkan 1.92 Pct
East_Central_Asian 2.31 Pct
East_Med 14.17 Pct
Iberian 4.55 Pct
Italian 6.57 Pct
Near_Eastern 8.75 Pct
North_Atlantic 3.48 Pct
North_Caucasian 19.58 Pct
South_Central_Asian 11.63 Pct
West_Caucasian 9.59 Pct
West_Med 0.97 Pct

I've tried several times but still same.

[TheOldNorth]

This is my k36 proportions

Arabian 3.32 Pct
Armenian 11.19 Pct
Basque 0.63 Pct
Central_Euro 1.32 Pct
East_Balkan 1.92 Pct
East_Central_Asian 2.31 Pct
East_Med 14.17 Pct
Iberian 4.55 Pct
Italian 6.57 Pct
Near_Eastern 8.75 Pct
North_Atlantic 3.48 Pct
North_Caucasian 19.58 Pct
South_Central_Asian 11.63 Pct
West_Caucasian 9.59 Pct
West_Med 0.97 Pct

I've tried several times but still same.

I did it and it worked just fine

Indo-european: 6
European farmer: 3
Anatolian: 48
Iran CHL: 29
Lev.& Arabia: 10
North Africa: 1
Asia: 2

[TheOldNorth]

How swarthy was "Anatolian Copper Age"? I feel a real connection to them.

I think they're quite similar to the people who lived their after them, so probably like a modern middle-easterner, maybe somewhere in between a Kurd and an Armenian, although personally I like the Indo-europeans better, because they are the better group in health, and strength, and in morals, valuing freedom of the spirit, and for a man to be completely self-sufficient, yet be able to help and be helped by kinsmen, unlike old mid-easterners in their packed city-life settlements, in harsh environments not allowing for the freedom of men in the spirit to wander about in the same way you would on the Steppe

[TheOldNorth]

How swarthy was "Anatolian Copper Age"? I feel a real connection to them.

repeat

[oszkar07]

Oszkar

https://i.imgur.com/uOV7c7T.jpg?1

[Pater Patota]

How swarthy was "Anatolian Copper Age"? I feel a real connection to them.

Imo, neolithic and copper age anatolians were quite swarthy.I believe, they were similar to nowadays Fertile Crescent folks.

[drewcastle]

are you mostly spanish?
yes, a mix of eastern andalusian and valencian

this is my grandma from andalusia
https://i.imgur.com/hPOSmjQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/Jx7Xb3U.png

[drewcastle]

Imo, neolithic and copper age anatolians were quite swarthy.I believe, they were similar to nowadays Fertile Crescent folks.

Neolithic anatolians were least swarthy than whg
https://i.imgur.com/Q0WSVqY.jpg

[TheOldNorth]

Neolithic anatolians were least swarthy than whg
https://i.imgur.com/Q0WSVqY.jpg

Well WHG were basically black caucasoids, in skin only, not in genetics or phenotype, but still black

[Dorian]

So they were the first actual owds who chose to get bleached?

[TheOldNorth]

So they were the first actual owds who chose to get bleached?

Well if you consider letting EEF and PIE take over you as ‘getting bleached’ then yeah

[Domias]

It's really different of my Ancient Gedmatch results (ANE, Farmer vs HG...)

Local HG : 3
IE Expansion : 41
EEF : 55
Anatolian : 1

With Gedmatch it's more like ANE 10%, EEF 40 and HG 50 (nearly but in different percent with certain calculators)...

I'm French from the center, the 4500 ya calculator is more realistic, no ?

[TheOldNorth]

It's really different of my Ancient Gedmatch results (ANE, Farmer vs HG...)

Local HG : 3
IE Expansion : 41
EEF : 55
Anatolian : 1

With Gedmatch it's more like ANE 10%, EEF 40 and HG 50 (nearly but in different percent with certain calculators)...

I'm French from the center, the 4500 ya calculator is more realistic, no ?

Well the Hunter gathered on this means exclusively WHG, while on gedmatch it means WHG+EHG, while the EHG+ANE is IE invader here

[Domias]

Yes, you're certainly right. And EEF were ANF+WHG. In fact PIE were ANE+EHG+CHG, no ?
It would be interesting to have a calculator wich detect all of these people before mix, but maybe it is complicated ?

[TheOldNorth]

Yes, you're certainly right. And EEF were ANF+WHG. In fact PIE were ANE+EHG+CHG, no ?
It would be interesting to have a calculator wich detect all of these people before mix, but maybe it is complicated ?

There would certainly be some overlap in between EHG, ANE, and WHG, and perhaps some between CHG and EEF

[PT Tagus]

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[Ritz06]

https://i.imgur.com/wktU2Cf.png

[TheOldNorth]

bump

[Helen]

Mine
I am fully spanish
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191208/564b2f6c62e251e54894bf78c5eb2f7e.jpg

[Freeroostah]

https://i.imgur.com/L5VmIY0.png

[TheOldNorth]

sample size, ethnicity, IE, EF, HG, ACA, NA, L&A, ICHl, Af
4 Serbian 55.5, 17.5, 5, 18, 1, 2.75, 0, 0
4 Gaelic 80.25, 16, 2, 1.25, 0, 0, 0, 0
3 Portuguese 36, 40.3, 0.6, 10.6, 4, 5.3, 0.3, 2.3
3 Swedish 78, 13.3, 7.3, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0
2 Albanian 18, 26, 0.5, 45, 1.5, 8, 0.5, 0
2 Greek 29, 14, 1.5, 40, 2, 13, 1, 0

[Celestia]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=93518&d=1575837581

[TheOldNorth]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=93518&d=1575837581

something appeared to have messed up in yours, did you type in your k36 results?

[Celestia]

something appeared to have messed up in yours, did you type in your k36 results?
Yes I did.
I noticed the percentages were off as well I’m not sure why.

[TheOldNorth]

Yes I did.
I noticed the percentages were off as well I’m not sure why.

perhaps try it on a different device? or just tell me your k36 and I'll type it in, I think that's how I fixed it for the last person who had this problem

[Celestia]

perhaps try it on a different device? or just tell me your k36 and I'll type it in, I think that's how I fixed it for the last person who had this problem

Gedmatch is down for me. I’ll send you my k36 when it starts working again, thanks.

[marco]

https://i.imgur.com/MyvJlUS.png

How do I make images show like that

[Morlak]

https://serving.photos.photobox.com/8740812592d2492efc91b2974d3fe40aaa3cb3c2185981a5f7 6f2e724d50afcd5cf592ad.jpg

[MiloshN]

https://serving.photos.photobox.com/8740812592d2492efc91b2974d3fe40aaa3cb3c2185981a5f7 6f2e724d50afcd5cf592ad.jpgDobri rezultati, samo te sjebala y-dna grupa...

Послато са Nokia 2 помоћу Тапатока

[Morlak]

Dobri rezultati, samo te sjebala y-dna grupa...

Послато са Nokia 2 помоћу Тапатока

Jebiga, ajde što je E nego što ima direktne veze sa Arnautima al dobro lepo kaže Njegoš "Ko se stidi porijekla, vazda rđa dovijeka"

[MiloshN]

Jebiga, ajde što je E nego što ima direktne veze sa Arnautima al dobro lepo kaže Njegoš "Ko se stidi porijekla, vazda rđa dovijeka"Ma znam taj osećaj...

Послато са Nokia 2 помоћу Тапатока

[TheOldNorth]

How do I make images show like that

https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K36expe3.htm

[Kökény]

93559

[TheOldNorth]

93559

Very indo-european for a pure turk

[Kökény]

Very indo-european for a pure turk

Haha I'm not pure turk. I'm a szekler. :D
I put turkic in my meta ethnicity because I symphatize with them, and I believe that we were originally a turkic tribe.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

https://i.imgur.com/5nSpCME.png

[TheOldNorth]

Haha I'm not pure turk. I'm a szekler. :D
I put turkic in my meta ethnicity because I symphatize with them, and I believe that we were originally a turkic tribe.

The indo Europeans? Nah the Turks are closer to Koreans at least linguistically and closer to Siberians genetically

[TheOldNorth]

Haha I'm not pure turk. I'm a szekler. :D
I put turkic in my meta ethnicity because I symphatize with them, and I believe that we were originally a turkic tribe.

Repeat

[Kökény]

The indo Europeans? Nah the Turks are closer to Koreans at least linguistically and closer to Siberians genetically

Not the indo europeans. I'm talking about my people.

[TheOldNorth]

Not the indo europeans. I'm talking about my people.

Magyars? Their Uralic in nature like Fins and Estonians, even if the modern Magyars where full blooded (which they aren’t) then they’d still be closer to indo-Europeans then Turks at least linguistically, maybe not genetically though it’d be close

[Kökény]

Magyars? Their Uralic in nature like Fins and Estonians, even if the modern Magyars where full blooded (which they aren’t) then they’d still be closer to indo-Europeans then Turks at least linguistically, maybe not genetically though it’d be close

Lol no not the magyars. The szekelys. It seems like, you are not familiar with us. We speak hungarian, but we are not the same with the magyars. We are a minority from Romania.

[TheOldNorth]

Lol no not the magyars. The szekelys. It seems like, you are not familiar with us. We speak hungarian, but we are not the same with the magyars. We are a minority from Romania.

I guess not, are you actually descended of like Turkic groups that tagged along with the Magyars in their migration to Central Europe?

[Kökény]

I guess not, are you actually descended of like Turkic groups that tagged along with the Magyars in their migration to Central Europe?

Yep. Or we were already here before them. It's either one of those options. Just take a look at our flag. Also we usually have higher siberian and asian genes than them.

[TheOldNorth]

Yep. Or we were already here before them. It's either one of those options. Just take a look at our flag. Also we usually have higher siberian and asian genes than them.

Interesting

[noricum]

https://s19.directupload.net/images/191209/p23ufjlm.jpg (https://www.directupload.net)

[TheOldNorth]

Any new comers wish to share?

[vbnetkhio]

Any new comers wish to share?

https://i.imgur.com/sqlcidw.png

[Chris596]

Any new comers wish to share?

Using my largest DNA data with the most SNP count, results from Admixture Studio. This is the most accurate in my case so far:

https://i.imgur.com/QHrpHoM.png



Armenian 2.59 Pct
Basque 1.69 Pct
Central_Euro 4.00 Pct
East_Balkan 5.44 Pct
East_Central_Euro 16.53 Pct
East_Med 7.94 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.27 Pct
Fennoscandian 5.59 Pct
French 3.48 Pct
Iberian 6.27 Pct
Italian 13.19 Pct
Malayan 0.51 Pct
North_Atlantic 5.53 Pct
North_Caucasian 6.38 Pct
North_Sea 5.43 Pct
Pygmy 0.11 Pct
West_Caucasian 2.57 Pct
West_Med 2.48 Pct

[calxpal]

https://i.ibb.co/SPZLCgc/Capturemapc.jpg

[MandM]

https://i.ibb.co/bPnVzQJ/mapk36.png (https://ibb.co/bPnVzQJ)

a question! on FTDNA i bought Y37 strs, if i would buy let say 67 or bigger, will my results change on all the other calculators?

[vbnetkhio]

https://i.ibb.co/bPnVzQJ/mapk36.png (https://ibb.co/bPnVzQJ)

a question! on FTDNA i bought Y37 strs, if i would buy let say 67 or bigger, will my results change on all the other calculators?

no, you'll just get 67 y-dna markers.

[Dušan]

https://i.imgur.com/sqlcidw.png

You have different result than me this time, although K13 results are very similar.

[ModernMaskil]

https://i.ibb.co/PFtFw4b/aaa.png

[axel.aleman]

https://images4.imagebam.com/f2/b5/00/ME5Z9A4_o.PNG

[Andullero]

https://images4.imagebam.com/f2/b5/00/ME5Z9A4_o.PNG

Where do you get this map?

[axel.aleman]

Where do you get this map?

Pegas tus resultados de Eurogenes K36 en esta pagina: https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K36expe3.htm

[Andullero]

111746

[Mixdguy17]

https://i.imgur.com/xFyyUf8.png

[Gallop]

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Mine
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[chinshen]

111751

[frankhammer]

https://i.imgur.com/9SEqmGT.png

[alexmegas777]

https://i.ibb.co/84dMmh7/Untitled.png