Any non-west asian peoples in these spots historically in Ottoman Empire? Maybe in 1720-1770 range

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Doing some research and it could be either of these spots but doing some more in depth looking so might not be totally right. The person I am doing research on is very south shifted but not "west asian" per say, more like Greece, Macedonia, etc.


https://i.imgur.com/CSpIxMu.jpg

[21993]

Were they also Eastern shifted?

[asuvis]

Were they also Eastern shifted?

To be fair this persons results are 3 generations away from these locations so perhaps the results are diluted from ancestors.

EU K15

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.90
2 West_Med 16.56
3 North_Sea 13.93
4 Baltic 13.80
5 West_Asian 11.57
6 Atlantic 10.81
7 Eastern_Euro 7.30
8 Red_Sea 2.25
9 South_Asian 2.01
10 Oceanian 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 3.17
2 Greek 6.67
3 Bulgarian 8.82
4 Central_Greek 8.91
5 Ashkenazi 9.67
6 East_Sicilian 9.73
7 Italian_Abruzzo 9.82
8 Romanian 10.1
9 Tuscan 10.6
11 South_Italian 11.58
10 West_Sicilian 12.45
12 Serbian 13.33
13 North_Italian 15.23
14 Italian_Jewish 15.94
15 Sephardic_Jewish 17.29
16 Algerian_Jewish 17.45
17 Moldavian 18.24
18 Hungarian 19.47
19 Croatian 19.65
20 Tunisian_Jewish 20.77

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.0% Greek_Thessaly + 4.0% Lithuanian @ 1.82
2 96.3% Greek_Thessaly + 3.7% Erzya @ 1.87
3 95.7% Greek_Thessaly + 4.3% Southwest_Russian @ 1.88
4 95.8% Greek_Thessaly + 4.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.88
5 96.3% Greek_Thessaly + 3.7% Belorussian @ 1.89

[21993]

Doing some research and it could be either of these spots but doing some more in depth looking so might not be totally right. The person I am doing research on is very south shifted but not "west asian" per say.


There are some Turkish samples which do not clıster with Balkans, Anatolians or Caucasians in genetic sense. Once I have seen a sample labelled as Turk from Adana but clustering with Iraqi Arabs and nowhere near the other Turkish samples. As for your question, there might be some Romani admixture in those regions but not hundred percent sure though.

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There are some Turkish samples which do not clıster with Balkans, Anatolians or Caucasians in genetic sense. Once I have seen a sample labelled as Turk from Adana but clustering with Iraqi Arabs and nowhere near the other Turkish samples. As for your question, there might be some Romani admixture in those regions but not hundred percent sure though.

Meant south as in Balkan south europe shifted. Thank you for the research on the question, was most helpful regardless :)

[FinalFlash]

There are some Turkish samples which do not clıster with Balkans, Anatolians or Caucasians in genetic sense. Once I have seen a sample labelled as Turk from Adana but clustering with Iraqi Arabs and nowhere near the other Turkish samples. As for your question, there might be some Romani admixture in those regions but not hundred percent sure though.

Turkish Adana and Kayseri samples seem to shift a bit towards the Levant.

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Turkish Adana and Kayseri samples seem to shift a bit towards the Levant.

I should have been more specific when I meant south, meant like Northern Greece south but this is all interesting information in itself +1 . That is very interesting, my personal experience says this could be the case as my Syrian and Turks friends from the border between the two all say they have ancestry from both sides.

[21993]

Turkish Adana and Kayseri samples seem to shift a bit towards the Levant.

I actually have no idea why they have Levantine shift (especially Kayseri)

[FinalFlash]

I actually have no idea why they have Levantine shift (especially Kayseri)

It's likely due to highly shared EEF ancestry between Anatolian Turks and Levantines. Otherwise, Turks don't have much pure Levantine_Natufian ancestry whereas Levantines have plenty of it.

[Kaspias]

Doing some research and it could be either of these spots but doing some more in depth looking so might not be totally right. The person I am doing research on is very south shifted but not "west asian" per say, more like Greece, Macedonia, etc.


https://i.imgur.com/CSpIxMu.jpg

There were Bulgarians in that region of Thrace

[Kaspias]

To be fair this persons results are 3 generations away from these locations so perhaps the results are diluted from ancestors.

EU K15

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.90
2 West_Med 16.56
3 North_Sea 13.93
4 Baltic 13.80
5 West_Asian 11.57
6 Atlantic 10.81
7 Eastern_Euro 7.30
8 Red_Sea 2.25
9 South_Asian 2.01
10 Oceanian 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 3.17
2 Greek 6.67
3 Bulgarian 8.82
4 Central_Greek 8.91
5 Ashkenazi 9.67
6 East_Sicilian 9.73
7 Italian_Abruzzo 9.82
8 Romanian 10.1
9 Tuscan 10.6
11 South_Italian 11.58
10 West_Sicilian 12.45
12 Serbian 13.33
13 North_Italian 15.23
14 Italian_Jewish 15.94
15 Sephardic_Jewish 17.29
16 Algerian_Jewish 17.45
17 Moldavian 18.24
18 Hungarian 19.47
19 Croatian 19.65
20 Tunisian_Jewish 20.77

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.0% Greek_Thessaly + 4.0% Lithuanian @ 1.82
2 96.3% Greek_Thessaly + 3.7% Erzya @ 1.87
3 95.7% Greek_Thessaly + 4.3% Southwest_Russian @ 1.88
4 95.8% Greek_Thessaly + 4.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.88
5 96.3% Greek_Thessaly + 3.7% Belorussian @ 1.89

What is your research exactly about? Can you also post Eurogenes K13 and MDLP K23b?

[asuvis]

What is your research exactly about? Can you also post Eurogenes K13 and MDLP K23b?

I will when I get home. Grandmother thought to be Rusyn turns out genetically not at all, has Arvanite surname.

[asuvis]

What is your research exactly about? Can you also post Eurogenes K13 and MDLP K23b?

Here is K13 since I have it saved, will get others later.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.45
2 West_Med 20.03
4 North_Atlantic 19.26
3 Baltic 18.65
5 West_Asian 11.59
6 Red_Sea 3.40
7 South_Asian 1.59
8 Amerindian 0.55
9 Oceanian 0.46

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.94
2 Bulgarian 8.23
3 Central_Greek 9.44
4 Italian_Abruzzo 10.39
5 East_Sicilian 10.48
6 Romanian 10.59
7 West_Sicilian 11.28
8 Ashkenazi 11.66
9 Tuscan 12.45
10 South_Italian 13.7
11 Serbian 14.65
12 North_Italian 15.88
13 Algerian_Jewish 18.32
14 Italian_Jewish 18.46
15 Sephardic_Jewish 18.94
16 Moldavian 20.92
17 Libyan_Jewish 21.48
18 Tunisian_Jewish 22.1
19 Hungarian 22.86
20 Croatian 22.95

[Kaspias]

Here is K13 since I have it saved, will get others later.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.45
2 West_Med 20.03
4 North_Atlantic 19.26
3 Baltic 18.65
5 West_Asian 11.59
6 Red_Sea 3.40
7 South_Asian 1.59
8 Amerindian 0.55
9 Oceanian 0.46

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.94
2 Bulgarian 8.23
3 Central_Greek 9.44
4 Italian_Abruzzo 10.39
5 East_Sicilian 10.48
6 Romanian 10.59
7 West_Sicilian 11.28
8 Ashkenazi 11.66
9 Tuscan 12.45
10 South_Italian 13.7
11 Serbian 14.65
12 North_Italian 15.88
13 Algerian_Jewish 18.32
14 Italian_Jewish 18.46
15 Sephardic_Jewish 18.94
16 Moldavian 20.92
17 Libyan_Jewish 21.48
18 Tunisian_Jewish 22.1
19 Hungarian 22.86
20 Croatian 22.95

Well i can say that this result may be a Thracian Bulgarian, Thracian Greek and Albanian at the same time. If you give me the kit number i can check his/her matches.

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Well i can say that this result may be a Thracian Bulgarian, Thracian Greek and Albanian at the same time. If you give me the kit number i can check his/her matches.

She doesn’t want me to give out her kit number sadly, was hard getting her to allow to show results though I understand why.