classify/place Hungarian Count from Transylvania

[Jana]

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[Benyzero]

Norid-Carpathid !? I think it's fair for him.

[Jana]

Norid-Carpathid !? I think it's fair for him.

Yes good fit, I think he looks very Transylvanian Magyar. :p

[Daos777]

Very non EHG look. Won’t pass in Poland, Ukraine, or heavily Slavic areas of Moldova.

[Benyzero]

Yes good fit, I think he looks very Transylvanian Magyar. :p

Kinda noble look, He reminds me a little of Ralph Fiennes. He would be a celtic nordid, if from the UK. :D

[vorobuthek]

neo-danubian + dinarid

[Omanvassal]

Austrian

[Jana]

Kinda noble look, He reminds me a little of Ralph Fiennes. He would be a celtic nordid, if from the UK. :D

Yes, very much I tought the same :D

[Benyzero]

Austrian

Oh this slavic chauvinism mania comes again

[Jana]

Very non EHG look. Won’t pass in Poland, Ukraine, or heavily Slavic areas of Moldova.


Austrian

Agree, he shifts to Central-Euro German look, not very Slavic. But he is Magyar.

[Jana]

Oh this slavic chauvinism mania comes again

They angry potato phenotypes rare among nobility xD

[Benyzero]

They angry potato phenotypes rare among nobility xD

lol

[Benyzero]

He would fit austria well tho.

[Omanvassal]

Agree, he shifts to Central-Euro German look, not very Slavic. But he is Magyar.

Hes just Austrian

[aherne]

Resembles Romanian nationalist Gheorghe Funar in his youth: Norid-CM

[Jana]

Resembles Romanian nationalist Gheorghe Funar in his youth: Norid-CM

But Romanian looks Balkan, like a Serb: https://www.google.com/search?q=Gheorghe+Funar&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjL5q6nvv7lAhU9xMQBHf4wDpsQ_AUoAXoECBAQA w&biw=1920&bih=1007

[Daos777]

Hes just Austrian

https://youtu.be/hHgD-rcp1-E


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[Jana]

Hes just Austrian

No, he isn't. Cry.

[Omanvassal]

But Romanian looks Balkan, like a Serb: https://www.google.com/search?q=Gheorghe+Funar&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjL5q6nvv7lAhU9xMQBHf4wDpsQ_AUoAXoECBAQA w&biw=1920&bih=1007

This guy doesn't look like Noble, wtf nigga. Noble is a Voivoda, this German Bavarian fuck ain't no Voivoda

LOL

[Daos777]

But Romanian looks Balkan, like a Serb: https://www.google.com/search?q=Gheorghe+Funar&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjL5q6nvv7lAhU9xMQBHf4wDpsQ_AUoAXoECBAQA w&biw=1920&bih=1007

Romanians are not even one people. There are three significantly distinct populations living in Romania.

https://www.romania-insider.com/genetic-study-research-dna-romania

[Omanvassal]

Quoted wrong dude..

[Jana]

This guy doesn't look like Noble, wtf nigga. Noble is a Voivoda, this German Bavarian fuck ain't no Voivoda

LOL

He looks noble but you look like ISIS member. You are just jelaous (on Stears too)

[Jana]

Romanians are not even one people. There are three significantly distinct populations living in Romania.

https://www.romania-insider.com/genetic-study-research-dna-romania

That's just mtdna, even though it's true Romanians are genetically not the same in every region, kind of expected for such large country.

[Omanvassal]

He looks noble but you look like ISIS member. You are just jelaous (on Stears too)

Your hubby? That guy look like down syndrome I don't like to be disrespectful, but your kids got a bad hand definitely. Like offsuit 7 and 2 in blackjack

[Jana]

Your hubby? That guy look like down syndrome I don't like to be disrespectful, but your kids got a bad hand definitely. Like offsuit 7 and 2 in blackjack

Haha, open a thread and post your and his photos and let's ask TA member who looks better. xD
But you have no courage for that because you already know the outcome.

[Omanvassal]

Haha, open a thread and post your and his photos and let's ask TA member who looks better. xD
But you have no courage for that because you already know the outcome.

Why? My photo is here

You don't think I'm sexy

[Omanvassal]

Haha, open a thread and post your and his photos and let's ask TA member who looks better. xD
But you have no courage for that because you already know the outcome.

You a 2.5/10 you know that right?

Plus you have some other shit I'm not going elaborate but that bring your stock low and was low to start

[Carpatz]

Dinaric + Alpine, or Carpathid. His look is common among Romanians.

[Omanvassal]

Dinaric + Alpine, or Carpathid. His look is common among Romanians.

Right! That German shift is what makes you Balkan Carpatz! I will pass brother, stay true these Steppes

[Mr.G]

Sort of transitional, from Norid to Dinaro-Alpine.

[Jana]

You a 2.5/10 you know that right?

Plus you have some other shit I'm not going elaborate but that bring your stock low and was low to start

You look like crap to my taste. I won't comment the rest.

[Jana]

Dinaric + Alpine, or Carpathid. His look is common among Romanians.

I didn't notice that.

[Cumansky]

You look like crap to my taste. I won't comment the rest.

What is your taste? HPV D

[Jana]

What is your taste? HPV D

Better looking men than you. And you're reported for sock account.

[Daco Celtic]

No doubt I inspired this thread with when I posted this link in an earlier thread:

https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlin...ted-to-dracula

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?303248-k36-schematic-map-(-quot-PCA-quot-)&p=6352200&viewfull=1#post6352200

[Omanvassal]

No doubt I inspired this thread with when I posted this link in an earlier thread:

https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlin...ted-to-dracula

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?303248-k36-schematic-map-(-quot-PCA-quot-)&p=6352200&viewfull=1#post6352200

100%

[anaise]

Carpathid + slight Nordid...
So Dinarid+Alpine+Nordid...or Alpine+Norid...

[Jana]

No doubt I inspired this thread with when I posted this link in an earlier thread:

https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlin...ted-to-dracula

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?303248-k36-schematic-map-(-quot-PCA-quot-)&p=6352200&viewfull=1#post6352200

Is that a problem? This guy is friend of Prince Charles.

[Daco Celtic]

Is that a problem? This guy is friend of Prince Charles.

Not at all. I'm just a goofy American so don't take me too seriously. I like Hungarians btw, and don't care about the Romania vs. Hungarian rivalries since I'm very American.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Hungarian-German mix, would guess him as Hungarian from a mile here in Transylvania. Even though there are more slender Germans he is peculiar.

[ixulescu]

But Romanian looks Balkan, like a Serb:

OP guy does resemble Ralph Fiennes, but also Funar in his younger years (2nd and 3rd pics in the OP), even though RF looks nothing like Funar.

This Romanian actor pulls a better young Ralph Fiennes IMO:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS8SD4zwYDYiBCmeH_q5WkM-35ESNPjgeSjuFrdejK-naU_q9VH&s

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMjIxNjU3MzUxMV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwMTIyMTMxOTE@._ V1_.jpg

https://www.wallofcelebrities.com/celebrity/sabin-tambrea/pictures/original/sabin-tambrea_1459645.jpg

[Jana]

^^^^Yes, looks very much like Ralph Fiennes indeed :)

[ixulescu]

^^^^Yes, looks very much like Ralph Fiennes indeed :)

The Romanian dude is from Tg Mures, so I suspect some German influence, maybe Hungarian as well.
He lives in Germany anyway :D

[Jana]

The Romanian dude is from Tg Mures, so I suspect some German influence, maybe Hungarian as well.
He lives in Germany anyway :D

He's handsome, and I think Germans don't think he is foreign. He could be part Sicul who know, it's town in Szeklerland after all (Romanian majority now, but lot of Magyars too). I've been there.

[Daco Celtic]

Looks central European but the eyes seem a little east shifted. Kinda looks like a cousin of mine who is a Romanian-NW European mix.

[anaise]

The Romanian dude is from Tg Mures, so I suspect some German influence, maybe Hungarian as well.
He lives in Germany anyway :D
Is he Romanian or Hungarian ? 😊

[anaise]

Is he Romanian or Hungarian ? 😊
Why do you suspect German influence if he is from Tîrgu-Mureș? There were no Transylvanian Saxons there...

[Jana]

PS I didn't know more Hungarians lived in Targu Mures than in Cluj.

''According to the 2002 census data,the city had a population of 149,577. Among them 69,825 are Hungarians forming the largest urban Hungarian community in Romania, surpassing that of Cluj-Napoca. The 2002 census was the first to show the Hungarians as a local minority.''

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A2rgu_Mure%C8%99

[anaise]

PS I didn't know more Hungarians lived in Targu Mures than in Cluj.

We say they are half-half. There are like 48% Hungarians and 52% Romanians. The Gypsies from Tîrgu-Mureș pretend they are Hungarians. 😏
''According to the 2002 census data,the city had a population of 149,577. Among them 69,825 are Hungarians forming the largest urban Hungarian community in Romania, surpassing that of Cluj-Napoca. The 2002 census was the first to show the Hungarians as a local minority.''

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A2rgu_Mure%C8%99

[Jana]

Why do you suspect German influence if he is from Tîrgu-Mureș? There were no Transylvanian Saxons there...

Can be indirect trough Hungarian admixture. Translyvanian Hungarians mixed both with Germans and with Romanians.
They seem less Slavic and more Balkan than Hungarians from Hungary, but German admixture is big.

[Tommie]

Why do you suspect German influence if he is from Tîrgu-Mureș? There were no Transylvanian Saxons there...
Right. If anything, he might have some Hungarian ancestry, but not necessarily so, of course. His name is fully Romanian.

[anaise]

Right. If anything, he might have some Hungarian ancestry, but not necessarily so, of course. His name is fully Romanian.
What's his name?
Btw, I don't think he looks so Western. Not a typical Romanian but surely not so atypical here :) I would guess him as Central or Eastern European....

[Daco Celtic]

I think we're related.

https://i.imgur.com/ldY2U09.jpg

[Tommie]

What's his name?
Btw, I don't think he looks so Western. Not a typical Romanian but surely not so atypical here :) I would guess him as Central or Eastern European....
Sabin Tambrea :)

[anaise]

Sabin Tambrea :)
Thanks :)
Sabin? That's a Roman/Latin inspired name. No living Hungarian or German father would allow a latin name to his son :))

[ixulescu]

Why do you suspect German influence if he is from Tîrgu-Mureș? There were no Transylvanian Saxons there...

Szekelyland is right next to a region that used to be inhabited by Germans. This is why Szekelys have more German influence than Hungarians from Northwestern parts of Transylvania. So do Romanians from that place.

[ixulescu]

Is he Romanian or Hungarian ? 😊

By name he's Romanian. His sister also has a Romanian name, Alina - that wouldn't be a German or Hungarian name.

[anaise]

Szekelyland is right next to a region that used to be inhabited by Germans. This is why Szekelys have more German influence than Hungarians from Northwestern parts of Transylvania. So do Romanians from that place.
Well, my mother is from Tîrgu-Mures, but as far as we know we are full Romanians :) I still have yet to take a DNA test, I honestly will be astonished to have any German blood, but the Transylvanian Saxons mixed even with Gypsyes sometimes, so anything is possible :)

[ixulescu]

Well, my mother is from Tîrgu-Mures, but as far as we know we are full Romanians :) I still have yet to take a DNA test, I honestly will be astonished to have any German blood, but the Transylvanian Saxons mixed even with Gypsyes sometimes, so anything is possible :)

Of course, most Romanians there are not mixed, but in that area there is a higher probability than in other places to be mixed with Germans.

The mix of Romanians with Germans and Hungarians, in Mures and surroundings, is old - dating from times when marriages between Ortodoxes and Catholics were still possible. The interfaith marriages froze after the fall of Constantinople. They restarted slowly since 19th century.

[Jana]

The mix of Romanians with Germans and Hungarians (in that particular region of Romania) is old - dating from times when marriages between Ortodoxes and Catholics was still possible. The interfaith marriages froze after the fall of Constantinople. They restarted slowly since 19th century.

Yes, this is my guess as well.

[anaise]

Of course, most Romanians there are not mixed, but in that area there is a higher probability than in other places to be mixed with Germans.

The mix of Romanians with Germans and Hungarians, in Mures and surroundings, is old - dating from times when marriages between Ortodoxes and Catholics was still possible. The interfaith marriages froze after the fall of Constantinople. They restarted slowly since 19th century.
Well, I personally know a Saxon woman from Medias who married a Romanian man. She even babtized Orthodox to be with him and marry him. Her family was so, so angry :)) Now they are both over 80 years old and still together :)

[ixulescu]

Yes, this is my guess as well.

Now this is something I'm curious about Croats and Serbs. When did mixed marriages became difficult because of religious reasons? Or were they difficult anyway because of clan divisions? I don't know how this worked, I'd like to find out :)

[Daco Celtic]

I often hear that it is uncommon for a Saxon or Hungarian family to assimilate into a Romanian family but is it totally unheard of?

[anaise]

I often hear that it is uncommon for a Saxon or Hungarian family to assimilate into a Romanian family but is it totally unheard of?
There are many mixed families. Of course each ethnicity prefer mainly to marry their own people, but mixed families are not uncommon.

[Jana]

Now this is something I'm curious about Croats and Serbs. When did mixed marriages became difficult because of religious reasons? Or were they difficult anyway because of clan divisions? I don't know how this worked, I'd like to find out :)

It's hard to say, in our case I would say our intermixture is recent, opposite of Hungarian/Romanian case. Because Serbs migrated to Croatian lands quite late, during Ottoman conquest.
That time divisions between Catholics and Orthodox were already big. But during 20th century (especially during socialist Yugoslavia) this mix became extremely common, and now again is rare.

There were cases of religious conversions in the past tough, followed by assimilation.

[ixulescu]

It's hard to say, in our case I would say our intermixture is recent, opposite of Hungarian/Romanian case. Because Serbs migrated to Croatian lands quite late, during Ottoman conquest.
That time divisions between Catholics and Orthodox were already big. But during 20th century (especially during socialist Yugoslavia) this mix became extremely common, and now again is very rare.

There were cases of religious conversions in the past tough, followed by assimilation.

Thanks :thumb001:

[anaise]

What I've seen more often in Tîrgu-Mureș: more families between Romanian men and Hungarian women than between Hungarian men with Romanian women :))) but that's only a personal observation in my surroundings :)

[Jana]

There are many mixed families. Of course each ethnicity prefer mainly to marry their own people, but mixed families are not uncommon.

My Hungarian husband's family who live in Covasna county adopted Romanian orphan girl more than 20 years ago. But she wasn't raised as Hungarian, she knows who she is.
Ofcourse she is billingual and feels close to both communities.

[Daco Celtic]

There are many mixed families. Of course each ethnicity prefer mainly to marry their own people, but mixed families are not uncommon.

I just ask because one side of my family is from Transylvania and I wondered about potential mixes.

[anaise]

My Hungarian husband's family who live in Covasna county adopted Romanian orphan girl more than 20 years ago. But she wasn't raised as Hungarian, she knows who she is.
Ofcourse she is billingual and feels close to both communities.
That's nice :) My husband is half Hungrian but he feels more Romanian, although he speaks flently both languages, his father is from Bucharest and his mother is Hungarian but his father could never learn the Hungarian language, too difficult, hence his mother had to speak in Romanian with him :)
Does your husband speak Romanian ?

[Jana]

That's nice :) My husband is half Hungrian but he feels more Romanian, although he speaks flently both languages, his father is from Bucharest and his mother is Hungarian but his father could never learn the Hungarian language, too difficult, hence his mother had to speak in Romanian with him :)
Does your husband speak Romanian ?

He can't speak any, because he was born in Hungary. Even his father who was born in Transylvania didn't know any because his family went to Hungary when he was little.
But their family which remained in Transylvania all speak Romanian fluently. They are Szekelys btw, so stereotype Szekely don't speak Romanian isn't always accurate. :)

[anaise]

He can't speak any, because he was born in Hungary. Even his father who was born in Transylvania didn't know any because his family went to Hungary when he was little.
But their family which remained in Transylvania all speak Romanian fluently. They are Szekelys btw, so stereotype Szekely don't speak Romanian isn't always accurate. :)
Well, I know they learn it in school and they are exposed to Romanian mass media every day, even though we have in Transylvania many Hungarian channels. Between Romanians here there is a common saying that the Hungarians here can speak Romanian but they don't want to :))) that is true with many older people ( over 70), but at least in Mureș the young Hungarians speak Romanian fluently, even if they have a slight accent. It's also funny because the Hungarian and Romanian language have nothing in common, even if we are neighbours. In Mures we are 50/50 but in Szekelyland the Hungarians are many more than the Romanians.
I have nothing against the Hungarians but their language is so damn difficult 😂. I wanted my husband to teach me, I only know some separate simple words, but they are so damn hard to pronounce properly :))

[Jana]

Well, I know they learn it in school and they are exposed to Romanian mass media every day, even though we have in Transylvania many Hungarian channels. Between Romanians here there is a common saying that the Hungarians here can speak Romanian but they don't want to :))) that is true with many older people ( over 70), but at least in Mureș the young Hungarians speak Romanian fluently, even if they have a slight accent. It's also funny because the Hungarian and Romanian language have nothing in common, even if we are neighbours. In Mures we are 50/50 but in Szekelyland the Hungarians are many more than the Romanians.
I have nothing against the Hungarians but their language is so damn difficult ��. I wanted my husband to teach me, I only know some separate simple words, but they are so damn hard to pronounce properly :))

You can use Duolinguo online app to learn some Hungarian (if that interests you), it helped me a lot :p

[anaise]

You can use Duolinguo online app to learn some Hungarian (if that interests you), it helped me a lot :p
Is for you also difficult, isn't it ? Serbo-Croatian has also not much in common with Hungarian, I think :)))
Thank u for your advice ;)

[Jana]

Is for you also difficult, isn't it ? Serbo-Croatian has also not much in common with Hungarian, I think :)))
Thank u for your advice ;)

Yes, it has nothing in common but there are lot of Slavic loans in Hungarian and lot from Croatian in particular, we also have lot of Hungarian (and German like they have too) loans.
It came ''easy'' for me because I really wanted to learn it so much. But I speak only conversational level for now.

I am very untalented for foreign languages and learn with difficulties, but I really wanted to learn Hungarian and my determination made it easier.
Cheers :)

[anaise]

Yes, it has nothing in common but there are lot of Slavic loans in Hungarian and lot from Croatian in particular, we also have lot of Hungarian (and German like they have too) loans.
It came ''easy'' for me because I really wanted to learn it so much. But I speak only conversational level for now.

I am very untalented for foreign languages and learn with difficulties, but I really wanted to learn Hungarian and my determination made it easier.
Cheers :)
Cheers and thank you. Köszönöm :)
Could you please classify the girls I posted ? :)

[Jana]

Kinda noble look, He reminds me a little of Ralph Fiennes. He would be a celtic nordid, if from the UK. :D

Lol, I recently watched film where Ralph Finnes played Hungarian Count Laszlo de Almásy :D

https://www.google.com/search?q=ralph+fiennes+in+english+patient&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwibmL2cr9ToAhXCFXcKHYAbD8IQ_AUoAXoECBQQA w&biw=1920&bih=1007

This guy from OP is really similar, even in style (I wonder did he watch English patient for inspiration) xD

Could Ralph Finnes pass for Hungarian, than?

[Nurzat]

also Harrison Ford a bit, if no one mentioned

[Benyzero]

Lol, I recently watched film where Ralph Finnes played Hungarian Count Laszlo de Almásy :D

https://www.google.com/search?q=ralph+fiennes+in+english+patient&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwibmL2cr9ToAhXCFXcKHYAbD8IQ_AUoAXoECBQQA w&biw=1920&bih=1007

This guy from OP is really similar, even in style (I wonder did he watch English patient for inspiration) xD

Could Ralph Finnes pass for Hungarian, than?

Atipically maybe, but while there is some looks that could be associated with the hungarian population ofcourse, there isn't really typical hungarian look (If we rule out the stereotipical turanid which is very rare in pure form). So I would say, he has features which makes him able to pass, he still looks more northwestern than the average..

[Benyzero]

Lol, I recently watched film where Ralph Finnes played Hungarian Count Laszlo de Almásy :D

https://www.google.com/search?q=ralph+fiennes+in+english+patient&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwibmL2cr9ToAhXCFXcKHYAbD8IQ_AUoAXoECBQQA w&biw=1920&bih=1007

This guy from OP is really similar, even in style (I wonder did he watch English patient for inspiration) xD

Could Ralph Finnes pass for Hungarian, than?

Wow really he played in that movie I didnt realize

[Jana]

Thanks, Benji :thumb001:

[Universe]

Wouldn't guess Hungarian. Looks more like a German imo.

[Benyzero]

Thanks, Benji :thumb001:

Every time sweetheart :D

[Kivan]

Norid.