East German DNA results

[vbnetkhio]

post East German gedmatch results. with haplogroups if possible.

https://alphahistory.com/coldwar/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/eastgermanymap.png

[vbnetkhio]

my match from Schwerin

https://www.freecountrymaps.com/map/free/germany/location/21993086-fs8.png



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 47.23
2 Baltic 32.77
3 West_Med 9.6
4 West_Asian 3.28
5 East_Med 2.85
6 South_Asian 2.1
7 Red_Sea 1.1
8 East_Asian 0.55
9 Northeast_African 0.32
10 Oceanian 0.11
11 Siberian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Swedish 3.46
2 North_Swedish 5.84
3 Norwegian 5.85
4 North_German 6.04
5 Danish 6.48
6 North_Dutch 6.98
7 Orcadian 8.98
8 Irish 9.79
9 Southeast_English 10.11
10 West_Scottish 10.45
11 East_German 10.5
12 Southwest_English 11.6
13 Austrian 11.7
14 South_Dutch 12.07
15 West_German 12.39
16 Southwest_Finnish 13.57
17 Hungarian 15.17
18 South_Polish 17.14
19 French 18.06
20 Polish 18.6

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.4% Danish + 22.6% Estonian @ 2.4
2 80.5% Danish + 19.5% Lithuanian @ 2.5
3 69.1% Danish + 30.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.56
4 80.4% Norwegian + 19.6% Belorussian @ 2.6
5 53.2% North_Swedish + 46.8% Danish @ 2.63
6 80.9% Norwegian + 19.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.68
7 76.2% North_Dutch + 23.8% Estonian @ 2.7
8 91.1% Swedish + 8.9% Belorussian @ 2.74
9 91.4% Swedish + 8.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.77
10 82.7% Norwegian + 17.3% Lithuanian @ 2.79
11 67.5% North_Dutch + 32.5% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.8
12 79.4% North_Dutch + 20.6% Lithuanian @ 2.81
13 55.5% North_Swedish + 44.5% North_Dutch @ 2.82
14 90.2% Swedish + 9.8% Polish @ 2.82
15 76.7% Danish + 23.3% Finnish @ 2.83
16 71% West_Scottish + 29% Lithuanian @ 2.83
17 78.6% Danish + 21.4% Belorussian @ 2.84
18 91.6% Swedish + 8.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.84
19 65.5% North_Swedish + 34.5% Southeast_English @ 2.85
20 89.6% Swedish + 10.4% South_Polish @ 2.85

[Leto]

"East Germany" is a former political designation. Many right-wing-ish Germans still refer to that region as Mitteldeutschland, because western parts of modern Poland and Czechia used to be German lands. Schwerin is a North German city, nothing to do with Dresden or Thüringen for example.

[Cumansky]

I don't have any

[vbnetkhio]

I don't have any

lol

[vbnetkhio]

"East Germany" is a former political designation. Many right-wing-ish Germans still refer to that region as Mitteldeutschland, because western parts of modern Poland and Czechia used to be German lands. Schwerin is a North German city, nothing to do with Dresden or Thüringen for example.

DDR overlaps with the part of Germany which was settled by Slavic tribes, and that's the area i'm interested in.

the only other way i could've said it is "post Germans east of the Sorbian march" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorbian_March :cool:

[Jana]

My German match (their surname is most common in Thuringia and Saxony-Anhalt)

Admix Results (sorted):

1 North_Atlantic 42.29
2 Baltic 31.61
3 West_Med 13.55
4 West_Asian 6.52
5 East_Med 1.63
6 Red_Sea 1.28
7 East_Asian 1.12
8 South_Asian 1.08
9 Sub-Saharan 0.6
10 Oceanian 0.19
11 Northeast_African 0.12
12 Amerindian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

1 East_German 6.19
2 North_German 6.91
3 Swedish 6.99
4 Austrian 7.52
5 North_Swedish 8.58
6 Danish 8.89
7 North_Dutch 8.95
8 Norwegian 8.99
9 South_Dutch 10.16
10 West_German 10.25
11 Orcadian 10.42
12 Southeast_English 11.01
13 Irish 11.11
14 Hungarian 11.52
15 West_Scottish 12.13
16 Southwest_English 12.16
17 Southwest_Finnish 14.2
18 South_Polish 14.47
19 Croatian 15.35
20 French 15.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 57.7% Southwest_English + 42.3% Polish @ 2.32
2 62.4% Southwest_English + 37.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.37
3 59.8% Irish + 40.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.38
4 63.6% Southwest_English + 36.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.41
5 60.8% Irish + 39.2% Ukrainian @ 2.41
6 57.6% West_Scottish + 42.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.58
7 58.6% West_Scottish + 41.4% Ukrainian @ 2.66
8 58.6% Southwest_English + 41.4% Ukrainian @ 2.67
9 57.6% Southwest_English + 42.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.71
10 56.9% Irish + 43.1% South_Polish @ 2.72
11 54.5% Southwest_English + 45.5% South_Polish @ 2.77
12 61.6% Orcadian + 38.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.83
13 63.7% Southwest_English + 36.3% Southwest_Russian @ 2.84
14 63.4% Southwest_English + 36.6% Estonian_Polish @ 2.85
15 60.2% Irish + 39.8% Polish @ 2.86
16 53.7% East_German + 46.3% Swedish @ 2.91
17 54.6% West_Scottish + 45.4% South_Polish @ 2.96
18 62.6% Orcadian + 37.4% Ukrainian @ 3.01
19 57.9% West_Scottish + 42.1% Polish @ 3.07
20 61.9% Orcadian + 38.1% Polish @ 3.09

[vbnetkhio]

German from Gdansk area. Their ethnogenesis was very similar to that of the East Germans, so i'll post him here too.

https://www.worldatlas.com/img/locator/city/000/16600-gdansk-locator-map.jpg


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 37.74
2 Baltic 36.42
3 West_Med 11.18
4 East_Med 5.33
5 West_Asian 5.24
6 Siberian 2.15
7 South_Asian 1.33
8 Sub-Saharan 0.45
9 Oceanian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_German 5.5
2 Austrian 7.69
3 North_Swedish 8.1
4 Hungarian 8.12
5 South_Polish 8.13
6 Southwest_Finnish 9.18
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.61
8 Polish 10.65
9 Croatian 10.82
10 Ukrainian 10.89
11 Swedish 11.31
12 North_German 11.86
13 Moldavian 13.79
14 Finnish 13.88
15 Russian_Smolensk 13.95
16 Danish 14.01
17 Norwegian 14.08
18 Belorussian 14.13
19 West_German 14.15
20 Southwest_Russian 14.4

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.6% Austrian + 45.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.51
2 63.1% East_German + 36.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.54
3 66.9% South_Polish + 33.1% Orcadian @ 1.65
4 53.4% Southwest_Russian + 46.6% Southeast_English @ 1.67
5 72.5% East_German + 27.5% Finnish @ 1.73
6 51.1% West_German + 48.9% Estonian @ 1.73
7 56.1% Southwest_Russian + 43.9% Southwest_English @ 1.75
8 52.9% Southwest_Russian + 47.1% Orcadian @ 1.77
9 63.7% South_Polish + 36.3% Danish @ 1.84
10 56.4% Ukrainian + 43.6% Danish @ 1.86
11 69.5% South_Polish + 30.5% West_Scottish @ 1.88
12 57.5% North_Swedish + 42.5% Croatian @ 1.98
13 64.5% South_Polish + 35.5% North_Dutch @ 1.98
14 55.2% South_Dutch + 44.8% Lithuanian @ 2.05
15 65% Austrian + 35% Finnish @ 2.07
16 57.2% Ukrainian + 42.8% North_Dutch @ 2.08
17 67.5% South_Polish + 32.5% Southeast_English @ 2.08
18 63.9% South_Polish + 36.1% Norwegian @ 2.1
19 50% South_Dutch + 50% Estonian @ 2.13
20 68.6% South_Polish + 31.4% Irish @ 2.14

[vbnetkhio]

this one deserved his own thread:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?308291-White-Serb-Sorb-gedmatch-result!&p=6362366#post6362366

[vbnetkhio]

half from Schleswig Holstein, half from Mecklendurg-Vorpommern. way more Slavic than i expected.

https://st4.depositphotos.com/9212956/26553/v/1600/depositphotos_265530492-stock-illustration-schleswig-holstein-state-map-germany.jpg



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 39.91
2 North_Atlantic 38.07
3 West_Med 8.07
4 East_Med 5.63
5 West_Asian 4.45
6 Red_Sea 1.79
7 Amerindian 0.92
8 Sub-Saharan 0.89
9 Oceanian 0.28

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Finnish 7.61
2 South_Polish 7.81
3 North_Swedish 8.43
4 Polish 8.83
5 East_German 9.37
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.55
7 Ukrainian 10.6
8 Hungarian 10.94
9 Austrian 11.28
10 Belorussian 11.51
11 Russian_Smolensk 11.79
12 Finnish 11.83
13 Estonian 12.23
14 Estonian_Polish 12.24
15 Croatian 12.48
16 Swedish 12.7
17 Southwest_Russian 12.84
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.21
19 North_German 14.13
20 East_Finnish 15.25

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.2% Belorussian + 40.8% North_Dutch @ 2.27
2 55.3% Belorussian + 44.7% North_German @ 2.38
3 58.7% Belorussian + 41.3% Danish @ 2.42
4 58% Belorussian + 42% Norwegian @ 2.64
5 64.3% Belorussian + 35.7% West_Scottish @ 2.65
6 63.4% Belorussian + 36.6% Irish @ 2.7
7 62.9% Belorussian + 37.1% Southeast_English @ 2.73
8 62.3% Belorussian + 37.7% Orcadian @ 2.77
9 57.7% Estonian_Polish + 42.3% North_Dutch @ 2.85
10 52.6% Belorussian + 47.4% Swedish @ 2.86
11 57.2% Estonian_Polish + 42.8% Danish @ 2.95
12 53.8% Estonian_Polish + 46.2% North_German @ 3
13 56.5% Estonian_Polish + 43.5% Norwegian @ 3
14 65.2% Belorussian + 34.8% Southwest_English @ 3.03
15 51% Estonian_Polish + 49% Swedish @ 3.14
16 58.8% Russian_Smolensk + 41.2% North_Dutch @ 3.17
17 58.3% Russian_Smolensk + 41.7% Danish @ 3.21
18 52.1% North_German + 47.9% Lithuanian @ 3.22
19 57.5% Russian_Smolensk + 42.5% Norwegian @ 3.23
20 50.3% Swedish + 49.7% Southwest_Russian @ 3.24

[WeirdLookingFellow]

half from Schleswig Holstein, half from Mecklendurg-Vorpommern. way more Slavic than i expected.

https://st4.depositphotos.com/9212956/26553/v/1600/depositphotos_265530492-stock-illustration-schleswig-holstein-state-map-germany.jpg



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 39.91
2 North_Atlantic 38.07
3 West_Med 8.07
4 East_Med 5.63
5 West_Asian 4.45
6 Red_Sea 1.79
7 Amerindian 0.92
8 Sub-Saharan 0.89
9 Oceanian 0.28

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Finnish 7.61
2 South_Polish 7.81
3 North_Swedish 8.43
4 Polish 8.83
5 East_German 9.37
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.55
7 Ukrainian 10.6
8 Hungarian 10.94
9 Austrian 11.28
10 Belorussian 11.51
11 Russian_Smolensk 11.79
12 Finnish 11.83
13 Estonian 12.23
14 Estonian_Polish 12.24
15 Croatian 12.48
16 Swedish 12.7
17 Southwest_Russian 12.84
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.21
19 North_German 14.13
20 East_Finnish 15.25

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.2% Belorussian + 40.8% North_Dutch @ 2.27
2 55.3% Belorussian + 44.7% North_German @ 2.38
3 58.7% Belorussian + 41.3% Danish @ 2.42
4 58% Belorussian + 42% Norwegian @ 2.64
5 64.3% Belorussian + 35.7% West_Scottish @ 2.65
6 63.4% Belorussian + 36.6% Irish @ 2.7
7 62.9% Belorussian + 37.1% Southeast_English @ 2.73
8 62.3% Belorussian + 37.7% Orcadian @ 2.77
9 57.7% Estonian_Polish + 42.3% North_Dutch @ 2.85
10 52.6% Belorussian + 47.4% Swedish @ 2.86
11 57.2% Estonian_Polish + 42.8% Danish @ 2.95
12 53.8% Estonian_Polish + 46.2% North_German @ 3
13 56.5% Estonian_Polish + 43.5% Norwegian @ 3
14 65.2% Belorussian + 34.8% Southwest_English @ 3.03
15 51% Estonian_Polish + 49% Swedish @ 3.14
16 58.8% Russian_Smolensk + 41.2% North_Dutch @ 3.17
17 58.3% Russian_Smolensk + 41.7% Danish @ 3.21
18 52.1% North_German + 47.9% Lithuanian @ 3.22
19 57.5% Russian_Smolensk + 42.5% Norwegian @ 3.23
20 50.3% Swedish + 49.7% Southwest_Russian @ 3.24



So he's closer to a South Polish, THEN to North Swedish, THEN to Polish? How does that work

[asuvis]

Why would my grandfather have East German as his top match, but then his oracles are wayyy different from these samples?

[vbnetkhio]

Why would my grandfather have East German as his top match, but then his oracles are wayyy different from these samples?

post his results and oracles

[Benyzero]

Why would my grandfather have East German as his top match, but then his oracles are wayyy different from these samples?

Distance?

[asuvis]

K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 37.61
2 North_Atlantic 37.47
3 West_Med 9.82
4 West_Asian 5.79
5 East_Med 5.16
6 Siberian 1.6
7 Northeast_African 1.15
8 Oceanian 1.12
9 South_Asian 0.25
10 Amerindian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_German 7.08
2 South_Polish 7.5
3 North_Swedish 8.09
4 Southwest_Finnish 8.5
5 Hungarian 8.92
6 Austrian 9.02
7 Polish 9.69
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.12
9 Ukrainian 10.36
10 Croatian 11.06
11 Swedish 11.82
12 North_German 12.7
13 Finnish 12.8
14 Russian_Smolensk 12.9
15 Belorussian 13.01
16 Southwest_Russian 13.41
17 Estonian_Polish 13.45
18 Estonian 13.67
19 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.8
20 Moldavian 14.15

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.3% Southwest_Russian + 46.7% North_Dutch @ 1.91
2 56.3% Southwest_Russian + 43.7% Orcadian @ 2.04
3 61.7% South_Polish + 38.3% Swedish @ 2.04
4 52.7% Southwest_Russian + 47.3% Danish @ 2.06
5 58.9% Southwest_Russian + 41.1% West_Scottish @ 2.14
6 67.1% South_Polish + 32.9% Norwegian @ 2.2
7 56.9% Southwest_Russian + 43.1% Southeast_English @ 2.27
8 59.4% Southwest_Russian + 40.6% Southwest_English @ 2.3
9 57.7% Southwest_Russian + 42.3% Irish @ 2.31
10 53.1% Estonian + 46.9% West_German @ 2.38
11 51.4% North_German + 48.6% Southwest_Russian @ 2.38
12 68% South_Polish + 32% North_Dutch @ 2.39
13 67.4% South_Polish + 32.6% Danish @ 2.41
14 52.5% Southwest_Russian + 47.5% Norwegian @ 2.43
15 58.3% North_Swedish + 41.7% Croatian @ 2.46
16 51.5% North_German + 48.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.46
17 53.5% Ukrainian + 46.5% Swedish @ 2.46
18 55.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 44.3% Orcadian @ 2.55
19 53.3% Swedish + 46.7% Southwest_Russian @ 2.57
20 50.6% North_German + 49.4% Belorussian @ 2.57

[asuvis]

EU K15, He's Rusyn, German, Kashubian

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 26.1
2 Baltic 22.8
3 Atlantic 20.35
4 Eastern_Euro 17.42
5 West_Med 5.67
6 West_Asian 3.54
7 East_Med 2.17
8 Oceanian 0.93
9 Northeast_African 0.6
10 Siberian 0.35
11 Sub-Saharan 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Finnish 6.26
2 South_Polish 6.39
3 Polish 6.67
4 East_German 7.38
5 Ukrainian 7.83
6 Finnish 7.88
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.15
8 Hungarian 8.26
9 Estonian 9.43
10 Austrian 9.52
11 Croatian 9.56
12 Russian_Smolensk 10.05
13 East_Finnish 10.92
14 Belorussian 11.04
15 Southwest_Russian 11.09
16 Estonian_Polish 11.35
17 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.54
18 North_Swedish 11.63
19 Moldavian 12.13
20 La_Brana-1 12.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.7% Southwest_Russian + 40.3% North_Dutch @ 1.75
2 61% Russian_Smolensk + 39% Norwegian @ 1.82
3 71.1% Polish + 28.9% Danish @ 1.84
4 64.9% Southwest_Russian + 35.1% Orcadian @ 1.85
5 75.9% Polish + 24.1% Orcadian @ 1.89
6 71.7% Polish + 28.3% North_Dutch @ 1.92
7 59% Southwest_Russian + 41% Danish @ 1.95
8 62.2% Southwest_Russian + 37.8% Southeast_English @ 1.95
9 64.6% Russian_Smolensk + 35.4% West_Norwegian @ 1.95
10 62.7% Southwest_Russian + 37.3% West_Scottish @ 1.97
11 67.9% Polish + 32.1% North_German @ 2.04
12 62.6% Southwest_Russian + 37.4% Southwest_English @ 2.09
13 62.2% Southwest_Russian + 37.8% Irish @ 2.09
14 70.9% Polish + 29.1% Norwegian @ 2.12
15 74% Polish + 26% Southeast_English @ 2.15
16 74.4% Polish + 25.6% West_Scottish @ 2.17
17 59% Russian_Smolensk + 41% Swedish @ 2.23
18 74.1% Polish + 25.9% West_Norwegian @ 2.25
19 72.4% South_Polish + 27.6% Danish @ 2.27
20 58.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 41.2% North_Dutch @ 2.28

[vbnetkhio]

So he's closer to a South Polish, THEN to North Swedish, THEN to Polish? How does that work

South Poles can be very Germanic, this South Polish reference probably is too.

[vbnetkhio]

K13



he is North German + Slavic, like that Schleswig+Mecklenburg man.
Southwest Russian and Belorusian are pretty similar, his oracles aren't way different from that one.

[asuvis]

So he's closer to a South Polish, THEN to North Swedish, THEN to Polish? How does that work

Same thing with my grandfather, in almost that same order. Think the oracle calculator is off in that regard.

[Matty74]

My surname originates in Mecklenburg and I don’t show any Slavic ancestry. Mostly all Norwegian and Swedish.